How To Fix Social Media (Before It Destroys Democracy)

[@AdamSomething]

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[@Hansalicious]

Fun fact: You can't remove all of your information from the web. But bag is a bag.

[@domusdiana9379]

Look, I do agree that we all need to make money. Shit is expensive. But don't you at least see the irony in peddling bullshit like joindeleteme after attacking other bullshit? Don't you see, that you are part of the same problem? What is next? Raid Shadow legend? An other VPN? I don't have the solution, but neither is joindeleteme.

[@KamilozeGaming-wi7un]

I am seeing a ton of hole but it sound like culture and you don't seeing outcry from your media plus you have outcry by childhood is depressing under your home was in Czechia or Hungarian, Slavs to Ural: I am centrist but I have solution is between German and Russia (I hate them because you know from Partition of Poland, Frist to Fourth)

[@kovi567]

Bombastic misinformation sells in general, regardless of ideology. I also love how you made an elephant out of a small group of right wingers getting misinformed and attacking police, like it's anything comparable to the BLM riots pogroms. Also, I love your orwellian solution for your blown out of proportion problem, that not just actively infringes on people's privacy (so much so that this system would be not GDPR compliant, just saying), but also doesn't solve the problem either, as malicious actors can still fake the input and automatize it via AI, unless you want every soc media account to be personally vetted by a commissar, which would take approximately 3 eternities, and would still allow strain to be put on the system if a malicious actor just decides to attempt making 3 million fake accounts via bots.

[@patsonical]

Sponsored by DeleteMe... btw give random websites your personal ID, real name, photos, and videos While I agree with the message, I absolutely disagree with the proposed implementation from a privacy and software security perspective. There are better ways to do it than intentionally doxxing yourself and removing any veil of privacy and personal security. E.g. make secure trusted government websites (where you already have an id verified) have a feature to generate a code that can be queried by a site when you sign up. That code would only give the site the "yes this person is real" information *and nothing else*. Reddit doesn't need to know my real name, Twitter doesn't need my passport, KZbin doesn't need a video of my real face. Also, having random websites store that kind of sensitive data is begging for it to get hacked, stolen, or sold to data brokers (kinda ironic for a video sponsored by DeleteMe, don't you think?)

[@Skullair313]

In my opinion, the correct problem was recognized. The solution, however, seems to be straight out of the office of chairman Xi. Unfortunately, there is no definite solution for the dilemma of order vs. privacy.

[@petersmythe6462]

I don't think Xi... I don't think Kim would even implement this. If Adam got what he wanted westerners would be trying to get into Chinese social media for its much more free and open design.

[@Curry-tan-]

We don't need to give up on high privacy. Let's give Adam half marks. The same diplomatic talks for international non-partisan AI safety monitors will have to extend to who assigns people pseudonyms and prevents duplicates without favoring or destabilizing X or Y government. Maybe short term fixes for a quickly dying internet will be more US and Chinese corporate imperialism and alphabet soup agency power grabs, but diplomatic pressure for AI safety and user verification is towards a compromise that sits nominally out of direct government control like many non profits and UN agencies. The issue is who outside of governments can and will be trusted for verifying and semi-anonymizing humans to avoid dead internet, and send name lists to whatever background check agencies mandated by international partners. And when they screw up or are enshittified, who next?

[@NightRidah777]

There is no definitive solution and will never be because social media makes money off human nature which is flawed itself.

[@DragonNexus]

It's a solution to the misinformation posters, but a lot of average every day people will get caught in the crossfire. So many as to make it unworkable.

[@Blaze6108]

I mean, if you are willing to admit there is no 'nice' solution you are effectively conceding his point: we need to sacrifice some of one for the other and find a balance - which is how all society works, really, we're just not used to the rules applying on the Internet. Right now I think everyone would agree the system is not balanced in the slightest.

[@ataberkuzun9582]

As a Turkish citizen, your suggestion of the ideal social media is too naive and wouldn't work as intended in nations like mine. You would just give unlimited control of the social media directly to Erdoğan. The problems you pointed out are absolutely true but your suggested solution is downright stupid imo.

[@JovialSvin]

As a citizen of Russia, I agree with you. 🥲 Such a measure will only make the dictator’s job easier

[@dr_buschy]

I wouldnt call it stupid per se, but I also thought features like ID control or checking tax returns cannot be done by a social media site without every country that uses it. And as was mentioned here it would make it even easier for autocrats to just legitiize their bots and trolls and they could even block journalists or everyone they dont like by denying their ID confirmation.

[@thechainwarden]

I wonder if it would be better to just kill of social media? Or even possible at this point.

[@jakobc.2558]

@ababerkuzun9582 , @JovialSvin this video is titled "(Before It Destroys Democracy)", where did you get the idea that this he was advocating for these measures to be implemented in your countries? Or do you think your democracies are not yet destroyed?

[@gjvnq]

Heck, even in Brazil those suggestions would be a disaster. The main victims of such proposed policies would be activists and the labour movement.

[@escwilde222]

Although I agree that social media needs more guidelines, removing privacy shouldn't happen. Sure it might stop fake news partly, but it will also stop social media from being a protest platform. Where some use social media to destroy democracy, others use it to build it up. Speaking freely online is sometimes for some the only way of free speech. This should be treasured, not destroyed.

[@Sajuek]

okay but what use is a “protest platform” if you have a friendly government in place, and can use social media to fortify the election to ensure conservatives never again win an election?

[@Parciwal_Gaming]

​@@Sajueka friendly government can turn unfriendly real quick. There will always be someone powerful that has something to hide.

[@liminalityy_]

​​​​@@Sajuek in truth, governments can't really be trusted and a friendly government won't really ever exist. If it does, then it will only be temporary Also the problem isn't "conservatives shouldn't win elections", both right and left wing people have a grasp on reality until they start going into extremist or alt territory and there is no correct side. Both left and right wing parties, as long as they aren't absolutely delusional, should be allowed to win elections and should be allowed to voice their opinions

[@Sajuek]

@@Parciwal_Gaming That is only true under capitalist and right wing governments. If a left wing government has to hide something it should stay hidden frankly.

[@Mrcake0103]

Yeah, as fucking awful as (Sh)itter is now under musk, people _used_ to organize protests and do actual fucking live-update photojournalism there. For years. There definitely _was_ value in the pseudo-anonymity of the internet, though it really has become a cancer today.

[@leonted4290]

As a Kenyan who has seen several social media users go missing never to be found, some end up in torture chambers or dead in rivers/dams for protesting against the thief in charge of our country, your idea of a good social media is fucking atrocious!! This just ain't it!!!

[@rickmorty5215]

Right? What makes this video even worse is the irony of the sponsor.

[@BwalyaHiggins-es3cw]

Just shows how complicated social media and you can't be good at everything he should stick to calling out bad infrastructure projects

[@Steelkicker]

This guy is fully woke so he lives in a world where people behave like they're in a utopia

[@Steelkicker]

​@@BwalyaHiggins-es3cwexactly

[@Hug02002]

​@@Steelkicker the leftist are ironically using the same methods of censorship of the fascist

[@punio4]

Removing anonymity on social media is a double-edged sword. Events like the Arab Spring, Hong Kong Protests, Sudanese Revolution and others, in opressive regimes, wouldn't have ever happened. Basically what you're proposing is what China is trying to push.

[@marcellocoimbra4540]

You mean that if we remove anonymity we will avoid coups financed by the USA? Because all your examples where artificial, directly financed and stimulated by the USA government, not against "opressive regimes", but against "not friendly regimes". In Hong Kong people were using the colonial british flag, as their symbol to protest against chinese government.

[@Vractis]

@@marcellocoimbra4540 You have to stop sniffing your own farts

[@ekki1993]

Removing anonimity on mainstream social media won't stop people with an interest in anonimity from going underground to actually be anonymous. What China is doing is dangerous, but forcing social media past certain size to enforce identification isn't even on the same ballpark.

[@szurketaltos2693]

Pretty sure Uncle Bill is reposting Q Anon on Facebook using his real name. Removing anonymity doesn't keep people from radicalising.

[@m.a.t.a.s]

I agree and that sounds terrible

[@EvanBear]

But how would I, as a hobby artist, in your proposed solution, find other artists to collaborate with if what I post is only visible to my friends? I have an uncle Bill and I'd love for him to get out of that stupid xenophobic sexist hole he got himself into but not if it means I can't meet new people anymore. The benefit to a site like Reddit for example is that you can get a whole community together for one specific hobby topic and meet new people that share your interests that way. How am I meant to meet people in your proposed solution? I can't exactly do an art exhibit when I'm an amateur artist who only does it for fun...

[@redwitch95]

Yeah, Adam's proposal would basically destroy hobby communities and fandoms. Let alone much more important things like support groups for people, say, in abusive relationships or struggling with addiction. It's a very narrow minded view of social media.

[@RIP212]

​@@redwitch95I think it more applies to viral platforms like Twitter and FB than to Reddit that is far less sensitive to algorithm killing democracies and normal conversations as it's very fragmented by design + moderated, which is the beauty of it. So if your platform is free for all and cross connected algorithm driven and very very big, please ID verification to get permission to post (without sharing the real name to public). For read only - create account for free. I think that will reduce bots and stuff like that significantly.

[@admbeck]

@@RIP212 There is nothing drastically distinguishing between twitter, facebook or reddit. You can't separate them with identifiers like "cross connected algorithm" and "very very big" since all of mainstream social media fall into that category. Even reddit has algorithms that decide what goes onto the main page. Besides, procuring a fake ID for verification won't be difficult unless you range IP ban everyone from non-western country. This entire argument is poorly thought out.

[@EvanBear]

@@redwitch95 Oh gee yes the support groups, I'm in support groups for chronic illnesses that I have that basically would get nuked by that proposal. I understand we gotta get Bill out of the misinformation pipeline but not if it means I can't meet Abby, who has the same rare genetic condition as I do, anymore. We gotta find another way.

[@EvanBear]

@@RIP212 There's just as much misinformation on reddit as there is on twitter and if you do not curate your feed it will be fed to you, virality works different because it mostly happens over re- and crossposts but it still exists. The communities I'm in are niche and I never go to /r/all so I'm saved from quite a bit of it but it's not that much less problematic than twitter or facebook. And if only twitter or facebook were regulated, where do you think all the weirdos would go? Into a social network that isn't.

[@samiraperi467]

Full legal name visible at all times would be a problem. 1) People who fear for their safety (say, trans people, activists, that kind of thing) will not use a platform that requires it. Or maybe they'll get a fake ID. There's no way to check everyone's data. 2) Non-persons (organizations, companies and so on) don't have IDs, and tend to have several people who speak for the org. I don't think it's a workable idea. It *sounds* simple, but isn't.

[@RIP212]

Revolut and many other online only banks check and onboard 50-100k of real people each day. There are services like Onfido, Persona and others that do ID verification.

[@handeggchan1057]

@samiraperi467 yep, biggest issue is marginalized groups. And even beyond that, with your full legal name available that opens you up to identify theft, doxxing and unnecessary surveillance by your employer, relatives, police, etc.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Yeah, having to identify yourself to the host of the site alone can be dodgy enough, but having your full name on display all the time? Huge risk. Also a big buzzkill. There are many non-political things you can post you might not want your legal name attached to. Or like, what does this apply to? Real names for Amazon reviews? Art sites? P*rn sites?

[@anonyme4881]

Full legal name also has the big problem of shutting down activist in more censured country like Iran or China Covid info in wuhan was possible because of said anonymat

[@euanstokes2828]

Yep, it also doesn't reflect real life. I can go into public and unless someone already knows me, I have privacy

[@ramblingturian]

My guy this shit would absolutely destroy every hobby space online and put so many of my friends at risk. Please just stick to urbanism, this shit is embarrassing.

[@ramblingturian]

Also cool sponsorship there. Siding with anonymity for some money then immediately going hard on legally-enforced doxxing.

[@TheSundayShooter]

@@ramblingturian "Let's socialise social media like the Chinese Communist Party, what could possibly go wrong?"

[@OPPU73NT]

Womp Womp

[@dieSpinnt]

I think this is a great solution by Adam. And why not send my abusive ex-partner who stabbed me 8 times an info-card with all my data, accounts, current living location? Combined with an Amazon gift card for ... a fancy knife? Well, I am cynical here. Maybe Adam presented an idea, a blueprint, a thought and not a concept that is ready for implementation. C'mon guys. Or do you think the current state of this online-cesspool is the best since sliced bread? I guess not, hehehe. Have a good one and accept divorces like a normal person.

[@D3K43]

I dunno about you, Adam, but I grew up in the era of "Never fucking EVER tell anyone your real name online" when I first learned how to use the home computer.

[@MartiaNemoris]

True enough. But wouldn't you say that at this point we're at the stage where, if your concern is online safety, the best defence is not to interact online at all? I'm not necessarily arguing for full public verified identification with passport or whatever just to use Face-godsdamned-book. But I would say that by now, the threats are of such range, complexity and sophistication that most ordinary users - probably myself included, for all I once thought I was 'good with computers' - won't have the means to identify and counter each one. Are we not at - or might there at least not be a time - when the safest place to be is offline, at least as much as you can be?

[@IncTheCredible]

​@@MartiaNemoriswell said, well said 👏👏

[@D3K43]

@@MartiaNemoris Your words are not untrue, and I must admit that since this KZbin account is connected to my main Gmail, it does have my real name attached to it, making me somewhat of a hypocrite. However, for the average vengeful or petty user, they wouldn't be able to track down who or where I am when I'm on my alt accounts for various purposes, or a complete burner, and that's okay with me. I don't hold sensitive information online, nor do I have such lofty prospects to protect. When I do, I will certainly be more careful of what I say, even on my burners on the off-chance that some hyper-dedicated compuier-whiz marks me with a personal vendetta. That day is not today, and I have little to fear.

[@MartiaNemoris]

@@D3K43 That seems a reasonable assessment. You evidently don't feel at particular risk from your current range of activity and presence online, and I would say I'm in a fairly comparable situation. I also use a number of different identities - this one is a real name, though it's not my government-registered name. Personally, if I were required to register this name with the government and make it 'real' in that respect, I'd be happy enough to do so. I don't tend to do things online that I wouldn't be happy to have linked to my offline 'real' self. I can see an argument with regard to protecting the identities of people who are escaping abusive relationships, for example, or would be otherwise at risk if their government-registered or legal identities became known. That is something I think needs careful thought if we go down the line of requiring more identification for social media use, and if I'm entirely honest, I don't know how that could be safely managed to fully protect such people.

[@Erdanya]

I'd like to echo that sentiment IMO the idea that if we wanted to be safe we shouldn't interact at all is reminiscent of Idiocracy. You let roam all the idiots who care not, and will butt heads violently all day because they can't hold a decent conversation without threats, while the people who are looking to talk without violence stay away because they cannot have a modicum of safety. If I have to choose between that and pseudonyms, I'll choose the latter.

[@McFly.]

The proposed verification process has some serious privacy issues. By requiring users to share sensitive personal information, it opens the door to potential misuse or leaks. Plus, getting rid of anonymity could make people hesitant to express their opinions, especially in places where the government cracks down on dissent. It could also unfairly affect marginalized groups who might not have the necessary ID, putting user privacy and freedom of speech at risk.

[@Sam-ip1pp]

this needs more likes, his proposed verification process would hurt far more than it would help

[@Smallpriest]

So true, if it actually had such measures, i would just not use Twitter

[@BuddyReiner]

Exactly, it would China like state controlled media. And citizen journalism is still more credible than news sources like Al Jazeera.

[@21forevergone]

​@Smallpriest good that's the point

[@anonymousarmadillo6589]

Adam is truly blind to the fact that social media allows dissent in today's day and age. It's not possible to protest against a government's policies or actions of you're so easy to identify and silence using kangroo courts in places with vindictive governments. Adam seems to live in an ideal world where no one would try to silence any ideas, but that seems like a grass is greener scenario rather than anything close to reality.

[@TheLuckySpades]

I like being able to talk about unionizing, political organizing, venting about work, and indeed talking about kinks/nsfw hobbies openly with likeminded people without it being tied to my full legal name and searchable by employers and family My employers don't need to know how the potential union is doing and my grandma doesn't need to know what flavor of BDSM I like and the government and other political parties don't need to know that I find our local socialist party has a platform I like

[@TheGreenScout]

Fair but also irrelevant to the point as all of those positions are directly under attack by unregulated social media. In the current format you are losing ground on all of those interests. If you want to secure your rights, including the right to socially unacceptable but ethical interests like kink, the one and only forum for success or failure is where it's always been - parliament

[@AileTheAlien]

🤔I think socially unacceptable but legal activities (as @TheGreenScout put it) would be better served by private, invite-only spaces like Discord. Bigots, racists, and other violent people would still be able to use these tools for collaborating, and as an echo chamber to amplify their ideas, but they already have tools for that - direct snail-mail, e-mail, and in-person groups. Cracking down on public broadcasting of extremism would (hopefully) just cut down on them recruiting new members, or feeling validated to continue their beliefs and then seek out like-minded people. Many people are pretty decent, but the Uncle Bob's of the world used to just get locked up as lone gunmen or bombers, and the in-person extremist groups are cults, which have existed for a long time. Socially acceptable but hated-by-rich-people ideas like unionizing are already out in the open. If the government tries to lock those up, I'd hope that normal people would revolt.

[@kyngmythos8791]

​@@TheGreenScouti would not agree. I am sure that there ist a way and a place for anonymous social media. And a reason definitely. For example reddit if you don't actively search for right wing propaganda you won't come across any and the moderation on the site is incredibly good and i have not encountered many bots there

[@SadisticSenpai61]

Now add on that you belong to a class of person that is frequently harassed/targeted in online spaces when you reveal that you belong to said class (including minorities, women, trans ppl, etc). That personal data being public could mean that a creep would have everything they need to track you down and possibly hurt you.

[@AhimtarHoN]

This situation wouldn't change at all though, he is not suggesting the removal of private messages or groups.

[@fabioaraujo5427]

Adam, I love you man, but aside from missing the point, this video goes deep into the "Nothing to hide" fallacy. One of the key points of the internet was privacy. Companies may be violating that for a long time, but a government doing it doesn't make it necessarily better.

[@turnerbytrade6700]

love your content but respectfully that social media concept is the worst idea i've ever heard in my life

[@isaaclaf1000]

Ok so what do you propose that doesn't involve active censorship (by governments, some of which far right) but stops the complete unraveling of society. Social media is just a luxury with some terrible side effects.

[@Bustermachine]

To be honest, I take this as Adam having the position that all of the future outcomes of social media as it exists now are catastrophically bad. And . . . I kinda get it. I don't know if I agree with his solution, but I get the desperation that the current status quo is also untenable. Like people are bemoaning the loss of anonymity. But you're already not anonymous on the internet. Internet anonymity is a myth. You are at best beneath notice. Any of the governments you're worried about can get internet anonymity pretty trivially if they're motivated to do so.

[@unrealzocker]

@@Bustermachine The anonymity feature is between the users, not between usergovernment or site owner.

[@Mipetz38]

​@@Bustermachineeveryone can be anonymous with proper care, TOR exists and sites that don't log user's data (because of hdd storage limits) too the only bottleneck you can't escape is your ISP, but you can use end-to-end encryption for that

[@apinakapina]

I've heard worst ideas, but this idea is still absolute fucking garbage.

[@PettitFrontiers]

Fitting for a video sponsored by a company that profits from removing leaked personal information to propose a solution involving giving sensitive info to leakable companies.

[@djan0889]

post-irony on steroids.

[@kendakgifbancuher2047]

😂😂

[@Blaze6108]

I mean strictly speaking, your name being openly visible is by definition data that cannot be leaked, it’s a public profile already.

[@slimslimee4411]

@@Blaze6108 yeah, so an easier target for doxxing and swatting. Very counterintuitive

[@Blaze6108]

@@slimslimee4411 Can you really do doxxing if your name is already known? Like I have my public name available for work and on for a few published things. But doxxing conventionally is when your anonymous account becomes linked to personal info, it’s an issue related to _being anonymous_ in the first place. If you’re an average person your name and surname are likely already on every Meta platform. Either way this would be solved with pseudonymous accounts that are still linked to your ID.

[@alexnander4772]

Adam, tbh you did not cook with this one, absolute dystopian proposition, would you really trust the government, which is led by fallible human beings to keep your Internet activity completely secret forever? What if I wanted to discuss something embarrassing on the Internet that I don’t want my employer or family to know about? Could I trust some random guy working for the government to never tell anyone about this, no matter what kinds of rewards offered to him?

[@timewaves]

It’s either that or corporations which are even less trustworthy . At least government is accountable to us in some way

[@marcellocoimbra4540]

You already trust Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckemberg and Pavel Durov to take care of your personal informations.

[@iamdanieloliveira]

As opposed to the current system, where social media is being controlled by altruistic megacorporations that are 100% not already selling all your information to whoever pays them. Don't get me wrong, I also don't think social media being controlled by the government is a good idea, but to think that your data is safer with Facebook/Twitter/Internet providers than it would be with the government is ridiculous (of course, that depends on where you live).

[@ygthemoth9425]

⁠@@marcellocoimbra4540They have no incentive to utilise this for personal gain: if you have countries that experience democratic backsliding, having the local strongman be able to pull up already deleted dirt on their opponent would be devastating.

[@scorfilestudio]

@@timewaves Governement have interest, and in election period leaving them with full control over social media is a sure way to let them influence the result. Corporations are less trustworthy but don't have any interest in either sides, their only interest is money which entirely depend on what people watch. So the worse from a company owned social media is bias of comfirmation and slight radicalization and the worse from a governement owned is censorship and manipulation of the algorithm to favorize a certain party, which is really not good to have.

[@EvenNinegaming]

Having an ad for a data remover service, then arguing for mandatory displaying your full first and last name plus place of residence on all social media is kinda crazy.

[@jejska2737]

Not gonna lie, getting sponsored by a company that scrubs your personal data from the internet in a video that proposes that putting your personal data on the internet should be mandatory is wild.

[@agentiq007]

That sure is a bold business strategy.

[@Blaze6108]

Counterpoint: nobody is forcing you to use social media in ways other than read-only. If you want to post your hot takes, you should be willing to back them with something real. That said, personal names could easily be replaced with pseudonyms in this scheme while still maintaining the "you are a real person" property. I do agree that real names seem a bit much, but I do believe the problems of this system would be an improvement over the problems we have now. Even if I think we can do better than that, I'll take losing my anonymity over being sh0t in a r4ce r1ot or having my country imploded in an illiberal insurrection.

[@shanecle]

Yes. Sharing your opinion online without threat of being persecuted for wrong-think is a danger to “our democracy”.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

@@shanecle Persecuted? Like, say, by having a raging mob show up at the place you live trying to burn it down?

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

(That said there definitely are dangers for, say, people who live in countries like Iran so this ain't it)

[@The_Georgi0]

Right problem, wrong solution

[@anubis2814]

He just invented a draconian version of mastodon, the trains of social media. Hit up my channels playlist "fevdiverse shorts" if you want to know more about this free open source social media option. Really sad I'm not seeing anyone else mentioning it in the comments section.

[@Aluminio_siete_tres_siete]

This

[@robotravioli1135]

Exactly.

[@AnangRabo]

Yeah....?????

[@tomashsilkin6439]

I like you Adam, but these proposals are abysmal. There has to be a way to make social media normal without turning it into a digital dystopia

[@Spacey_key]

Bruh it already is

[@ineednochannelyoutube2651]

@@Spacey_key Without substituting one digital dystopia for another one.

[@mollystewart-gallus537]

Normal is already shit. Social media just amplifies the existing bullshit. Conspiracy theories and Nazis have existed for years. The KKK was a normal boring public institution in Indiana. People have far too rosy-eyed views of yesteryear.

[@jakobc.2558]

Literally how though? How do you adress the core issue of bots not being identifiable without making them identifiable.

[@Demopans5990]

​@jakobc.2558 Because remember, we tried using crypto for that verification process, and for years earlier, Captchas. Both did not work at all. The best solution honestly is to fragment the networks back into individual communities.

[@Grayfox988]

Whenever Adam Something makes a politics video instead of transportation and urban-planning he reminds all of us why experts should stay within their own field.

[@Steelkicker]

Yeah this videos make it hard to like him

[@TFAltHist]

Not always. Sometimes, he kinda cooks. This is not one of those times.

[@Vontux]

Post your full legal name and government issued ID to prove how having that out there isn't a problem.

[@PersephoneIP]

"This video is sponsored by a company that will ensure your stolen personal data is protected" also this video "The way to fix social media is to upload your personal ID and photos of yourself, plus have your real name on display at all times." Make it make sense.

[@BlackSkyP]

real

[@SarastistheSerpent]

I think the point is to encourage people to _not_ use social media

[@ivanpetrov5255]

I see I'm not the only one who had that thought pop up in their head while listening 😅 Weird that the sponsor is a personal information deletion service, and the main crux of the idea is providing personal information.

[@Movel0]

@@SarastistheSerpent I don't think it would be much of an improvement if the ones who are aware of bots and fake news are the ones leaving social media.

[@juliiija]

​@@SarastistheSerpent if the past couple years have told me anything, messaging apps like telegram and discord are considered social media, which leaves you at tie everything to your legal ID publicly or live isolated from anyone outside where you live.

[@clementbenoist2558]

What a wonderful idea to suppress anonymity, I guess the whistleblowers that constantly get censored in my western european country wouldn't get thrown to jail

[@Bustermachine]

I mean, if you're on the internet you're already not anonymous to government agencies. You're simply not. Anonymity on the internet, in the way most people imagine it, does not meaningfully exist for most activities. And this becoming steadily less true as more governments catch up with how the internet works. Even the GOOD VPNs have their limits in this regards. As for whistleblowers, as near as I know, very few whistleblowers just dump stuff on the internet. The typical methods is to go to a media outlet. Which at least under US law, is not obligated to surrender their sources. And keep in mind, the law is also the only thing preventing the government for just bypassing what little real anonymity you have on the net ANYWAYS. So there is no additional layer of protection there.

[@BecauseSymbols]

Stfu talking like you know things people who take the time to inform themselves before they speak will know there are tools but you must know how to use them although you’re right that VPNs aren’t private but they stopped saying that a while ago

[@Eliphaser]

@@Bustermachine if you're leaking documents as a one-time thing it's far from impossible to be completely anonymous for that one action; how do you think it happens? even having your whole life anonymous online is possible, though risky as a single slip reveals everything, as many cybercriminals have revealed by hiding in plain sight in various fields, only to slip up once and be arrested directly after that, over 10 years after starting their criminal career anonymity for most people is not a thing, sure, but for people that really need it, it in fact is a thing Adam Something's proposition here is just completely unhinged, but tbh that's usually the case for his political takes, he should stick to shitting on billionaire ego projects, trains and walkable cities

[@mitchconner403]

As a software engineer, you certainly are NOT private 😂 Everything goes through your Internet Service Provider. The government can literally force your Internet Service Provider to give up any information that passes to your Public IP. If you use a VPN then it is a different story. Unless you use a VPN then you are not private nor anonymous on anything you do. This isn’t an AD for a specific VPN, just anyone that doesn’t have logs and uses modern encryption. But the better Quantum computing gets the more likely it will be for encryption to no longer work either.

[@BecauseSymbols]

Using any VPN that you yourself do not run on your own independent servers is public even software engineers don’t know more than surface level shit about the technology they handle every day. VPNs log yout activity and hand it over when subpoenaed. End of story. Don’t listen to lies and learn things instead. There are more than enough courses right here on YT and Udemy goes on sale for 20$ a course few times a year

[@DanielVSL]

The internet was a lot better back when everyone was anonymous and social media was just open chat rooms.

[@sweetcherryblast7251]

Please say this video was a joke. The solution is your worse take ever. Reducing the reach of sharing content means the end of many online hobbies(art, philosophy) and requiring a legal name puts many groups in danger. Uncle can just google search family members and see how they have different beliefs. Now imagine your uncle is a whole neighborhood and you're the only one who doesn't believe what they do.

[@BugMagnet]

And that is before you factor in, that you can just write 200 lines of code to have loads and loads of private data linked to proper IDs scraped off these sites. Though still not half as naive as his take on nuclear energy, wher euncle Bill apparently did the research.

[@mattkielan9100]

It's not a joke, it lines up 100% with all his previous political takes. Just a logical extension

[@SadisticSenpai61]

Honestly, it's a "solution" that I've only ever heard proposed by cis men. They really don't get what it's like to know that you can and will be targeted by weirdos and creeps.

[@emilyroseheart4432]

​@@mattkielan9100, it would put trans people like myself in serious danger, as well as invalidate our identity to FORCE our legal names to be use

[@elykcrowblack1712]

Good thing I dont fucking put every shit I do online! Im serious. This isn't even my real name you cant find anything link to my actual identity. Cause there was such a time where we just use papers for everything?

[@leonsmith3836]

Can't support the idea of giving my personal info to verify that I am who I am, there are no social media platforms with a secure enough means of giving that kind of information without it being a serious risk to peoples security and more importantly privacy. The moment you verify yourself with that kind of info and you try and express your opinions or debate someone you're likely gonna be hearing somebody knocking on your front door, and depending where you live will determine if you will be facing police, an angry mob or one very unstable person. There are enough examples of major companies and government infrastructure being breached by skilled or even unskilled hackers that have caused millions in damages through taking and sharing information that is suppose to be kept secure like bank info, names, passwords and addresses.

[@KirkPwns]

Its okay Leon don’t worry. So long as you have the same political leanings as him Im sure god-emperor adam will turn a blind eye . Just make sure all your dangerous and evil right leaning friends are doing it.

[@Mendogology]

Right now the most debates and discussion you talk about, are full of bots and bullshit (from my point of view). Personally, I wouldn't mind that my expressed opinion in the internet had the same consequences as my expressed opinion in real life. Would be nice to at least have one social media like this, I would totally jump to it. It also would be nice to keep other social media as before, for all the people who don't like that idea. Everyone happy.

[@leonsmith3836]

@@Mendogology What Adam is proposing is this to be a requirement for all platforms. Also the moment you have any complaints about a situation happening in your own country like a new leader running things differently or decisions of the current one being questionable. They can easily find out where you live and off to prison you go for whatever law they want to believe you broke.

[@PaulCozma]

​@@leonsmith3836 they already do that, most people are indentified already, and oppressive regimes already block most social media sites, why not get rid of their bots as well

[@Quark214]

This reminds me of that one incident with Blizzard back in 2010, when Blizzard believed there were too many toxic trolls om their forums, so in order to tone down the toxicity, they trued making everyone use their real ids. People were outraged, and rightly so, then thee was this one Blizzard employee who couldn’t understand why everyone was so outraged, so he made all of his info public himself to provenit’s perfectly safe.He quickly understood why it’s a bad idea.

[@neetenshi]

"Social media is an absolute hellscape" I agree "My solution to this is making social media a dystopian nightmare" What

[@cx24venezuela]

It's not dystopian in the sense that, in a free World you can Say what ever you want without fear. The problem, the Big problem is that we really don't live in a free World and we need both to criticize our goverment , culture, religion and employers, and not end on a death camp. Right now a Big problem is that oppresive regime spent money on justify their atrocities while seeding chaos on free World

[@alexhighgarden6018]

this is a horrible idea idk how he's suggesting that seriously. This is done without any malicious actors in mind. Is this a parody?

[@Blaze6108]

I would argue this WOULD solve the problems proposed, and create lesser problems by comparison, but I do agree it is a sub-optimal solution. I would keep the ID system but replace it with pseudonymous identity backed by a real ID, using strong cryptography. The social media company would be able to know you're a real person, but not who you actually are. Also, if they want to, a social media organization could choose as a matter of market preference to require real names. Besides, lots of social media already have a real name policy. Twitter is the most prominent that doesn't, and I don't think it's by chance it's also the most prominently insane one, even pre-Musk.

[@alexhighgarden6018]

@@Blaze6108 real IDs mean the state would get you. The good thing is that it's good for catching criminals, the bad thing is that states decide what is criminal. You can't hand that much power to the state

[@mrpepin]

​@@alexhighgarden6018Honestly, the guy has started saying more and more unhinged ignorant bullshit lately. I used to be happy to watch his videos, until a few months ago, but it's getting more and more alarming. Guess he's slowly reaching the ego driven point where the people he is dunking on have been at for some time. 😢

[@Asurnasurpal]

I am a victim of domestic abuse, and I gotta say, the idea of being legally compelled to put my full name and information for public consumption, where my abuser could find and harass me, is not an attractive prospect.

[@david.kizivat]

Adam: “Record yourself with an ID… your full legal name would be displayed at all times…” Also Adam: “Remove your personal information from the web at ”

[@yoyogre]

He did mention the service would be publicly owned. And since the government already has your full name and ID, it's not like you would reveal any new information about yourself.

[@Joacazz]

There is even no need for this. You can just link your social media account with a government account, and the government account would be responsible for proving you are a real being. Like we do in real life, with government IDs and such. We need to stop pretending that the internet is not the real world.

[@anubis2814]

He just invented a draconian version of mastodon, the trains of social media.

[@toko099o]

Like...its a known issue that many women end up needing to hide their legal names as creepy guys stalk they never met stalk them...and proposing to make so everyone's legal name is visible at all times...

[@yoyogre]

@@toko099o I'm not suggesting Facebook should be a role model, but displaying your legal name and asking for your ID is exactly what they do. And I haven't seen a lot of boomers complain about that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And, the creepy stalkers also have legal names. Legal names that can be written on a restraining order.

[@maarchalk2840]

You know Adam, I see where you're coming from. Like me you're a European, you already use your ID for many services and you trust your government (and in some cases the private corporations that handle their data). If my government regulated social media, I don't think I have to be too scared of censorship. We Belgians scored 19th place out of 180 countries on the World Press Freedom Index this year, so I'm pretty confident in that statement. Sadly these changes you're proposing here would affect everyone on earth, locking out the millions of people who only feel safe online or don't trust their government for whatever reason from communicating would be quite bad actually. But I don't think this is entirely unsalvageable, the propositions for private companies are obviously good. Private businesses need to be held accountable and should certainly be obligated to share income information etc. Just uhh... maybe get back to this topic at some point cause this aint it chief. Also please don't insult my country like that... Like I get it, we're a joke, we've got horrible polarization issues (that's not very unique at the moment) and we've got two halves of a country that refuse to communicate on anything. But we do agree on reality, like we have a system in place, it's not a very good system but it's an agreement.

[@Mr_Topek]

They do share their income tho. There are government websites in all EU countries showing the income and tax rates of all registered companies including more info like company ID, location, HQ and more.

[@thomasfplm]

I agree with your point about identification.

[@pancakes8670]

This is the most measured and level headed response I've seen in this comment section, rather than people hearing the words "you must show your IDs" and immediately screaming "GEORGE ORWELL 1984!!!"

[@afatcatfromsweden]

Right on man!

[@anubis2814]

He just invented a draconian version of mastodon, the trains of social media.

[@TEHSMISH]

"to combat missinformation we need to upload our taxes, id and face to socal media. this message brought to you by delete me" fucking incredible.

[@RIP212]

It's the price you have to pay, to stop misinformation. And, yeah, ID should be enough to allow posting etc, but I don't think it should be always shown to public.

[@_MysterySock]

it's a good thing that we don't require government ID at this moment to do that. In the mean time we can probably use the services of the ad. Idk one's a suggestion and the other is ad for the current reality. it's really not that hard to seperate the two and at this moment don't really work against each other.

[@AlbatrossCommando]

​@@RIP212If that's the only way to stop misinformation then all hail misinformation! Thankfully it isn't and Adam Something is just a nanny state nitwit.

[@RIP212]

@@AlbatrossCommando I'm sure he'll post clarifications like he does when he fails to cover all corner cases not to make video too long. Why it's OK to upload ID to use bank, but it's not OK to upload ID to use Social Media platform? Information and money are both as important as sensitive topics, so why have regulations with money, but not with information? Nobody will stop you to post blog posts on your self hosted website, nobody forces platform to deanon you, I think that's definitely an overlook by Adam. But platform should have proof and should know that you're a real person. It also doesn't mean that platform will share this data with governments. Especially totalitarian one like Russia, China, Iran etc. I think it makes sense, just needs to be nicely designed and thought through to protect freedom of speech and privacy, while removing bots and misinformation to the max.

[@tuluppampam]

​@@RIP212why are there regulations with money but not information? Because money belongs to someone and we do not want our money to go anywhere without our permission. Information is not something you can possess in the same way, and it wouldn't directly cause someone's harm if it were to be spread (there is a small amount of sensitive information that should not be shared, such as legal name, address, etcetera). If you know that I adore the corrida (I actually don't, it's boring) you do not really know who I am. And that allows me to be free to spread my opinions with the freedom of not getting beaten up or insulted by people who could have an effect on my life. Information is more free and truthful when there are no repercussions on a person's life other than maybe a banned account. Misinformation can thrive in such an environment, but it can be defeated with proper education and proper research publications (which have someone's name attached to them, ensuring trust in its validity). We already have a source of truthful information, and people do not suddenly become smarter if they have to give an untrustworthy third party all their personal details. There are scientific publications for that.

[@Wesyan1999]

"this video is sponsored by a company that deletes your online data. Anyways, my solution for fixing social media is making all of your legal info publicly available on social media"

[@adnankhalid8457]

Trains ?

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Yeah

[@hayrotheguye7511]

I like trains

[@gitgut4977]

also a zionist conspiracy /s (this is a Joke!)

[@VolkerGoller]

Twitter is a train wreck. That’s all it takes to get him going 😅. But he is right

[@zedudli]

Trains are the best

[@mr.le-capibar]

Damn, Adam, as a radical leftist who NEEDS the anonymity, can't agree with that solution. Your solution is just too hopeful of the state, pretty much the tool of our oppression. While I do agree that Social media in the hands of corporations is cancer, being in a constant state of vigilance sure is fighting that cancer in terms of deadliness.

[@cx24venezuela]

The thing is we are already oppresed. I don't like Adam solución. But i get , daily, propaganda of Rusia, Israel and el salvador trying to persuade me that their regimes are good.

[@ahorseofcourse7283]

@@cx24venezuela Doxxing yourself to the "impartial organization" running the state-sanctioned Information Sharing Network isn't going to stop Putin from buying gullible idiots to vomit idiotic takes onto the internet, my dude.

[@pancakes8670]

It's more like having a public park. Parks are owned and maintained by the government, so why not Social Media? If the State is going to be there, why not use it for something good like Corporate Moderation? And if you're state is a Democracy (which as a Leftist you should enjoy Democracy) then you have direct control over it.

[@anubis2814]

He just invented a draconian version of mastodon, the trains of social media.

[@houndofculann1793]

@@pancakes8670 your comment is hugely dependent on what you mean with "a democracy". Most radical leftists for example wouldn't consider the US or most European countries to be actual democracies.

[@nishitgautam5524]

If the changes to social media sites as you suggested are actually implemented, most of the Indian left online will be in jail and that includes myself lol

[@Sajuek]

Obviously this is only a change you would implement under a left wing government. Being able to use and control social media to ensure that elections are fortified in the left’s favour could keep conservatives away from the apparatus of the state potentially forever. It’s not something we can ignore.

[@jakobc.2558]

Obviously he ins't advocating for countries that already have a fascist government to implement internet ID. This video is specificaly titled "(before it destroys democracy)".

[@wildfire9280]

@@jakobc.2558 You can have an authoritarian democracy.

[@fruhlingsrolle7303]

@@jakobc.2558Every government could turn facist. Every democracy could falter for a few years.

[@Desimere]

@@jakobc.2558 so you ban sus countries like Russia, US, India, China from your site?

[@laszlosimonburjan2140]

Adam: Having private information online is dangerous, you should pay people to delete it! Also Adam: You should absolutely disclose all private informaton online, for like, democracy

[@nl4real]

Did it not occur to you as a leftist that de-anonymization would make leftists and marginalized groups more vulnerable? Centralization is the issue here. Where do you think a bad actor will get more eyeballs for their racist propaganda, Stormfront or Facebook?

[@Parciwal_Gaming]

I agree with the idea of a publicly funded service, but the ID idea is just terrible

[@juliiija]

@@Parciwal_Gaming it sounds good but looking at the local laws I don't know if I trust social media as a public funded service either if it means censoring a happy gay or polyamorous family as 18+

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

Implying people aren’t vulnerable now? No solution is gonna be perfect but what we have right now is a threat to our societal fabric. Changes like this are what’s necessary

[@jellewijckmans4836]

The magical thing about social media is that it naturally centralizes itself. You want to be on the thing all of your friends are on and they want that for all their friends until everybody is on the same 3ish sites. Social media is in a very real sense a natural monopoly.

[@aprilcalhoun8984]

I’m not sure if that’s the biggest issue here. Before billionaires the wealthy still saw themselves as more or less human. Now they are all building bunkers and asking experts how to keep their private armies loyal like they are larping fallout. Too much money seems to alienate people from human feeling. Next thing you know nothing is too extreme.

[@kampfpanzerleopard346]

Counter argument to full name being on display at all times. That would cause quite a few people to get arrested for their posts. In some countries that could mean the smallest amount of criticism towards the government. Being anonymous online is very important for some people.

[@admbeck]

More than a government, sometimes anonymity is also protection against society. In my muslim country women often use social media to anonymously solicit help if they became a victim of domestic abuse or rape. Attaching their full names to their pleas for help could literally lead to their deaths

[@francescc5272]

If a government wants to find you, they will. If something stops them, it is not anonimity.

[@Eliphaser]

@@francescc5272 anonymity can absolutely stop them; the super-deep research to figure out who exactly people are takes a lot of time, effort, tech and knowledge and is generally restrained to use towards large scale cybercriminal operations or terrorism internationally, and even then some people are sufficiently anonymous online to evade the authorities for years and years until they do a slip-up like using the wrong account, and they mainly get caught because they're constantly being monitored online due to their high profile status it also helps you from being protected of harassment and assault by non-state actors, like, say, being a gay/trans activist in a country with far-right militias trying to find such people and beating them up even hiding the identity from the public but still having it in the website's database is a risk, given how often such companies have security breaches (or the government itself, too)

[@TheWoodenshark]

I can see far more issues that aren't even related to the risk of government abuse. Companies could routinely look up if you're not posting some undesirable things under your legal name which might involve anything from gay stuff to having political opinions that aren't 100% milquetoast nothingburgers. People being at personal risk for coming out as queer under their legal name. People being accosted and harassed in real life for publicly associating or working with groups that are already at high risk. People being unable to express themselves and interact with others like them because things they say will be always under their legal name and can be subjected to a scrutiny of their environment, family, etc.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Especially seeing how in the real world, the government can't identify the specific words of specific people in most circumstances

[@Radar_of_the_Stars]

who are you and what have you done with Adam? This is insane, it has to be some form of joke

[@furinick]

Sometimes we all say stupid shit, let's wait to see if he keeps it up, then we'll know

[@danielandresriveraflores8865]

@@furinick fella doubled down

[@killer7smith]

He's going off the rails. I don't think people follow his content to hear his divisive political opinions. I certainly don't

[@mam0lechinookclan607]

sometimes he hangs to much in his own bubble, same with the videos about Russia and Ukraine, he predicted Russia would capitulate by tomorrow, like three times already, every other take was "propaganda from the other side"

[@mollusckscramp4124]

inb4 Adam's correction/apology video upload 😂 (dw trainman, we'll forgive you for your "momentary lapse in judgement")

[@SadisticSenpai61]

As a person that was born female... I absolutely do NOT want to be posting my real name or anything that could be used to stalk me online. Cuz well, that stuff happens. All the fucking time. BTW, there are a lot of ppl on Facebook using their real names, identifying their workplaces, etc that post some pretty unhinged stuff online and engage in all kinds of horrible behaviors (including sexual harassment and stalking). So using your real name online definitely does not prohibit these behaviors either. Honestly, this is a "solution" that only someone born male (and white) would ever think is a good idea. The rest of us are aware that the world is a very dangerous place and anonymity is not only important, but protects us.

[@sanjaynataraj2009]

I don't think it's a "born male" or "born female" issue. He's trying so hard to reverse the spread of fascist propaganda that his solution is just to go insanely far left and overly totalitarian. He brought up some really good points, but his solution is effectively just "far right? make it far left now"

[@kasrakhatir]

No it wouldn't work for males either. Imagine being an unsponsored activist in Balkans and India or Pakistan. It's doesn't matter what you are. It's your opinion that will cost your life.

[@SadisticSenpai61]

@@kasrakhatir Fair point. I added "and white" cuz honestly it's an idea I've only ever heard from white cis men. But ofc, anyone who's part of a minority or a group that is targeted by governments or bigotry would also be aware this is a bad idea - which does also include quite a few white cis men.

[@flomax9495]

@@SadisticSenpai61 ehh the specification is kinda weird regardless, generally its better to look at the political bubble because thats something a human can influence and it might help finding out why the person came to that conclusion, also i know more white cis men who are against then for it, so it isn't even a real argument

[@SadisticSenpai61]

@@flomax9495 Most of the white cis men that I know have also been against it. And yet the only ppl I've ever heard speak in favor of this sort of thing have been white cis men. There's a reason for that - particularly in English-speaking parts of the internet.

[@SpoopySquid]

As a trans person, i can think of a few reasons why forcing me to register with my ID and display my legal name at all times when i'm online would be a very bad idea

[@patsonical]

inb4 the "YWNBAW" spammers (if that's you reading, kindly fuck off), you are valid just the way you are/want to be, don't listen to these pricks Also 100% agreed on your point, there's no way I'm giving random sites such sensitive data

[@chaoskiddo5996]

Holy fu- i havent even thought of that Nope nopety nope

[@argentuuuum]

Same, I was genuinely taken off guard when he said that, it would be so awful :(

[@ondrikb]

Exactly. I thought he hated authoritarian states like China, guess what this system is just like the real name registration that's required in China minus maybe the tax return part. I don't think they'they're insane enough for that yet.

[@icyhotonmynuts]

Right? Who wants their identity stolen? Apparently the poster of this video. We see them in romance scams all the time. Also, what's to keep the social media site from getting hacked because of some 0day vulnerability, or just shitty sec ops. Hard pass.

[@TangledLion]

So as a trans woman i agreed with this vid riiiiiiight up until you suggested everyone have to have their face and full legal name online at all times. There are MANY potential issues with such a measure such as: 1. What if i live in a country where i have been unable to get a legal name change? I'm just forced to present as that name online too and cant even add a nickname? That takes away the ability to truly be yourself online. 2. A lotta trans folks personal gender exploration relies on the anonymity many sites can provide to figure themselves out. With the social stigma that exists around gender roles, i know im MY case if i had to broadcast exactly who i am irl during every step of the process then that exploration wouldnt have happened. 3. Using someones real name to find their adress is quite easy. This issue applies to almost any marginalized group but what if someone decides to make an example out of you and uses your legel name to track you down and commit a hate crime?

[@rustkitty]

Exactly. I find it even more insulting, because I live in Hungary where Adam is from too, and it's the only country in the EU where legal gender transition is straight up banned. It's bad enough that I have to use deadname for all official business and will have to until I can move away and get a different citizenship, if I had to use my ID name on the Internet too I'd probably just quit social media.

[@debesys6306]

i know some people who post about being trans online who would literally be kicked out if their parents found out :(

[@dru1432]

"Your full legal name is displayed at all times" - That's how you put vulnerable people at risk: women who get stalked by their crazy ex, activists, heck - even people who disagree with the political views of their boss might get fired... and I'm just scratching the surface here - so many different reasons why people need to stay anonymous... So, absolutely no to this suggestion.

[@ultimaIXultima]

But only your friends are going to see you. Did you not see how posts only go out to your friends? You absolutely can stay anonymous, just use an unverified account.

[@darxoonwasser]

@@ultimaIXultima "just use an unverified account" and lose the ability to post, like, comment, etc, like how Adam suggested?

[@Nova32x]

@@ultimaIXultima Why would I want to vent to my friends on twitter when I can just text them and keep it personal. People use twitter as a blog and a platform to expose views. Same example as OP, bringing to light the abuses of a certain boss and looking for others who've had similar experience either with the same boss or in general. But now amongst those account could be my boss who is able to see my real name now and fire me because I pointed out his abuses.

[@baha3alshamari152]

​@@ultimaIXultima If one of them got hacked then you will get exposed

[@divineglitch9550]

doesn't matter hackers will find a way to get you if you put your face online.

[@tech-bore8839]

Adam: "You should use your real name online." Also Adam: "You need to remove your data from data brokers...by using this sponsor who paid me." Totally makes sense. /s

[@bluespart]

I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, for the punchline when he started describing the end of privacy on the web, but it never came. And with a sponsorship about removing your private info from the internet no less.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Yeah, this feels like half a video where the other half's "And if you felt uncomfortable with my solutions, good, because here's how those same solutions have been peddled by [insert group] to take away your privacy."

[@NICK....]

i'm hoping in like a week he'll come out and say this was some test to check if his audience's bullshitometers were still working

[@villentretenmerth11]

bro advocated for the Panopticon on main I hope he sticks to trains and urbanism until he properly reads up on new subjects from now on

[@loopholesloopy]

feels like a video where the sponsor came first and the content second

[@theamazingspiderwuss4236]

@@NICK....a week? Bros already walking stuff back in a community post an hour later lmao

[@soyuzsovietsky]

As someone who draws nsfw art on twitter, the ideal social media here would result in me PROBABLY getting blacklisted from 90% of employment lmao

[@Riu-bw4bl]

Same. Fanart and fanfiction… I DONT want to be irl linked to them lol

[@soyuzsovietsky]

@@Riu-bw4bl same. If I had to have my legal name on my ao3 I would DIE

[@vinievex]

Same, these ideas are absolutely awful

[@cornlobby8404]

This. I really don't need employers, government officials, family members, and closed minded zealots against self-expression finding my explicit works and immediately linking it back to me in real life so they can say or do whatever.

[@erinw6120]

This is 100% why conservatives push age verification through uploading copies of government IDs for adult sites under the guise of "protecting children".

[@kingwingerning2214]

Holy Shit please just stick with Urban Planning from now on

[@AcidCommunistAachen]

For Urban Planning just watch @radicalplanning

[@jaydenthegreat6469]

no seriously 😂

[@dkebaili]

For real. Unironically suggesting I send my passport or biometrics to techbro CEOs while shilling for DeleteMe? Suggesting that we can fix the spread of misinformation by hoping old people can't learn how to copy-paste? This is how you lose subscribers, bro.

[@dinamitardopazzo1080]

@@dkebaili oh no! Do you know what an External Identity Provider is? :)

[@creeper6530]

I agree. DOes he even acknowledge that the radicalisation is on far-left as well? I hope he returns to objective urban planning and ditches politics.

[@Vianyte]

Authoritarian measures are definitely not the solution to the problems with social media.

[@v2.x464]

its hilarious that your proposed solution is to remove privacy while you promote a privacy focused service.

[@MG-mh8xp]

Adam I love you. I like your stuff, your progressive policies you push for, your thoughts on current wars, and standing on identity politics. I like it all. but good god, no. we should not have literally everyone be fully public online. to force everyone to dox themselves is dangerous. there's a good fucking reason why that's not the case. and you speak of legal punishment for misinformation, how are we to trust states to decide what's misinfo and what's not? imagine someone in egypt being taken to prison for spreading "misinformation" about how awful their government is. imagine the hundreds of thousands of lgbtq people being fully doxed online and easy to spot under trump's american regime, where states were FULLY gearing to start making us illegal. imagine immigrants trying to get into our country, seeking asylum, only for ICE to know exactly where they are, and shoot them dead/imprison them in cages. this is awful. this is not the solution. this is all thought of under the assumption that the people in power WON'T use this information against us, and they absolutely fucking will.

[@dianavespid937]

Best comment by far.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

...thus proving that the road to hell is paved with good intentions and that the ends do not always justify the means

[@amadeosendiulo2137]

Uhm, there are multiple reasons why anonymity online is good, from anonymous artists to atheist queer people from Islamic countries sharing their experience.

[@emberthecatgirl8796]

I was waiting for the punchline that never came Honestly, it sounds like satire, but it isn’t even funny

[@justhowlthankyou]

Im glad I'm not the only one lol. Im still shocked that this wasn't satire. Like this idea would cause more problems. And also just limits people's freedom. Social media currently is a hellscape. Ragebait and misinformation are a huge problem. But it's naive to think that will go away if you remove ppl's anonymity. Also what queer folks who don’t want to be outed or have their deadname readily available? Or what about ppl who just want to have fun on internet without having to lose their privacy? What about the amount of propaganda governments will put out if they have complete control of social media?

[@creepycassette]

you should start by posting ur name and tax returns first. be the change you wanna be.

[@Mendogology]

His name (not the surname), his face and the country he is living is already public information. You would know that, if before posting, you have take 10 seconds in google. Also, why he should share his tax returns? What is the point of that?

[@mango6591]

@@Mendogology because those are the changes he proposed, he wants your full name, face, tax returns, among other things to be public

[@ReubsWalsh]

Yes exactly. Very easy to say when you're a cis white guy criticizing Russian warcrimes, islamist dictatorships and bad urban planning while living in the imperial hegemon.

[@Nostalg1a]

@@MendogologyThat’s only half the info he suggests. At this point Adam looks like an hypocrite.

[@creepycassette]

@@Mendogology bro got ratioed in the comments, better delete your mistake before we screenshot it

[@МихаилЧичерск]

Introduce censorship, arrest for the wrong words, ban unaccredited media and all for the sake of.... protecting democracy. Excellent plan. I try not to write comments on the Internet, so as not to risk going to jail, but I just could not pass by a European who admires the policies carried out in Russia and Belarus. I recommend coming to us to feel what is... freedom, unity and justice. (Sorry for mistakes, this is an automatic translation from Russian)

[@agentiq007]

"I love democracy, I love the republic" Chancelor Palpatine

[@redwitch95]

Your automatic translation was perfect, no need to worry. You're completely right - Adam seems to view democracy as completely separate from dictatorships, when the real difference is a single election's results.

[@Mici]

These are the same people who say “freedom has it’s consequences” but necer realize they are the consequence.

[@GamingWithGibby]

Normally like your videos but this was a phenomenally stupid video. I hate Elon as much as the next guy but having the state buy Twitter, forcibly take a photo ID, and then limit you to only interacting with those in your community has got to be the dumbest take I have every seen on this channel. I was genuinely waiting for the "psyche, gotcha" moment that never came.

[@Drizzydiddler]

Only thing i agree with is the verification of who you are to use the internet. Anonymity is responsible for 99% of the terrible behaviour present on the internet. If I could rob 100 million for a bank and it would negatively affect 100,000s of people’s lives and there were zero consequences I would do it tomorrow. Probably says a lot about me but there are people on the internet who just post misinformation and nothing will happen to them most of the time. Everything else he said was super dumb tho.

[@GamingWithGibby]

@@Drizzydiddler Yes that says a lot about you. Most people are not cool with negatively impacting large swaths of people.

[@DeterminationV5]

@@Drizzydiddler The issue is that "no anonymity" would only work in a world where there aren't corrupt people attempting their best to take control over all living humans, censoring all that go against such and dictating what we can and cannot access.

[@HowlandTheFirst]

@@Drizzydiddlerbullshit. People on Facebook mostly have their full name displayed but still abuse and write harassing comments. I am speaking of boomers here. Those, who are targeted mostly by Facebook bullshit

[@trekman10]

Anonymity should be a cornerstone of the internet imo. When we were kids, pre 2012, it was all "don't use your real name online for safety reasons" and now it's "actually you should provide biometric data...for safety reasons"? Nah. Social media isn't just 1:1 dyadic relationships. Social media includes voices that are characters or projects that be ruined by this proposal. I can see the benefit on sites like Facebook and *maybe* Twitter (perhaps with badges denoting whether or not the account that kind of account) but this idea seems to think those are the only two Social media sites, and that KZbin itself isn't one.

[@mahawailoh]

that solution aint it buddy

[@spacean4832]

so your solution is literally just whatsapp

[@Liftium]

Is your family name Something? Where's your picture? Can I see your tax returns please?

[@IBeforeAExceptAfterK]

Underrated post.

[@boahneelassmal]

I am genuinely so bothered by his suggestions.... Yes, his name is easily googlable, but that was the exact thought I had. Why is neither of his social media presences named Adam Kovacs. And it's not like Facebook tried to have a clear name rule with id-card identification and it was ruled illegal under much more lenient privacy laws than GDPR already and it has been solidified by GDPR that personal information may only be gathered it is absolutely necessary to provide that service. And thank god it is like that. But Adam is right, we should definitely give all our private information and a copy of our id card to a company that would love to sell our daily defecation schedule if they could.... Sure he mentioned that social media should be run like public broadcasting services in some countries but christ, public broadcasters (while I love having these independent media outlets, like ARD, ZDF etc) it will instantly get so incredibly bloated (see current public broadcaster structures) that it wouldn't be 10$ a month. And then what's next. You better wear a name tag when going outside...

[@sukhi_3]

In INDIA, we call them WhatsApp uncles or whatsapp university.

[@Banditxam4]

I was about to CMT this.... Being a Muslim in India it's always fun to listen to such people

[@grandmasteryoda6717]

We do the same in Brazil.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

@@Banditxam4 Fun how?

[@AdityaJape]

it doesn't apply to India also muslims are bad

[@anonymousarmadillo6589]

​@@Banditxam4 Penguins man

[@Player_X_YT2]

But why would I give my ID to Mark or Elon? That is just an identity theft speedrun

[@nicholaso1315]

You didn't watch all the way did you? Adam suggested the social media servers be publicly owned/ supported with tax money etc. This would pose its own problems btw, I'm not saying Adam is correct on this either.

[@aze559]

@@nicholaso1315 So instead of just a private billionaire, government workers and the general public can see everything I say, do and who I am. Not everyone lives in western Europe where people don't shit on you for being a furry or part of the lgbtq+ (though even there, there are people who understandably hide their identities.

[@theladyfemi]

The cure should never be worse than the disease. True tolerance is being able to accept that other people have different views. Let people talk. Every idea must be allowed to challenged. The truth always wins.

[@ulawan5]

sorry but the ID verification thing sounds like a surveillance state nightmare, and like people could get into even more insular bubbles if everything is focused on private friend chats/circles This sounds like facebook 2.5 in a bad way

[@MrKyuubiJesus]

These more insular bubbles are pretty much how real life works. I think the ID verification is a bit overboard but I'd also like a platform that doesn't have bots and rage bait farms

[@gfrewqpoiu]

Quite a bit of this misinformation is already happening in private telegram groups, so this would just accelerate the exodus to there.

[@boxfoxreyes9950]

I feel like gaza would just be blip in the news cycle if social media was regulated as he said

[@sorh]

I would not give my address to a social media website, let alone my ID..

[@kyramonnix1520]

There are alternative solutions. What about some arrangement involving decentralized social networks?

[@billcolgate2851]

Your proposal for a social media platform is so bad I have a friend asking if you recently became controlled opposition

[@херзнаетгражданинЕбеньграда]

i'm from russia and i will be charged with political crimes if your idea were to be implemented. also, would you trust the social media companies with your personal data? i wouldn't edit: although having people concerned about me is a pleasant feeling, i don't deserve it as i am not in any immediate danger, unlike those going against the russian government openly, using their real names and faces (read about Boris Nemtsov). that being said, слава украине

[@pleasy13]

Stay safe, buddy.

[@agent7176]

Please stay safe. I don't know your situation, but I hope it doesn't go bad.

[@mrlogy6126]

Twitter is the biggest bs ever

[@orangedullness2268]

this is the stupidest idea I've ever heard you know what's legal in your country is not legal in others right? lgbt people, people who speak against their gov would be so screwed if their identities are public. have you heared of doxxing for god's sake?

[@LegendOfTheFLame393]

Hell being certain races or religions, nationality , sexuality will get your home toeched by certain groups bro is mad because people disagree with him

[@thedebateboy1044]

@@LegendOfTheFLame393most of us dont want to burn or kill the other side but all of the people on the other side want to burn us at the stake,these people infect others like crazy and want to uproot everything we have worked and fought so many wars for their proposed fantasies that if allowed to would lead to fascist dictatorships springing all over europe and usa.I propose instead of adam's verification method we should have moderatorship like reddit,yes i know it has a neo liberal bias but we have conservative subreddits too where people act as actual conservatives not hungry wolves crying for genocide

[@fawkewe]

Dude also ONLY talks about conservatives. He fails to mention any left wing disinformation or threats, when there is several, even on twitter. Almost as if he thinks this will only affect conservatives and believes all liberals will be immune. Ironically he is just as insane as he claims conservatives are just in the other way.

[@anneewazhere7578]

​@@LegendOfTheFLame393Even living in a country where these things aren't illegal, I'd prefer that my teachers, classmates, college admission committee and employers don't know my sexuality, just because they searched my face.

[@Admiral45-10]

His own nation has Cancel Culture - which made it even weirder to me, that he didn't realize it.

[@Dante...]

The sheer hypocrisy of having Delete Me as a sponsor and then suggesting that everyone should have to dox themselves to use social media. Just... wow. Please tell me this is an out of season April Fools joke.

[@SwiftySanders]

It's a September Fools joke. 🤣

[@Zinozad]

Remember when he was badmouthing Cities Skyline and in the next video his sponsor was Cities Skyline ? I remember. Though that hypocrisy was nothing compared to the one in this video.

[@Dante...]

@@Zinozad Really? I don't remember that. What videos were they?

[@Zinozad]

@@Dante... I don't remember which ones either.

[@tadghsmith1457]

I posted the same thing, You beat me to it. Hypocrisy thy name is Adam Something. He is literally a capitalism loving Commie.

[@Zinozad]

He's going off the rails with this one. Adam, stick to trashtalking stupid billionaires, that's what you're good at.

[@lexus8018]

He is panicking, he sees social media leave the leftist highly moderated politically correct atmosphere of the late 2010s and now wants to carpet bomb censor anything and everything he dislikes.

[@Bell-et1lg]

Adem I don’t care how much YOUR life revolves around social media. We absolutely don’t need to be taxed to support any social interaction platform.

[@TrackLab]

Is this proposition with clear name forcing, address declaration, and above 10K followers having to puplicate your taxes? This is the most insane "plan to improve social media" I have ever seen. Nothing I would have ever expected to be said by you, of all people. Just..what?

[@TctyaDDKhang]

Improve via de-corporatization by submitting to even more state control of speech and opinion? Yeah, no.

[@BarfussLeben]

Norway publishes tax returns on every person and business. To my knowledge, they have not collapsed yet.

[@vaniokrikaR]

He forgot to mention that at 100K followers you'll have to send a picture of your genitals.

[@lonestarr1490]

I think he's quite aware of the fact that this won't ever happen. Instead, I think the proposition is supposed to show just how difficult the problem really is. Our societies have reached a state of interconnectivity where accountability effectively breaks down and could only be retrieved via extreme measures.

[@ineednochannelyoutube2651]

I think he got away with it because it does still manage to sound less shitty than what we have now, but it definitely harms too many liberties we need as a society, ESPECIALLY privacy. I think there are good ideas, like the end of corporate control and legal responsibility for threats made online, but it's still pretty bad imo. I know that it will never come to pass in America, because even a court that isn't as biased towards the right as ours is now would strike the law down as shitting all over the 1st amendment.

[@LaurianeG.]

You must be very privileged not to have to worry about your identity being always public online...... Like this would so obviously backfire and lead to persecution an discrimination I am baffled you didn't stop to think about it for a second. And wen you see how much public figures are happy spreading hate and misinformation it would not even solve anything.

[@karlmarx9255]

yeah thats a crazy statement. people speaking openly about pro choice or trans rights or whatever is considered leftist are already a target by rightwing extremists even without their full name anywhere just imagine doxxing all those people

[@alexseguin5245]

Everybody I know on social media is using their real name. I have yet to see a clear argument as to how this would be worse than whatever exists right now.

[@railgun517]

@@alexseguin5245 Your sample size is tiny. A very small percentage of people I have seen on the internet over the last 20+ years uses their actual name, even on social media. Those that do, generally don't understand the internet very well. Doesn't mean they never understand it, but they were always a meme, and for good reason. Anonymity is rule 1.

[@Rybka599]

AND WHO IS TELLING YOU TO VERIFY YOURSELF. That's the point, if you want to spread something then you would need to verify so you dont do bs.. And @railgun517 please stop being so anonymous, do you realise that current companies HAVE your name and etc because of profiling and stuff anyways? KZbin know who you are better that you do and they are selling it to highest bidder so..

[@yavvivvay]

@@railgun517 the vast majority of facebook boomers use real names.

[@gabiausten8774]

I’d like to share my perspective. I met my wonderful fiancé through social media, even though he lives on the other side of the planet. When we're apart, it's how we stay connected. I’ve also met amazing friends from all over the world who travel and live in different places, and social media helps us stay close, share experiences, and lift each other’s spirits when distance separates us. While social media rightfully gets its share of criticism, we’ve completely overlooked the good it can bring. Like many things, it’s either a gift or a curse, the only help is education, but what you advocate for is a totalitarian nightmare.

[@Riu-bw4bl]

Thats my problem with a lot of these videos. The internet its self is not bad. My life has been saved by the friends I have met on here and as a very depressed and out casted gay teen. There are specific problems making the internet an issue and people falling into that. This is not a all or nothing and people are too black and white on this issue. Corporations, governments, Algorithms, manipulation on social media (started with phycological addiction studies with facebook) and putting money before enjoyment online. I miss forums, people putting together their own websites and fandom blogs, better games and mmo’s (in most ways , not all) and privacy violations. Less people would be on social media if the addiction manipulation and froced app dopamine wasn’t involved and people who use the internet for actual hobbies or Passion or wanting connection would be on there more. The only sites I use now and enjoy most have no algorithms and is user funded. (Ao3 and the non algorithm original set up of Tumblr or live journal) Not much of this was discussed on this video. But there are many more ways to discuss saftey and manipulation online with better points than and lot in this video. Powerful people taking over the biggest spaces of social media, algorithms pushing dangerous ideas onto the average person, and the addiction people get from arguing and harassing people online are some of the biggest.

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I meet my now husband actually on a Pastafarian online group almost a decade. It took a long time before we could afford to move closer to each other. It won't have happened if this solution to social media was in place

[@tangero3462]

Like, yes, social media is dangerous, but it is also as much of a hell as you make it. I follow artists, musicians, and my friends on Instagram, with the only politics coming from news aggregators like ground news and atlas news. I basically only use Facebook for its forum features and the occasional marketplace jaunt. I don't have a solution to the problems of impressionable people being sucked into conspiracy dens, but I don't think "burn down the status quo because people are too stupid to be trusted" is the answer.

[@gabiausten8774]

@@tangero3462 Thank you for sharing your opinion! People being misled has always been a thing. Governments and democracy being destroyed have happened well enough without social media up till now, so I think people also overestimate the threat. These people are often worried, lonely, and would do a lot to find their community. See the flat earth era being proven wrong again and again, but still meeting up, doing their conventions, experiments, and podcasts. People always want to feel right and special, like only they are enlightened and know the truth. It’s on us to not fall for that, educate them, reach out, correct them again and again, and so on. It will never stop, because it was always around, just in a different form.

[@gabiausten8774]

@@tangero3462 Thank you for sharing your opinion! People being misled has always been a thing. Governments and democracy being destroyed have happened well enough without social media up till now, so I think people also overestimate the threat. These people are often worried, lonely, and would do a lot to find their community. See the flat earth era being proven wrong again and again, but still meeting up, doing their conventions, experiments, and podcasts. People always want to feel right and special, like only they are enlightened and know the truth. It’s on us to not fall for that, educate them, reach out, correct them again and again, and so on. It will never stop, because it was always around, just in a different form.

[@F_Print]

The irony of promoting a service that supposedly removes personal information from the web while also proposing people should disclose their full ID when signing up for social media isn't lost on me. Also, I can't wait to face legal consequences when accounts post rule-breaking content on Social Media A using my personal info that they stole or bought from Social Media B. Don't get me wrong, I hate what bots and trolls are doing to the internet, but I don't think the solution you offer is the right one.

[@huzi990]

Adam, this video is making you look like Uncle Bill. Terrible terrible idea with your social media verification idea. Also, the sponsor for this video is certainly a choice.

[@bludragun]

Oh cool, I'll display my name everywhere and my abusive family gets to find me and harass me

[@anneewazhere7578]

Don't worry, you can always change your name 💕 I mean afterwards, they could always use any picture they have of you to track down your account that has a mandatory photo of your face as a PFP, through the sites that are currently available and working horrifyingly well, but that's not Adam's problem.

[@aqueuse]

your plan is a nightmare

[@michaelsurratt1864]

The bots and Republicans are really pissed

[@ZotyLisu]

@@michaelsurratt1864 nah, you don't need to be a republican or conservative to think the proposed solution is insane (the issues are real tho)

[@huzi990]

@@ZotyLisu Legitimately a terrible idea from Adam in this one.

[@MyPrideFlag]

He wants to create a real democracy like Democratic Republic of Korea, or Democratic Repubkic of Kongo.

[@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit]

@@michaelsurratt1864 hello, I'm neither a bot nor a conservative (literally voted a demsoc party earlier this year), and this is a terrible plan.

[@NoNameBAM]

Elon Musk proposed your solution before. Just to show how much of a bad idea it is.

[@Neontiger246]

Imagine getting fired from your job because you had a bad take on twitter. Giving out your real name just turns online harassment into crimes. All this does is force those terrible people to hide away in even worse echo chambers. The problem is with the algorithms themselves creating extremists. A MUCH more realistic solution is to just educate people about these algorithms and how they manipulate you

[@JorgeLopez-qj8pu]

That already happens 😒 send a "real" DMCA and the company has to take it down or you HAVE to give them your REAL info.

[@Dromaeosaurs]

So, you want to solve this by: - getting rid off privacy - giving the government complete control over the social media (at least that's how I understand the public server stuff, what if I don't want to pay mandatory 5$ for shitty website? Also someone has to own the servers)

[@utubinator]

You realize it takes money to run a website, right? That the money has to come from somewhere, currently by harvesting your data so advertisers can sell to you

[@vaniokrikaR]

@@utubinator Yeah I am sure my corrupted government will do a better job of protecting me from misinformation than some guy that just cares about money.

[@burkino7046]

@@utubinator But here's the great thing about capitalism and private companies, if you don't like what they're doing, you don't have to use it. Adam's idea is to add it onto taxes. What if I don't like the direction the site is going? If I speak out about it on the site there's a high chance I'll be censored, plus the government will know who I am and can silence me further. This is basically 1/10th of the way to the CCP's tactics. One thing it's missing is monitoring and re-educating you if you see something you shouldn't have.

[@metrogooninmakeitgoon]

@@utubinator what about mastodon? donations?

[@Mendogology]

Privacy? How is identifying yourself get rid off your own privacy? "Hello, My name Is John Smith" - said John Smith while getting rid off his privacy. (sounds legit, yeah?) Literally, the only people who want to to hide its own identity, is the people who want to talk shit, their fear the consequences of it, and cowardly they hide. Internet would be infinite amount of times better without those people "opinions", most of them being just bots. If you want to express your opinion, it's amazing, but deal with the consequences of it. And about your second statement about governments, I must say that I agree with you.

[@FuyuzuKii]

"You need to show your legal name, country of residence, and taxes to use social media" is perhaps the worst take you've ever made, especially how you paid zero heed to the massive consequences of this and why the anonymity of the internet exists in the first place. Nor will handing over social media to state control magically fix everything, because we already have countries with state-controlled social media that use it as a tool for propaganda and censorship. Obviously the system as is is in a terrible, easily-abusable state, but requiring legal IDs and government control just to talk to people online will never fly.

[@petersmythe6462]

And STILL not having the ability to make a good damn quora question or KZbin video or comment visible to strangers without legally being a trusted Newspaper

[@recordkeepingandinformatio8206]

Update: we destroyed democracy :c

[@bowlerhatfromspace]

i strongly oppose the idea of requiring government IDs to use or confirm social media accounts. many people (particularly marginalized folks like queer/bipoc people) use social media to speak out against abuse or seek support from communities, and attaching a personal identity can pose serious risk to them, especially if they live in a household or region where their identities are considered criminal. there is also the major privacy concerns with having to trust the platform or a third party to secure the information and not have it shared. data brokers already have obscene amounts of personal information on us, and this will just add to that pile. of course, your sponsor would be fine with this because thats how they would keep get business. yes social media as it exists is a dumpster fire, but having people give up their personal information and privacy to "verify" is not the solution whatsoever.

[@alexy3988]

yes, but you already give all personal info for having the axes to the internet (to your wire company) and in principle it is not a very big problem to find a person by IP address. And the main porous of reforming a social media is destroying a data brokers business as a concept....

[@wearegeek]

There are other ways, besides social media to anonymously communicate with other likeminded people. But on the social media where you post publically, your real identity should be confirmed. At least to the proprietor of that social media outlet, but preferably your real name should be visible to everyone.

[@Simoky99]

@@alexy3988 finding someones IP is not that trivial, and most people won't do that anyway. its much easier to target someone if you already know their names/identity. besides, VPNs are a thing

[@Simoky99]

@@wearegeek with the same practicity as social media? as in you being able to seek your community everyday without having to spend money/considerable time to drive there?

[@apinakapina]

@@alexy3988 Well. That really depends. So if you're hiding behind a made-up name to post commentary (and not something illegal) nobody would probably care. You're correct that finding a person by IP/telco is possible, but it's really hard if the govt and telco do not cooperate willingly. So the spheres where this would be easy are US by themselves, and potentially EU by themselves. (Assuming that even EU can get their sh*t together...) Even between these two it seems fairly hard to take the legal process far enough to do anything. Let alone countries that don't even have solid relationships. And what about me being behind seven proxies, some of which are in Russia, Africa and South America?

[@jame8618]

Bro cooked burnt water with this one

[@danstg0721]

I think this may be my first comment on youtube in like 10 years. WTF dude? Anonymity has an absolute value. Demanding verification just empowers the platform owners and endangers anyone who has an dissenting opinion. I know right now that far right and authoritarian actors are the ones taking advantage of social media right now but your solution is to make a system so if they're in control they have a terrifying weapon to punish anyone who does or more importantly did at one time disagree with them. Bad take bro. The best time to delete this was yesterday, but now works as well.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

I agree. He didn't think this out

[@NamelessMoreOne]

Anonymity isn't a right, and if you think companies can't track you just because you didn't verify it, you can be in for a rude awakening. The slight benefits don't outweigh the negative side we are currently living in.

[@AConcernedCitizen11]

@@NamelessMoreOne If it isnt a right then put your name on your account, your nickname is nameless, what a 🤡

[@Abandon-art]

@@NamelessMoreOne Completelety agree. He's delusional. -> Adam didn't think it through enough though. You could alternatively impose ID check and let people have a pseudo displayed. The Report feature would reach the ID and bring it to authorities.

[@dimasakbar7668]

I don't even live in a dictatorship, or am political dissidents but that idea would automatically endanger: 1. people seeking means of abortions 2. people seeking sex ed beyond abstinence only 3. LGBTQ+ people 4. sex worker and people seeking such 5. labor / customer whistleblowing practices from inside 6. member of press leaking news that the editorial choose to silence due to ties 7. atheist and agnostics Basically you turn internet into linkedin😂. But yeah, that may work in western europe.

[@Hyde-dg7ef]

the verification process sounds good up until someone hacks and steal those id documents

[@patsonical]

Or the company just sells them to data brokers (sponsored by DeleteMe btw)

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Or the company pushes the wrong file somewhere and everyone sees everyone else'e data then.

[@RIP212]

Usually these ID verification sites keep the electronic signature and fact of validity, but not the actual picture. Also, the service that uses these ID verification services, just gets confirmation that person has valid ID with such data, but not the actual picture. If we're talking X, Facebook etc, these are big and secure and will be forced into that, smaller platforms will still be free to do whatever IMO.

[@unrealzocker]

@@RIP212 You don't know that and you can't prove that as a user. There are methods though, some idendity cards can sign without disclosing information.

[@NICK....]

i also hope the verification sweatshops work right quick or you'll be stuck waiting for 8 months to make a new account

[@gravtycat9741]

Sites lite facebook already almost entitely force you to hand over your legal name and information, that doesnt stop people from posting the most nonsensical conspiracies imaginable.

[@yukko_parra]

rlly? i just added my email and used my online alias

[@jmn327]

Facebook doesn't even come close to doing that, or it wouldn't be so bot-infested.

[@Noxiefy]

Rare Adam L. That real information verification idea is full of holes. Especially the part about your real name being visible at all times.

[@alexhighgarden6018]

forget doxing now everyone knows exactly who you are. people in unsafe places with dictatorial regimes like me would pay the cost

[@Noxiefy]

There's been recently a huge case of someone abusing KZbin copyright claim system to get real info about a Vtuber. This information WILL be used by bad actors. Anonymity is often only line of defence online that separates bad apples from their potential victims

[@bambina5604]

Conversations would be more civil at least

[@alexhighgarden6018]

@@bambina5604 and you'll find Saudi Arabia executing a 20 thousand a year from social media posts

[@jakobkoeth7739]

Also, anyone misusing that, would also be in true name. You need to be accountable for anything you do online, just like in the real world

[@masterdon3821]

This video support giving even more power to criminal politicians . Without freedom of speech there is no freedom .

[@RsVs2304]

Ok. Change your account name to your full legal name and put your address and full tax records in your channel bio.

[@kaseycaseyiel]

Perhaps the search history and criminal record

[@thetrashpanda.]

If everyone has that it's not really a problem. Someone threatens you? Screenshot with their full name and address and to the police.

[@MikaKahdarmon]

​@@thetrashpanda. What if someone threatens me, because something I post, but they don't do it online but irl?

[@sovietmoose5624]

@@thetrashpanda. And then? Police dont give a shit about harassment and hate speech nor death threats

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

As a Queer woman... Ngl, I'm already terrified of what would happen if in November Trump wins _and I can't help but feel like KZbin or other corpo sites having my legal identity would make it worse._ *I don't want another star of David or red, pink, and black triangles situation **_no offense._* 💀

[@whitefalcon630]

Your data is already out there. It can be used against you. Live your life as it cannot be used against you in a harmful way. Like being normal Not pushing sexual BS for me Queer Woman means nothing it means you are weird, weird can be lovely and even cute but I guess its not that kind of weird.

[@Miki_Naz]

I agree that the problem exists, but you lost me at your proposed solution. Sure, blocking certain function of an account, unless it's tied to some ID/bank/government account on a back end, and limiting how far any post can spread might be a good idea, but being forced to display your name and face is just a bad idea.

[@spaghettisaucer8870]

I would even disagree with the problem he has proposed. I live in the US and have met many trump supporters and none of them are like what he is proposing.

[@randomname3566]

What about giving people tools (knowledge, skills for critical thinking) instead of silencing people you think are in the wrong?

[@poorly_woven_threads]

Limiting post spread would handicap many people's jobs. Artists taking commissions would be shit out of luck if only immediate family/friends could see post and it would limit their ability to meet new artists or do art moots.

[@kusuriurusan6367]

No Adam, I'm not giving my personal credentials to any social media websites. I could never trust them with it.

[@данилакозлов-щ8д]

"this video was brought to you by private data protection service" "To regulate social media your private data should become public" Dude are you fucking nuts ?

[@Dreagostini]

He pointed out that this data is only accessable by your friends and that no corporation is owning the social media service, but the government, who already has all the necessary information or can force you to provide it. Not that I agree necessarily, but it makes sense in a way. Think your thought to the end, before you post.

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

I can get publicly owned, but it DEFINATEY shouldn't be publicly facing. The anti-harrassment ideas break down in the face of "me ne frego" and presumes only bad actors want privacy anyway.

[@soaringstars314]

The fact that he even got sponsored by them is absolutely wild. Something tells me that company doesn't care about protecting peoples data

[@mokka1115]

The service aims at protecting your data from people who wish to abuse it. In Adams proposition, you give away your data to an entity with more reponsibility. Said entity will be unlikely to abuse your data. If they do, that would violate the terms of usage.

[@soaringstars314]

@@mokka1115 or they're trying to make it easier for peoples information to be online so that they can profit off of that

[@rgbforever4561]

Bro was not cooking with this one

[@NICK....]

bro tried to cook and we had to call the fire department

[@ai-spacedestructor]

@@NICK.... building burned down before the fire department arrived.

[@quizitropa4876]

Bro never cooked anything that’s Elon related except easy target new technologies. The amount of messiah complex this guy has and there are still people glazing him all time. Crazy

[@mrN3w7]

He was cooking... with meth...

[@Zinozad]

@@quizitropa4876 Agreed, this guy is just picking the easiest targets for trashtalk, and while it's great to have someone putting down these delusional billionaires ideologies, he really should keep it at that. Anything relating politics on his channel is extremist garbage.

[@comalies]

well i was waiting for a "haha just kidding, can you imagine?" the entire time you were talking about your plan to fix social media and it never came.... wtf

[@nicholaso1315]

Adam missed the bar with this one. Online anonymity is a key necessity to a lot of communities. It empowers LGBTQ+ and other marginalized groups to ask questions and talk without fear of reprisal. It allows undocumented immigrants to research their own rights without exposing themselves etc. I'd also be curious about the implications of everyone showing their full legal name to ensure everyone was confirmed on social media when some of those users are children who should have a right not to be tracked.

[@TheLaLeeee]

Wow this video went off the deep and by the end just as much as uncle Bill does at family gatherings.

[@ai-spacedestructor]

This video may be produced by uncle Bill and uploaded to Adam´s Channel without his consent. At least i would much more prefer if the channel was compromised temporarily then Adam actually going of the deep and and getting more radicalized towards the political right.

[@petersmythe6462]

Banning all public communication and requiring extremely invasive surveillance to talk to immediate friends and family to own the libs.

[@oberonia7264]

bump

[@aguspuig6615]

This video is unironically uncle Bill but from the left. This guy has no self awareness, he will make fun of the ''they are eating the dogs'' thing, as he should, but then he will proceed to sound like Stalin for 10 minutes and think its not unhinged.