rendering in pen and ink by Guptill helped me so much i cant even express it. Its not just about ink... it is really book that will change the way you think
@amanofnoreputation21643 жыл бұрын
If you want to conscientiously improve your line quality, there are certainly ways of doing that, but it does gradually get better on it's own too. The biggest difference you can make as a beginner is learning to interpolate instead of extrapolate. Exterpolating is where you take a spray and pray attitude, draw a bunch of lines, pick the one that's the closest fit, and then awkwardly erase the ones that don't This is the "feathering" which is such a prevalent problem. Interpolation is actually learning to make the line go where you want it to by mentally plotting it out in advance. Beginners usually think about where the line starts, but aren't very specific about where it's supposed to end up, which forces them to use guesswork. So an easy fix is to lightly place a dot where the line i supposed to go before drawing it. The same can be done even with complex contours by simply adding more dots and joining them up. If one dot still doesn't get the line in the right place, draw another one in the middle closer to where the line starts. Making a connect the dots puzzle to produce art sounds ridiculous but it does hit the nail on the head when it comes to the feathering problem. It's like using the pen tool in Photoshop.
@user-qr5jr3uo5c3 жыл бұрын
It took me 1.5 years to come up with the same idea (yes, I'm a bit slow)
@pauljerome012 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, it makes the peterhan stuff make more sense
@tejeraillustrator38102 жыл бұрын
Thats a great way of explaining it. Thank you!
@hommeburgersupreme11 ай бұрын
thank you for this extremely helpful comment! 🙂
@Liliphant_5 ай бұрын
I will go from searching lines all over my page to searching dots all over my page
@artsyen21033 жыл бұрын
4:28 Study from Jeff Watts Line Quality 5:35 "There are musicians who imitate and study their favourite musicians" 5:56: Great draftsmen to study from: Jacob De Gheyn II, Guercino, Albrecht Durer, John Tenniel, Beatrix Potter
@jacobpolansky80964 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I found Rendering in Pen and Ink for $2.99 in my antique store, and I’ve been getting ready to go over it.
@jackiehonda Жыл бұрын
Marshall: "Just imitate a bunch of their lines [artists you admire] until you feel like you own it, then move on to the next one..." Couldn't agree more. Thank you, guys!
@vealgangains63144 жыл бұрын
I love the pain recommendation I do this myself and I recently have taken up silver and metal point where you also have to be precise with lines
@onimanga51974 жыл бұрын
Man ive seen all of draftsman twice and i still watch these clips when you post them 💕
@neilcanta13024 жыл бұрын
We do the same thing haha
@vernonadams15363 жыл бұрын
Prefect analogy Marshall, that's exactly what I was thinking then you said it. You put scales into context and create instead of just mindless scales up and down the registry.
@nochipmunks86922 жыл бұрын
The book Marshall recommended is just amazing,what a great person you are Marshall
@moeykaner14 жыл бұрын
I'd also recommend the new Book: 'Framed Drawing Techniques: Mastering Ballpoint Pen, Graphite Pencil, and Digital Tools for Visual Storytelling' by Marcos Mateus-Metre
@equesdeventusoccasus3 жыл бұрын
I am a disabled artist and using my entire arm for drawing is not a possibility for me. That being said, I do not have a problem drawing straight lines using wrist only. I usually draw very slowly which causes no issues with my line quality, and even improves my straight lines. It makes no discernable difference in my curved lines. It makes no difference between circles, ovals, ellipses, squares or triangles. On extremely long lines, because I am methodical in lifting my pen from the paper, I can reposition paper or my arm, pick up the line where I left off without a detectable stop / start point. As with any other style of drawing, it just takes practice. Advice such as you must use your whole arm if you want to draw a circle is bad advice for anyone who has a disability that involves the shoulder or the neck. There are other methods that work equally well for those who either by necessity or choice keep their wing tucked in and not flapping about as if they are ready to fly.
@okitasan4 жыл бұрын
I feel lucky to have studied under both Jeff Watts and Stan. Life-changing experience going to the Atelier
@crazyfly55054 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Guptill's book is on archive.
@sketchartist19643 жыл бұрын
I agonized for years trying to learn how to get the interesting line quality that I saw in old master drawings. I think the best way to learn it is by copying their drawings as best one can then try to apply what one learns in ones own drawings. I think some of the best books on the topic are those by Robert Beverly Hale.
@pjlewisful4 жыл бұрын
I love you 2 together. It makes learning so fun.
@anthonyj7194 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the next season!!
@handyboy41784 жыл бұрын
It has been 2 months already? Time flies.
@BrianMarcWhittaker2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m going to apply it to my work and share it with my students.
@shadowyes32494 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!! Now I can try improving my lines Thx draftsmen
@imnooneh Жыл бұрын
it would be so cool stan if you and marshall did an episode just drawing, talking about the process. i've never asked for anything 😀
@Straight_to_dust3 жыл бұрын
Best art podcast on the internet!
@Sewius4 жыл бұрын
We are the art students, your style will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
@blissaethetic2 жыл бұрын
now, let us prepare ourselves with an inking pen, paper and some ink
@MCUPW4 жыл бұрын
Great show, guys! Heard about it a while ago, now I am a regular here.
@SW122344 жыл бұрын
I find this very helpful! Thanks a lot!
@LetitiaCollins4 жыл бұрын
Where can we get a Proko shirt? Love it!
@Draftsmen4 жыл бұрын
You can get one here - kzbin.infostore
@James-ip7zk4 жыл бұрын
Does Jeffrey Watts have books about drawing/illustration? Like those examples in the video?
@seanramsey4 жыл бұрын
Not sure about a book, but he does have a KZbin Channel.
@afuras25342 жыл бұрын
Do you think conscious tracing helps with line quality since your just focusing on the lines rather than having to worry about other stuff like proportion or anatomy?
@yofu29694 жыл бұрын
Thank you fathers-
@Joel-wj2gi3 жыл бұрын
Marshall sounds like space ghost haha
@carlocatalano96623 жыл бұрын
Check out Urs Graf too.
@thekevinjustice4 жыл бұрын
what is name and book referenced at the 1:35 mark? Thanks!
@PuppetMaster87072 жыл бұрын
I draw with my wrist a lot and I just move the paper around to get a straighter line
@karldarwin12534 жыл бұрын
agh i tought it is a full new draftsmen
@jichaelmorgan37964 ай бұрын
Try large print calligraphy
@zack494 жыл бұрын
I thought the first hashtag said inequality for a sec. Stan and Marshall talking politics?I was so confused
@xcreenplay72643 жыл бұрын
1:08 I still do this 😔😔😔 but I'm learning to break the habit
@joevenuspermana60023 жыл бұрын
Who artist have same style sketch as guercino?
@alonsoesponda10554 жыл бұрын
Who,s artwork are the drawings of the thumbnail of?
@Draftsmen4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Watts
@benjilacoustra62714 жыл бұрын
@@Draftsmen Oh... It looks like Charles Dana Gibson's art. I thought it was from his work. Thank you both for sharing your knowledge, btw.
@elcapitan5493 жыл бұрын
Hobbyist here. The day I become a maven I will have you to thank.
@MOOEMAN4 жыл бұрын
what helps me with line variation is holding my pencil sideways, then when i want fine lines i hold it upright
@greennature10453 жыл бұрын
nice :)
@joevenuspermana60023 жыл бұрын
Do you know other artist just like Guerchino?
@chyra4514 жыл бұрын
Ay
@johnmanole47792 жыл бұрын
One problem with me is that my lines always look dirty...
@winandnikolatesla20213 жыл бұрын
5:55
@sungazer32 жыл бұрын
Try writing the N word over and over again. Worked for me.
@ovn_tamil Жыл бұрын
💀
@Pumkim-stewАй бұрын
Wait did writing words really help?
@theunassumnglocalguy54413 жыл бұрын
I found using a g nib dip pen and ink the most helpful to practice with. It's very unforgiving because it requires your angle and pressure to be consitant to achieve line weight and quality. But once it starts to click, its super satisfying.