How to get better at FF7 Rebirth combat system. Tutorial for every character

[@KainRaRPG]

Today is the day!! If you want to play alongside me you can catch me on www.twitch.tv/kainra Can’t wait to explore the game fully with some of you. Starting 6 hours from now (6PM EST) when the game premiers🎉

[@johnwayne-kd1pn]

Actually, for someone who generally play most game at hard, the normal mode of this game is quite difficult actually, at some points even very much so, to the limit of feeling unfair and unreasonable.. That being mostly boss fights and "forced" sections of combat. For that reason, as I did for Remake, I would recommend that some players play this game on easy instead, to best enjoy the world, the story and the characters, without getting annoyed about some aspects of the combat, because at some points it can be very frustrating. I did however play the whole game on normal mode, which I consider as a hard mode and not normal at all. To me it was fun and good, but it really forced me to make the best out of builds, and redirect more of my focus towards the combat of the game. But it's way harder than it should be, so that's why I would recommend many people to rather play this game on easy, to avoid the frustration and get the best out of the game. Easy is probably not too easy, it wasn't in the first game (Remake), the combat worked very well on easy without getting in the way of the game experience. In any case, the game experience in this game is even more important than in the first game. But well, for me, matching that with overly difficult combat was quite ok, but then again, I'm used to hard mode combat, not normal or easy.

[@alex97480]

i play on normal and find the game pretty easy but i will agree i must be at chapter 11-12 50hours of play , and they have been multiple boss which i did find a bit hard definitely NOT normal difficulty even i win and didnt die but they were maybe 2 boss where i was like 'Are you Serious.....' like i died 2-3 time in a row and i actually need to think and try hard and pick right Materia...

[@Cathal.]

In the second half of the game, the Normal Mode definitely spikes in places where the previous game didn't, usually with certain bosses and certain conditions that can see your party taking huge amounts of damage. It's fine overall but some players may find that the difficulty curve has some bumps on it.

[@vexcarius7100]

I think the game is just fair, some people don’t even read the Assess data. They go on blazing when the pressure condition for an enemy is to block or dodge.

[@johnwayne-kd1pn]

@@vexcarius7100 Yeah, when you do the whole boss fight well and he ends up one shotting you to death anyways, because your timing was slightly off on a single occasion..

[@Hamoa]

I play games my whole life and the last couple years I started to play games on easy difficulty because I don’t have much time to learn every combat system. But FF7 Remake and Rebirth are something else, the combat is just too good to play it on easy. I‘m at chapter 9 now and only had some problems with Dyne. If you use assess and exploit the weakness you’re good imo. And you should use the right material on each character and learn how to parry

[@thebatman8957]

Where I struggle is with multiple enemies where you're fighting someone and two or three enemies attack you in the back and know you down. Or you block once and then get hit by someone else.

[@johnapplegate3134]

Man if the combat system is complex that just makes it so much more satisfying when it does finally click in place. I’m excited even more now

[@chalupakingsama]

Same. I love the combat of remake it’s very cinematic and rewards your for knowing to to fight but this one looks better to me

[@kriss007G]

Man once you get the hang of it is really fun.

[@IsraTheBlack]

You forgot a VERY important tip about Cloud which is that in Punisher mode if you charge the square attack you'll do a short combo that gives Cloud the Berserk buff for 10 seconds which increases his damage by 30% but also makes you take 30% more damage. It's one of his most important skills and especially useful when enemies are staggered. This was also true in the Remake.

[@KainRaRPG]

well hot damn! Been a while since I played remake. Very useful to know, thanks for that I'm sure others will appreciate it.

[@MikeRavia-xp5ig]

There is an item that puts you in constant berserk mode.

[@KlooKloo]

@@MikeRavia-xp5igThe Fury Ring AKA Tifa's Ring

[@danielmcdonald4699]

I think it’s great. I love the fact that the synergy system forces you to use everybody if you want to use synergies.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

Will you play in Quality or Performance mode ?

[@KainRaRPG]

Same here! Personally I’ll probably be playing performance, fps > a bit of graphical fidelity, but probably try both eventually.

[@danielmcdonald4699]

Probably performance mode

[@zahrah2269]

i love that it c harges both characters atbs!

[@renzocalcagno536]

I didn't think they were necessary until they saved me from losing fights. It's also a way to show off cool combat moves without waiting for LB which is slow to charge anyway.

[@DeionDashing]

This helped a lot. I replayed the demo and it went a lot easier than the first play thru

[@losmoney82]

This video was a BIG help thank you! I didn't know the combat simulator was available in the demo. You got a new sub from me sir!

[@Thevikingninja117]

Remake got hard for me to master because I was not good at making builds and just didn't know how too that well. I got decent at build crafting but not great. Recently started following a 100% run and man it made everything so much smoother and clean. Rebirth demo at first (Junon) was very hard for me however I went through again and calmed down and took it slow and it made sense. I am so excited! This is an amazing video!

[@Daniel_D-bo]

the difficulty spikes are a problem for me

[@Johnnybox81]

Use Barratt as a tank. Seriously - Steelskin and use him to drag aggro if you're struggling. That annoying Fonadu bird? Tank it hard with Barratt then use Arieth to lay a ward > run away> use wind > teleport to her ward. Additional: Arieth's R1 allows an ally to cover you. Her teleport has a slight delay so R1 might be preferred in situations.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

Its not hard at all its definitely more fun though

[@FinalFantasy7Re-]

Ya I used Barret aerith and cloud for Pheonix full might fight. Barret is a survivor.

[@xitogun101]

This game was not complicated but definitely has a learning curve. I think what happens is that there are so many options, people just want to do damage but dont manage their atb, mp, or even aerial combat/yrounded combat and switching between the 2. I have a feiend who beat the hell out of the kingdom hearts games but when she tried remake. She got so frustrated because it wasnt just attacking repeatedly. (She wasnt attempting to make use of pressure and or stagger) and in rebirth it got to a whole new level with synergy skills/abilities. And each character has some nuance to their skills that there are neat and useful combinations that can reallt help certain teams really shine. Yuffie and aerith for atb/magic spam etc.

[@rickn6923]

Turn free targeting on and turn lock on target switch to the d pad. You’ll thank me later. Now you move around much easier

[@bruhm0ment6000]

Honestly I'd prefer if Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth had these type of difficulty, compared to remake, the combat definitely feels more engaging because you never know if the enemies could actually high diff you. The spike in difficulty could also be the result of 2 things. 1) We are thrown into the deep end of the story. The Junon area is after the midgar serpent, The Kalm region, Gold Saucer, etc. So we're playing the game equivalent about 15-20 hours in. 2) The FF7Rebirth's new dynamic difficulty feature. The dynamic difficulty scales bosses to your current level so you'll always have a challenge. Added with the fact that we're playing a demo that is 15-20 with materias and new mechanic we're not used to, surely many will find the enemies hard to beat. Don't worry though, the story starts with Nibelheim flashback so we have room to adapt to the game. One more important thing is that the performance mode in the official release of the game is 100x better than the performance mode in the demo. Gameranx made a before you buy video on FF7 rebirth. Gameranx has early access to the game. In 1:19, 1 minute and 19 seconds in the video, he says and I quote from him, "The game runs buttery smooth on performance mode on PS5, it looks fantastic overall. DO NOT let the demo visuals fool you, the actual game looks way better."

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

You should use bonus rounds when not using Maximum Furry. When you're about to run out of rounds use it again and reload. When you add that with overcharge he does really good damage. Aerith's new teleport ability can be used to dodge all attacks, you can also use it to teleport to the enemy and blast them with Sorcerous Storm.

[@independent_angler]

I really loved the combat in the demo

[@paytonturner1421]

When I played the Final Fantasy 7 remake I thought it was overwhelming It was the combat system where you need to pause and pull up menus to complete certain things. It was unusual and pretty much not sitting right with what I was used to when playing games.

[@johnwayne-kd1pn]

Actually, that's what makes this combat system more enjoyable than alot of "modern" combat systems in my opinion. I really like it, a kind of mix between regular combat and strategy/tactics. Is why I play on "classic" in this game.

[@BezoRazo]

Thank you for this clear and sympathetic tutorial for those of us who grew up with turn-based FF and are feeling a tad overwhelmed by the increasingly complex and chaotic gameplay of this remake trilogy 😅

[@jaytico5835]

You can switch it back to turn base…i havent tried it, but its there.

[@KainRaRPG]

Thank you for the kind words! You can try the „tactical” mode that focuses on using abilities more so you have don’t have to mash buttons as much. I’m also a 90s gamer haha

[@BezoRazo]

@@jaytico5835 I haven't tried it either, but as far as I can tell, it only removes the need to repeatedly press the square button, which isn't really the challenging part hehe

[@jaytico5835]

@@BezoRazo fair enough😁

[@Mustang46liters]

The combat isn’t too hard for me but I don’t know what’s going on half the time.

[@jmds775]

This!

[@Coolio_Ash]

Dude thank you I needed this

[@renzocalcagno536]

Some bosses do have cheap @ss attacks (instant dwath or HP 1 status) that make their fights absurdly difficult. Its about experimenting and keep fighting until you find a weakness.

[@feishino]

I like the fact that Aerith got more damage attacks. As someone who is only getting to know FF, really looking forward to the Rebirth. Thanks for the thorough explanation of the combat, it looks like a possible headache for some xd

[@jtotheroc]

Yeah I hope you have a gigantic box of tissues with you, because you're going to have a broken heart if the same event happens in the forgotten capital, and I honestly hope we get to move forward with fate, or we get the CHOICE to go against fate and rewrite a fixed point in time.

[@KainRaRPG]

@@jtotherocthat has nothing to do with combat though :D

[@BezoRazo]

@@jtotheroc Potentially a bit spoilery, tbh. Out of consideration for ppl unfamiliar with the events of OG FF7, you might want to delete...

[@Enwickote]

​@@jtotherocwhy the fuck you had to say that when he was just talking about her combat

[@riyuphoenix4533]

Its the perfect level of challenge, i did my first playthrough on dynamic difficultly and it was fun. Cait Sith was the only character i had a bit of difficulty getting used to, but after a while it wasnt too bad.

[@nameless646]

The combat in Rebirth for an overwhelming majority of the game is intuitive enough and forgiving of mistakes and has plenty of opportunities to learn how to utilize the new synergy mechanics. Completing all of the intel and side quests will also go a long way to ensure that the player can easily match the next set if challenges that they have to face. Where all of that ceases to apply are some of the Brutal Challenges and Legendary Bouts which can only (currently) be defeated by utilizing exploits that seem as though they were overlooked, or by becoming ridiculously good at spamming Perfect Block timing or dodging the enemies for upwards of an hour or more per challenge. I've not tried a Hard Mode playthrough yet, but I already defeated the classified enemy intel for Genji Gloves with ease, and stockpiling cushions is simple enough to get the remaining manuscripts. I have no complaints with the overall difficulty of the game or the game itself, but some of these endgame challenges are too broken for a large portion of the playerbase and that's where the Zack and Sephiroth content is at. But what's the ppint of playing as them in one off challenges when those challenges are nore frustrating than fun? Overly difficult mini games that deviate for too long from the main game (especially the mandatory Queen's Blood matches foe story progression) aren't good ideas either really. In part 3 I hope that there are less minigame requirements for the best gear and abilities, and endgame content that has fun and replayability in mind more than difficulty that becomes frustratingly obnoxious.

[@TRUCKNSMOKES]

The internet: "Final Fantasy 16 is too easy, need more depth!!!!." Also the internet: "Its too hard zomg please reduce difficulty. I can't even clear the Junon demo!" Gamers have to the single worst clientele in the world. I don't know why anyone in their right mind subject themselves to it.

[@leftymu]

Well that's accurate, really. FFXVI was brain dead levels of easy but VII Remake has you dying in random encounters because the enemy damage output is bonkers and it doesn't let you heal without ATB. They are wildly different in their design

[@zebadicaagain9735]

When people on the internet have different opinions from each other because they a collection of millions of people with differing opinions rather than a single unified mind

[@nxtsec8643]

It’s almost like there are multiple opinions…how is that hard to understand? People that like easy difficulty: complain when the game is too hard People that like hard difficulty: complain when the game is too easy Not hard to understand..

[@KainRaRPG]

I think it comes down to the fact that in Junon you are thrown in with a bunch of abilities and materia unlocked and it can get confusing at first. I love the combat now and think it’s the perfect difficulty (although some mechanics are a bit bs like the bird miniboss). And where ff xvi combat bored me after a couple hours, in Rebirth I can’t wait for more :)

[@rottengalaxy]

To be fair FF 16 had the easiest combat I have ever played

[@DutchDread]

"is it too hard?" Yes, fighting in remake was one of, if not the, most fun I've ever had fighting in a game. I have not enjoyed a single fight in the new demos. I feel like a weak ragdoll being thrown around by a bajjilion attacks just desperately using abilities until until the enemies die while in remake I was dodging attacks and purposefully choosing and chaining abilities. I absolute hate the combat now.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

I can't speak for Rebirth yet but a large part of the problem with 7R's combat comes down to the ATB mechanic. You lose the majority of your functionality if you don't have an ATB segment, so if you use a skill and then get destroyed by an enemy, you're wandering almost dead with no way to heal. I can't think of any other game that doesn't let you just use items when you need to; usually the limitation is how many you can use or carry in one battle, which is much, much more sensible and fair.

[@danielmillward9947]

Tbh it's not the combat change, it's because the junon section is about 20 hour's into the game, so you're fighting tough enemies while being level 20 which is the level you start the game at. Never mind the fact they've only equipped you with starting materia

[@SSlash]

​@@danielmillward9947Aint no way junon is 20 fucking hours in when its like the first major location you actually go to 💀

[@danielmillward9947]

@@SSlash yep 😂 everyone who's played it said you visit the golden saucer, fight midgard serpent etc before getting there

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

If you loved 7R combat then rebirth should be the same but better. You people make no sense. Tifa is even more busted than in 7R imo once you learn her full kit, cloud is also ridiculous. And don't even get me started on Red or aerith.

[@shizochaos]

took awhile for me to click with remake combat system, but this one is leagues ahead in complicity and I'm having a hard time on normal at bosses like titan or some flying mini bosses. So I ended up switching to easy..

[@saw31489]

Is not you, it's the game. They give crap tutorials and even blatantly wrong information (perfect block isn't at the time of impact, it's at the point of mid attack animation)

[@gaolbrake]

The screen shake option only applies outside of battle - it says so right in the menu.

[@supersaiyanzero386]

Try Rulers of the Outer Worlds. You need MORE than darksouls blocking. Way more.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thanks for this amazing tutorial, subscribed!

[@KainRaRPG]

You’re welcome!

[@gu5589]

Something feels off with rebirth combat system compared to remake. Not sure whats that but it seems more chaotic to me and on top of that they made it more complex with those synergy attacks. Will need to play remake again to compare as the last time I played it was a year ago. So far I'm few hours into the game but I know I had more fun with remake's combat system and was able to finish the game on hard mode.

[@darren_mcgarvey]

Once it clicks its so much better.

[@HLl564]

Its just bad and bloated tbh, the fights never seem fun its more like "oh god here we go again". No ONCE was I thrilled to fight an enemy in this game, even leveling up is boring. Materias are too many and too complicated. Its a poor version of a souls game. Half the time you dont even notice that the hell you are fighting.

[@godsplayingfield]

hey, is there a way to force both AI characters to focus on one enemy? there is a fight that requires you to kill one high tier enemy first before killing two minor enemies. but the AI REFUSES to attack the big enemy even if i use skills that should make them sync attack em (like Yuffies synergy attack)

[@saw31489]

Put them in frog with the toad ring and just keep putting those exploding idiots to sleep. Rebirth is not well made or balanced so we got what we got

[@dreamphoenix]

Thank you.

[@virtualbunksie5117]

I love a hard game, especially RPGs. I dont wanna button bash, I wanna learn, build n smash.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

I think people are too used to hand holding. I wish more people making decisions in games would respect the players' intelligence like FF7 does.

[@BezoRazo]

@@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews The original turn-based gameplay took intelligent strategizing, but it wasn't fast-paced and stressful, which short-circuits the brains of those of us who aren't used to that 😅

[@Enwickote]

​@@BezoRazoOG inteligent strategy? Lol just spam attack or spam best magics and summoms or magic weakness and heal when needed on bosses. I loved the OG but FF7R is more strategic and better in every way

[@jamessmootjr1814]

Getting into and staying in the air for combat is unnecessarily difficult. Why not a simple jump button? I keep hitting dodge button and then square. Is that wrong?

[@Nosidda]

My thoughts exactly. Getting in the air should not be this needlessly complex. I put ten hours into the game before quitting, and never knew it was even possible to get into the air. I came across so many enemies that were in the air, and it did nothing but frustrate me that I couldn't go after them without switching to someone who had range like Barret. In FF16 you can just..... get in the air. There's no needlessly complex way to do it.

[@leftymu]

I can't speak for Rebirth yet but a large part of the problem with 7R's combat comes down to the ATB mechanic. You lose the majority of your functionality if you don't have an ATB segment, so if you use a skill and then get destroyed by an enemy, you're wandering almost dead with no way to heal. I can't think of any other game that doesn't let you just use items when you need to; usually the limitation is how many you can use or carry in one battle, which is much, much more sensible and fair.

[@tubii-fushii1173]

Only time your not allowed to use items is on hardest difficulty, you don't need atb to use items jus materia abilities summons and limit breaks

[@leftymu]

@@tubii-fushii1173 You might have to re-read my comment because that's not quite what I said

[@jaytico5835]

@@tubii-fushii1173seriously? I dont believe it. I was running around waiting for my atb gauge to fill up just to use potions.

[@nickblomgren]

​@@jaytico5835Huh? That's completely reasonable. And not in like a "get gud" way. By the time you have cure materia, potions become irrelevant and are more useful outside of battle given the small amount of HP they give. (There's even an option to take them more than one of a time if I remember correctly. Think it's L1 out of battle? Haven't played it in a year.) You should not be running around with the sole purpose to fill ATB in VII Remake. Maybe a few times early on, but if you're hours in and running around to get an atb charge you're... Giving yourself an unneeded challenge? You should be using the attacks on triangle (punisher mode/overcharge/etc) to fill atb, or switching characters if you've aggroed too much.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

"is it too hard?" Yes, fighting in remake was one of, if not the, most fun I've ever had fighting in a game. I have not enjoyed a single fight in the new demos. I feel like a weak ragdoll being thrown around by a bajjilion attacks just desperately using abilities until until the enemies die while in remake I was dodging attacks and purposefully choosing and chaining abilities. I absolute hate the combat now.

[@charleshot25]

I love the combat system in this game, but one thing FF16 and 13 does better than Remake (and the Rebirth demo) is when I died, 9/10 times its because I did something stupid or was under leveled. In Remake (which I platinumed and got the Gotterdamarung so I'm not terrible at the game) a lot of times, me dying was because the game decided to screw me over and not because I made I made a mistake. Attacks that one shot your party, getting hit by random shit off screen, random enemy aggro, and dumb party member AI were things that frustrated me about 7 Remake. I was getting a sense of that in this demo. When I fought Phoenix every time it decided to fly around the map at low altitude, It would scoop one of my party members with it. This is just a demo though, and some of the problems I have may be gone in the full game as we level up and get more Materia. For those having a tough time, put the game on easy then ramp it up when you feel comfortable. It makes learning the game's mechanics less frustrating. When the full game comes out, I'm considering playing on easy then once I max out my gear and beat the game, I'll put it on hard.

[@johnwayne-kd1pn]

There are several of these kind of situations in Rebirth, and it's frustrating and feels unreasonable and unfair, so for a lot of people they should chose easy rather than normal to best enjoy this game, IMO.

[@AzureViking]

I loved the combat in Remake and beat it on Hard Mode and got the Platinum, but the combat in Rebirth feels super cheap and annoying. I feel like every encounter has some particular way they want you to do it and nothing else will work. I also feel like there are way too many attacks littering the field so I am constantly being interrupted or taking damage to the point that I can never get into flow. In Remake I could bounce between characters to deal with being overwhelmed, but that doesn't seem to work in this game. I also sucks trying to use things like Aerith's wards in conjunction with magic attacks as she build ATB too slow and is constantly pressured making it too hard to use her enough to get ATB and unleash any actual attacks. The combat just isnt nearly as fun and way more punishing. Really don't enjoy it this time around.

[@renzocalcagno536]

Aerith is your magic crystal cannon. Does a lot of magic damage but you have to shield her. Equip First Strike, ATB assist and Steadfast Block. Use also Vitality materia and give Aerith a strong defense. You can also use the "bodyguard" sync skill. A very good idea is to have Red XIII as he accumulates damage, he also fills his 'vengeance mode' giving access to strong attacks and abilities.

[@wowJhil]

Good one!

[@notlocmeyer3809]

How often should I be switching between characters. Like should I use one ability and switch or should I stick to using one character in party until they get overwhelmed?

[@deandremcwilliams1496]

That is my question

[@renzocalcagno536]

As little or as much as you want. You have options doesn't mean you have to use them all. You can assign backup support roles for characters you don't use much. E.g. equip Aerith with Healing linked with Auto cast materia, and you won't worry much about keeping your party healed.

[@Cr1tical86]

Is it possible to play turn based like the original version?

[@tomodaniel6471]

Will you play in Quality or Performance mode ?

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

I think it’s great. I love the fact that the synergy system forces you to use everybody if you want to use synergies.

[@KainRaRPG]

Performance for the most part, more fps > a bit of graphical fidelity, but I’ll probably try both eventually. I also heard the full game looks better than the demo for anyone that was complaining the graphics aren’t as good as they should be (I’m old, so I don’t notice that much difference and I think it looks great :D)

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

Performance all the way. I didn't see any problems with performance like most other peeps said. Maybe they are used to sitting 2 inches away from their computer screens all day on max settings pc.

[@kilikilio5321]

aerith already damage monster in FF7Remake. arcane ward is available there and ATB ward. imagine 3 character all use firaga in that circle and each add synergy materia to it too. that was equal to 6 firaga + 12 fire. more than enough to melt the boss. thats "tri disaster" paradigm in FF13 setting, if 2 character we call it "dual casting", if one character we call it "blaster"

[@FinalFantasy7Re-]

I've played the hell out of remake and I didn't even think of to have all characters stand in her ward to do that lol ya that's broken lol

[@grantgarbour]

Aerith with just the synergy materia and fire would nuke the shit out of most monsters for free. Lol she was crazy in remake

[@chalupakingsama]

Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. Those who played remake and learned on a master her combat is she does so much damage lol I know most people were probably using her as a healing person, but I had her as a black mage, and she probably did the most damage by far in all my characters if you knew how to stack up her moves.

[@austintacius]

the demo throws a lot at you in Junon as these aren't the character levels/materia/loadouts you're going to start with

[@StevenDavisPhoto]

Great video. Gauge is pronounced "gage" though. the "u" is silent. And Assess is pronounced "uh-sess".

[@kingkarlo9587]

Idk if it's just dynamic mode, but I find it pretty easy. The only tricky thing do far is getting all 3 unique monster criteria in one shot

[@rottengalaxy]

Yeah it was kinda difficult to get used to but that's not a bad thing

[@Giggles_iJest]

*rolls eyes in kingdom hearts*

[@grantgarbour]

Great vid, but Aerith was never a heal bot lol she was a nuclear bomb when built for it

[@KainRaRPG]

True I expressed it a bit wrong I meant that she seems to be a power house right out the gate instead of “specing” for it. But I do find her gameplay more intuitive now.

[@travisleonhart3371]

Honestly I found it hard but also found it as a good thing pretty much beat every fight except the summon first try and in the real game you are going to be able to upgrade gear , weapons , levels and get better at the combat overall so I think it’s just fine

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

U people are pathetic. You all complained that ff16 was too ez, and now u are crying at the slightest challenge

[@nightfears3005]

Looks trivial. How hard would it be to do a no-damage run?

[@just_a_gamer3420]

Coming from putting myself through pain with multiple souls games this is nothing to me this type of combat system 😂

[@Memehuskie]

If you’re bad at combat in ff7 remake, you’re going to have a heard time in rebirth lmao Ngl I started getting used of the new fighting mechanics during the junon demo and so far it’s great I’m used to it

[@shaunmiller442]

Anakin, Maul, Han Solo, BD-1

[@platterbuss2328]

I only struggle to avoid certain attacks when im airborne. Tifa looks the easiest with her stagger move since it has i-frames and unlike clouds stagger move can use tifa’s while airborne

[@TheDumontShow]

I swear on everything in life that I quit the demo after trying to beat that water dragon boss fight. That was ridiculous. The combat was brutal. Even the fiends i was fighting move way quicker than me. I don't know if the final game is os like this. I really hope its not. That was ridiculous

[@Enwickote]

What do you mean? Combat is similar to Remake, I had no issue only with Phoenix was hard

[@rawstmv]

I hate that red13 has basically no block animation. Also why no basic jump button L2 and R2 do nothing

[@meatyp09]

You should use bonus rounds when not using Maximum Furry. When you're about to run out of rounds use it again and reload. When you add that with overcharge he does really good damage. Aerith's new teleport ability can be used to dodge all attacks, you can also use it to teleport to the enemy and blast them with Sorcerous Storm.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

Honestly I'd prefer if Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth had these type of difficulty, compared to remake, the combat definitely feels more engaging because you never know if the enemies could actually high diff you. The spike in difficulty could also be the result of 2 things. 1) We are thrown into the deep end of the story. The Junon area is after the midgar serpent, The Kalm region, Gold Saucer, etc. So we're playing the game equivalent about 15-20 hours in. 2) The FF7Rebirth's new dynamic difficulty feature. The dynamic difficulty scales bosses to your current level so you'll always have a challenge. Added with the fact that we're playing a demo that is 15-20 with materias and new mechanic we're not used to, surely many will find the enemies hard to beat. Don't worry though, the story starts with Nibelheim flashback so we have room to adapt to the game. One more important thing is that the performance mode in the official release of the game is 100x better than the performance mode in the demo. Gameranx made a before you buy video on FF7 rebirth. Gameranx has early access to the game. In 1:19, 1 minute and 19 seconds in the video, he says and I quote from him, "The game runs buttery smooth on performance mode on PS5, it looks fantastic overall. DO NOT let the demo visuals fool you, the actual game looks way better."

[@KainRaRPG]

Thank you, I’ll be honest I used Barrett the least so good to hear additional tips so others can see!

[@meatyp09]

@@KainRaRPG No prob

[@selynar4889]

Cloud should always be in punisher mode, only dodge if necessary.

[@MikeRavia-xp5ig]

I want to suffer. We basically have fight game mechanics here. Let me face diago.

[@BezoRazo]

Yeah, it's great for action fighting gamers, but they already have loads of games made for them, while turn-based RPGers only had a few, and now they have even fewer. We've become an endangered species. Our habitats are being colonized and transformed! 😅 lol

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

Absolutely not. I've already soloed full might phoenix with cloud and tifa. People nowadays just complain about the slightest show if struggle.

[@redlister2934]

Wish I knew how to make Cloud aerial attack when i was fighting terror of the deep. Had to spend ten minites having Barret spraying the boss while i controled Cloud running around trying not to die. I am surprised they didn't give that to Tifa as well, I always found she was pretty good anti-air in remake. (Not to mention she jumps in the air kicking an angry bird in the face in the flashback with little trouble.)

[@thembill8246]

If you played the flashback demo, it explains it in the very first tutorial for combat. Unfortunately, people are assuming the game is going to play exactly the same so they keep skipping it instead of reading the damn thing.

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

Tifa has reverse gale so all good.

[@attractivechampplayer6048]

Ngl i lost to the boss demo first try

[@elisehermann6094]

I wish they explained the Arial combat better and I was confused about synergy skills versus the other synergy abilities. Other than that I’m loving it, but I play all the souls games and love something more difficult.

[@thembill8246]

The aerial combat is explained in the very first tutorial in the flashback section for combat. If you actually read it, I don't understand how you would have any trouble or confusion.

[@elisehermann6094]

@@thembill8246 yeah, I definitely missed it. Playing remake so much I don’t read every little thing - as a lot was the same - but I missed some stuff for sure out of wanting to get to playing!

[@thembill8246]

@@elisehermann6094 I definitely understand and appreciate being excited, but the same time, like...what sequel plays exactly the same as its predecessor? And it's funny because I feel like they actually have better tutorials this time around that explain more of the mechanics that were just kind of left for you to figure out on your own in the previous game 🤣

[@elisehermann6094]

⁠@@thembill8246I didn’t say they were the exact same - just a fair amount of similarities! The combat framework is the essentially the same (IMO) and is expanded upon with improvements of existing mechanics and a sprinkling of brand new. Those who played intermission got an intro to synergy so can’t really say that’s brand new. I know I’m impatient at times, but imagine many return ff7 gamers and/or hard core gamers will skip through some tutorials as they are redundant and/or intuitive. Though that doesn’t negate the fact that they are still absolutely necessary to have - and agree they did a better job this time around!

[@thembill8246]

@@elisehermann6094 oh I'm sorry I wasn't saying that you were saying that they're the same. It's just people that I have watched play through it seemed to expect it to be exactly the same I meant it more of the like general "you," like... To whom it may concern 🤣

[@unskillfullymasterful]

i dont think its hard , im just AWFUL at the game! it will take me a while to get used to this new system , theres so much to do in battle now that its overwhelming!!

[@JimmyDoyel-by2cp]

Read and practice are your friends. I swear journalists these days ;).

[@jamesadd4566]

The new combat system is so different from the remake. It needs some time to master it.

[@gu5589]

OK I thought its only me but I see others are getting the same impression. To be honest I had more fun with remake's combat system, this one seems more chaotic.

[@jamesadd4566]

@@gu5589 indeed, the combat has become more versatile and variety. I love the new combat system.

[@rickn6923]

You didn’t mention Tifa has many synergy abilities at 0 ATB cost that launches her into the air, once she’s up there she can pretty much stay indefinitely as long as there are enemies to combo and dodge to

[@KainRaRPG]

You’re right! I bet there are many more synergies. I just tried to explain the basics, but it’s great to see more tips in the comments.

[@rickn6923]

@@KainRaRPG no prob 😁 There are some great advanced movement guides out for cloud tifa and red too, stuff like dash cancelling and alternate methods of taking enemies into the air

[@CydonianKnights11]

It’s not hard I just wish AI used skills on there own sometimes instead of me having to order them around should give the option atleast

[@SlayPrincess_ImpregnateDragon]

Aerith was a healbot? Lmao xd

[@SSlash]

The fact that people are really saying this is too hard despite the fact that the game gives you a quick run down of each character when you switch to them is just sad, people literally just don't read

[@UnitedWeStandFreedom]

It is hard for people like my wife for instance! Just because some are a pro like myself doesn't mean the rest of the gamers are. This game is ment for everyone so it shouldn't be this way especially some of those very irritating puzzles from the last one we couldn't even do them because of coordination reasons having some slight disability that has made it close to impossible for us both .

[@ltlsWhatltIs]

Then put it on easy and take time to learn the game. Don't mess up the game for the rest of us. So far the demo has shown the difficulty to be near perfect.

[@kinggamer7889]

Yeah it's hard. You now need two atb charges to just use spells. While u take aoe damage. It's bs, still the same turn based crap. Meaning now u have to decide between healing, using a spell or your special. Alot of cheap damage too. On top of that you can only get three party members and you level up longer. This game like others is artificial difficulty.

[@Mark_CTN]

If anything i thought the opposite, so far the game has been too easy and im jusy going into chapter 11

[@theSith333]

Not hard. Fun and challenging. The way I like it.

[@saw31489]

The difficulty spike is because they revamped the combat system entirely and attempted to lean indy the action game difficulty and style without giving us the action game system to deal with these issues. They want you to block but actively punish you for blocking (the fact that quite literallyevery enemy has unblockable attacks). They didn't increase your speed but even the introductory enemies are multitudes faster and more aggressive... the game design is poor and there's a reason it isn't doing as good in sales as expected and why it didn't shake up the scene when it arrived like remake did

[@RAZORREVOLUTION1]

I'm of the opposite opinion: it's too easy. But I played through the first game and its DLC 4 times. Twice on PS4 on Normal and Hard modes, and then twice again on PS5 on Normal and Hard, both main game and Yuffie”s DLC. Going through this demo once was too easy. All optional monsters on the map were dispatched of and all boxes ticked. It's a shame that I'll have to play through Normal difficulty before I can unlock Hard. Personally, I would have chose Hard straight out of the gates.

[@10XSeiga]

😅

[@zeroskaterz92]

The game will feature Dynamic difficulty which scale with characters' level.

[@greg20423]

@@zeroskaterz92I’m like that better

[@steveozone4910]

Also my penis is way above average 😂

[@beanznriceboi1]

Yea, I didn't find it all that difficult. But still fun amd engaging. The optional bosses weren't terribly hard to kill, but I did struggle to pressure the flight monster.

[@rickn6923]

No its not too hard. It’s a deep system that rewards intelligent gameplay. Get GUD

[@BezoRazo]

Original game demanded and rewarded intelligent gameplay, but without the frenetic pacing and myriad concentration breakers

[@GrimscytheUnderwood]

git gud and practice wtf?

[@KainRaRPG]

That’s what me and a lot of people did I assume :)

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

I just don't like having to constantly switch between characters it gets tiresome real quick

[@KainRaRPG]

You don’t „have” to, the AI does a decent job with them. Also consider using L2 and R2 to issue commands to them :)

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

@@KainRaRPG I do that but they take to long to build their bar have to switch

[@FinalFantasy7Re-]

Use the synergy skills as cloud and it's builds there atb. U don't have to switch as much as u did in remake so it's actually better it terms of that. But it is still good to switch to others to be most proficient

[@ronignino]

Ok question. For someone who completely despise the combat in FF 7 remake . Is there a chance I would bare to finish the game without smashing my head on the controller? I really don't want to waste 70 bucks on a garbage ass combat system.

[@KainRaRPG]

I love the combat personally, but you can always play on easy and probably mashing buttons will be enough to finish it :D

[@ronignino]

@@KainRaRPG the main problem it's not the difficulty. It feels unrewarding , it feels there's a lot of random stuf you can't control happening. It's neither an action RPG or turn base RPG which is annoying. I kinda like FF 15 combat, no issues with it. Didn't play 16 . Now that I tried the remake I'm really scared to buy FF 16 . As I mention, difficulty is not the problem, it just doesnt make any sense to me. The game for sure is not for me.

[@cartoonvideos5]

​​@@ronigninoI agree the real "difficulty" just comes from a sloppy and terrible combat system. It's not an actual good difficulty like other action games.

[@renzocalcagno536]

It's not if you learn how to use the characters and the game mechanics.

[@MULTIPLANGOD]

THERES NO SYMBOL

[@DezorianGuy]

You need to re_record misspoken text lines. Not just correct them by putting in a lazy text overblend, if you want to have a bigger channel. Use this criticism to improve on the quality.

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

I don't think getting the combos and understanding the characters is what makes it tough, it's the cheap way the enemies choose aggro and how little they are effected by your attacks, and how important your atb charges are, but how difficult it is charge them when you need them the most. Really like remake, aside from new skills.

[@DezorianGuy]

@@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews Yes, I think you have a point. Thanks for sharing and subscribe to the channel. ❤️

[@KainRaRPG]

This is the best kind of criticism and you’re right, sadly it was the middle of the night when I was recording and I realized I misspoke at the very end when I was already done with editing, but I will definitely try to improve :) thanks!

[@DezorianGuy]

@@KainRaRPG yeah, no prob. Just mentioned it because you misspoke twice within a short time frame about important mechanics within the games. Once you hear e.g. "attack with square", but it is triangle, and the correction is only written as text while you listening aa a podcadt of sorts, you might get confused when actually playing. Having said that, keep up the good work, you're doing great. 👍🏻

[@jamesgardner1825]

Final Fantasy seven remake combat was such a freaking slog and chore for me. I platinum the game just because it is Final Fantasy. I have beat every game in the series and it’s my favorite series beyond measure but I went back to play remake to get ready for rebirth and good Lord, I put it down after just a couple of fights because I absolutely hate the combat. feel like I spent most battles with a depleted ETB gauge slowly jogging around the battlefield, chasing enemies that move way too damn fast in hopes to land a couple of blows so I can do a move that actually deals a little bit of damage rinse and repeat. It was annoying as hell for me.

[@FinalFantasy7Re-]

Your playing wrong then. Use stuff that gains u atb. There's materia for it. Play as tifa too she goes thru atb like crazy

[@Valentien23]

Sounds like u Dont understand the systems at play

[@Neonmirrorblack]

I really don't see the point of Red being in a party outside of very niche boss fights, or trash that never goes in the air. In the demo he was useless for most of the fights, because he can't do shit as soon as an enemy goes up in the air. Every single other party member can hit both ground and air except him.

[@calebCastro_Rangel]

Easy answer it’s not too hard

[@johnny2shoes738]

Bruh! No! Its FINAL FANTASY YOU HAVE TO GRIND! Its challenging! Its suppose to be!! Easy mode has been turned on for years!

[@Amzingred]

Combat is not fun at all. Just hard work.

[@cartoonvideos5]

The only want to make the game tolerable is to play on classic easy. I like good action combat but the combat is absolutely horrendous in this game

[@jmds775]

I loved the Remake so much, but I regret buying rebirth, so many worse things now

[@cartoonvideos5]

@@jmds775 thankfully I borrow the game from somebody so I can rush the through the story

[@stevej4328]

Anyone still not know how to build up the synergy abilities? 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

[@cosapocha]

The combat is too easy

[@andrebaxter4023]

People just gotta stop whining and git gud.

[@BezoRazo]

You can't just "git gud" at basketball: you're either tall, fast, & coordinated, or you aren't.

[@mcsteve0328]

learning by doing, todays gamers are so lazy

[@carlosdarkknight]

Soft

[@Rpgmaniac]

It's not hard you just have to level up

[@tubii-fushii1173]

Its not hard at all its definitely more fun though

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

Use Barratt as a tank. Seriously - Steelskin and use him to drag aggro if you're struggling. That annoying Fonadu bird? Tank it hard with Barratt then use Arieth to lay a ward > run away> use wind > teleport to her ward.

[@tubii-fushii1173]

@@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews idk why you felt the need to tell me this do to me stating the game "is not hard but more fun" but thanks i guess.... lol

[@HLl564]

The combat system is quite literally some of the worst I have ever experienced, Nothing feel like it matters. Whatever skill you use, whatever weapon or accessory. Everything just feels miniscule and pointless besides simply letting cloud have at it with triple slash

[@magilas8485]

People find the combat hard? It’s more forgiving than Remake 😭

[@ark0oo226]

Combat system the worst trash combo system ive ever seen 🤮👎🏻💩💩

[@kotkot1980]

Nice video but still very complicated while you swap players and looking at the bars and going through a million abilities and spells they have, you just get you ass kicked. I was hyped for the game but after some demo fight, delete demo and forget about it lol. Very frustrating combat system. Dark souls much easier!!