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[@LibertyGarden]

"Gut is muscle." Rip, please send that to me in writing so I can put it outside my office.

[@canarc1]

If ya get it, send me a copy, lol.

[@michaelr6345]

That needs to go on a shirt "Gut is muscle!"

[@albienb6533]

“Ghut iz muscle.” I love you Uncle Rip. 😂😂😂

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

This man really just told a 5'9 200lb dude to gain more weight

[@dadbod488]

I'm 5' 9" at 200lb, and still have (somewhat) defined abs. It's not that heavy lol

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Roger Lilley It's a lot heavier than most 5'9 males that I've seen with decent strength levels. Given this caller's current numbers, he should be able to get stronger with simple programming changes. No need for a sudden 10lb fat gain. TBH if quick weight gain was always the answer to getting stronger then we'd all be obese just trying to hit a 1x bodyweight press.

[@dadbod488]

@@ensnaredbyflesh1030 I'm not disagreeing with you. But 200lb can look VERY different from one person to another, was all I'm saying. Until I see my numbers absolutely SHIT out on me, I'm in no hurry to get heavier lol.

[@cmdrfunk]

@@dadbod488 I'm 5'9, 240 and I can still see my abs. I don't mean like a six pack, but I can see they're there. I'm not fat.

[@dadbod488]

@@cmdrfunk that's the point I'm trying to make tho. 240 would look very different on me. I have a buddy that weighs 270ish. Big lifter, about 5' 10" and has visible abs lol

[@papasmurfdies]

"You take a 3 pound shit in the morning." *Googles 'things that weigh 3 pounds'* A steam iron. A box of wine. A two-slice toaster. Damn.

[@xalian17]

"Im not going to tell you do to back-off sets for the squat. I dont know where you pick up that."-- Grey book under NLP. Great book to read if you get a chance.

[@damontunstall3129]

I felt awful that the guy couldn’t remember where he read it off hand and couldn’t say “your name is on the front of the book!”

[@aclouti6]

this dude's novice LP is over. i'm completely at a loss that no one suggested that as a possibility.

[@therealjlil]

for real, jeez

[@dmhgrosso]

How can you tell?

[@mrjob322]

Yup, time to move on. He should get a trainer or switch programs.

[@jd0879]

I know right, this was a bad answer. The guy has been on a LP for almost a year and at 6:09 when he was saying his rep scheme it’s obvs his NLP is done

[@jocaingles8464]

Not for the press neither the deadlift

[@MrPtrlix]

5'9 at 200 lbs, and he needs to up the weight? lmao Rip never disappoints.

[@vespaman101]

I was fairly lean at 177 in HS at 5,7" and I still had abs visible until I went over 215. I was slightly stronger than this guy at the time. At his height, 200 isn't too crazy.

[@user-tz9jh6pv2j]

@@vespaman101 Whenever I tell people online I'm 5'9 and 220, people call me a fatty :( But I just lift... nobody I've ever met has thought I was fat. I don't know why people think 200+ at 5'9 is too big

[@Mantorok12]

"Ed Coan was 5'5" 240 at his best." Yes, the guy who could squat this dude's total weighs more than him. But you will not get GOAT strong by putting on fat

[@BISF2P]

Exactly. Was cringing throughout when Mark was telling to get bigger. And "Gut" is muscle. Lol Gut is gut unless you're referring to the GH and slin gut 🤔

[@fabioq6916]

​​@@Mantorok12 he was also quite fat and not exactly healthy. He also routinely failed drug tests, if that matters to anyone.

[@stephenmagee9236]

Rip, back off sets are in the grey book and the person who authored that portion describes the lifter being able to do one “Herculean” effort of a set of 5 followed be two back off sets of 5. It is in an example workout for an LP by a former division I athlete. So i guess the great mystery is solved? Love starting strength and practical programming.

[@Russocass]

There's the possibility that Andy Baker was the one who wrote that.

[@stephenmagee9236]

@@Russocass absolutely. But it is in the grey book so just don’t understand why in the videos rip keeps saying he “has no idea” when it is in the grey book. I think this is why there is a pause in the response because the callers are like “Oooookkkkkkaaaayyy.”

[@3ncore706]

@@stephenmagee9236 Guess rip hasnt “rEaD tHe BoOk”

[@sfkingalpha]

@@3ncore706 I still want to be sure what the grey book is.. what is it?

[@ehah33]

@@sfkingalpha Practical Programming for Strength Training

[@IansGoalieDad]

Editor: the word is past and not passed unless someone is throwing a football

[@LTPottenger]

He said past. If he said passed in texan the video would be too long.

[@kameracamera8120]

Your rite

[@ministryofanti-feminism1493]

When Rip learns about this, we may end up reading of it in the international news.

[@jonathand9682]

This is the first time in a long time I felt RIP gave a (mostly) practical answer. Major assist by Robert!!

[@jeffriggins9106]

Ed coan was also juiced to the gills lol

[@upholstery1995]

Also had hella muscle, not just some blob. 242 lbs with 15% bodyfat will look different than 242 lbs with 30% bodyfat. And fat doesn't contract. Muscle contracts. Rip is something else lol 5'9 dude should be able to progress with solid programming and possibly without having to gain weight lol

[@wer8990]

I swear to god, this man is suprahigh blood pressure in human form

[@haydenkosiara1667]

the grey book recommends back off sets to prolong the NLP

[@patale1640]

Man those pinchers are really pinchin in this clip haha

[@steveyd101]

I found that once I'm stuck doing 3x5 for a week, I'll go to 5x3. Once I can't increase weight anymore doing 5x3, I'll take about 15% off the bar and do 5x5 till I can only do 3x5 again... Then repeat. It's not perfect, but it works for my simple brain lol.

[@ProphetFear]

This does not promote growth over a long or even medium-term period.

[@steveyd101]

@@ProphetFear I said it wasn't perfect. I've only had to do that cycle a few times and I keep adding weight to the bar. I know eventually it will stop working and I'll have to do something else.

[@ProphetFear]

@@basedabdu8653 Actually novice.

[@Jmack7861]

Rip is too dogmatic to admit that anything but 5s work, but going to block periodization would help more. Actually getting enough volume in to put on muscle then using a strength block to transmutate the hypertrophic gains to strength gains and then a taper if you’re worried about 1rm’s

[@steveyd101]

@@ProphetFear you are correct. I will probably be novice/intermediate for a long time. The only one of my lifts that gets "stuck" is my press and sometimes my bench (as is the case for most people). Its just a simple systems that allows me to keep adding weight to the bar. I know that wont last and I'll have to change my program eventually.

[@teodormrdenovic1981]

Rip says that he doesn’t recommend back of sets? On page 98 of Practical Programming it literally mentions doing a new 5RM and then 2 back off sets at a 5-10% reduction in order to help a novice get past a stall.

[@naiustheyetti]

intermediate vs novice lifters.

[@teodormrdenovic1981]

@@naiustheyettiit’s in the advanced novice bit, if you have the book you can check

[@elbombero88]

Thank you for this

[@wilsong4096]

I’m 6’2 220 , after watching this I’m on my way to burger Kimg , 2 whoppers Extra fries 🍟, then a 18 pack of beer when I get home . Got to get that press up . The big press will be worth the corroded arteries later in life . For my midnight snack I was thinking about drinking a quart of vegetable oil .

[@cmdrfunk]

Arteries do not corrode.

[@wilsong4096]

Sorry arteries with plaque buildup, didn’t mean for that to confuse you

[@David-tm9wr]

HAHHHAAHHAHAHA the last part dude noooooo

[@baronmeduse]

JM Blakely bulking diet apparently. Vegetable oil poured onto pizza, McDonalds etc. I was dumbfounded when I heard him describing it.

[@qewr4231]

An important part of bench pressing, shoulder pressing, and any kind of pressing movement is to not train the heck out of your biceps and triceps. If you are blasting your biceps and triceps with lots and lots of sets until they get sore they won't recover enough to be able to do heavy presses and heavy bench presses.

[@michaelkarayan6652]

Jump to @2:11 to hear Rip recommend RPE to the guy on the phone

[@mikel9248]

I'm 5'9", 205 and do a lot of strength training, but do tend to stall at that bodyweight. The problem is, once I get above 210 it starts having negative effects on my blood pressure. Been there, done that many times and without fail it happens.

[@elchapo2790]

This guy has just maxed out his LP. Need to move onto Texas method or Madcow. Heck many people move onto those programmes before they even reach a 315 3x5 squat

[@matthewcordeiro2073]

The one factor is bone structure (Length)and bone density. If you look at Mike Mentzer and Frank zane, both men are around the same height. Mike has the ability to hold more muscle because he has thicker bones. Because of this he can handle heavier weights. Zane was no slouch when it comes to strength. But if he tried to get to 220 (around mikes weight) he would be quite obese.

[@RafaelCDet]

facts

[@baronmeduse]

That's true in terms of starting build, but the facts are if you want to start handling heavier weights you need to gain weight. It rarely fails.

[@cooperblakeney1348]

CMON LETS GET BIG!!!!

[@HenchPig]

I agree with a lot of what Rip says but just adding body weight all the time is not the answer. You can get strong without adding a bunch of fat. This guy clearly needs some intermediate programming instead.

[@4everMaxty]

Yeah, idk, he seems like he should jump to The Texas Method or nSuns, something like that. Getting fat isn't the answer imo, he just struggles with sub-par progress at this point.

[@HenchPig]

@@4everMaxty 100% there are many other routes he could go. I definitely would not “add 10lbs of body weight as quickly as possible” Stick to gaining a maximum of 0.5-1lb per week and get on an intermediate program.

[@Jmack7861]

If you aren’t 60% bodyfat and over 200 lbs you’re a woman

[@Jmack7861]

@John Scott “gain 10lbs as fast as you can.” Even rip knows the amount of time it would take to increase his press is way less than the months it would take to build 10 lbs of muscle. 95% of the weight will be fat (and that’s on the low side). The guy is already 200 lbs + with novice numbers at 5 foot 9 with novice numbers. The guy is already fat. He needs an intermediate program and to leave SS behind as his true novice gains are over. The issue is programming not the guy being underweight.

[@ShayanGivehchian]

@John Scott 10 pounds as fast as you can ... that will take 6 months on sterioids for someone at that height already at 200 pounds

[@lorenzopronesti8529]

Hello mr Rippetoe; in my country se are currently in lockdown at the Moment i do not have aveilable a bench to bench press is it adveiseble to subtitute it with upping my press volume and dip volume?

[@christophe_gallant]

To break a plateau you gotta get a gut bruh

[@upholstery1995]

Not necessarily. If programming is not all that, the ceiling for growth might be low. Dude should prolly be able to progress without gaining weight if he has solid programming and has other factors in check (sufficient protein, sleep, etc.)

[@SamuelTitus-cz3fu]

It's not complicted but you need to know what your weakness is. If it's triceps, do some pin pressing an inch above your head or include some isolation tricep work. If its your front delt include some db front raises at the end of the workout or seated db presses to stress the font delt without being limited by other potentially weak muscle groups. If it's your core, you can try some db windmills or one arm db presses for 8-10 reps or do some push presses and concentrate on slowly lowering the bar (5-8 secs) If a muscle is lagging you need to train outside of your main lift or change the lift varion at least.

[@MrCheetah440]

Gut is Muscle!!!!!

[@dougstewart5122]

Is there a SSC in Albuquerque? My 87 yr old mom lives there & I'd like her to start training.

[@sharkaithegreat]

"I'm not gonna tell you to do backoff sets on your squat, I don't know where you picked that up." He probably picked it up by reading your book

[@jeremiahlighthouse]

Isn’t in practical programming for the next step if after adding a light day on Wednesday isn’t enough to keep progressing.

[@sharkaithegreat]

@@jeremiahlighthouse Yep. Advanced novice section. Page 98 even says "it has been observed that the back-off method works better with squats, and the 3x3 method words better with the bench presses and presses"

[@mtxibrandon]

I thought I was the only one who caught this.

[@LTPottenger]

he's still a novice so no

[@sharkaithegreat]

@@LTPottenger advanced NOVICE section

[@112101440]

Like the Boise Shirt.

[@Mantorok12]

8 minute rest between press? FIFTEEN minute rest between squats? How long does this dude's training sessions last?

[@Rizzo2185]

his training sessions are 24hrs long

[@jd0879]

Ya that part was ridiculous lol

[@0vermars520]

Lifetime

[@user-tz9jh6pv2j]

I'm gonna be honest, I have long ass resting between my presses too. I used to do just the 3 min prescribed rest, but it just didn't work for me when I hit a 155+ press. I would just get reps like 5, 2, 1 I switched to resting 5 minutes in between my press sets, and I immediately started getting 5, 5, 5 again. I just don't recover enough in 3 minutes.

[@Mantorok12]

@@user-tz9jh6pv2j I would suggest you're hitting a point of diminishing returns in the linear progression. 3x5 with more weight is progress, but not strictly so if you need far more rest to accomplish it. If you can do 3x5xX with 4 minutes of rest, but 3x5x(X+5) takes 5 minutes of rest, those aren't the same conditions. That is regression rather than progression. Strength is a matter of intensity (weight), volume (reps), and work capacity (endurance). I would recommend looking for a periodization program, that goes from high volume with moderate intensity down to low volume with high intensity. Also do some cardio. 20 minutes on the treadmill with enough Incline to keep your heart rate up, you don't have to go fast.

[@miguelcosme5120]

In practical programming it specifically says you can only mount "one herculean set" and it notes a set of 5 at 390 and some back off sets at 360. Should there be another edition of practical programming?

[@VegetoStevieD]

Do you happen to remember which page?

[@xalian17]

It’s in the Novice programming and in the example template. It’s in the damn book and Andy Baker uses that approach in his programming.

[@pablomarrero6062]

Rippetoe has contradicted himself as Practical Programming for Strength Training 3rd Ed shows back off sets for squat on the advanced novice section. KBBCD

[@NotoriousNUGS]

I've seen some strong ass dudes that dont have a gut, you dont have to gain weight to get stronger it'll just take you longer.

[@israeladesanya262]

Nice logic.

[@jasonpletscher1744]

What should the percentages be for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd sets?

[@Mukation]

Somewhere between 80% of your 1 Rep max. That leaves a few reps in reserve for set 1, maybe 1 or 2 reps for set 2 and the third set the 5s are your max.

[@raiden031]

Rip seems like the Dave Ramsey of lifting

[@tedk.9093]

My thoughts as well. "Well whatever you're doing isn't my system so don't call it my system" Granted, both Rip and Dave are great and help a ton of people all the time, but they are not the end all be all masters of their fields. They're just simple, effective programs for foundational growth.

[@raiden031]

@@tedk.9093 funny ever since I wrote that I see people saying that all the time. And the parallels are striking. Southern accents. More right leaning / skeptical of government. Both target beginners/those who struggle. Both aren't optimal for everyone, but they act like their program is the only thing. Both will rant in a humorous way about their opponents on the air.

[@K4R3N]

Yeah I'm familiar with both guys. Their early stage recommendations make sense for most folks. But for intermediate or advanced situations I'll go to other sources for more nuance. Rip and Ramsey are good or beginners mainly

[@kqh123]

So how does Austin Baraki lift those big weights at 5'10 195lbs? Serious question.

[@MrUndertaker1212]

Very based

[@92EGcxGSR]

“Some room”?? Almost like one should leave a rep or two in the tank, kinda like rpe 🤔

[@jballs1879]

"Nooo, leave this house you filthy demon!"😅

[@abdullahalkandari6592]

I think the difference between rip's approach and RPE is that rip wants you to leave room in a pre-scheduled manner, and not based on your subjective assessment. Granted that i do like the rpe approach.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

If you're pressing three or four times a week, when do you bench?? Because pressing and benching on the same day is too much for OLDER people, people over fifty. Plus, what do you do first, the bench or the press?

[@oskarlindblom6276]

You start pressing four times a week once you’re intermediate to advanced, not a novice. At that point, you need to choose which lifts to focus, you don’t progress both lifts simultaneously when pressing four times a week. This would be obvious to you from experience and common sense if you were intermediate to advanced. I doubt this is very relevant to you and your aged joints.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

@@oskarlindblom6276 I don't know man, this is not what he said... and I wasn't referring to me when I said for older people... just that older people have to have other considerations. It is also NOT "obvious" that you should only press or bench that is also NOT what he said, and no one said anything about progression, the point is to attempt to IMPROVE your press, that is what the vid is about. Jesus!!

[@mackenziebenedict8403]

@@ggrthemostgodless8713 It’s a lot to go through everything on the phone with someone asking a question. The information is out there. Either in the grey book, or uploaded on youtube somewhere.

[@JeewanthaBandara]

5' 9'' and 200 and Rip wants him to gain more weight. It's gonna take a lot out of him and worsen his conditioning. Sounds like he's resting a lot between sets already and it's just going to add to that. I dunno. I'd probably start adding dips into the program to strengthen the upper body.

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Don't know why Mark is so insistent on everybody getting obese. A good strength coach doesn't advocate this.

[@cmdrfunk]

GIve me a break I'm 5'9, 240 and am not fat.

[@ProphetFear]

@@cmdrfunk People have different definitions of fat. >20% for body comp goals can be called fat for a male.

[@Jmack7861]

@@cmdrfunk doubt it bro unless you’re a very advanced lifter that’s been lifting for 10+years with gear. To be that heavy at that height with a not fat bodyfat% your ffmi would be at least 27

[@mackenziebenedict8403]

@@ProphetFear if people have different definitions of fat, why are we saying Rip is making someone fat?

[@daxisperry7644]

I'm a huge fan of starting strength and Rip. But this answer really annoys me when it seems to be the Only answer, is gain more weight. I'm not afraid of getting fat, and I personally want to get bigger. But he's always saying how strength training is for everyone, but what of you compete in a sport with weight classes and its not powerlifting? If your competing in MMA and you're stalling, is the answer to just keep moving up in weight classes? Come on.

[@1111poul]

15 MINUTES BETWEEN SQUATS? Bro, That means it would take you like an hour just to warm up and do 3x5. Perhaps your work capacity could be a contributing factor, and not your BW. Training less will hardly get you stronger.

[@Jmack7861]

It’s programming. Unless you’re working with 800+ lbs there’s no reason to need to last that long. I’d argue to cap it at 10 min because at meets that’s around how long the wait is between your attempts. Rip just thinks getting fat is the answer to everything when in reality most of the answers to the questions he gets is switch programs

[@1111poul]

@@Jmack7861 i would cap it at like 5 min, at the absolutte Max. I only remember one time, Where ive had to rest more than 3 minutes between sets, and that was 6x6 deadlifts.

[@mtxibrandon]

This is why having a rack in your garage is a beautiful thing

[@1111poul]

@@mtxibrandon....?

[@user-tz9jh6pv2j]

@@mtxibrandon I don't have a garage

[@Michael-4]

'Gut is muscle'

[@discipleex4589]

My press is 300 3×5 and my bench is only 345 5×5. Got my own gym in my backyard and a small Filipina wife who I don't trust for spotting me on bench. 200-205lbs bodyweight for now, should I just invest on a bench or rack with pins? Just don't want to rely on someone else until I can get coaching here in Colorado springs. Thanks

[@mackenziebenedict8403]

yes, absolutely

[@user-tz9jh6pv2j]

How much did you pay for the Filipina?

[@jerseyjim9092]

I guess if your sole goal is to push more weight, bulking up would be the way to go.

[@jd0879]

Best part is 7:07 I always laugh at it. 6:44 Rip using Ed Coan as a benchmark is a bad example. Ed Coan weighed 1.5x his height so by that comparison I should be 270 lbs at 6’0. No thanks

[@Rizzo2185]

lol!

[@jabberwock14]

Ed was also one of most gifted lifters ever, and also on anabolics. I'm not bitching about roids but it does make a difference in weight and bf%

[@jocaingles8464]

You should though

[@jocaingles8464]

I'm 264 myself. I'm 5'11 and squatted 451 in my first meet last week. And I just recently finished my NLP. Sure I got some extra fat, but I can shave that off now that I'm strong.

[@K4R3N]

I knew he was gonna tell him to eat more

[@Fuq2]

"It is my program n' shit"

[@fatboitino2]

All of y'all only heard, "get fat". He also said a lot about developing more of the musculature of the body

[@qewr4231]

When I was in my 20s I did seated shoulder presses with 275; barbell and plates. I am five feet eight 185-190 pounds. I used to barbell shoulder press 225x8, 250x8. A person should definitely be able to lift more on the shoulder press than 161.

[@georgetubb9124]

I have no idea how people can recover from such high volume. Lol. Just life circumstances etc I suppose. Sleep. Stress, etc

[@jeffriggins9106]

Cause they live physically easy lives.

[@georgetubb9124]

@@jeffriggins9106 yeah. No way I could bothered to spend 1.5-2 hours in the gym on a full body program working a 55ish hour week. No more than 20-30 mins 4 days/week for me lol. But slower progress is still progress and if I can consistently train over the months and years it's better than stopping training entirely as life gets more complicated which happens to most young people

[@jeffriggins9106]

@@georgetubb9124 I hear you brother, keep on keeping on. Consistency trumps all ultimately

[@dinnybam2057]

does rip expect everyone to just balloon up to 250+ and lose all athleticism?

[@cmdrfunk]

yes because linebackers aren't athletic. Dolt.

[@dinnybam2057]

@@cmdrfunk we're talking about the average person here. Not a linebacker who has years of intense cardio training in that bigger body and didn't just pack on 50 pounds of fat in the last 6 months. Dolt.

[@expo7112]

Is Chase the standing bench press dude?

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Yes

[@Jmack7861]

The guy that started off standing, bent backwards until it was a bench press, and stood back up with locked arms. People think arched benching is a joke, watching his overhead circus trick is the real joke.

[@jarondavis9795]

@@Jmack7861 man facts lol

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

@@Jmack7861 as a standalone feat I consider his technique impressive.

[@Yeomannn]

@@Jmack7861 circus trick lol

[@aumurphy]

Past*

[@josephkawabata]

Rip would shit brix if he saw the title

[@johanhansson4574]

Tren?

[@richardmurphy8350]

Doesn’t this depend on genetics and body type? I’m 5’11” and weigh 74kg. If I try and gain 5kg as quickly as possible I will just lay down fat. Last year I was 86kg, I’m stronger now at 74kg (though not strong by lifting standards).

[@elijahcriste8217]

By presses do you mean strict presses? Like ohp?

[@iamarokotmanson]

Yes

[@GreyRock100]

3lb shits 💪🏻

[@IgnatiusCheese]

I feel attacked

[@bradekegren1723]

Gut is muscle 😂😂😂😂

[@dadbod488]

I'm gonna drink to that statement when I get home from work, for sure 😂

[@sleasymonster2105]

@@dadbod488 Drink whole milk!

[@maximusstrength157]

Answer to all problems : "Gain some weight". That's all fine and dandy, but at some point you gotta come up with a better answer

[@jaghad]

To be fair, that is, in many cases, the only answer. Like Rip says you have to train the press more often. But having done so and having perfected the technique you cannot press more than a certain weight given your genetics and bodyweight. If you take drugs you change the equation, but, if that's off the table you are back to bodyweight and genetics. And, you can't do anything about your genetics. Thus, the only thing you can change is your bodyweight. It is that simple. I would not follow Rip's advice. I want to look good. I have accepted that given my weight, genetics, the time I can spend in the gym and recovery, I really can't do much about the weights I am lifting. But, hey, that is fine. I am satisfied with the outcome.

[@shubhamlahoti9758]

@@jaghad pragmatic

[@vile8601]

This is rips only answer because he has no idea how to program outside of beginners

[@israeladesanya262]

@@vile8601 Then why is almost half of his book Practical Programming devoted to intermediate and advanced programming?

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

@@vile8601 i'm sorry but this guy literally wrote the book on programming lmfao

[@SlowRiderDucati]

Man my twin sons are 17 and press 225 lbs after one. Year and weigh 185 lbs at 6 foot 1. I'm benching 500 lbs at 58 years old at 235 lbs. We bench 2 to 3 times per week. Other days are back legs and pulls and arms. We give bench it's own day.

[@IgnatiusCheese]

POST LIFT OR IT ISN'T SO

[@MSchmitz77]

Cool story bro. Got any evidence? This has to be a troll lol

[@jerrythomas4457]

Of course you do…😂

[@CTG01]

I squat, press, deadlift, bench 3x a week, as long as I eat enough I have no issues increasing the weight every session

[@jerseyjim9092]

I've often wondered why more fat increases lifting strength. Why does being fatter enable one to lift more?

[@portman8909]

More mass makes it easier.

[@tobiasfunke6351]

From what this guy is saying it sounds like its time for an intermediate program, maybe some HLM

[@cmdrfunk]

Nick's Intermediate Programming for the Upper Body Lifts article has worked fantastic for me.

[@tobiasfunke6351]

@@cmdrfunk could you send me the link please? Im doing well with my upperbody lifts but im bound to hit a wall soon and so are some of my clients

[@mickymcfarts5792]

Rip just told the guy to eat cheeseburgers

[@longball756]

Hell yea

[@dumbfailurekms]

Most people start lifting to look good. Then we have rip fans. lmao. Going from fat and weak, to fat and strong, is still just being fat.

[@longball756]

Yea but for a 225/250 OHP its worth it 💣😎

[@asthecrowflies1201]

@@longball756 preach.

[@moeazam6358]

What's a better program?

[@woppif]

what is meant by pressing here? they say your press and bench. is it shoulder press?

[@haydenkosiara1667]

press refers to overhead press. bench press is the flat bench press

[@jerrythomas4457]

He’s talking about pressing your face against a window

[@djslakor]

"You need to grow a gut, because gut is muscle."

[@fabioq6916]

I keep having to remind myself that for Rip, all that matters is the weight on the bar. If you want all round health, lean aesthetics and any kind of GPP, find another trainer.

[@stevenkurinec4194]

Big pressers can almost always bench big, the converse isn't necessarily true.

[@Jmack7861]

Get to 60% bodyfat because if you’re under 200 lbs you’re a woman and there’s no barbells in the jungle

[@Jmack7861]

Wow I didn’t even watch the video and was right. How is it so predictable of rip to say this dumb stuff 😂 if dude is over 200 lbs and 5’9 and benching that little he doesn’t need to gain weight. He needs to move to an intermediate program.

[@garouthetiktokinfluencerhu9731]

You guessed it too. 😂

[@3ncore706]

5’9 200 pounds and Rips advice to “gain weight” 💀

[@longball756]

Having a gut isn’t bad... I rather that than not being able to fill out my arm sleeves

[@adraticofficial]

So confused This is nothing like the book lol

[@frankd8774]

"Gut is muscle" - because if it isn't, then there isn't a lot of muscle doing this podcast.

[@cynthiagraham4046]

Hear about that New Mexico police officer killed by that drug dealer? Gunned down with an AR15. His fault, not the gun’s fault to be clear.

[@danw1089]

5’9 and 215 and I’m not a fat piece of shit

[@tommyharris5817]

Rip is wrong; he's not too light at 5'9" and 200 lbs which is already obese.

[@sergeant1446]

You must be American because they say the dumbest shit, I'm 5 foot 9 220, and I'm a U.S. Calvery Scout. How could I be in the military and be obese? Im in Europe at the moment and they're not hung up on bodybuilding physiques like Americans are. I see why americans never win weifgtlifting in the Olympics, se we get our ass kicked everytime, even by the Chinese

[@farhanhussain_]

I usually agree with Rip's ideas and have lot of respect for him, but I just don't agree when he always advices to gain weight for most problems. I would rather have a smaller press than to have a bigger gut/belly. It seems that LP is not working for that guy and he should try some intermediate program instead of gaining more weight and gut. His rest periods between sets are also quite long.

[@09thespecialone]

And the thing this is that weight gain in order to progress on the Press, it does not work. The Press is, actually, the only compound lift insensitive to a change of bodyweight.

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

tbf they do talk quite a bit about programming in this video

[@ericvaca3582]

This is kinda some bull... I can bench 305lb, squat 335lb, deadlift 355lb. I am 5’7” @172lb. S is small because I only started about 1 1/2 years ago and DL started 1 month ago. I wanna see what these guys’ programs are. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@LTPottenger]

You should be able to approach double weight bench press you are still novice. If you gain weight you will definitely get stronger but if you are already fat obviously don't do it. Eventually at that weight you will simply have to put weight on.

[@user-tz9jh6pv2j]

You bench 305 but only squat 335 and DL 355? Weird numbers.

[@Michael-cb5nm]

“Passed” your press? Who’s writing the headlines, Joe Biden?

[@jonathand9682]

Covfefe

[@jerrythomas4457]

Let’s go Brandon!

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

This caller should seek out a real strength coach and stop consulting Mark Rippetoe.

[@LTPottenger]

like athlean x? lol

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

@@LTPottenger No, maybe the kind of coach that works with actual strength athletes who are past the novice stage. Mark is pretty much unqualified to coach anyone past that point.

[@ProphetFear]

@@ensnaredbyflesh1030 He isn't even qualified to coach them. Go to the Starting Strength Dallas facebook page. These poor people are being made to be >25% bodyfat with unsavory adipose tissue to squat 3 plates for a few reps and deadlift 4 plates for a few reps. You shouldn't have to become medically overweight to hit numbers like that unless the coach doesn't know how to train you.

[@LTPottenger]

@@ensnaredbyflesh1030 Sounds like athleanx to me, he works with the PROS and is CERTIFIED.

[@ProphetFear]

@@LTPottenger AthleanX gets people to be underweight and weak. Rippetoe gets people to be obese and still weak. At least AthleanX won't increase your risk of a heart attack by 50. Lol

[@craig4867]

Bloated Slob doing this video! How embarrassing! Do you want to look like him and your answer should be no way! Steve Reeves had the ultimate physique!

[@ProphetFear]

Get on a better program. Or do your own programming. There you go.

[@jamescollinge9082]

Better program. Hmmmmm I'm sensing an average iq here.

[@Jmack7861]

@@jamescollinge9082 he’s right. After 10ish weeks SS doesn’t work anymore. Time to move to an intermediate program. The guy has no business gaining more weight.

[@jamescollinge9082]

I'm sensing more average IQ.

[@jamescollinge9082]

2 +2 = 4

[@zero1628]

@@jamescollinge9082 But why are they doing better than you?

[@REVIVALFitness]

TLDR: Get fatter

[@Jmack7861]

Rips answer to everything

[@patrickhodgson361]

Jesus when the guy started talking. Rippetoe shoulda told him no more soy milk buddy ok queero

[@Ethereum1789]

Sounds like a lot of cope & projection. Jealous he's stronger than you?

[@franky01ize]

Thus dude is weak af