How to get Loud Masters with Cubase Limiters

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How to get Loud Masters with Cubase Limiters
In today’s video, I’m sharing one of my favorite tricks for increasing the volume of a track without getting the artifacts, or pumping, over compressed sound that sometimes comes with limiters.
How do I do it?
With two limiters!
Have you ever tried this?
Let me know what you think and what kind of results you got!
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[@DomSigalas]

Great video man! The new studio looks epic! (Aaaand thank you for the shoutout ❤️❤️❤️)

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks bro! Your video Rocks, man!

[@Cefshah]

Yes!! What you describe here generally works for me. As always for me, any moves I make are screened for overall musicality. If the music vibes properly, then I'm happy. 🙂💛

[@daksunhabila9634]

Hi Chris, your mixes really sound smooth and great. Your tips have been so helpful.

[@NRSOGK]

Been looking for this information for days - just wanted to say a huge thank you!

[@simonboyd7255]

Hi Chris, good to see the "Raiser" in use with the standard Cubase Limiter; its visual graphing of the signal is I find a very good way of understanding just how often and how much the limiter is having an effect which was difficult to assess with the standard limiter. Will definitely give your technique a try but will listen carefully too as well as watching!!

[@Y42]

uuuuh 😳 Jk 😅

[@johncostigan6160]

Thanks Chris, I always tried to avoid using consecutive limiters. (I just thought I was trying to fool Mother Nature...) But, with polite limiting followed by Raiser, you still had transients and a sense of dynamic range. This trick is going in my Tool Box!

[@markleyland2661]

Thanks Chris. I personally use the T-Racks clipper first, then I use the Fabfilter Pro L2. Would love to get your take on your fav clipper and Limiters for this purpose and how you approach this using a clipper.

[@kissofkaos1]

Hi Chris ! Very very nice. Thank you so much for your video. I use a pretty similar technique here : in a mix with peaks at around -6dB, I put a first limiter and add few -dBs, maybe 2 or 3. After that, I put a soft clipper, just to catch the peaks at around -3dB. And a second limiter, to achieve the job. And ... very important detail : the two limiters and the soft clipper works in dual mono, not stereo link. It adds a little sense of wide. Very nice and cool trick Chris. And the track used in this tutorial is just amazing. Greatings from France. 🇨🇵😉

[@mixdownonline]

Awesome Stéphan! Thanks for sharing your process :-)

[@jean-pierrebeauchamp3407]

Très interessant Chris je doit t’avouer que je commence de plus en plus a utiliser les plugins cubase merci de nous faire découvrir leur plugins moins dur aussi sur le cpu ☺️

[@markhensonguitarist-composer]

Hi Chris, great video, would love to see a video on your favorite limiters for mastering !

[@hakankutlu4154]

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[@Yurkinz]

Great video, thank you!

[@RenanBEreanSound]

Thank you Chris

[@mixdownonline]

Very welcome

[@sirousrezaie2427]

Tnx

[@ASHFOUR20TWO]

Dope video, could you do a using a Limiter vs a clipper comparison?

[@M4T]

I've been playing with Raiser these last few days, enjoying mainly the aggressive mode. This tip is the ice on top of the cake :) Greeting from France!

[@mixdownonline]

I'm glad it helped :-)

[@M4T]

@@mixdownonline Your videos always do ... 🍻

[@mesabog2]

What is the advantage of two limiters versus using a compressor first then a limiter?

[@mixdownonline]

Using 2 Limiters will just make your life easier if you want a Loud Master. The goal is to share the load of one Limiter with 2 Limiters. You can still add a Compressor before that as a glueing tool if you need to.

[@TheHirade]

We love Raiser 👍

[@dingowhittingham1412]

i was sooo looking forward to this video and then you used a limiter that doesn't come with Cubase elements 12 lol

[@dominikpokorny]

Cool video, clear explanation, thank you 👍

[@mixdownonline]

Happy you like it!

[@cassandrahuskey8866]

What do the letters mean on the template? What are they for? The W, A? R? AND OTHER LETTERS

[@Rogers2850]

Thank you sir

[@mixdownonline]

Welcome

[@ricotibo7161]

eric de québec 🙂. je n'avais jamais pensé mettre 2 limiters . Je vais essayer ça. Oui pour une vidéo sur ton limiter préféré. thanks

[@mixdownonline]

Salut Éric, merci pour ton commentaire ! C'est un bon truc à avoir dans sa boîte à outils 🧰

[@senadmarava]

Best in the World👍

[@Shanx]

Your theme is insane 🔥❤️

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks :-)

[@Byron101_]

@chris what a great song! Luv it...

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks a lot! That's one of my songs, co-written with friends of mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGe0ZJaLgtuLabs

[@Y42]

did you mention the gulfoss master as 1st plugin? I mean it does probably 80-90% of the work! 😅

[@virusindigoindigovirus2870]

Welcome back!

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks!!

[@trevornokesmusicltd5357]

Hi Chris. when Mastering at the moment I use Steinberg Multiband Compressor 'just tickeling', then into Maximiser again tastefully applied, then into a Fab Filter Pro L2 Pre Fader and a Steinberg Limiter set to -1db Post fader

[@mixdownonline]

That looks like a nice chain :-) Thanks for sharing

[@audionic_music]

Hi Chris, thanks for this video. I'm a cubase user myself, and master my own Techno music. I've been using the cubase Limiter & brickwall limiter for mastering, What would be best for the release time, fast release or halfway? By the looks for things, most mastering has a fast release time on limiters.

[@SkyAvila983]

The diff is hard to hear on yt, but its logical

[@sysxtem]

thanks for the video! any suggestions on how would you limit while avoiding pumping and (noticeable) artefacts?

[@mixdownonline]

Hi @sysxtem, thank you for your question! The technique discussed in this video can help with that! Also, try playing with attack/release time on your limiter plugin, that can help as well :-)

[@gabrielu2226]

Hi Chris! how can I get the dark mode in Cubase? It's nice! thanksss

[@John2009R]

Thanks for this video Chris. Is there a reason you didn't also show Maximizer?

[@mixdownonline]

I rarely work with it, to be honest.

[@vineetsharma3735]

Can use in mixing session for final ?

[@amylavoie7307]

Allo Chris moi j’ai utilisé pour mon album un limiteur autre que raiser et l’inflator. Mais là je vais essayer avec raiser et inflator ce que ça pourrait donner. Le plugin inflator est pour moi indispensable, la qualité du son une fois passé dans se plugin wow 🎉❤

[@hakangurdol]

Nice catch, two limiters is much more natural, with one limiter is hard, with the Riser low frequency is softer, im still on Cubase 11.

[@mixdownonline]

Exactly, sounds a lot more natural!!

[@GiuseppeCorcella]

Hi Chris, Can I ask you what long term loudness level you usually master to using 2 limiters?

[@Dangenoir]

Chris, why don't you use Wavelab for mastering ?

[@YokaDoppelRR]

so its this the best way when im finish with my mix to export this whole project in Stereo and import in a new Prpoject and from there i begin to Master this?

[@senadmarava]

👑

[@akshyaacharya]

What is the head phone you are using ?

[@MrTomservo85]

I set the limiter on my master to -1.0db, I can see it just below clipping, and it sounds great. I mix it down and listen to the mp3 and it's still way too quiet. Why?

[@gastonjabaly]

Hey bud im very confuced with cubase if i import a pro mix into cubase to be used as a refference my meters peak on the + 1db or +2 db if i master at 0db my mixes sound super low my friends send me their mixes and away louder than mine im not a rookie i know mastering is just my meters dont match what is really going on

[@Byron101_]

with Cubase Pro 12 you don't need thirdparty fx plugins like Ozone e.g. great times!

[@mixdownonline]

You can do all you need with Cubase plugins for sure, however, I'm not gonna lie to you, some other plugins have better features depending on what I need the plugin for.

[@StayFunKey]

If you see the first limiter only reacting to the snare, is it wrong then to lower just it's volume with let's say 1db? So that the limiter is going to react to the whole mix. Or does it then find another element in your mix to react to?

[@mixdownonline]

With Pop, Country, and Rock, the snare often is upfront, and will have the Limiter react to it. I would lower the snare in the mix only if I think the snare is not well balanced with the other instruments, but not just by looking at the Limiter in Mastering.

[@stephenthompson9722]

Hey I guess this is a fairly basic guide to help people getting into mastering. Is there a reason you leave 1dB of headroom? I use riser to barely knock the top off my peaks at -1dB then use the maximiser to gently push into fire the clip to chop a small amount of peaks. Then maximiser in Cubase to gently lean on a final brick wall limiter set to -.2 so is there a reason you leave 1dB of headroom???

[@mixdownonline]

The -1db headroom is recommended by Streaming services to avoid unnecessary distortion and overloads. I would set it up to -0.2 if my master was for CD. Hope that helps :-)

[@Waku-Erauw]

Chris Selim, do you use it as an insert or output send on the track?

[@mixdownonline]

Usually as an Insert. as much as the Channel Strip is cool, I don't use it very much

[@Waku-Erauw]

@@mixdownonline 🙏🏻

[@verdi260]

Thank's Chris for your approach. I do use also 2 limiters (better to say limiter and clipper) but in WaveLab. But my question would be your metering is always in red - what metering scale would you suggest also to have optical control of the loudness? Thank's in advance. Jan

[@mixdownonline]

This one is in LUFS probably setup to -14LUFS, so it will go in Red for sure, but that doesn's matter

[@toskidus]

Hello Chris, do you speak french ?😀

[@mixdownonline]

Hey Toskidus, I actually do! I am French-Canadian! :-)

[@toskidus]

@@mixdownonline je me disais aussi pour parler un anglais aussi clair il fallait que ce soit un francophone. Merci encore pour tes vidéos, elles sont super !!!

[@musicmasterstudio8314]

In my ears: with two limiters the sound is a lot more open!

[@mixdownonline]

Mission accomplished 🫡

[@dodgingrain3695]

Seriously couldn't tell the difference between 1 or 2 limiters. Normally I actually use 3 on my 2 bus, lol.

[@heyiplaybassguitar]

I couldn't really tell either, listening on headphones! But I know the compression is "less transparent" when overworking a single limiter VS sharing the load across multiple. In Cubase, I like to use the Multiband compressor > Raiser > Maximizer... sometimes a final Limiter, if I'm feeling crazy and need to get that LUFS up 🤣

[@dodgingrain3695]

@@heyiplaybassguitar Typically I use ozone maximizer to get the level up some, Weiss MM-1 for character if I'm looking for punch or width and then a final ozone maximizer to get the last bit of level. Often the first maximizer isn't even doing any compression, the weiss will do 1-3 db and the last ozone might do another 1 or 2 db of compression with over peak limiting. All that gets turned of for the mastering engineer but I leave it on for the artists evaluation of the mix and I'll give the version with the limiters on to the mastering engineer as a reference for the direction it needs to go in when he masters so generally there are no suprises for the artist when they hear the mastered version. Half the time they can't tell the difference between the mix and the final master.

[@Y42]

btw. great Song (well at least that part lol). what bothers me is the name. just call it „Time“ or „Hear me“ „we don’t have time“ is so generic… 😢

[@HoodPoliticsRecordsLLC]

Yea thats cute but your not a mastering engineer; there's way more to the subtle delicate surgery that takes place to a PROPERLY mixed track then adding Limiters FOH! ✌😂

[@stephenyeboah7430]

too many pluginns

[@mixdownonline]

Why's that?

[@Hasan_janfaza]

Chris check your E mail i have texted you yesterday , i have problems with logging my acc . And i sent you the error . Plz check it and reply me as soon as possible

[@mixdownonline]

For sure!