How To Get Work On Behance: What you need to do Ep.8

Is it true you can actually get work using Behance? How are people using Behance to get work? Do portfolio sites like Behance work? Is Behance better than Dribble for getting work? What do you need to do?
In this episode, Melinda gives Chris a status update on the progress she's made so far. Listen to and apply the tips that have helped her grow her business and generate new business leads.
Everyone keeps asking, How do I get work when the country I live in doesn't value design? Do what Melinda did.
Melinda Livsey
Marks and Maker
www.marksandmaker.com
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01:40 How many Behance projects have you updated in terms of presentation?
03:00 Q: How much time did you spend to update each project?
04:16 Q: Is the time spent a good return on investment?
06:20 Melinda: I've stopped prescribing solutions and started asking questions to discover real problems.
07:22 Melinda: I'm learning to compete against myself and no one else.
08:07 People tend to delay the challenging and important tasks, and gravitate towards easier ones.
10:20 When you change your mindset, your focus changes as well.
12:01 Q: What type of questions did the strategy facilitator asks?
13:20 Figure out what people are trying to achieve and what's getting in their way.
17:14 What makes me effective in business meetings is being bilingual in the language of art and business.
18:40 Q: Are you more comfortable talking about money and being rejected?
19:50 Acknowledge the progress that you've made so far.
22:20 You need to relate to people on multiple levels.
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101 Things That I Learned In Business School - Michael W. Preis
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[@BneiAnusim]

The Futur is an inspiration to me. Every time I watch the show I learn something new. At this point in my life, I'm in that place, planning to go solo, on my own. I just don't want to work for anyone but myself. I'm fired up about this new chapter in my life! Thank you, guys!

[@tasneemabrahams3032]

I am exactly the same as Melinda was, struggled to talk about money for fear of the rejection. Recently had a telephonic enquiry (from a previous client referral no less) and after establishing roughly ehat their pain point was, asked them their budget! Of course they pivoted and asked me for a ball park figure so I followed the advice and said I couldn't give an accurate estimate without understanding exactly hat work is require but I can say it won't be less than..., and guess what that call turned into a 15K project. Granted its not millions but its a huge improvement for me. best part is I didn't even have to pitch or work hours on a long winded proposal. win without pitching for the win! thanks Chris and Melinda! 💖

[@tasneemabrahams3032]

sorry for the awful spelling and grammar, I was excited to share 😊

[@melindalivsey1]

That's amazing! Thanks for sharing. Congrats!

[@VirtualBFFs]

That is awesome! congrats!

[@bradthegringo]

Congrats!!

[@MrOnex80]

@@bradthegringo, doesn't work everytime, I tried it, the moment I said I couldn't give accurate estimate without understanding the work, the client just vanished afterwards. some client just doesn't care and want to know the price directly. and if we refuse to give they just left to find another designer

[@TonyLopezArts]

I'm a simple man, I see a Futur video uploaded I hit the like button.

[@EfecanKabak]

Make that man an Artist! :)

[@melindalivsey1]

:P

[@JoeShock7777]

tony lol

[@TonyLopezArts]

Anthony Okeiyi no. I'm just fast on the twitter fingers.

[@rafiktekari]

This is the best comment I have seen this week

[@ForeverDansky]

Absolutely loved this series! Thanks so much Chris, Melinda, and everyone at The Futur. 👊😀

[@melindalivsey1]

You're very welcome!

[@khadijahossain4438]

@@melindalivsey1 love you Melinda

[@parce98]

One day ill be sitting and talking with chris, that's my dream

[@melindalivsey1]

Dreams do come true...

[@guirohden]

I did it this week! Though there were no cameras, that was a milestone for me. So yes, dreams do come true.

[@g_rant_]

That's awesome~ How did you get that to happen!?

[@Fo2shstein]

Gosh, I cannot thank you enough Chris for this channel, you are the only person to provide me with this very unique type of education. Also, I love your pants!

[@thefutur]

Fo2shstein thanks!!

[@HowardWimshurst]

Chris Do's fashion sense is on point

[@jearsh]

fun fact: his wife picks out his clothes

[@monicasdesignprocess]

This was an amazing series, I learned so much! Also looking forward to a follow up episode several weeks down the line to see how Melinda is doing. I must say, you have the best long-form videos series I actually WANT to watch all the way through till the end. Such incredible content, thank you for putting out the absolute best!

[@thefutur]

thanks Monica.

[@melindalivsey1]

Thanks Monica! I'm excited to implement everything I'm learning.

[@MAYAN7AMI]

In the process of doing just this, and was literally just wondering if I was taking too long. Really glad to see that I'm in the same ballpark in terms of time! Keep up the great work guys.

[@melindalivsey1]

As long as you're moving forward you're good!

[@ninaanderson9318]

Holy crap- that tagline at the end was so on point and on brand it blew my mind.

[@MediodesignCaSocial]

Awesome episode as always. Melinda is such a down to earth person. I can really relate to her. What about an episode on how to work on strategy from a person (like Melinda) that is not super used to do it? She said she has a friend that is very good at it. But I would love to hear you guys talk about ways to use strategy in design without being a master strategist. We always have to do a bit of strategy before getting into the design part, right? I would love to hear how she do it, and how to improve her skills in that field. Thank you again for this content you guys are doing. This is incredible.

I keep watching the episodes. So happy to see Melinda Grinding her business. So much valuable information here with Chris. Thank you so much everyone

[@kevinplacide7174]

Hi Melissa & Chris, First of all, I really want to thank you both for these videos, it’s helping me a lot. I started to watch the playlist last week and I’m on this episode. Melissa, you said that you updated your behance projects and I notice that you have thousands of views on your page. This is something witch I’m stugglin with cause I already updated once my projects couple of years ago and I know that I’m not as the same level as you do. Right now, regarding my last projects I have only dozens of views and I don’t know where is my issue. In a previous video, Chris talked about making a project presentation that look like to 5,10,18k. When I’m done with a logo, I’m looking for what’s working on behance and try to imitate them. A lot of creative show all their process and construction logo, from sketching up to the final logo. Yours are based on clean photographies and final products. My question is, whitch one is the best way to reach more people and get more views ? I know it’s been a while since the video was post so I hope someone wil see my comment. Again, thank you for everything, I’m really greatful and sorry if my english is not perfect, I’m just a french guy ^^ Cheers,

[@maeceseirafi3177]

Great job you guys! Melinda you're you're definitely evolving on a personal level and reaching new heights in your business.

[@keyvisco]

After the pandemic, this series is more relevant than ever, thank you!

[@caroljeffrey2080]

Thank you for sharing! Melinda gives me so much courage.

[@melindalivsey1]

So happy to hear that!

[@liveformusic8]

"Start competing with yourself, not with others" - what a great episode, thank you.

[@Jak_powiedziec_po_niemiecku]

Let me also say: thank u Melinda! I watch you getting ale The tough questions from The smart chinese Guy and u are still that calm. I would see half of his questions as a critic and would take A step back. Im workin on it. Youre helping with your way of taking advices. Youre doing Great!!!best wishes from a polish girl from Cologne, Germany 😁😁

[@mumintaha7883]

Thank you for your contribution and hard work. Thank you very much.

[@ajjames9065]

Another great benefit of these videos, not just this series, is the frequent mention of quotes and book titles. Not only are they always relevant, but they've forced a non-reader, me generally speaking, into reading three books currently. Thank you! I know, #10percent... I buy them through your affiliate links.

[@melindalivsey1]

That's great AJ!

[@kristopherleithwood]

Another great episode guys. I really love the content and value you bring to this profession.

[@andres.sebastian.design]

All your videos I need to see at least twice! Thanks for sharing High Values

[@melindalivsey1]

I'm glad they are here anytime we want to re-watch.

[@robmetchado6233]

Thanks for this again Chris! Very Powerful and Smart Person.

[@ClassicAlberto]

This is incredibly helpful, thanks Melinda for sharing your personal case and thanks to all the team for taking time to educate us :)

[@melindalivsey1]

You are quite welcome.

[@awatifbentahar]

I'm getting SO MUCH value from these videos, it's crazy! Thank you, thank you!

[@thefutur]

You’re very welcome

[@Poohbify]

I think you've done an excellent job at analyzing, breaking down these talks, what she can improve on and how you're able to output information that makes sense. I'm going to adopt this way of speaking, positivity and take my time thinking to have my thoughts come across as clear.

[@thefutur]

Thank you.

[@samm5880]

Chris Do is the design dad we all need haha, I'm loving these series with Melinda and feeling so connected to her :") Thank you for doing these!!

[@thefutur]

You’re very welcome

[@micah5531]

Chris, love the video. Would be awesome to have a short (or lengthy if you’re feeling inspired) and focused video on your general methods for providing strategy like you did around the 16:00 mark when you started talking about Tetris and your 3 golden questions. Would love to share that with colleagues.

[@thefutur]

Micah Headdings k. Let me see what we can do.

[@maryyamahsan6804]

Thank you, Chris for providing so much value!!!

[@thefutur]

My pleasure!

[@StephenLee529]

Great ep.....! Growth can be scary but once you get more confident it's awesome. Keep going, this is great stuff.

[@melindalivsey1]

Thanks!

[@ten-ub4xd]

the content that the futur gives is so helpful - cant thank you enough!

[@thefutur]

Glad to hear

[@KimAlbarran]

I'm just writing a little comment to support you, normally I'm not that kind, but seeing that you a creating great content and taking care to answer to most of them is an amazing way to share positivity, and I definitely want to be part of it. Good day.

[@thefutur]

Appreciate it

[@mikefirkowski4252]

Keep it going! I love this series, You are giving so much value for other desingers... I can't believe this is for free ;) Just can't wait for another episode.

[@thefutur]

glad you enjoyed the series. talked to melinda, and she needs a break. be back in 2018.

[@mikefirkowski4252]

Sure, thanks for info :) Wish you best guys!

[@ahmadraza5258]

Thank you for sharing useful information. I have started following futur and learning new stuff. Once again, thank you 😊

[@thefutur]

Thank you. Appreciate it

[@elenamay5403]

this channel is the best out there and i really wish there was one like this series for photography

[@thefutur]

Elena May are you a photographer?

[@elenamay5403]

Yes I am, have only been working professionally for two years now

[@elenamay5403]

but most the marketing advice you give applies to any service business so I am learining! keep up the great work

[@GeorgeKishe]

Impressive insight as always. Thank you for the behance angle 🙏🏼

[@melindalivsey1]

:)

[@jesuscorona3077]

This are great videos, so much you can learn from this conversations. Helps me to use the impulse to bingewatch for good.

[@jesuscorona3077]

The Futur We need a season-finale-cliffhanger scene like: Ben arrives "Chris, who are you talking to?" Turns to the couch. Melinda isn't there anymore. Fades to Black... And that is why I'm not a writer 😉. Seriously, can't wait for those videos after the break, I'm sure Melinda Livsey is going to have a lot to share.

[@itajac80]

I'd pay to see that! lol!

[@JoeShock7777]

love these videos Melinda is the GOAT so real

[@nishma]

Just in time! after arranging my Behance yesterday, wanting to get serious about it

[@melindalivsey1]

Great!

[@LearnUX]

This video feels like sitting and chatting with an experienced friend who wants to share his knowledge and hacks - I really like it, and you're explaining how to get started with Behance in a really useful and thoughtful way. Thanks!

[@melindalivsey1]

:)

[@7phazmac]

I always play golf with my Dad too and do the same thing of trying to beat him rather than beating myself to improve from last time. Thanks Melinda for the tip!

[@melindalivsey1]

Glad it helped!

[@TylersTrying]

For anyone interested, the interview Chris mentions from Todd McFarlane is on the Complex youtube channel. Its an overview of his mindsets that made him, a self taught artist, into one of the top five highest paid comics artists of the 90s during the speculator boom. He was the primary artist for Spiderman throughout the 90s, didn't like his cut, so he convinced the other top artists from both Marvel and DC to quit with him to make Image comics, which is still the number 3 top comics publisher in the world, with Todd as president. Wonderful interview. I've watched it twice.

[@martinascolours]

Excellent as usual. Congratulations Melinda on your progress !

[@melindalivsey1]

Thank you, Martina!

[@ramdarass]

Can you please share a link to episode 1? I figured it would be in the description or pop up link but maybe I missed it. Thanks in advance

[@carrie.kyarri]

Lol I love it when Chris smirks!

[@Danvzla]

Thank you guys! u are doing a terrific job. #FeelingInspired

[@MateuszBroniarek]

Love you guys!

[@Penfinity]

You're an amazing human being Chris. Great job Melinda your progress is simply unbelievable.

[@thefutur]

thank you!

[@melindalivsey1]

Thanks!

[@annaslt]

Amazing content, I'm a photographer and Thank God it's off season and I can watch these videos and try to apply new knowledge. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@thefutur]

Awesome!! Thank you

[@pegahsm.]

This is SO GOLD! I am internally screaming outta excitement!! :D

[@jasinAmsterdam1976]

Great insights, thank you!

[@melindalivsey1]

Thanks for watching!

[@jsunshine4]

I agree - I use to post my life on Instagram then I switched to my Art and Photography - I don't have a big following but it has certainly Increased in Activity ... Great Episode = The Futur

[@thefutur]

Jim Burke ty!!

[@thefrexar]

Well done Melinda! I agree with Chris, he picked a real winner. I think it's best for you (and internet) to stick around after the break.

[@melindalivsey1]

Thank you, Mike! I appreciate that.

[@scameron7506]

I think at least another dozen or so episodes should be enough Chris, thanks... :D Great content as always, Melinda is such a charming guest!

[@thefutur]

we will return with ep. 9-16, if Melinda is willing. we will do a season 1 recap and then launch into season 2.

[@melindalivsey1]

Thank you S Cameron!

[@arsenalisra]

Guys you are awesome! But where are the previous 7 episodes? Can't find them for some reason, thx!

[@thefutur]

search for the Melinda Livsey playlist. it has every episode she's been on.

[@TedBettridge]

you know it's going to be a good video when you pause it at 0:00 and it's chris mid-laughter

[@melindalivsey1]

=)

[@PrettyKittyPaintings]

Oh my god, now I need to illustrate Melinda as Luther from The Warriors

[@hagorize]

can you do a video on the chris do's dos and don'ts on behance?

[@thefutur]

haha. yeah. we can work on something.

[@jarmelo2006]

I have been designing for more than 10 years. And could not understand why I was failing and struggling so hard until now. You just don't get this information from universities. Thank you.

[@PhotohackLovers]

i stopped posting pics of myself so much and more of my art on social media and then i started to get inquiries. IDK why but that happened. Also having a portfolio on behance, I don't care if your the best artist on earth if your not engaging and apart of any social community you will fail.

[@thefutur]

Photohack Lovers agreed.

[@melindalivsey1]

That's great you started getting inquiries!

[@WonderWithGil]

I've learned a lot from these videos!!! I applied them haha! I've improved a lot when it comes to dealing with people and negotiations. =)

[@alexladas]

It would be interesting for a new video to talk about artist procrastination, since it was mentioned and we all suffer from it :D

[@melindalivsey1]

That would be interesting.

[@afrocat3974]

keep it coming you guys!

[@melindalivsey1]

:D

[@thefutur]

we are going to take a short break so that Melinda can get caught up with her work.

[@brandyspain7125]

The Futur i really appreciate this channel.

[@kataploon]

Those were Melinda's bad habits? Hahahaha cute. I can't stop thinking that Melinda in a previous episode said that she wanted to be or look 'original' and Chris says something like 'I see you (points out the mac) and you look exactly like everyone outside in San Francisco' and then he says that original stuff is a false idea which I agree, but... what I really want to recognize is that Melinda is definitely one of a kind, focus and hardworking person, very unique and talented, so many good things in one person and that makes her automatically original. My comment could be outdated, I just started the series and here she is already a stronger entrepreneur, I am already satisfied by her process, I imagine that now she speaks in a fluent business language and feels extremely proud, Chris too. Congrats both and the futur team too.

[@rebrand9830]

We need our Melindaaaa! (just in case)

[@KimasM]

Chris and Melinda it would be awesome and I think inspiring if you two would share your story how you started your companies and started working and how to start, what type of motivation it took to accomplish that. Or maybe I just missed on older episodes. I would really like to hear your stories.

[@thefutur]

Forged by Kimas already have. Many episodes for how we started.

[@melindalivsey1]

The short story: I started freelancing before I graduated and continued to have a side hustle when I worked a full time job. When I got laid off, it was a natural progression to start my business.

[@KimasM]

Thank you so much for sharing that. And it's also inspirational and amazing journey to go with you on these episodes. You rock Melinda! :)

[@AustrianAnarchy]

Finally figuring out how to use Instagram on PC (it is possible) and about to jump onto Behance because of you guys. Some other platforms too.

[@Venom.Strike]

Wise words at the end!

[@bobyalex3d]

Hi Chris! Do you think if you're not good at business and talking to people is better to hire someone to do that for you? for instance you give him like 5-10% from the deal ? ( sorry if my english is bad I'm From Bulgaria )

[@JacobHalton]

These are great, I can't seem to find the whole series though, is it still collected somewhere?

[@thefutur]

Yes. Look for Melinda playlist

[@JacobHalton]

@@thefutur Thank you!

[@michaelstancato6057]

"You are learning your second language now." Can't wait for the "Business Terminology For Creatives" laminated cheat sheet. with asterisks on line items referencing frameworks/sources.

[@thefutur]

Michael Stancato are you in the pro group? We had an episode on that.

[@michaelstancato6057]

The Futur No. I'm in the CORE group and the Business Bootcamp Sales & Marketing groups.

[@AustrianAnarchy]

Chris, "The Warriors" was a 1970s film :)

[@salonigarg5016]

Hey! where can i find the previous videos of this series? I tried looking up but was unable to. Could you kindly help me with this?

[@thefutur]

Search for Melinda playlist

[@alexbacarella]

I'm a simple man, I see a futur video, I click like!

[@melindalivsey1]

Haha

[@soniarodriguez7411]

No Please,,, I love Melinda videos. I learn so much,.. !!,,

[@melindalivsey1]

=)

[@kraljsrki]

Man this girl reminds me so much of my professor of graphic design... her moves, voice, everything, its scary.

[@melindalivsey1]

Really?! Weird.

[@kraljsrki]

Yes I guess everyone has its own doppelganger.

[@western_highs]

I wish I could Chris as my mentor. He is like a bald version of friend from South Korea. They talk and act the same exact way. A genuine care for people challenging them to become a better version of themselves.

[@thefutur]

blake, i'm mentoring you through the videos.

[@western_highs]

And I really appreciate you taking the time to create all this content. It's definitely been helpful. I've had a lot of personal struggle in trying to become a full time freelance designer, and to be honest I'm not far off the launching pad, but these videos have helped give me the courage to try to achieve what I've always wanted to do but have always doubted my ability be able to do it.

[@archrao2103]

NICE!! Can you please do a behind the scenes episode on how to create good visuals for behance. What are the dos and don'ts :). Thanks!

[@melindalivsey1]

You can get halfway there by studying great accounts and see what they do. Most have great mockups and photography. Imitate them.

[@PaulWvideo]

Competing against yourself - very nice observation.

[@melindalivsey1]

Thanks, Paul.

[@01234SR56789]

could we have a video about business terminology post the acquisition of a client? i.e. finance/contract/industry terms and whatever else that applies

[@thefutur]

let's continue this in the pro group.

[@melindalivsey1]

Shibanee are you in the Pro Group?

[@01234SR56789]

Melinda Livsey yes :)

[@01234SR56789]

Hi Melinda Livsey !

[@melindalivsey1]

Oh, awesome!

[@veronikazsofiszabo9964]

25.44 - 25.52 so true! that is what it is, the reality ;)

[@BlackBalloonDesign]

I wish you would have dug in with the ROI details and really get into the math. Factoring in her hourly rate and the price of the new projects I'd be curious to see how that actually compared.

[@thefutur]

Black Balloon we've done that episode before.

[@BlackBalloonDesign]

Yes you have and it was great. But I was speaking specifically about this instance, a more real world example with real numbers.

[@amalekilawlor2922]

Love it!

[@melindalivsey1]

Thanks!

[@tin-sewdavid633]

hey chris, can you do a video about the business language for designer? hmmm....

[@thefutur]

already have one. pro group only.

[@neuemage]

I've gotten offers from my Codepen profile, but these people have insane expectations and low budget so you need to ask the hard questions before getting exited :p

[@yamzara4006]

I wish Chris will also record the real conversation between clients in a real project. Maybe then can discreet the prices and other private information. Just want to know how Chris interact on Big or not so small project.

[@brajeshpathak8243]

I would recommend to do pod cast

[@xXSkullKingXx]

Just wondering if its 50/50 what shes doing different and her getting exposure on The Futur.

[@thefutur]

at the end of the day, does it matter? what matters is she's growing.

[@xXSkullKingXx]

The Futur very true. People just need to know that it will take time to get results. And I know you guys have said that multiple times over. Just a thought 😊. Thanks for the reply!

[@nathanvanprooyen2312]

10:30 - That's called Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. I'm way late to the party on this one, but figured I'd drop it anyway.

[@thefutur]

thanks. yes. you are a little late, but than never.

[@beatezeuner1817]

Hi Melinda, can you put your Behance link in here? Didn't find it on your website.

[@melindalivsey1]

Beate Zeuner hi there! It's Behance.net/marksandmaker :)

[@mariannarossi82]

never got any work through behance and i've been there since 2008 :O and yea, I do invest a lot of time on my portfolio as well

[@melindalivsey1]

Interesting. Have you considered looking at your tags? I realized when I started putting generic tags that my potential clients would type in (brand identity, logo, branding, graphic design) I noticed an increase in inquiries. Just a thought!

[@mariannarossi82]

yea, i always put all the right ones. I guess I'm just in the wrong market (meaning country). take a look around if you want :) goo.gl/AKML9h

[@mariannarossi82]

I have the feeling that very few clients know Behance. am I wrong? Always felt it as something built by designers for designers

[@thefutur]

make it easy for clients to find you.

[@thefutur]

you are wrong. it's how i find designers and artists.

[@user-sr8ru5cr6d]

Hey, is that alright to mix up behance portfolio with photography and graphic design I do together or should I have two split behance accounts for it? Thanks :)

[@thefutur]

I'd say try to focus on one thing or combine them into one thing.

[@user-sr8ru5cr6d]

@@thefutur uuu Photography experimental editorials sound great oh my will do it right now! Thank you for reply, you're wonderful team👏

[@Jak_powiedziec_po_niemiecku]

I need to Say i only pick the videos with Melinda because i see myself in her in A few years from now. Im very unsure about not having any dog cats myself pics on insta🤔🤔 isnt that giving The People some place to have A small talk with us between The #business talk?

[@raboinse]

Congrats Melinda!

[@melindalivsey1]

Thank you Steve!

[@SwarnimArun]

The volume was maxed out when I played the video... with my *HEADPHONES ON* and I almost blew up. :)

[@thefutur]

sorry. really? is it louder than the other videos in this series?

[@micaelsvntos]

First of all, sorry for the off-topic post. But Chris, (and the community) If you had to pick one name for a design agency, which one of these would be the most suitable? • Brantsy • Oazzys • Brandelica • Bravva • Brandva • Brandyva Thank you!

[@JoeShock7777]

Bravva

[@paoloflores0824]

I have a question. i hope someone will answer me. can i post personal projects on behance? like concept designs or ideas?

[@thefutur]

Vidar rising yes. We do.

[@GeorgeMutambuka]

I like how you address the viewers as "internet"🤣

[@thefutur]

the internet wants to know.

[@SlobboVideo]

Damn, that orange pants is lit.

[@FatimaMaria]

That moment Chris turns to the audience 23:20 :')