How To Frame A Hip Roof Part 2 - Answering 2 Important Questions

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[@charliek9742]

What an amazing teacher you are. I'm a retired engineer, so I understand all the math, but the way in which you explain it, makes it so much easier to understand. Great job and keep up the good work!

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Wow, thank you Charlie!

[@raysantana7212]

That was awesome. Thank you I am building my own house and your videos for the hip roof explanation is right on. Thank you and God bless you for your teachings . I wish you and your loved ones the best life has to offer us .

[@joeoverman3793]

Great teaching and explaining in a way most people can understand! God bless.

[@mikealphalima70]

Bonjour, I am from Montreal, Canada. I am undergoing training as a carpenter, and we have reached the point of constructing a roof exactly like the one you are showing us. Your explanations are very clear and have been very helpful. I have subscribed to your channel and will follow you in the future.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Thanks for the follow Mike! I'm so glad you are in school for this. If you need anything please reach back out.

[@toolsiesampat2737]

Perfect explanation bro I tried adding the seve n sixteenth on my jack rafters and it came out perfect thanks man

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

So glad to hear that! Thanks for the comment bro!

[@gregorsamsa1364]

Another way to get to get the jack rafter measurements, especially on a small roof, is to actually just measure 16"(or 19.5 or 24 or whatever) square over from common rafter to the where the hip rafter intersects ti mark where the jack rafters long point will sit. Then measure from there to where it will sit at the outer edge of the top plate.

[@jerryrisner-k1y]

The run on the hip rafter always stays the same then. Awesome!! Your video was very helpful!!

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Glad it helped!

[@larrys8086]

thank you very much for the videos. They are very well explained. The only thing I've wondered about is how all the rafters are fastened at the point where the ridge board, king rafter, common rafter and hip rafter all meet.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

They would be all attached with framing nails... normally from a framing gun.

[@janicesmyth2183]

I know enough now to build a house! Just kidding. I wished I had this knowledge years ago so I could build my dream house. My grandkids will make the most from it. Thank you for making and sharing this video!

[@polopolomay1]

Greatly informative video! Can you do a hip roof that requires a structural ridge? I'm curious how you calculate the details for the loads to that will be carried.

[@r.mercado9737]

This was another great vid!

[@JC-jo6xq]

You are a great teacher. I have learned a lot from your videos. Question, does the 7/16” works with 4x hip material or is does it only apply for 2x material?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Yes, only 2x material. My working knowledge is weak when it comes to all those specifics of different material thicknesses

[@leroyrowe2991]

Fantastic teachings. Really appreciate it.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Thanks for the comment. :)

[@rodrigoaparecidodesouza3228]

Excelente vídeo me ajudou muito a compreender alguns mistérios em telhados, sou do Interior de são Paulo aqui no Brasil, profissionalmente sou bombeiro municipal, mas nas horas de folga tenho meus hobbies, um deles é construir telhado, aqui no Brasil usamos os ângulos para fazer cálculos, eu gostei muito desse método de proporção para saber a inclinação, muito obrigado por compartilhar conosco seus conhecimentos e no meu caso agradeço também por disponibilizar a legenda em português, Deus abençoe muito você, seu trabalho, sua família. Forte abraço aqui do Brasil para todos os inscritos desse canal!

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Muito obrigado pelo comentário e pela bênção! Estou tão feliz que este vídeo tenha ajudado você, e eu oro uma bênção sobre você e sua família. O Senhor é bom. A paz esteja convosco!

[@ThePaulLeary]

16.97 = 12 x √2 The runs of the common, king and hip rafters 45-45-90 triangle, therefore hip run = common/king run multiplied by √2 (or ~1.41). From that you can calculate the hip run for any roof pitch.

[@RH-vm1pm]

Great video after video. Complicated things but well explained.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Very hard to explain... I hope you picked something up ;)

[@briangordon1767]

If you marked the 45 degree line on top edge of the comman rafter then at the midway point squared a line across the top edge of said rafter and measured from that line up to the long point would that work out at seven sixteenths or am I barking up the wrong tree. great videos btw thank you

[@rickyreynolds9056]

I have a question that I don’t think you covered. I am cutting hip rafters for my outside cooking are roof. The building is going to have a small box and 2’x2’ small dog house type coming out of the top of my hip roof ( to let smoke out) my rafters come to the point of my box and i am struggling to get the angle and length right on my corner rafters. Thanks in advance

[@kamalgarad4745]

WOW; I couldn’t thank you enough ; it will not be more easier than this

[@thesouloflife7022]

I wish I would have became a carpenter when I was younger. I love updated or making things better on my house.

[@tellis9844]

Great video, thanks for sharing. Please note you have to add the 7/16 back on because you deducted half the ridge from your common rafter at the start of the process

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Thank you for sharing.

[@johnlasseigne7676]

Can you just add 3/4" to the run and get the theoretical long of the jack as if the hip ran long through the ridge? I think you could just subject the difference in Jack's from this number to get the first long, but im not sure.

[@GSchrades]

I know this is an old video now but what if I have a double hip such as double LVL hips measuring 3-1/2" total, do I need to subtract anything or am i still going to half with the angle measuring to add to my construction calculator?

[@Blue60]

Great video your showing, keep them coming, you make them easy to understand cheers

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Thanks 👍

[@pmmhrw188887]

If you have your hip rafter cut at a single bevel 45 (porch roof coming off the wall) it will lay flat on the ledger. Do you have to take into consideration the 7/16’s with a single bevel and not double?

[@breadbuttertinyhomesllc797]

Rather than 7/16 (for 16-in on center framing), do you know how much you would add to the jack rafters if you're framing 24 inches on center and you want them to land on center?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

If you are using the calculator in this video it would be the same for 24" OC layout... add 7/16"

[@pdcro1247]

Don’t you have to deduct half the diagonal width of the hip from the jack just like you have to deduct half the ridge from the common rafter?

[@675daily]

Am interested to learn more please am from Papua New Guinea it's great learning from you

[@PhilipKikiuPipai]

I dmire your short but practically detailed lectures to handy diy in remote 3řdWorld

[@Ishmaell711]

What happens if say your stock material is 5 1/2”thick and not 1 1/2” thick, wood the 7/16” be a different size ???? Would there be a rule of thumb for different size material? Thanks 🙏

[@elou795]

Does the 17” still apply if my pitch is 8 12?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Yes, all valley and hip rafters have a 17" unit run

[@symonflores7081]

How do you get the 17” number in the calculator what’s the formula?

[@jerryrisner-k1y]

On the hip rafter, Does the 17” run change if the pitch is 4/12?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

no

[@araratoutdoors]

Good info. Nice job!

[@garvielloken3929]

Awesome!

[@onlyrte7304]

Super helpful! Thank you much.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

You're welcome!

[@JuanDiaz-y7q]

amazing teacher thank you

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Thank you! 😃

[@oscarluevano5344]

Really appreciate your videos

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Glad you like them!

[@ethanhuh9375]

How would you calculate common and hip rafters if you have double ridge beam. Your video show single ridge but what if you have double.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Basically, your run simply shortens which changes the numbers you put into the calculator.

[@samuelhurtado6384]

Great help all those videos 👍

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Glad you like them!

[@speedbuggy7240]

So, what happens when you have a different size common rafter on either side of your hip rafter?? I'm redoing a really old porch roof. Built in the late 1800's. The original hip rafter is 2 1/2" wide. I have to replace it. The roof is 40' by 8' with the end common rafter having about 4' run with the front rafter having a run of close to 8'. I'm gonna replace the hip rafter with 2- 2x10's which is 1/2" wider than the original. Hmmm.... A 2 piece hip rafter replacing a 1 piece hip rafter.....

[@dannyflanery7466]

What if you rafters are 24" oc and not 16" oc when using the calculator . When determining jack rafter lengths

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

you can adjust that within the calculator

[@davidswanson8493]

Helpful ,Thank you!

[@daynmarshall7262]

Thankyou such a good channel

[@joelethalcruz4417]

So that 7/16 changes in each roof pitch..like 8/12 9/12 5/12 would be different.?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

No it's the same no matter the pitch.

[@joelethalcruz4417]

@@TrainingHandsAcademy ok..thnks another question i have a roof book and the talk about shortened the jack rafters and hips..on a Valley roof and hip roof...what is that.?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

@@joelethalcruz4417 This is similar to the 7/16" adjustments we have to do on the Jacks. There are many different ways to calculate a roof, and shortening has to happen with a few of those ways in order to make everything "plane" out so that the plywood lays flat. You have to remember that most measurements/calculations are taken from the centerline of the framing material, but we of course can't frame that way, so we have to shorten/lengthen framing members in order to assemble a roof, again so everything is flat for the plywood to lay on. It's a very deep topic but I hope this helps some.

[@patroberts4708]

How do I mark the jacks location on the hip or valley ?

[@johnlasseigne7676]

Hip length divided by run x the on center spacing. But you the to take into count the centerline and width of hip. You can also step it off, but it is a different rise and run. If your interested let me know.

[@oscarluevano5344]

Chido compadre

[@jack460able]

Clear as day when you know how to use the calculator you save lots of time and can cut everything at once on the ground safely

[@selvinespinal4164]

muchas Gracias por sus videos Boy A ser un seguidor muy constante porque si quiero un poco de sabiduría que Dios le da a ud para compartir de su don que le a regalado y si estoy aprendiendo mucho con sus videos Dios le siga bendiciendo mucho para enseñar a otros puedo escuchar Inglés pero no puedo escribirlo y pido disculpas Gracias

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

¡Eres muy amable! Gracias por las bendiciones y por su audiencia. ¡Que dios te bendiga!

[@Mary-o8l3n]

Could you make a video on how to build a grambel roof

[@single_cam9199]

Ohhhh ! Got it

[@carpentrynewfrontiers8072]

Shouldn't the 7/16" be added to the jack's run, not the jack's length? If you draw the projection of the runs on the ground and you draw the connection between the jack rafter and the hip, we can clearly see that the run has to be elongated by 7/16" to reach the long end of the jack.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

I send you an email.

[@americanwoman6246]

What about rafter ties?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

If codes require them, yes.

[@baddaalex5167]

Thanks alot brother

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

You’re most welcome! You building something?

[@juanrojas7505]

great channel 👍👍👍

[@weldonpinder7295]

I just layer out the 4 walls for a shed and one of them are a half inch longer than the others so then a calculator won't be 100% accurate. So what to do?

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Cut them a little longer and fit them as needed.

[@isaacsieberts9567]

thankyou

[@denisangot4796]

You lost me with imperial measurements , but I understand the way to calculate . In France we just use metric , nobody is perfect 😁

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Haha! In most of my recent videos I always try to do the conversions but these last two videos had too many change over. :)

[@AdedayoOdebiyi]

🎉

[@motox947]

After watching this my new shed is getting a hip roof.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Nice!!

[@rawlsawh2804]

Mathematically 17 is used because the root of 2 times 12 is 16.97 ~ 17

[@absolutelyloveangels]

My goodness 😅 how many fractions! Find it much easier with straightforward mm😅 I guess I'm just use to the metric system

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

I hear you. I always try to make my videos in both systems but this one just had too many numbers to convert. Thanks for watching.

[@absolutelyloveangels]

@@TrainingHandsAcademy no that's fine. You guys are use to those measures and we're just use to the IS🤷🏻‍♀️. The video is great.

[@nickpersaud7065]

So instead of a double bevel hip cut n you use a single bevel hip cut, would the layout be the same

[@jerryriggan]

Framed hundreds of houses and never needed a calculator, You can step the commons off with the square .Measure the hip rafters and the jack rafters. No mistakes.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

Yes, I really like that method as well Jerry. :)

[@notahotshot]

@Jerry Riggan Cool story, bro.

[@rubenvarela4077]

I will try it

[@stevekoceja4298]

I’ve framed a bunch also. Can step it off, use the blue book or scale it. Great in any situation. I do use the calculator just like the video. You make a great point. You can’t beat a field measurement. Have never framed a house perfectly square with equal measurements everywhere. Framed a small 12x12 structure yesterday and used the calculator for the hip roof. Came out great but even on that had to trim or add here and there. What if batteries go dead ay?

[@corneilcorneil]

Imperial measurements... some people make it themself real difficult

[@toddavis8603]

Hip hip----hurrah!"

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

LOL

[@DNL82]

🤔🤔🤔

[@AMLO-4TA.TRANSFORMACION]

DUDE, YOU SHOULD BE IN A CLASSROOM.🤓

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

I want to be... waiting for the right opportunity.

[@sandasturner9529]

A²+B²=C²

[@disqusrubbish5467]

Sorry but you still didn't explain how to calculate the 16.97 (17"). To calculate the diagonal of any square, multiply the length of the side (12" here) by the square root of 2 (always approximately 1.41). So 1.41 * 12 = 16.97 Otherwise, good videos.

[@teddyjones3055]

Maybe I'm a complete moron (in fact, I'm sure I am), but I don't see how those derivations of the 7/16'' demonstrate that you need to add that distance to the jack rafters' lengths. It just seems sort of coincidental.

[@TrainingHandsAcademy]

It is simply because of the calculator.

[@craigburgher6097]

First

[@jerryriggan]

And your point is ?