How to fly the hull, a Hobie 16 tutorial

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This technique is the same if you're single handed or two up, just balance the weight, sails and steering.
The wind in this video is around 12 knots for the easy bit and then around 6 knots for the advanced section.
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@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 2 жыл бұрын
Did this with my dad as a teen. He died at a young age and I never saw him happier than on that boat. We had an 18. Very emotional about this. Miss you dad. This is when you were happiest.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most important things in sailing is to be having fun (unless you happen to be going somewhere) One of the unique things you can do with a catamaran is fly the hull. As well as it being fun, it's a great exercise in control, regardless of your level, a great way of finding the limits of your boat. And looks great in photos!
@kikayaklife687
@kikayaklife687 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, I've been sailing for one year and a half. I learned by myself with a Hobie Wave that I bought...anyways; I just learned, a couple months ago, how to fly the hull and it was, in mostly everything, thanks to this video. I do it in a Hobie Getaway 2019 and really is the best feeling ever! Greetings and if you ever come to Bacalar, tell me!
@ignooooo128
@ignooooo128 3 жыл бұрын
I am 12. And I sailed a hobie by myself
@phoenixarizona8441
@phoenixarizona8441 3 жыл бұрын
Can you Fly The Hull on a bigger catamaran
@JJ-cf7nb
@JJ-cf7nb 6 жыл бұрын
Best one yet Joseph! I mean who didn't start sailing Hobies to fly hull?! I'm a pilot by trade and to me flying a hull is still the closest thing to soaring like a bird. Just wind a sail and gliding over the water. It doesn't get any better than that. Keep up the great work, maybe someday I'll be able to venture from western Canada to Greece to sail with you and your gang.
@billkarbach944
@billkarbach944 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph: I've been THOROUGHLY enjoying your videos, as I work up the gumption to acquire a Getaway. Thanks for your attention to the quality of your videos. Good stuff. Bill.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
cheers Bill!
@steverogers1976
@steverogers1976 5 жыл бұрын
This one never gets old. Just a thing of beauty to see that knife edge control of balance and power.
@markhuisinga1698
@markhuisinga1698 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and love the way we can see the boat angle relative to the horizon due to the camera mount. Great job. And such a beautiful place to sail.
@peterhammond1278
@peterhammond1278 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, really digging the gimbaled clips. Never really tried hull flying from the leeward side of the 16 but looks fun to try!
@panamajosh76
@panamajosh76 6 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more JK. Joseph, your videos are very inspiring please keep putting out great Hobie 16 content. Im a beginner and ready to learn from you to become a better CAT sailor!
@davearonow65
@davearonow65 5 жыл бұрын
I had a hobie 16 when I was 15 years old. Used to sail off the beach at Indian Rocks beach, Gulf coast, Florida. I could fly the hull on a whim. I could right the boat by myself when capsized. I had no experience sailing. Was clueless on sailing jargon techniques or anything having to do with sailing. Yet, sailing was natural to me like breathing. The reason? I didn't know enough to know what I didn't know I just went out and sailed. I learned by trial and error, but because I didn't care about capsizing, the learning process was QUICK! Same way I learned how to snow ski. I fell down 1000 times My first day on the slopes but I fell down that many times because I didn't care if I fell as I was determined to learn to ski. I was skiing blue and milder blacks by the end of my first day. The point is, my advice to anyone wanting to learn, just go out and do it. The wind will tell you what do do. If you capsize, you capsize. That's part of the fun. That's how you learn. You can spend a thousand hours watching these videos asking a million questions, or you can go spend a day on the water. Once again, don't be afraid to dunk it. You will quickly learn your limits and what the boat will and won't do.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
I did the same. I just want to help people who don't have the time or energy to go through the same process.
@steverogers1976
@steverogers1976 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you didn't have a Joe Bennet available back in the day. As for me, I'll take every bit of wisdom and help that's available.
@reneprovosty7032
@reneprovosty7032 2 жыл бұрын
dude same , growing up sailing is the shit.
@kerrycraig2865
@kerrycraig2865 6 жыл бұрын
Recently purchased a 1979 Hobie 18' and, after much refitting, have now had it out two times. What love! And I must say, your videos are the most informative, clear, and practical I've come across yet as I learn the tricks and traps of the wind. Thanks much! I'll be watching for sure! Will be in Kardamyli in September and now regretting not scheduling enough time to zip up to Vasiliki. Next year! Again, keep up the great work; you're inspiring!
@djpatraw
@djpatraw 5 жыл бұрын
I had a Hobie 18 in the 80's, then got a supercat 20 tall rig. Had a 12' beam and a 38' mast with 100 square feet more than the Hobie. Loved small craft advisories sailing. A need for speed. Lol
@mragjr
@mragjr 4 жыл бұрын
When flying a hull, make certain you stay back! Sitting too far forward, the leeward hull will bury the bow and the boat will capsize immediately ending a perfect sail. And flying a hull actually slows a boat. As the windward hull rises, the boat almost goes into slow motion. Only thing better-flying wearing a butt bucket and out over the edge, pure joy. The reason to buy a Hobie.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
I'll drink to that!
@MrRagaje
@MrRagaje 4 жыл бұрын
Great instruction! Simple, not too much BS to get confused. Thank you!.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i'm glad the format works for you.
@Splassshhh1234
@Splassshhh1234 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 16 ft. Hobie long ago.......thanks for the video.....good memories of my own hull flying in San Diego....
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
you can't beat a bit of hull flying!
@HugoToledo
@HugoToledo 5 жыл бұрын
+1 Been too many years since I last did this. Look forward to teaching my son next summer.
@stevemiller1203
@stevemiller1203 5 жыл бұрын
Born and raised in San Diego, had a Hobie 14, then a 16, lived in N. Mission Beach. Good memories also!
@flacoariel2
@flacoariel2 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent sailing congratulations!
@yessure5291
@yessure5291 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a lot of fun
@michaelfriend6096
@michaelfriend6096 4 жыл бұрын
That light wind trick is so clever! Can't wait to try it out
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely good fun
@Artberg100
@Artberg100 5 жыл бұрын
Well dun ! Looks very good.
@Constantly.Learning
@Constantly.Learning 9 ай бұрын
We spent a lot of time sailing on our Hobie Cat back in the day. It was so fun and effortless.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 9 ай бұрын
It's still just as good as it ever was!
@andriystukalyuk1268
@andriystukalyuk1268 Ай бұрын
Tanks for filming so nice content
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV Ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@gstewartjr
@gstewartjr 2 жыл бұрын
Just did this today on Hobie-16 with some success. Best day out so far. One epiphany was the in and out tension on the sheet instead of just out. Before this it was all higher higher until panic set in and let out main and/or corkscrewed into the wind. A close up video of the main sheet rope movement side by side while flying would be cool. I still worry that as I tension sheet, it might get cleated, and eliminate one of my safety exits. I thought flying the hull would be life changing, and it is! Thanks for the great work you put into these vids.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Practicing flying the hull is such a great way to learn to control your cat. I would also practice nucleating the mainsheet - spend time doing it every time so that when it matters you can do it easily.
@tamimzughaid7506
@tamimzughaid7506 5 жыл бұрын
I am very excited to try it thank you for this lesson and I hope you will make a special video in the races of the catamaran
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
yes, will do!
@maccliff2115
@maccliff2115 Жыл бұрын
For me, that is extreme sailing. That is very adventurous! Tip of the hat to you.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Great fun.
@greetingsfromcharlantis1194
@greetingsfromcharlantis1194 3 жыл бұрын
i just bought one today!! so excited to do this!!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, you're gonna love it!
@dabneyoffermein595
@dabneyoffermein595 10 ай бұрын
These videos are the greatest... Got here via Sam Holmes sailing videos. Subscribed!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 10 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@thetalkingfly
@thetalkingfly 4 жыл бұрын
yo joe- some peaceful zen sailing dog! love it man! Steve aka The Talking Fly
@elliotdemetrius4957
@elliotdemetrius4957 2 жыл бұрын
Instablaster...
@johncamera5747
@johncamera5747 3 жыл бұрын
I miss our Hobie Cat.I was an adolescent when our family enjoyed it.Wish I can try it again as an older adult.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
There are places where you can try - www.wildwind.co.uk ?
@squarefour1
@squarefour1 5 жыл бұрын
Miss those days on a 16. We waited for the storm fronts to come When they did everyone scattered to get a boat in the water and haul ass. Hanging on to the rudder with your toes Great memories and fun. Those hobies and prindals aren’t as popular as they were in the 90s. Don’t know why
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
Too much choice now I think
@NickyDIY101
@NickyDIY101 4 жыл бұрын
very useful video !
@ChuckD59
@ChuckD59 4 жыл бұрын
What I needed right about now. Several decades ago I was in a place and time where I had a chance to put a couple hundred hours on a 16 doing this. One of the highlights of my life, great to see you execute so well. So what about the nose-dive/cartwheel trick (with added slicing and dicing of the bod on the guy wires)? Did some of that too! Thanks for the memories!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. Yes, the nosedive is still a popular move!
@franklin3271
@franklin3271 4 жыл бұрын
Been trying with two people has been a challenge. Arizona rivers is a challenge. Headed to San Diego this weekend so perhaps a steadier wind. Liked and subscribed. Good video and thanks for sharing.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, have a great weekend, I hope that the wind is good!
@MrJuuustin28532
@MrJuuustin28532 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@jt6159
@jt6159 3 жыл бұрын
great video! Looks like a lot of fun. Just donated my O'Day 28' and I'm thinking about getting a Hobie 16!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, great choice, the 16 will keep you entertained!
@arifabdullah7142
@arifabdullah7142 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!!!! 😁
@NewoneFPV
@NewoneFPV 5 жыл бұрын
I love it
@wabbagaming2184
@wabbagaming2184 3 жыл бұрын
i was trying to explain flying to my wife the other day. Now i can just show her this. Btw havent been on a hoby cat since i was like 15, great memories
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@doutrinadorroxx5792
@doutrinadorroxx5792 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@igordealmeida4428
@igordealmeida4428 6 жыл бұрын
Sensacional!
@normandegeorge6526
@normandegeorge6526 5 жыл бұрын
Loved flying the hull on my hobie 16. I lost my boat in a hurricane and haven’t been able to find another around here.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
That's terrible news. I hope that you're able to find a suitable replacement
@MrFurriephillips
@MrFurriephillips 5 жыл бұрын
When I was a young teenager, the guy down the beach from us, took me out on his Hobie Cat, when it was blowing force 6-7 - we got to make full use of the trapeze & it was some of the most exhilarating sailing I’ve ever done. I was an avid windsurfer & regularly sailed in Christchurch harbour when we had gale-force winds. imgur.com/gallery/TOy9m
@Adventuregirl96
@Adventuregirl96 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up on the beach and learned how to sail on a Hobie 16. Now that I am out on my own I need to get my own Hobie.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. It's a great idea!
@James-zz3kz
@James-zz3kz 4 жыл бұрын
10/10.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kikayaklife687
@kikayaklife687 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@aqnp
@aqnp 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@oliverhunt770
@oliverhunt770 4 жыл бұрын
No way I was legit there than a week ago and the wind was insane at 25 knots. Loads of windsurfers flying along the water
@joseguerrero1306
@joseguerrero1306 8 ай бұрын
Awesome, you make me wanna buy one of this hobbicats now instead buying a new kayak
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 8 ай бұрын
You can certainly fly the hull higher on a cat!
@SkunkWorksRifle
@SkunkWorksRifle Жыл бұрын
Lived on a small lake, not the best for catamaran, I was able to fly the hull though.... sailing is a blast 😉👍I had a 16 ft Hobie cat 😎👍🇺🇸
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV Жыл бұрын
As long as you can get the hull up then you're winning!
@SkunkWorksRifle
@SkunkWorksRifle Жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV 😎👍🇺🇸 I flew from both sides on a day a storm was gathering and was passing big sailboats like they were sitting still 😂 winning for sure 😀
@stevenvachon9745
@stevenvachon9745 6 жыл бұрын
"This is what it's all about" you often say, agreed! Do you have any advice when you feel yourself going past the point of no return? Last time I that happened I turned into the wind (maybe a bit hard) in conjunction with letting as much main sheet out as I could which kept me from going over but stalled me on the spot. Would turning downwind do any better? (Assuming you are on a broad reach) I'm thinking gravity of turning sharp would bring you down.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
If you're on a close reach or upwind then turning into the wind will bring the hull down. On the broad reach turning down wind will do it. It depends on what you want to achieve, here where i'm just out to fly the hull i'm using the mainsheet more and steering less.
@theolopez3299
@theolopez3299 5 жыл бұрын
when you are upwind and sheeted fully in if you don't want to turn up too much let out both of your sails, not just one until they luff then trim slightly. If this does not work, you do not need to turn all the way onto the wind, just head up a little.
@Bockett
@Bockett 4 жыл бұрын
Hi joe. Love the self-levelling camera mount. How do you do this??? I’d love to know so I can do it on mine.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
I was using a Feiyu Tech WG gimbal (not waterproof) Works very well for this
@Zafirdot
@Zafirdot 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, great videos, I just started on your channel and binge watching to soak up knowledge. As a beginner sailor, can you explain the steering element of this? I understand the sheets - you let the main out, you reduce power. How does steering impact heeling? Turning into the wind should reduce power in a close reach, but in my (very limited) experience, it can suddenly increase heeling and result in a capsize. Thanks a lot!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've made a video on steering for power control: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5W4fZaZo86ZaNU
@Whodidwhat9821
@Whodidwhat9821 2 ай бұрын
How did you mount the GoPro to the bridle? Makes for an awesome video!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 ай бұрын
I'll demonstrate the mount in today's Q+A (1830 greek time)
@JamesDonatelli
@JamesDonatelli 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, what is the reason the jibs on Wildwind boats has been changed from the OEM Hobie colored jib to a white jib? Do you order the boats this way or has the jib been replaced?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
This is a spare jib that we have to use while the original is being repaired. The Jibs get tired much quicker than the mains so we often replace the jibs separately.
@damianojeda7017
@damianojeda7017 4 жыл бұрын
One day!
@andrewbarber1020
@andrewbarber1020 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joseph, enjoying the videos, if when your flying and you think your going to capsize, do you steer into wind as a quick way of recovery or just release the mainsail
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
If you're sailing upwind or on a tight reach and the steering to control the power doesn't need to be so much that you loose speed then steering is good. If it's a bigger gust a combination of steering and sheeting out is preferable.
@zacharydickerson1255
@zacharydickerson1255 2 жыл бұрын
Great. Now I have to sail
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
🤩
@twr41cox
@twr41cox 3 жыл бұрын
Skills!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pirpo67
@pirpo67 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was wondering if you know and what do you think of the Minicat 420 evoque to start using a catamaran?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
I have looked at some pictures, It looks like a good way of getting out on the water and you would certainly gain some cat sailing skills on there.
@MrFurriephillips
@MrFurriephillips 5 жыл бұрын
On holiday in 1984, I watched with mixed feelings, as a squall ran across the bay in Penang & as it reached each of the rental Hobie Cats, one by one, they capsized, sending the rental dudes into frantic action, in their support boat. I was mainly upset that my parents hadn’t let me hire one, as I actually knew I would have enjoyed an exciting sail.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that would have been pretty full on!
@daleyoung87
@daleyoung87 2 жыл бұрын
To ease a potential capsize, is it better to turn into, or off of the wind?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Generally into the wind.
@DialedN_07
@DialedN_07 5 жыл бұрын
I bet you're good at doing wheelies on a motorbike or bicycle as well! (If so, would you compare the two as a similar "feel" for the tipping point?)
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
completely different! I actually started learning to wheelie on my bike recently and i'm still a way off having it nailed. The flying a hull is easiest learnt in the lighter winds to get the feel for it.
@PIMSNOUNE
@PIMSNOUNE 4 жыл бұрын
Bonjour Joe, we all love your cat's video !!!!! Petite question technique, avec la Gopro comment fais-tu pour garder la ligne d'horizon droite et avoir le Hobie penché ?????? J'utilise le même système que toi pour attacher la caméra à l'avant et c'est le bateau qui reste droit et non pas l'horizon !!! HELP Please !!!!! And go on !!!!Bolcks to blocks (poulies dans poulies en français !!!!)
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
On this video I used a stabilising gimbal to keep the horizon level. It worked really well.
@PIMSNOUNE
@PIMSNOUNE 4 жыл бұрын
@ Joseph, thanks for your quick answer !!!! Any model to advise me ???? Other question : with Gopro do you use 4K format or an other one ??? In a few days i'll send you movie from France near Bordeaux for The Great and Sympathic Show : "Show us your Cattttt " !!!!!!!
@antsbradley
@antsbradley 6 жыл бұрын
Please can you show some details of the gimbal you have on the front camera, it appears to be damped?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
I'll get onto it, I'm very pleased with the results.
@jds0912
@jds0912 6 жыл бұрын
Soo good
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Dude .. was so close to flying a hull today .. we took my friends 16 out for a shakedown and the port side stay ripped out of its screw (rusted) 😣. Fortunately where were still in the harbor and got a tow back to the launch.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
good luck with the repair, I hope you can get back out there soon.
@janemodes360
@janemodes360 4 жыл бұрын
How do you mount the camera on the forestry? Is it on a gimble?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Yes for that one i used a Feiyu tech WG gimbal attached to an extra piece of chainplate bolted on.
@seasidepeck
@seasidepeck 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joseph sure enjoy your videos! We have a go pro mounted on front crossbar of our Wave T2 but I'd like to find a way to keep it level when we fly. Is that what a gimbal mount does? Which one do you use? Thanks much
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I use a Feiyu Tech WG gimbal, the one that I have isn't waterproof but they have since brought out a waterproof one. It works really well keeping the horizon level when flying the hull.
@seasidepeck
@seasidepeck 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So much! Can I just use the same handlebar mount I use for the session?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
yes, it uses the same connectors.
@seasidepeck
@seasidepeck 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@boricuabro
@boricuabro 5 жыл бұрын
Does your front camera have some kind of stabilizer or pivoting system? It's pretty steady with the horizon... wow that's really a great thing. What is it that you're using exactly? Thanks Joe. Needless to say it again... You're just the best!!!
@boricuabro
@boricuabro 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4C3mXloraiBhrM
@boricuabro
@boricuabro 5 жыл бұрын
Myself with my instructor...I'm the elder guy...lol!!!
@JABTV2008
@JABTV2008 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, a great vid! We do a lot of hull flying here just for the fun of it and the sudden quietness when the hull is up is fascinating. What sort of gimbal setup do you have? I'm looking for one too, but of course it has to be waterproof. Thanks for an idea. cheers.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
This is using the Feiyu tech WG my one isn't waterproof but they do a waterproof one now. I've had it for a few years now and it's still working well. The one drawback is that the mic on the camera picks up the sound of the motors.
@JABTV2008
@JABTV2008 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV Thanks Joe. I built a sort of pendulum job which works pretty good, but I was thinking about an active system. Might look into it.
@mcake1234
@mcake1234 2 жыл бұрын
You need a foredhand to work the jib, and you both need to be out on traps. Doing that is awesome!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes!
@danielecorlazzoli2003
@danielecorlazzoli2003 6 жыл бұрын
maybe a silly question Joe... but what is wrong when you sheet in the main and the hull doesn't fly up? I can only do it close to 10 Kn of wind but then I don't feel very relaxed with waves and speed... from the video it seems to me you can do it also in light winds...
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
To encourage the hull to fly in lighter winds - make sure that the boat is on a close reach (between upwind and half wind) don't over-sheet the sails - by getting more speed you generate more apparent wind. If it's still not lifting move your weight inboard and if necessary, to the leeward side.
@danielecorlazzoli2003
@danielecorlazzoli2003 6 жыл бұрын
this afternoon :)
@danielecorlazzoli2003
@danielecorlazzoli2003 6 жыл бұрын
how many Kn of wind in the first part of the video ? just to have an idea ...
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
in the windier section probably around 14 knots
@originalfallinggirl
@originalfallinggirl 3 жыл бұрын
Will a 14 pitch pole if I fly a hull? Sorry for all the questions but I’m so amped to get out on the water this week.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Only if your weight is too far forward. Or if you try to hold too much power. I will answer this in more detail in the Q+A on Wednesday.
@originalfallinggirl
@originalfallinggirl 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV you RULE!
@youtubermc7904
@youtubermc7904 5 жыл бұрын
Joe, all of your videos seem like you're always on the same side of the boat usually. Is that due to you sailing out of the same port?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
quite possibly - if you watch the second half they'll mostly be on the other side!
@christopherdhc7608
@christopherdhc7608 5 жыл бұрын
Hello I like your channel, I also sail in a HobieCat 16, also in other boats! etc... Where do you sail? Almost always there is good wind by what I see in the videos! . Maybe I can come and see you! A hug and waiting for more videos
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Christopher, I sail in Vassiliki on the Greek island of Lefkada. When there are no clouds it is generally between 15 and 25 knots in the afternoons - a great place for Cat Sailing - you can check out our place here: www.wildwind.co.uk Maybe we'll see you soon!
@dropthatfone
@dropthatfone 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV What is the best time of the year for good wind in Lefkada?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
@@dropthatfone From mid June to mid September (July and August defo most consistent)
@alaalzayer2886
@alaalzayer2886 4 жыл бұрын
What point of sail is best/easier to fly the hull?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
A close reach/ close hauled course is best for control
@user5871
@user5871 3 жыл бұрын
Where's this? Looks beautiful!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
This is Vassiliki, Lefkas, Greece at Wildwind.co.uk
@phoenixarizona8441
@phoenixarizona8441 3 жыл бұрын
Would you attempt to cross the ocean with a Hobie Cat 14 / 16 if you have a life raft enough food and a tent for sleeping And shelter on the beach
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think I would. 16 though not a 14 - I think that the extra space and volume would be needed!
@phoenixarizona8441
@phoenixarizona8441 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV may have to try it what size is your Hobie Cat
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
This was a Hobie 16
@TheKetamineSquid
@TheKetamineSquid 4 жыл бұрын
have you done a trapeze video, and if not, could you do one?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
How to trapeze kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGPYZGehpLllb8U
@tomtervoert155
@tomtervoert155 5 жыл бұрын
Is this a Lago di Caldonazzo?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
It's Vassiliki on the Greek island of Lefkada
@jchoneandonly
@jchoneandonly 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a point to flying the hull in light wind aside from looking cool?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
looking cool, practicing control, other than that, not really.
@jchoneandonly
@jchoneandonly 6 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV does flying the hull in general make you go faster?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
having the windward hull just clear of the water is the fastest way to sail, the extreme angles look good but are very inefficient.
@tommythompsonsurfer
@tommythompsonsurfer 5 жыл бұрын
ASAMETERICALLY HULLS ARE FLAT ON THE OUTSIDE...FLYING THE OUTSIDE HULL IS FAST......MUCH LIKE SURFING...HOBIE 16 ARE A EXCELLENT WAY TO POWER SAIL.....FLIPPING IS NORMAL IN STRONG WIND BUT EASILY RE FLIPPED.....IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCED!!
@AnonMedic
@AnonMedic 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta get a harness so you can stand on the side of the hull and go faster without flipping it. And get a jib man for more counterweight and faster control and turns.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! However, flying the hull solo is great for practicing control and feels great!
@randyneuman696
@randyneuman696 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, I assume you are doing this with the sheet uncleated?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
yes, every time i sheet in, if it goes in the cleat I like to take it out immediately
@randyneuman696
@randyneuman696 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV Thanks for the reply. Love your videos!
@mheermance
@mheermance 5 жыл бұрын
You were sailing so fast you could have used the other sailboats as race marks!
@robertcain3426
@robertcain3426 2 жыл бұрын
Joe. Apart from the thrill of the height, why fly a hull? At such an angle - 20° to 30° - the sail must be spilling a lot of air and losing power.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's generally very inefficient, spilling wind, hull slipping sideways - you can actually fly the hull nearly to a complete stop. The purpose of this is mostly as a control exercise but problably more because it's fun and it looks cool!
@USA4thewin
@USA4thewin 5 жыл бұрын
ya I can only get the hull up for a few seconds then get too nervous and bring the boat back down
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
Working more mainsheet should give you more confidence and really let you know where you are in regards to power. The mainsheet is the key.
@Artberg100
@Artberg100 5 жыл бұрын
....easy to balance ...just care for gusts before they come to the sail.
@plaksie
@plaksie 5 жыл бұрын
A good exercice to learn "kissing the waves" is to sail without the cleats
@kikayaklife687
@kikayaklife687 4 жыл бұрын
I think that you should not bring it down, take it to its limit and capzise if possible. You will earn a lot of confidence and I'm pretty sure, after that, the boat will just capzise whenerver you want it to. :)
@japl8823
@japl8823 4 жыл бұрын
What model this boat is this?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Hobie 16
@japl8823
@japl8823 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV thx
@robertscruggs8498
@robertscruggs8498 Жыл бұрын
Had a hobie 16 back in the day, sail # 18937
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV Жыл бұрын
Wow, that must have been very cool back then to be sailing a 16.
@mikesartin
@mikesartin 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure you are in good enough shape to fly the hull without wrecking your back or neck. (It was fun! Only 40 years of intermittent pain.)
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry to hear that. This is very important advise (which i never mention) cat sailing is probably not ideal for your back at the best of times.
@JasonEllison
@JasonEllison 4 жыл бұрын
where are you sailing?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Wildwind, Vassiliki,. Lefkas, Greece
@p.louislefevre8049
@p.louislefevre8049 4 жыл бұрын
Which city ?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
Vassiliki on the Greek island of Lefkada
@joshthomas6361
@joshthomas6361 3 жыл бұрын
is this vas, greece
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, pretty empty at the moment.
@JakeBullit123
@JakeBullit123 6 жыл бұрын
Vass?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 жыл бұрын
Well spotted!
@JakeBullit123
@JakeBullit123 6 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV I was probably stood right next to your hobie last week. Was showing my daughter as she's just learning to sail in UK
@markcampbell7577
@markcampbell7577 2 жыл бұрын
Deeply blade keel the mast not the boom.. then sail 90 degrees to the wind . A down hill reach high sixties and see the speed. No more than an inches from the water.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, of course. The point of this video is to fly the hull for fun, not for speed. Thanks for the tips!
@npegg
@npegg 6 жыл бұрын
facility
@jjdd9852
@jjdd9852 5 жыл бұрын
Gives us info on the type of Catamaran sale boat you are using Brand ??? Type ???? Length ??? And so Please Thankssssss
@GWebVideos
@GWebVideos 5 жыл бұрын
Mate, it’s in the title. The boat is a Hobie 16.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
Hobie Cat 16 16 feet cheers!
@markcampbell7577
@markcampbell7577 2 жыл бұрын
Blade keel the mast for greater speed.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
That would be the ideal situation. Here we're just looking at controlling the hull flying, not so worried about speed.
@reneprovosty7032
@reneprovosty7032 2 жыл бұрын
ze great southern ocean
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
one day...
@markmartin6436
@markmartin6436 2 жыл бұрын
where are you?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
wildwind.co.uk vassiliki lefkas, greece
@artyomsyomushkin1104
@artyomsyomushkin1104 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that flying the hull will reduce the drag and thus the cat will go faster. Why it‘s not the case?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 2 жыл бұрын
When you go higher than 'just out' you start sliding sideways and the rig looses efficiency
@gregmatthies8128
@gregmatthies8128 8 ай бұрын
How come your not on trapeze? That is wimping out big time mate. How about 2 on the wire and so far up you can see over the top of the mast and the beach over the top. Gets the heart pumping.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 8 ай бұрын
Next time, i'll be brave and get out onto the trapeze!
@gregmatthies8128
@gregmatthies8128 8 ай бұрын
@@JoyriderTV I look fwd to seeing that. The 16 hobie tend to nose dive a bit but always fun.
@jwa69265
@jwa69265 5 жыл бұрын
Its great but you need to fly it much higher and with both on the wire. Go harder bad boy
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 жыл бұрын
It was just an control thing. I didn't even have a harness, or a crew! Thanks for the beers!
@Nils_Hammarsten
@Nils_Hammarsten 3 жыл бұрын
Dont use a cleat on the main sheet. Thats disatorus. Use the traveler 2:1
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 3 жыл бұрын
I use the cleat on the mainsheet quite a lot but I'm constantly training on nucleating to make sure that I can get it out.
@tanajmanos8312
@tanajmanos8312 Жыл бұрын
I have a one hull record of 1minute 8seconds
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! That's a great flight! Such a nice feeling.
@TommasoMinuto
@TommasoMinuto 4 жыл бұрын
can't really watch him jive looking at the rear every time, that's like the first thing i was taught NOT to do, it looks mental.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 4 жыл бұрын
It's a necessary evil of cat sailing - just for a second facing the back.
@TommasoMinuto
@TommasoMinuto 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoyriderTV oh there you go, didn't know that. Watching your videos I saw you were skilled so I was a bit disappointed seeing that, but now it makes more sense.
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