How to Get Inside Someone's Head and Influence from the Inside Out - Subliminal Auditory Stimulation

[@JT-JAES]

I had a therapist, that would always say let's sit still and just breathe for a minute before we started any conversations. I think this is what he was doing now in retrospect. He would do it purposely, and then later actually taught some breathing techniques to help with anxiety. So subtle, I never caught on. Even though it's something I remember very clearly. Just sitting in silence and breathing... I remember feeling very relaxed around him. I always thought he was smart .. now maybe brilliant. Thanks for this insight!

[@virginiastrother4098]

Wow, just wow. This is the coolest thing I have heard about in some time. It takes a lot to grasp my attention, but you, sir, have such a soothing voice and presented this perfectly. This is fascinating and I am going to try this!

[@tonyc2489]

I used to use rhythmic breathing to get my children to sleep. Match their breath, which is usually quite quick and shallow, then gradually slow down and they will follow.

[@citrineshine]

This is so fascinating and can be applied to so many areas of life. I’m having brain explosions thinking about the ways we unconsciously influence one another all day long! Bringing consciousness to this just helped me in so many ways. Thanks for sharing.

[@Dolores-i5n]

This could be used to heal people from any health issues mental or physical ❤

[@tommulryne8075]

I had never heard this particular Dr. Erickson story before and found the whole topic fascinating.

[@DanTheTortoise]

Most of this information is from the paper Erickson wrote about subliminal auditory stimulation. He would often include a lot of personal example experiences in his papers when making points or sharing the history and origin of his thinking, learning or understanding...

[@tanakeilidh384]

That was so cool! Thank you! I'm going to listen to it a few more times to really get all the points. It's all so very fascinating. I follow a spiritual teacher online who once said, "The unsuspected name of God is Breath."

[@introvertedfox6826]

I found this interesting, obviously I’ve heard you talk on this before. I’d love to start practicing using it but haven’t really done so intentionally yet but have noticed that people often unintentionally sync. Reminds me of a friend and I who would sometimes spend long periods of time hanging out but not communicating, often we’d be coloring but it was different than just sitting next to a random person, we had a sort of non verbal connection PS: that guy preening behind the woman though 🤣

[@tanker7757]

holy shit in primary school i noticed that i used to have my thorts align with my breath I thought it was weird and different to others and so I did everything I could to disrupt my breathing patterns so nobody could understand my thorts idk why but I think someone may have said one of my thoughts back to me word for word once and it freaked the hell out of me

[@mikeduby1940]

Can you please explain to me how breathing patterns affect thoughts?

[@EruzaSky]

Awesome! Thank you for doing a video on this!

[@SunnyAquamarine2]

I would like to get into others' minds I'm just not sure how to change my breathing to do it. Very interesting discussion.

[@DIYDSP]

It'a great hearing these stores abt dr. Erickson. Where did hear them? What an obaervant person!

[@DanTheTortoise]

I have everything by Erickson and a lot more, including dozens of hours of videos of him teaching and demonstrating and probably over 100 hours of audio of his lectures, interviews and demonstrations, as well as books he wrote when others and his direct students wrote with transcripts of his work and lots of books by others about his work. He wrote hundreds of papers one of them was about subliminal auditory stimulation.

[@ronwhitehouse23]

I find your videos extremely deep and thoughtful. Are there any videos of you using this particular Ericksonian technique? Thanks again.

[@DanTheTortoise]

I teach it as part of my courses and have a demonstration of breathing someone into hypnosis in this video here (I think there is a demo in this lesson) from an eCourse I created. You can take the course for free: classroom.google.com/c/NTgyNjE0NDg1Mzcz/m/NTgzMjM4OTQ3NDg1/details

[@richardwinstanley7381]

I've done the yawning one and found it fascinating. But never thought of or trying the breathing one on anyone.

[@hollygrahn7654]

Wow this is so helpful! Thank YOU. Do you have any courses or videos on conversational Hypnosis?

[@DanTheTortoise]

On my website I have links to my eCourses, which includes courses teaching conversational hypnosis and the Ericksonian approach. I have also written many books, including the three Hypnotherapy Revealed series of books which teach how to do hypnosis, including understanding hypnosis so that you can be conversational, understanding the Ericksonian approach and a big book of scripts. Here on this channel I have a Learn Hypnosis in an Hour video which includes conversational hypnosis inductions, and also have: Ericksonian Hypnosis Language Patterns video teaching various language patterns: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6exd3WAm5hlrZo and Ericksonian Approach, It Isn't Hypnosis or Therapy, So What is It? video, which teaches the principles underlying the Ericksonian approach, so that you can essentially be working conversationally kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ_bo6WurtmVgdU I have other random videos of me teaching and demonstrating here on my channel, but these are the most specific.

[@hollygrahn7654]

Thank you so much! I’ve just signed up for one of your courses. I’m learning a lot! Love it! I so appreciate you! Thank you for doing this.

[@bla546]

Your work is wonderful. You wonderful a follower. 🙏

[@ellenh278]

When we nonconsciously match breathing, is it usually the socially dominant person whose pattern is matched by the less dominant? How is it determined who is influencing whose breathing? I understand with singing or marching that external factors are at play, but in a group or just 2 people, what usually determines the breathing pattern followed? Social hierarchy? Strongest emotional response?

[@DanTheTortoise]

There is usually one person people are following, this person could possibly be called a socially dominant person, but I wouldn't see it that way because it places one person above another, almost in a power way, which may well not be the case. For example, in a team meeting, the manager may well be the 'dominant' person in the meeting, but if one of the other colleagues is giving a presentation or talking, they are likely to be the one who everyone is matching, on training courses I have taught for example, Graham would appear to be the dominant one, he would be loud and confident and assertive, I would be quiet and unassuming and in a corner, people would perceive him as dominant, yet he would often be following my lead. I have attended courses like this as well, where the trainer should be the dominant person, but after a few hours of practicing with each other and having a break etc, many people end up in rapport with me and following my lead, not because I am encouraging this, but because they have given me a level of status even if they didn't know me beforehand based on pairing with me or the discussions people have had after pairing with me. Obviously not everyone is in rapport with me, but after a few hours of this kind of course, it is often a noticeable chunk of people, where I'm paying attention to the instructor, so I am in rapport with the instructor, but people are nonconsciously following my lead so when I change something about what I'm doing, they follow this rather than continuing to be following the instructor. I have spoken before (and included reference to it in my The Hypnotic Assassin novel) about being on the 90 minute train journey to London sat opposite a mum and older teenage daughter. I could see that the daughter was following the mum's lead, so I matched the mum to influence the two of them. I have also spoken before about how, when I taught these skills to other staff when working in children's homes, myself and another member of staff would have competitions with each other to see who could get the most people to close their eyes and drift off in team meetings. I would win because I would focus on leading the person others are already following, usually the manager, but not always, and as they drift off, so would those who are following the lead of that person. In a group it would usually be 'who are people paying most attention to?' is there someone talking that everyone is listening to? if it is friends, like say two friends, then it is more like a mutual dance, where one friend is usually leading while they take the lead in the conversation etc, and the other person is paying attention, then it swaps and the other person is leading while they are talking etc. Between them if they are just sat, say playing a computer game or watching a film, one maybe slightly more likely to be the one leading, but both will also be led by what they are engaging with. There is also, as you mention, an element of strong emotion leading, so if someone is very emotional, even if they are trying to hide this, that can quickly start to influence others around them, which obviously is something from an evolutionary perspective is helpful, one person/animal feels uneasy and without saying anything the unease spreads so they all feel uneasy and hopefully become more vigilant and aware of potential threats. To test when leading is happening, I would do something like slightly extend a breath and see if the person responds to this yet or not. If not, I continue to pace and try again after a few more minutes...

[@ellenh278]

@@DanTheTortoise Interesting. Thanks. I've very clearly seen where the person with higher emotions can lead others and have had to be in a position to have to counteract this effect to keep a group or family calm.

[@mantralayamsrinath468]

Excellent videos. Already subscribed. If may ask, where in the UK are you based. I would like to get in touch

[@DanTheTortoise]

I do my best to never interact with people, although I do feel I have to at times... I live on the south coast of England between Brighton and Portsmouth...

[@thelaserdoc1]

Your content is interesting. Thank you.

[@introvertedfox6826]

Could you use this to scare someone/make them more susceptible to being scared, say increasing your breathing to someone who is frightened?

[@DanTheTortoise]

You could...

[@introvertedfox6826]

@@DanTheTortoise 😏

[@Davlavi]

I wonder how this relates to modern breath work trend these days.

[@lauriemarvel]

Can you give us examples of how this breathing is done? So interesting. I once asked my grandchildren’s doctor, after watching him check all of the 4 children’s heart sounds, if his heart rate would synch up with the children’s heart rate if he listened to them long enough. He didn’t seem to know what I was talking about and was confused by my question. But, I enjoy teaching the little children how to show emotions, and sometimes that includes changing the breath slightly. I hadn’t realized until now that I was doing that. So, when I’m teaching them “Peek a boo”, and I take my hands away from my face, I take a bigger breath in to show surprise. I notice that this “in breath”, with a wide open mouth (showing surprise facially) is the first learned response in the game. I’m going to pay more attention to my breathing and their breathing when we are doing these sorts of social response learning. I definitely would love to see this technique in action, especially with children who have anxiety. When we lie down with toung children, to calm them, it’s a mixed bag of elements that bring about the calmness in them,the soothing tone of voice and our choice of words, the quiet room, the comforting temperature from the cuddle, the breath to subconsciously mimic, and the feeling of safety and protection. How can this breath help children in distress, especially with anxiety, or tantrums, depression, very young children on the spectrum that can’t express their emotions very well. Thanks Dan, 💖 Blowing my mind with this!

[@DanTheTortoise]

To do the breathing with best effect, you match the breathing of the other person and then lead their breathing by changing your breathing to what you want the other person to follow. In reply to one of the other comments I shared a link of me demonstrating hypnotising someone just using breathing (matching and then leading the person's breathing).

[@juanvaldes1837]

I didn't know, now i know

[@reneeelizabeth302]

Very interesting and cool

[@EruzaSky]

I have questions! 🙋‍♀️ How long do you have to match someone's breathing for on average, before they start following your lead? Or does it vary a lot between people? Also have you ever noticed someone else doing subliminal auditory stimulation to YOU?

[@DanTheTortoise]

It can vary a lot, some people it could be a few minutes, of it is someone you know or have fallen into rapport with before it can be even quicker, so there are many people who just fall into synch in seconds with me because they have engaged with me before, either listening to my hypnosis/stories stuff, or been hypnotised formally many times or just encountered me often, but other people may jump there attention all over the place and change their focus and body language, including their breathing with each jump, so to fall into rapport with them in this way is more difficult. It is quicker if you can control the situation in some way, like of you have the person engaged in a conversation, or are doing therapy, or are teaching and they are listening and paying you attention, or if the situation helps, like if they are sat in a cafe settled in, or are sitting on a bus or train which is limiting their behaviours, or in a lift etc... Children will sometimes interior what you are doing when they notice, they will do things like taking an extra breath or changing a breath to break the connection this can make it more difficult to do this with the child if you don't have their focus elsewhere, like on reading a book or watching something. With people you have a good relationship with you will naturally very quickly fall into synch with each other... Doing it when someone is talking to you is often quick because you can match their breathing while they talk and be giving agreement behaviours as well which increases the connection and responsiveness... It is also quicker when you mix in other things, from the agreement thing, to also being as like the person as possible, so matching nonverbal patterns as much as possible so that it is almost live the two of you are one and they just feel almost like they know you even if they don't...

[@DanTheTortoise]

I've never noticed someone doing it to me (excluding courses etc where you expect it)...

[@EruzaSky]

@@DanTheTortoise Thank you very much 😃

[@DanTheTortoise]

My suspicion is that if we were in a room together and I started talking with you, I would be focused on doing this technique and very quickly you would likely be feeling like you are drifting off. People watching my livestreams regularly who also watch my sleep stories videos often would be so used to my breathing for guiding to deep relaxation that while I'm doing the live stream and breathing to communicate relaxation, they would fall into rapport with me because they are watching me and engaging with me and so before I even start to 'do' anything they would be more likely to already be drifting off...

[@introvertedfox6826]

@@DanTheTortoise sorry to insert myself into this conversation, just thought it was interesting and likely true for myself, I like the videos where I can watch you tell the story or do the induction etc because I find myself quite responsive to your cues. Also like to watch them as it helps me learn to pick up on cues I may not have noticed before

[@eddiebustos2568]

Sounds like NLP. Mirroring,paceing.

[@DanTheTortoise]

Mirroring, pacing and leading so often get mentioned in NLP books and courses, but obviously are also taught on most other psychological therapy and counselling training courses and hypnosis courses dating back decades before the development of NLP in the 1970's. This video is based on Milton Erickson's paper on Subliminal Auditory Stimulation. NLP is about modelling excellence, so when Bandler and Grinder were looking for excellent therapists to model to learn how to do effective therapy Milton Erickson was one of those people they modelled, so inevitably, if you learn how to work therapeutically with people NLP books and courses will usually teach skills people like Milton Erickson used.

[@philg4678]

I tried finding your book but I couldn't get it at the library what is the ISBN number?

[@DanTheTortoise]

I don't know which of my books you are referring to? My hypnotherapy books details are: Hypnotherapy Revealed: Introduction to Hypnotherapy ISBN: 978-1728802381 Hypnotherapy Revealed: The Ericksonian Approach ISBN: 978-1728820552 Hypnotherapy Revealed: Hypnotherapy Trance Scripts ISBN: 979-8643817659

[@creater869]

Were you doing the breathing technique in this video?

[@DanTheTortoise]

It is a technique you do with someone and I'm in a room on my own, so have no-one present to match the breathing of, but there are videos of me demonstrating hypnotising people by just breathing.

[@reneeelizabeth302]

I don’t know how to breathe a song

[@DanTheTortoise]

To breathe a song you just do the same breathing pattern as when you sing a song but you don't say anything out loud. Generally if you sing the song in your mind you are likely to be breathing the song. You can pay attention to your breathing to see whether you are doing this or not. If you sing in your mind while breathing in, that wouldn't be normal because no note would be coming out of your mouth if you were breathing in, so you should be breathing out the whole time you are singing and in between words etc, like you would if you were singing.

[@pamelakasper7627]

Terrifying