We used to do this with the old vhs camcorders when we were kids. We didn't have editing capabilities, just the record button. This video reminded me of those days! Super fun!
@JevenDovey4 жыл бұрын
Love this! I learned to shoot on my parents HI 8 camcorder with this method. Start Stop and no editing. Made tons of films as a kid and didn't start editing till well into highschool when I took a filmmaking class.
@tylerdahms29864 жыл бұрын
I've been a news camera op for almost 3 years, but I learnt what you're talking about in the first 2 weeks on the job, as I had to also edit my own stuff. It is amazing the drastic change that's made when you're shooting for the edit. P.S You're an inspiration.
@Emiliotakas4 жыл бұрын
Its so amazing that someone can watch your videos, and in a video like this one in 20 minutes can learn information worth of a whole seminar or a workshop. You are truly amazing Philip and thanks for being on youtube and sharing the "golden" knowledge you have inside your mind.
@TimYemmax4 жыл бұрын
One of the most valuable channels on youtube if it comes to cinematography in my opinion. I'm ever doing shotlists for my work. And I'm really a fan of your work, as always: great!
@4xoverland4 жыл бұрын
I started my career editing 35mm on Moviolas, cutting commercials where they would shoot ridiculous ratios. Two or three hours of rushes for a 30-second spot, often hand syncronised. I was advised that by beginning my film career by first learning editing would be an excellent way of learning how film works. And I think they were right. But I love this idea, of editing in-camera.
@CarlOlsonArt4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, Phillip! This is why I’ve followed your work for over 10 years... thank you!
@AndreasQuandt19744 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Philip. That is exactly one of our starting practises at our school teaching filming and editing. At first, there is a lot of complaining from the students. Most of them are footage horders. But at the end they have learned a lot about storytelling, planing sequences and getting the shots they realy need. Thumbs up!
@surrogatemarker4 жыл бұрын
What's really cool is that Philip had to perform "in-camera edits" with another camera that was "filming" Philip.. giving a tutorial .. on how to do in-camera edits..
@HannaKaa4 жыл бұрын
I just love your content. Thank you for posting the best videos on KZbin about cinematography.
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
International Departures thank you :)
@matthewnewton60473 жыл бұрын
The best!!!
@mndoci3 жыл бұрын
I think I understood more in this video than in anything I’ve seen. Really helps thinking about how to put a sequence together.
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
How have until this Friday 1st May 8pm UK time to enter! 🙂 HERE ARE THE RULES AND GUIDELINES: NO editing of any kind. Shoot in sequence. NO retakes, so practice! PLEASE NO CHEATING as you are only cheating yourself! Length 30-45 seconds. It would also be great if you could include a tidied up version after your raw edit in-camera version like I did in this video. Good luck!
@MrNEWLAND664 жыл бұрын
Ok So also include a fully edited version of the same footage afterwards? Just exported my in camera edit version and noticed this comment. If so should i be at the end of the same video or as a separate video? I've also just noticed in the updated guidelines that you've stipulated 45 seconds max. I filmed mine before seeing that and have 1.31 of footage. I can make it shorter but only if I delete stuff.
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
Tomos Newland-Jones best if it’s ones video. Be good to see before and after.
@MrNEWLAND664 жыл бұрын
@@philipbloom OK thanks. Couple of other questions to make she its all done alright. Will the longer video be an issue? I filmed mine before seeing the rule that it should be 45 seconds max. Came out 1.31. I can delete some clip but not sure thats in the spirit of the challenge. Finally can we actually trim the clips for the edited version? Thanks
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
Tomos Newland-Jones I want to keep them to a shorter length so I can show more in the follow up video but don’t worry about it now you’ve done it
@MrNEWLAND664 жыл бұрын
@@philipbloom Ok Thanks. Exporting now
@tchlin4 жыл бұрын
Without ever seeing this video I shot just like this today. Haven't even looked at the videos yet. Great advice Philip. Going to practice it more.
@RaymondToms4 жыл бұрын
Hi Philip. An excellent episode. Great advice. I have often had to effectively edit in camera when filming events over which I have no control, but may sometimes have the luxury of dual cameras to give me alternative shots. News stories, sport, concerts, a non-repeatable sequence in a doco. Your advice on shot lists is so true. Also helps you to plan setups efficiently when shooting out of sequence (i.e. Edit out of camera). A bonus in this lesson, was observing a director at work. Getting the shot off of Paper and into your head. Importance of rehearsal, both for the talent an the equipment operators - camera, focus, sound, light, props. Then conveying the key actions to the talent in simple terms. Explaining at what point the camera will be running and stopping. Great job overall.
@strongislanduk4 жыл бұрын
Really useful reminder to keep things simple. First films I made were 20ish minute long skateboard videos that we edited up with two VCRs. e would have notebooks filled with the tricks, the tape number and timecode, then edit roughly on paper each skater's part. Then you would edit and you got ninja skills with the little plastic buttons on the VCRs really quickly (didn't use the remotes due to their inconsistency).
@paul.thomas4 жыл бұрын
What a seriously useful video. I was trained by the BBC many years ago as a Camera Op and had forgotten most of what I was taught - including shoot to edit. Please could you do some more videos - so I can remember what else I have forgotten.
@stephenscrivens4 жыл бұрын
This is something that I definitely have to try. Going to force me to plan everything instead of waiting until the editing process to actually fill in any possible gaps. And filming in sequence isn't one of my greatest strengths either. So much thinking has to go into this!
@InteractiveDNA4 жыл бұрын
Philip Bloom you are giving the best tip any filmmaker can get! Editing starts on camera and if you can not do that, you are in the wrong business. Period! And if you do not film, teach the videographer how to film, cause 99% of them are waiting for the editor's ideas and how things will flow. Most of the people that I helped are now working in Hollywood or in big productions companies. I told them use my rules of cinematographic every time you will never miss a single shot for editing. My Rules are: 1. Rule number one: Always place the eyes of the subject between the points 3 or 4. No matter how close or far the subject is. Human always look at point 3 first. 2. Everything you are filming or taking photos have eyes on them. If you are filming or taking photos of a object or nature add imaginary eyes on them. 3. Always provide BIG empty space to the direction the subject is traveling to or the direction of the eyes is looking at. If the subject is traveling from left to right (give empty space to the right, by placing the eyes on the 1 or 3 golden point or inside the Rules Of Thirds 1 and 3. Same goes traveling Right to left, so the eyes should be on the 2 or 4 golden point or Rules of third 2 or 4. Remember that everything in live has eyes one them. so use your imagination to where to place the eyes on objects and nature that does not have eyes on them Example: If you filming or taking picture of a beer, where on the beer bottle you would glue an imaginary eyes on it so you can place the beer on the right place of the Golden Rule or Rule of Thirds. 4. Never take photos as picture that will go into a picture frame. Photography days are over and belong to the past. Always take pictures if you are filming. Think like this... what if this picture will show up on TV or a any video? so... always take picture is a format like 16x9 or 9x16, never 4:3 format cause you are limiting your self to the entire world of possibilities and we are just entering the video revolution. And if you do video editing, when you take picture or film, think like an editor and when you are editing think like an videographer. Everything in live have eyes on them and they are always in motion. The key for great filming and super faster editing is by follow ( Never film anything over 15 second in with you will trim to get 1/2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... anything longer then 6 seconds a miracle has to be going on the clip). After you film, editing them first on a story board format before you go the timeline. Lay down the audio track first and get the automatic beat from is and slide them where you want to use music. You should edit a very professional video in less the 30 minutes. Another way to edit super super fast is by using two or more cameras. 4 cameras the best! And you use the muti-camera function of the editing in real time. You edit in real time and your job is about 95% done. There are many ways to film and edit, but when you film like a videographer you are filming wrong to start with. You must only press the record buttons if you think that what you are doing is going to edit well aftermath. And when you are editing you are now thinking as a videographer. If you don't do this, your best hope is tons of b-rs to fill the caps. And another big one!!! Every scene you film must have beginning, middle and ending. It does not matter what you film, when or where, you must press the record buttons 3 times or more to capture the moment in time. Filming is not taking still photography. Filming is giving each scene a soul and state of mind. Think like this: When you see a very very beautiful woman for the first time up and close.... your mind gets the picture by 3. By 3 times... clip one (wow wide shot) clip two (mid-shot), clip 3 (close up is good!!!) see, you got the scene... you 3 shots/clips you told a story. So every scene must have a complete story to make the editing process easy with a professional outcome.
@nauman66864 жыл бұрын
I adore you! Thanks to KZbin we can learn such fantastic tips from a legend.
@sixfoot6films4 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea Phillip! Back when I was a JrBurger filmmaker (mid 90's) I used to enter a film comp called "White Gloves" (in Aust); You had 1 weekend to film 1 canister of S-8 (3mins), so shot in order & no retakes. You handed the exposed film to the organisers then they would process it and every film got screened on the night. Such a good learning process.....and so much fun!
@franktothemax3 жыл бұрын
You're an incredible gem of a human Philip. I appreciate your advice, your education style, your lighthearted approach, all of it. Thank you for doing what you do my friend.
@1stElement4 жыл бұрын
Philip Bloom you are, quite simply, brilliant. Thank you.
@silversulu4 жыл бұрын
So helpful to provide creative restrictions a a channel to better filmmaking. Thanks for this.
@AdamPhillips4 жыл бұрын
YES! I know I need to work on my shots lists especially now that I can film in 4K DCI and 5.5K Raw I can't imagine the excess space I might waste without a shot list or a script of some form. Super stoked to try this out! love the challenge!
@alsteiner76024 жыл бұрын
HEY!!! I LOVE THE SLR MAGIC 35MM CINE! such a vintage look for video
@TheSaturnCinema4 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate your insight and how-to delivery in your videos, Philip. Your approach to making these videos is very informative and contains such a great story telling element that makes your videos so enjoyable. I'm excited to subscribe and enjoy more of your past, current, and future content! Thank you!
@proteus14 жыл бұрын
I used to have a jvc vhs black and white camera. Full size tapes. I filmed skateboarding back in the 80's, never knew what you were going to get.
@JasonMcLemore4 жыл бұрын
This is great! I'm like this with my photography. Even all these years later as an adult, I don't ride the shutter. When I was a kid, my parents bought me a certain amount of film and that was all I had. So I was selective with what I shot. I'm like that with digital. I just don't want to cull through thousands of photos. I'm trying to incorporate this with my video work now.
@anducao4 жыл бұрын
one of the best filmmaking learning video in youtube. I take the exercise!!
@richarddzisiewski71973 жыл бұрын
I started as a cameraman at around the same time as you and seem to remember learning camera basics and then straight on to editing on a 3 machine edit suite as I would learn more about what an editor needs as opposed to what a cameraman 'thinks' an editor needs...and it worked. I still hate editing thou!!
@MassimoCastelli4 жыл бұрын
This is so important. Even on the run-and-gun documentary stuff I mostly work on I try o shoot for the edit - but it's still so easy to end up with too much footage.
@J3llo34 жыл бұрын
I concur. The initial part is always the hardest , great work
@tsOnMedia4 жыл бұрын
Great challenge Philip. It reminds me of the NPPA workshops here in the US. I attended their week long TV News workshop in 1990 and I learned more about telling a visual story in those 6 days than i ever did in college. Love your stuff - keep up the good work!
@jameslloyd-stuart9754 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across this Channel. It’s like finding a secret door to the pleasure room. Awsome content. New sub here
@flameemperor8884 жыл бұрын
One of the best 22 minutes of my life. I have learned a lot thank you so much and keep safe.
@chrisw4434 жыл бұрын
This is how i learned to shoot, in fact when I am shooting quick turnaround stuff I still loosely shoot like this, Reminds me of the good ol VHS and early DV days! Childhood right here. Very nice.
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
chrisw443 lets see what you can do! :)
@chrisw4432 жыл бұрын
@@philipbloom I completely forgot about this until now. How funny. I am eyeing a couple of "old" Varicams on ebay for a few hundred bucks. Might grab one, for fun!
@jennifermedia62884 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna try this. Great challenge for me Philip.
@klaqua3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for inspiring me and get me over the hump! So many things you said resonated!
@brianesquinas4 жыл бұрын
Your wood carver shoot was my inspiration for my Documentary for my Thesis! and my professor liked it a lot :D
@motionsick4 жыл бұрын
This takes me back to film school. Thanks Mr. Bloom.
@RichardsWorld4 жыл бұрын
I like that Straight 8 idea. I think I'll challenge some of my friends.
@devtank4 жыл бұрын
Ha! I love it. I still shoot to edit, even with an Atomos Ninja V+ 1tb SSD. I learned on 16mm (in Dublin), about 25 years ago -Video was available at the time, but I went to FILM school. I dont even remember what the camera was I think maybe an Aaton or an Arri. Later Id go on to work on Hollywood features that came to Ireland. Thems were fun days!
@SynthBritannia4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to see this because that's how we do it in JukeTrain channel. On the train we have no time for reshoots, we either get it, or we don't :D
@yetanotherfilmchannel57664 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this recently too. I had a script before hand so I was able to map out the whole edit and I made a shot list and I was like ok this all im getting and it ended up being my best video.
@manfredneugebauer72464 жыл бұрын
I can still very well remember the time when the "Virus" film caught me. Back then with Super8 film! The material was expensive and you couldn't just film it. And that's exactly what I think today! Thank you for your inspiring video.
@AmritaBhortake4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this helpful tutorial. I am going to try these tips out for my next video.
@chrispennarts40854 жыл бұрын
Erg leuk. Mooi gedaan. Scheelt veel tijd. En de edit na afloop is ook makkelijker. Dank.
@AspectStudio4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I mean let's face it, I could really use the help...
@jasonlomeda3154 жыл бұрын
I just did one for fun. Damn, that was challenging and helpful (but too long). Love this challenge, hope there's more!
@skyphysicaltherapy32702 жыл бұрын
Appreciated this lesson very much!
@McCoolMedia4 жыл бұрын
love love LOVE this and the forced creativity out of limitations it promotes.. new (old?) ways of thinking and shooting are always a fun exercise! :clap:
@johnfreeman88704 жыл бұрын
Great video Philip! I just want to remind you that youtube sometimes auto-bans comments with links in them, because it thinks they are spam. You can of course still see them in the KZbin Studio. You probably already thought of this but I just wanted to remind you so all participants get their chance! Great challenge btw!
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
The irony is links have not been spammed but your comment was put into spam by TY!
@ReefPatrol4 жыл бұрын
he strikes one again
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
How have until this Friday 1st May 8pm UK time to enter! 🙂
@arthurkallinen4 жыл бұрын
Aargh, didn't see this comment so I just counted 3 weeks exactly from your video publish, entered it now, I guess it is now late :( I already had to rush it since I just forgot about this
@MrrAlien4 жыл бұрын
Straight game changer I'm gonna start doing this!
@JaaksFilm4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. On it, i may even do it as soon as tonight.
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
Jaaks Film good luck!
@27chaz4 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm in. 20 years ago I had to shoot in camera edits for a wedding company using a Sony VX-2000. I just got to figure out what to do now 😂. If anything it will be fun.
@bradcoetzee4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tips! Shot list is essential, I'd add marking time code as well if cameras are capable. Helps speed up rough cuts of long interviews and other key moments.
@HeavySpiral4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, I am more of a shoot for 1 hour of everything and edit for 30 hours kind of guy. I think it builds character.... seriously thought I think thats the push I needed to polish up my skills... I have nothing better to do anyways so better use this time to improve. Thanks Mr. Philip Bloom. P. S. I guess we wont get a new Skiathos video this summer :( since the travel restrictions that I've read about would not allow for it.
@myjestesmyza4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was waiting for a valuable content like this for a long time
@shlamhabor4 жыл бұрын
thank you Philip! you are a really great dude! a lot of new filmmaker see you as an really gooooooood teacher! don't stop!
@TommyCallaway4 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video. Thank Phillip!
@AaronFilmsStuff4 жыл бұрын
Pro tips from a pro! Love it man!!! I have been practicing some of this ideology myself. I make shot lists for almost everything and make storyboards for some. I never thought about shooting with the mindset of editing in the camera, that’s a great way to think about it! Thanks for the tips, keep them coming!
@OMNIFICPICTURES3 жыл бұрын
I love this challenge.
@Newt2113 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how he is such an engaging individual to watch and listen to. It is like I am unable to turn away and have to hear every word he says. Was this something you worked Philip on, or are you al'natural?
@talonsix4 жыл бұрын
Using this technique for real estate videos has saved me SO much time in the edit. Unfortunately I lose that time trying to find music, but oh well. Fantastic work as always - keep it up Philip!
@DatrysiadMedia4 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow night I was actually going to film a 2 min short so this has come at the perfect time.
@murtts4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It is extremely helpful and very inspiring. 👍
@NABDAART4 жыл бұрын
exactly!! i recently filmed a documentary,,, i only went home with 10 hours of footage (Whereas i couldve easily have filmed 50 or more) .. the edit was smooth a.f and the result was exactly the story we wanted to tell.... as werner herzod said '' we are filmmakers, not gargabe collecters'' (nothing wrong with being a garbade collector)
@Fuzzmistro4 жыл бұрын
YASSSSSSS!!! I THINK I WILL TRY THIS. THANKS SIR BLOOM.
@flameemperor8884 жыл бұрын
Mr. Philip I hope you could share us some information regarding on how you approach color grading and color correction thank you.
@MilNik473 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip!
@TonySU4 жыл бұрын
philip its not the editing program or processes its just your review are very very good detailed.
@StellerJayFilms4 жыл бұрын
I came for the tutorial but fell in love with the cats. As always a masterclass on music and the true importance of how it should be used in videos. I would like to add I love using Pleasant Pictures Music Club, just 2 composers with quality sounds.
@scottmorgason4 жыл бұрын
Love the exercise and the work that went into this video itself. I am so glad that you made the film making series. My next big purchase. ( as long as I can sneak this past the wifey.)
@Weird_Quests4 жыл бұрын
Love your work - always have! Thank you for commenting before on my question about the Fuji X-T3, I’ll be moving over to Sony soon for the fine reasons you stated. Just need my workflow to get a little neater and easier and I’ll be laughing.
@Weird_Quests4 жыл бұрын
One thing I would ask - I have a ninja V - I’ve seen Gerald Undone’s tests of using one with a Sony camera (comparing 420 with 422) and I’m wondering what your thoughts are on using one with a Sony such as the a7 iii or a7 r iv?
@Weird_Quests4 жыл бұрын
Also, (sorry about all the questions, I know your super busy), I’m going to pick up the FE 35 1.8 and the FE 55 1.8 and also want to start building proper MF set too - how do you find the SLR magic microprimes?
@FirdausMahadi4 жыл бұрын
Hey Philip, here is my In-Camera Edit video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZW4ZXiYoNusaKM . Feel free to ask me any any questions. Stay Safe!
@JjCoronet3 жыл бұрын
Have you come across the Clapper app it’s like TikTok but you get 3 minutes of filming time, you can either stop start video or upload a 3 minute video. Being force to make video in a short space of time can bring out interesting results because you are forced to summarise like Twitter
@TallBoyGareth14 жыл бұрын
Really great well made film 👏🏻 it’s made me think about my own filmmaking style and how to make the process faster
@tariqalexanderwaheed4764 жыл бұрын
How great this is😃 The strange thing is that I just started to shot a little sequence of me doing stuff in the cellar last week. Just for practice in these days. And I used the in camera edit.
@karledwards4 жыл бұрын
Love this one. Thanks Phillip!
@OMNIFICPICTURES3 жыл бұрын
I love this challenge bruva!
@alexandrehammoudi42984 жыл бұрын
Sir you are a visual bible and national treasure thanks for sharing
@RuslanGolenkovPhotography4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for something like that from you, will give it a try 👍
@AllThingsFilm14 жыл бұрын
I purchased your "Filmmaking For Photographers" about a week ago. I figured this is the perfect time - having lots of time - to watch the training all the way through. I will be watching #5 after this! Great training, by the way. (Not sponsored comment). With social distancing as it is, I will have to look into getting a remote trigger for my BMPCC4K as I will be shooting alone for this challenge.
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
VFX Todd thanks!
@AldenMorgan4 жыл бұрын
Good one, Philip! Great technique.
@MagnetiqLabs4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for inspiration Philip!
@Ahmerq4 жыл бұрын
I have the same relationship with editing! Though I am primarily a video editor so I dont have much of a choice in what is given to me.
@pudsboi52034 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful to me. Thank you
@JordanThomasmedia4 жыл бұрын
Hey Philip! This looks like a great way to get better at editing. Also appreciate you going through a version of this. I want to take part in the challenge, however I'm not fully clear on the rules. Would you mind dropping an additional line or two in the description? This way we are all clear on the guidelines and the length that you are willing to watch. Thanks in advance!
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Thomas hi Jordan. What would you like me to write in the rules that you are unclear about? It’s simple; shoot a sequence of something, every shot has to be used, no retakes, no editing.
@JordanThomasmedia4 жыл бұрын
Philip Bloom thanks for responding. I was just unclear on the overall length, but I was able to hop over to super 8’s site and got more of a feel for it. Like the challenge and will be working on something this week 👍🏽
@premiumparis4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip ! Very useful
@dominicstonekaiser91614 жыл бұрын
Thanks, sir absolutely on point! Cheers.
@DickensonBen4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea! I'll give it a go this week. Really glad that I came across your channel today (via a Gerald Undone video).
@dariusryankadem4 жыл бұрын
After a long winter and a weird spring, summer has finally arrived in Britain. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6G6loV3rt19iNU Cheers Philip, thankfully making this film didn't harm my marriage nor Kaori's trust in me. yet! Both women are content with the cut.
@marisilme4 жыл бұрын
It was good fun!
@Weird_Quests4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant content as always!
@Weird_Quests4 жыл бұрын
Also, gotta day that your talking head shots in this look sharp! This on the 24 or 35 prime lens by chance?
@DA_Fuller4 жыл бұрын
Love love love!
@robulko11213 жыл бұрын
Lovely!! As always.
@ShaneFredrickKinsman4 жыл бұрын
Well done Philip
@jankitanoff4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thank you Philip!
@alantuttphotography4 жыл бұрын
Does your course cover the thought process involved in making a shot list? This is where I think I have the most difficulty -- deciding what shots need to be in the final piece.