How to Get Variegation Back When Your Monstera deliciosa 'Albo' Borsigiana Reverts Green

[@777uriel.]

It's time for and update! I'm dying to see what happened 😁

[@CarinaKeKz]

with monstera albo its all about the node that activated. if the node activates on the sole green part of the stem it has a very high chance of just giving you a green leaf thus loosing all variegation it had before. Your reverted albo is a prime example of that. Since the albo mutation is kind of a "one-timer" you can only bring it back by trying to activate another node on the stem that has still white on it. Many people have done so in the past by chopping the plant back to the node that has still variegation. Just as you said, the node is much more important than the actual leaf it puts out, half-moons are nice but have the highest chance to revert, the "marbled" one are the most stable of the bunch and personally my favourite in visuals :) with the reverted parts I would love to see one under grow lights and in in "just natural" light to see if it makes any difference in bringing back variegation. Many people claim that light can make the difference so that would be a good experiment in this situation!

[@petevsplants7516]

Yeah, I think you're right, mate.

[@jessicacarlson9437]

I had mine in the same spot and got two totally different leaves. I wish I could post a pic. One is almost all white, and the next was almost all green. I have her in a bubbler rn; I never had one…. Got a beauty; and ended up getting a cheapo plant; mealie bugs!!!! 😒 and then root rot. This is my last chance with her. Idk what to do. I want to mail her to someone to rehab 🤣🤣🤣 I’m so nervous I’m going to kill her.

[@TehBananaBread]

Just not true, so much people spreading misinformation about albos. Just because a node is white doesnt mean the leaf coming out will be white. The leaf sheet protector will be, but the leaf has a good change to still be green.

[@CarinaKeKz]

@@TehBananaBread I believe you missed reading the word "probability"

[@TehBananaBread]

@@CarinaKeKz I think you missed writing the word probability.

[@cornertankcorner]

any updates on this?

[@itsapolloelectric]

Love your content mate, you gained a new loyal follower!

[@petevsplants7516]

Thanks a lot, mate! I really appreciate it.

[@amelise]

Hideous is in the eye of the beholder 😂 functional and practical FTW. Hope those Wagyu nodes give up the goods!

[@petevsplants7516]

Haha true that :D

[@judecezar8715]

i enjoyed watching you always chopping plants!ol

[@petevsplants7516]

Hehe cheers, Jude!

[@ReadingIsMagic0]

Can we please get an update video!

[@pikubird]

Updates?

[@ashleyd8627]

Thank u for another great video

[@petevsplants7516]

Cheers, Ash :D

[@alicelarez4311]

Yay,another useful.post-made my day.

[@petevsplants7516]

Haha thanks Alice!

[@aceylt]

with good variegated stems...you get good activated nodes....and good variegated leaves

[@ambergiambitti5340]

I am new here and loving all of your videos, but where's the update?! Am I just not seeing it? That's very possible.

[@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887]

Hence marbled variegation is so much more appealing to me lol. Chimeric variegation is a cool thing but also risky, those half moons...gah lol!

[@petevsplants7516]

Yeah, true that. Both are chimeric I believe, but yeah, the marbled version is much more stable as a result of the mixing. And it just looks nicer hahaha

[@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887]

@@petevsplants7516 yes exactly! I reckon it looks better too lol!

[@panihmar6243]

Waiting for next video

[@marambula]

Thanks for sharing

[@petevsplants7516]

My pleasure! Cheers for dropping by mate :D

[@kathleen8104]

Love those containers where do you buy them?

[@sansonkrylow1997]

clicked on it because of the daddy energy 🤣✨

[@petevsplants7516]

Haha thanks mate!

[@msbluefishredfish]

I picked a half moon. ( I shouldn't have) the store clerk was very confident that it would not have a high chance of reverting. But it did. The plant is so healthy and doing well I feel bad cutting it up. I also don't want to risk killing it.

[@Stealther]

Do you have to chop the plant up to activate the node or can you simply cut the reverted leaf off in order to activate a node further down the "parent" stem?

[@RusticRaver]

Shit I actually prefer the reverted version rather than the one that a pigeon shat on! cool channel still! What's up with transparent pots!??

[@petevsplants7516]

Haha nothing wrong with that. The transparent pots allow you to watch root growth and health so you can avoid overwatering and repot before pot bound.

[@carolen7484]

Hi, can you share the outcome? We did the same to our albo and new leaves are not variegated

[@carolen7484]

Thanks so much.

[@elmerbaez6784]

Great video!! What are those pots called?? I need those pots for propagation chores. I love them. Thank you.

[@petevsplants7516]

The transparent ones are from Bunnings :D Just transparent nursery pots.

[@elmerbaez6784]

@@petevsplants7516 ok. I'll look it up. Thanks!!

[@petevsplants7516]

My pleasure, mate. If you're not in Aus, check Amazon. Search "orchid pots" too, there might be similar versions.

[@jedveon]

Hi where did find a reputable store for your Monsterra Albo here in Australia? I want to buy one and there is none here in Canberra

[@AutunnFowler]

Deliciousa is large form borigiana is small form two different things. Right?

[@LizBongZCrazyBrokeWanderer]

Interesting- checking on the progress 🎉

[@petevsplants7516]

Cheers, Liz :D

[@southpark5555]

0:58 - that's what happened to me. I had amazing half-moon -- still alive, and it's just growing green leaves.

[@deniserobinson816]

I bought a large green monstera and I divided it into 4. Today I see a white leaf coming up from one of the pots. I'm excited, if it's variegated, but what do I do now

[@randykoch1807]

I've noticed elbows never get big enough to get mature leaves 🤔

[@petevsplants7516]

The issue might be people cutting them up very frequently hehe

[@Ozzzy506]

where do ppl buy these plasic cointainers? i cant find them and eceryone uses them??? help meeee

[@richardr5878]

I’ve been curious about this. When you chop the reverted “top” for lack of better term, is variation “inside” the stem or solely what’s seen on the outside? Will any new activated buds variegate? Kind of like blue eyes skipping a generation or two, but the recessive gene is still present and just needs a partner, so 2 brown eyed parents could produce a blue eyed child. Stay tuned!

[@petevsplants7516]

Yeah, good question. Guess we'll see how we go lol

[@sherryporsch9349]

My daughter is one of those. Lol I have brown/ hazel eyes, her Dad brown, however my Mom blue eyed, an brothers, her Dad Mom blue eyes an his sister. I was still amazed at daughters blue eyes. 💚

[@CarinaKeKz]

with the albo mutation it is a no - its a chimera mutation that only exists in the mutated tissue itself. You have a slim chance of underlying tissue that has still mutation but isn't visible when a node activates on the green part of the stem - thats when people claim you can bring it back by light

[@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887]

Not really, this is chimeric variegation so it acts differently to classic recessive / dominant inheritance. There are plants that have variegation that resides in the plant's entire genome, and that is inherited through seed etc. These chimerically variegated albos are different. These plants actually have 2 separate sets of genetics in them, essentially 2 individuals living in the same plant, just the cells of each are scattered through the plant rather than in a particular spot. The white cells have one set of genetic information for an individual that fails to produce chlorophyll; that's why those cells are white, because chlorophyll is what makes plants look green.Its also I gues why they only exist in a chimera with green cells, as no chlorophyll at all equals dead plant lol. The green cells have the normal genome for the plant which produces chlorophyll, so those cells look green. Nodes are the joints where undifferentiated cells reside, and that produce growth hormone, so the cells in the nodes are the tissue that creates new growth. When you have cells in the tissue around the node that are green AND ones that are white, and the new growth point sits over and picks up both, you get variegation because the cells replicate both green cells and white cells into the new growth point and hence the new stem and leaf. Reversion to green or all white happens when that growth point happens to pop up in a place in the stem with either all green or all white cells. So the new growth only has cells with ONE of the 2 genomes, it only has cells that are genetically programmed to grow green cells, or ones that are genetically programmed to grow white cells (ie not to produce chrolophyll. If that is total, if there's no white or no green producing cells in the new growth, you won't get the variegation back. In other kinds of variegation (not chimeric) you can cross pollinate and may well get recessively carried (or some complex mix) variegation that could pop up again in subsequent generations while not showing in the mother, but this kind of chimeric variegation really needs to be propagated vegetatively (ie by cutting) because of the combination of 2 separate genomes. There do seem to be plants that maybe have a combination of chimeric and other kinds of variegation, but with straight chimeric you need to cut back to the last node that carried both white cells and green cells, and hope that it starts a growth point in a spot where there are both. I find chimeras fascinating. there are cases of human chimeras where a mother has been geneticaly tested and shown not to be related to her own children, because she carries 2 complete genomes in her and the test only picked up one, whereas her child came from the other! Also some interesting criminal cases where a perpetrator was not picked up as they were a chimera. There are some cool photos of chimeric inheritance in animals online too, cats with one pattern on one half and a completely different coat colour and pattern on the other, or in patches. Probably way TMI sorry lol, I just find this stuff exciting lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@petevsplants7516]

@@sherryporsch9349 Yeah, eye genetics is actually pretty complicated and apparently it's controlled by about a dozen different genes each with varying influence. My kids are the same. My wife has brown/hazel and I've got blue and my kids have a darker browny kind of blue. Here's a good read - medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/traits/eyecolor/ A good example of chimeric humans would be organ transplants I think. For example, if you had a bone marrow transplant or a liver transplant and it's successful, those cells/organs have the genome of another individual in them, but it's now within another person whose remaining body has a different genome. Pretty cool! But yeah, it can happen naturally through mutation as well. I read another example is where two twin cells in a uterus fuse together and a child is born with two different genomes.

[@grahamwhitman5515]

hi bro. where can I see an update please

[@aileensmith7716]

Why do you put activated charcoal on the ends of the cuttings?

[@petevsplants7516]

To dry them out and stop infection.

[@aileensmith7716]

@@petevsplants7516 Ah, I see. Thank you.

[@jamesparadigm]

🐸🧦 🤞crossing my fingers for the proliferation of mutation

[@petevsplants7516]

Haha true that!

[@ultravioletindigosoulconne3320]

Hi cpuld you link the uodate of this video

[@CarlosRibeiroArtist]

Whenever he says condensation I jus think (Oh noh the condensation)

[@petevsplants7516]

lol what's that a reference from?

[@CarlosRibeiroArtist]

@@petevsplants7516 h2o just add water (an Australian mermaid series I used to watch growing up

[@roflstomplolmao]

Hey mate! Just wondering if you’ve had any experience with variegated monstera seedlings reverting - is there anything you can do? I’m not sure if cutting the stem will work when they’re so young 😅

[@rebeccanicole8898]

Newbie questions here. 1, is the charcoal to prevent rot? And 2, any chance you could maybe explore a chop and prop with a really inexpensive plant like pothos? I am always so afraid to chop ANYTHING because I don’t know where I should be cutting!

[@petevsplants7516]

Hey Rebecca, yeah will do re: 2. 1. I've heard it can potentially help in that area with keeping soil healthier, though I just think it adds a bit of diversity to the mix and is porous and probably holds a bit of extra moisture.

[@daniellemeier9789]

Update?

[@edwardboyd3660]

UPDATE PLEASE!

[@--JohnDoe]

I guess more light = more white. Less light = more dark green.

[@petevsplants7516]

Nah, in this case it's not light related as the variegation is chimeric.

[@debbibowen]

Have you tried using orchid pots or are they too "airy"?

[@petevsplants7516]

I haven't and I think they might be, though, it probably depends more on your substrate and watering regime.

[@LYILH]

Lol everytime you break out your 'potting tarp' it makes me laugh because I made THE SAME MISTAKE. Side note: Do M. Albos have the same tendencies to get root rot that I have heard M. Thai's do? I've had good luck with my Thai so far but it would be nice to know in case I get my hands on an Albo.

[@petevsplants7516]

Haha :P

[@jessicacarlson9437]

My albo got root rot bad, but my Thai; I ignore and is living her life. I think the albo is worse than the Thai; imo.

[@melanieklarofficial]

Your title is deceiving. You didn’t tell me how

[@mnj640]

Albo disappointing us again