Honestly the game has issues with its penalty system. Too often trying to race respectfully leads to being cut off, caused to spin and end up getting the penalty with countless numbers of players which leads to a terrible experience unless you play a crap load of races and come across the few good ones.
@ethardoin Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got spun out into a group today and received a 3.5 second penalty plus a 1 sec off track penalty. I just quit lol
@trevorrose622311 ай бұрын
Agreed
@HappyGuitarAmp-pj9rf9 ай бұрын
the amount of times someone has spun off and then rejoins a fast straight in first gear at a 90 degree angle to the track and hits me for me to recieve a 6 second penalty is ridiculous
@Schniebel89 Жыл бұрын
I recommend turning on tracklimits so that you can learn where to cut corners.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Yes mate I thought I mentioned that whoops
@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC Жыл бұрын
If you want to get fast many things can help but the most common issue is people racing with automatic. Manual trans not only helps with speed but helps you control the car, this goes with controller or sim setup. You can downshift before a sharp turn etc. You do need manual
@JubbatheHatt Жыл бұрын
Not neccessrily do you need Manual altho it does help exiting corners as you can shift upto reduce wheelspin but i think same applys for automatic as each bumper is gear shift in auto too 👍
@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC Жыл бұрын
@@JubbatheHatt entering and exiting a corner is faster with a manual. some of us a actually prefer to control the car without assists.
@JubbatheHatt Жыл бұрын
@@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC sorry you cannot make that statement do you want to get sum1 who uses auto to embarress you? Driving relys on many factors you have the braking line on each course for a kick off way more grip than offline then you have set ups n last but not f least driver f ability dont assume were all the same we f aint
@Standgedicht8 ай бұрын
@@JubbatheHatt Manual shifting is way faster and gives you more control. Point. There is no "but" and "if" - it`s just reality.
@JubbatheHatt8 ай бұрын
@@Standgedicht bro idc tbh of course i know manual is overall faster as changing gear takes time so the more you change gear theoretically the more time is lost and as this Forza does not allow manual shifting in auto(old FM let you) then well done you are correct if i had a wheel id use manual and take lumps off my laptimes but i can guarantee you there is someone out there who is as fast either way and auto gears is NOT an assist u doughnut😂😂 people with a wheel have automatic gears(no clutch)
@alehiemstra7496 Жыл бұрын
if you got a race gearbox you only have to shift with clutch if your standing still
@shaneWARs1 Жыл бұрын
If you ask me driving games and especially sim games i think it is way better to grind with the assists off it will only make you better in the long run
@darkstar24809 ай бұрын
I use the breaking line more for gauging speed into and through the corner more than when to break.
@TheBossMan2407 Жыл бұрын
Si when you get to the rear wheel drive cars in the GT series with longer races and powerful cars that require making pit stops half way through race , I’d recommend using sport traction control. Will help a tonne but not hinder you as you’ll find youll still be able to spin out even with tcs
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Thanks pal gonna do some GT3 tonight
@Kaylos29 Жыл бұрын
I think we were in a race together somewhere (SLR Kaylos). The SLR doesn't mean much, old Project Cars 3 group. They have moved onto ACC. Edit: oh crap, I responded before watching the whole video. I have this video saved from my perspective and planned on uploading it, such a close finish. I do use manual with clutch, but you can use Manual with clutch without the clutch on race cars or cars with racing transmissions. Only use the clutch to start (i map it to my wheel). I was also running very low aero, which made the bus stop a bit of a risk to push too hard. I'll link for you when I do.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha hello mate nice race! I thought you have MC and low aero as it was strange you were so slow through the “bus stop” part but quick elsewhere
@killfrontier2372 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to you for having good sportsmanship and a great driver. I'm watching this video after losing race after race wondering why and I don't really know the tracks too well. Insane how you guys fly around that track and know every apex, turn, and time to break. Good battle, boys👌
@GamingInTheFASTLANE Жыл бұрын
I came from acc competizone using wheel but requires to many hours creating set ups for races. Decided to try forza with wheel and manual gears but it felt awful to many settings i was super slow moved to a controller and automatic only assist is abs and i find it much better to play . Not worlds best but do have s saftey rating and about 4700 Currently. Set up of cars make big difference on forza but you can definitely be quick in auto l. The worst part is the penalty system even if your on front row of grid probably be p16 by turn 1. People go for any gap possible even if there isn't one
@deadlydragon2 ай бұрын
Great race at the end there!
@Dave062YT29 күн бұрын
In ACC the line is constant and very bright green and you really need to get rid of it but in FM it's very subtle so I leave it on .
@SpencerDavis10Ай бұрын
Does this rule applies when using a wheel? Does it still have the same effects if the dead zones are eliminated in the steering thanks.
@johngoncalves47389 ай бұрын
Best race I have seen online. I think the other driver got mentally tired or something...great stuff.
@GySgt_USMC_Ret. Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Simon is a much better Forza Motorsport driver than me. I haven't bought it yet. Fair winds and following seas to all.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Thanks matey
@GySgt_USMC_Ret. Жыл бұрын
@@Simonb1471 👍
@Va1nqueur9 ай бұрын
Damn I couldn't understand why other cars beat me on a straight line, it turned out my civic sucks. Thanks.
@Simonb14719 ай бұрын
No problem dude.
@SpencerDavis10Ай бұрын
Love the info on the video. Only correction. Watkins Glen is in New York State, about 300 miles from New York City. Everything else awesome vid.
@Kylethejobber14 күн бұрын
Question when you upgrade your car offline. Dose it Transfer over to online.
@Simonb147114 күн бұрын
Yes as long as it meets the spec for the race
@CatTrashRacing8 ай бұрын
The MC is a game exploit. I have NOT played much rivals at all so I don’t remember damage ever being on but could be wrong. That being said if you use paddle shifting just don’t use the clutch in multiplayer… 🤷🏼♀️ throw it in and don’t use clutch
@The_ZenTex Жыл бұрын
Manual w/Clutch is easy if you have race transmission...don't even have to use the clutch in FM8.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Thanks most people use a wheel as they can keybind it apparently
@The_ZenTex Жыл бұрын
@@Simonb1471 yup...alot of the top times on Forza are controller users. Controllers are usually a little quicker
@MattHealey. Жыл бұрын
It’s the finding the right car tune that’s costin me now. Not sure how to work out how to sort that
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
I have 3 different tunes depending on the track type. I just watched some videos on KZbin myself and refined what works for me
@adyrandom Жыл бұрын
Hey Si….:been a sub for a long time now…….downloaded this yesterday and after a few races saw this vid.,…didn’t know about the advance controller thing involving dead zones so definitely going to set that up like yours here….sounds like a simple but really great tip…..cheers good man.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
No problem mate happy I could help you.
@xfreaker96948 ай бұрын
for me the biggest issue as a begginer is controlling the cars,i playing o a wheel and pedals ,and its so fucking hard,i watched tons of videos of others driving ,they seem to drive even harsher than i am ,but whenever i touch gas a milimeter to much and/or a little bit too early back end always wants to spin the fk out , i never can drive fully confidently because every corner feels almost like a coinflip,it would be WAAAAY more helpful to find a video that gives exact examples of mistakes and how to fix them,maybe i do sound like a scrub but im am really frustrated of that ,things im aware of: 1. if you brake hard and turn,your back will most likely spin out - i try to lower the pressure before turning but back end still want to leave the server 2. dont go full throttle out of corners because your back end will most likely go lose - sometimes i use only like 50-60% of throttle ,and back end still wants to go out on top of all that you gotta watch other players,watch your brake points,watch your lines,on top of all that cars is almost like butter on hot oven,maybe i choose wrong cars idk,awd cars feels better,maybe im only full arcade racing games player
@TheGreatTomDix Жыл бұрын
That was awesome and why this game is awesome!
@Nfnf88910 ай бұрын
I will say playing manual with a steering wheel is way easier than manual with a controller lol. I always used automatic when I use a controller. Tbh play the game however you want. It’s all in good fun.
@connormatthews52210 ай бұрын
any advice for someone trying to shift over to manual? feel alright with everything else but getting the nack for not blowing the engine up is difficult for some reason lol
@Simonb147110 ай бұрын
Practice mate but unless you have mastered the tracks no point unless you have a wheel
@ByteMeDammit11 ай бұрын
That's just crazy you're able to even stay near the lead cars running 0 tune stuff. I just watch the fastest cars absolutely pull away from me in spec races. No turning or braking having come into the equation yet. I often start 8th to 12th and can't maintain even that due to getting rammed off track on the first 1-5 corners. I have finished dead last 75%+ of the races. I have had multiple DNF's due to being lapped by cars that are running as much as 15% faster than i can achieve on the straights. This is my first Forza Motorsport game so I don't really understand the tuning at all.
@IvoJuricic Жыл бұрын
is this on controller or?
@p1rturk59811 ай бұрын
What time zone do you race in?
@kevjames21 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video,some good tips,new subscriber
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kev. I’m new to racing games myself and thought I would share some info which has helped me. Welcome to the channel.
@kevjames21 Жыл бұрын
@@Simonb1471 was a good performance if your new, wouldn't say I'm new but still interested in any info I can get,and definitely interested in more Forza content,I'm quite enjoying it at the moment,I usually play ACC which is a proper SIM,but I'm trying to play Forza as more of an arcade game as can be infuriating when you get rammed on purpose by ten year olds😔
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
@@kevjames21yes I agree, it seems the safety rating makes little difference to the lobbies I get as if I qualify from 3-6 I can’t go round the first corner
@IIMANIXII Жыл бұрын
Heeeeeey! thats me on your Rivals - ive been getting a lot of Top 90+ % lately - on controller - i just bought a G923 logitec Wheel but not sure if im keeping it - my skill points have gone from 4457 to low 3k since using it lol
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Yea I beat you after doing a few laps then I saw you beat me again but I’m too busy grinding my MP rank which is now 4700 S
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
You just have to get used to it mate
@venom90210 Жыл бұрын
insane ending so close
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
A game I’m actually good at 😂
@asdowo111 Жыл бұрын
16:12 "Straight line"
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Straight enough lol
@KevKlopper6 ай бұрын
3:42 I think you meant to say "automatic" right?
@barrackb0325 Жыл бұрын
Why do you drive with that camera view??? In my opinion it is more fun to drive cockpit view. I use a controller too.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
If I use a wheel I go cockpit maye
@mattu5607 Жыл бұрын
How you getting 144 on straights mine is maxed at 137
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Tuned
@mattu5607 Жыл бұрын
Well, definitely do more videos on how to get faster for people like me who have only just got into driving games, there isn't much out there on getting faster laps how to improve corners etc
@p1rturk59811 ай бұрын
Touring cars do not need rear aero. It can also be the gears, you are not using manual, or your controller or wheel is faulty.
@ryandonaldson7302 Жыл бұрын
11 10ths but close enough 😂. Nice drive sir.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@mhmdali1987 Жыл бұрын
Can you improve safety rating if you get bad at first ?
@azeilor6 ай бұрын
Yes you can. You will increase the rating by winning and driving without crashing (clean races).
@dariusshojaei5036 Жыл бұрын
This is the best Lazy Mans Guide to Forza Motorsport
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone has the time to invest. People like myself have kids, a full time job and cannot sit at home all day gaming.
@dariusshojaei5036 Жыл бұрын
I meant it only as a compliment. @@Simonb1471
@Kilson-76 Жыл бұрын
I am not very good and dont win races at all, but my rating is higher than yours. Surely that cant be right
@YoshiExcel Жыл бұрын
You have the full Suggested Line assist on, yet you say if you have both the Throttle and Steering assists on, you might as well not play the game at all lol. Suggested Line assist is pretty much autopilot.
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Complete nonsense.
@shaneweightman9 ай бұрын
Think forza should ghost all cars for the first couple of bends after a race starts , sick of the arses who come steaming down the straight and take most the front runners out , or ghost all the time like qualifying, then the fastest man wins not the arses , cheers shane uk 🇬🇧
@SincerelyYoursLIVE6 ай бұрын
Mate trusss me it’s the worse people just go full speed into the corners to crash you out the way the community on forza is terrible
@matthew9739 Жыл бұрын
I switched all assistance off and found it so hard 😂
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
You’ll get used to it mate
@angrycarebear8631 Жыл бұрын
That’s it you’re now shillb1471
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
How so?
@angrycarebear8631 Жыл бұрын
Just a bit of banter. Made me think of the call of duty shills with “my favourite class setup” etc. Seeing as you’re enjoying this game will you be giving ea wrc a go?
@Hongkongnyc Жыл бұрын
Simon highly recommend you lose that driving line assist - only for the very newest drivers. It really hampers one’s feel for the track.
@Antros2310 ай бұрын
So many wrongs.. like you don't brake and turn? In which world you live.. just Google trail braking..
@Simonb147110 ай бұрын
You can on this game, it’s not a race simulation
@RotNside Жыл бұрын
Manual FTW
@Amplar2Ай бұрын
people use manual w/clutch because you get instant shifts and dont need to use the clutch with a race trans. first forza to do this actually. Also, you are wrong about braking + turning, to be fast in FM you need to trail brake, which is smoothly letting off the brakes as you turn in to unload the rear tires for rotation I don't think you actually know what you're doing
@Simonb1471Ай бұрын
Several top 50 times says otherwise. But hey some random nobody trying to tell me I suck probably just jealous I have an audience
@Ryzen-s6y Жыл бұрын
lets be real, the games shite so far, slow menus, i have been playing fm7, and fh5 and motorsport should of been alot better right, fuck turn 10
@macncheeze8941 Жыл бұрын
I’m enjoying it quite a bit 😂😂😂
@JubbatheHatt Жыл бұрын
Id say the best tip for being better is STOP CRASHING INTO OTHERS PEEPS you will get higher finishes and also a steering wheel will make you better than controller its waay easier to ne smooth controller players lose time as constant adjustments thru corners costs laptime 100% fact you dont need a rig just get a wheel if affordable
@JubbatheHatt Жыл бұрын
Bro i gotta say what you say when your in your race car are mot good advice at all for a start your judging everybody as if you have exactly same set ups then assuming we all have the same standard ability n MC with a steering wheel is f easy id suggest thhorough research before although not bad advice its certainly not good advice trust someone who has 20 000 hrs at least playing Forza since 2002 and gaming since 1980
@Simonb1471 Жыл бұрын
Chill bro it’s a bit of fun not to be taken seriously.