Before watching this video I was debating spending up to $1500 for a new garage door installation. My main concern was for my own safety, this video definitely makes it clear to me I am capable. Thank you very much This Old House! My grandpa loved your show when he was alive and now I also appreciate it
@AbigailPriceTV8 ай бұрын
I was like saying the same thing. If you know you know!
@BayouHotBoy16 ай бұрын
$1500? That's nothing.
@raymonds.90216 ай бұрын
@@BayouHotBoy1 Okay rich guy
@raymonds.90216 ай бұрын
@@BayouHotBoy1 Privelage
@thenerdguy1234 ай бұрын
@@BayouHotBoy1 Not sure why people are hating on your comment. You can easily spend 2-5k per door, depending on the quality/insulation/style/etc.
@michaelmiranda46154 жыл бұрын
I really want for you to know that watching these videos literally have changed my life. With everything that is going on these days. I really just can't explain how important it is to me that when ever I dont completely understand something. I can come home, watch a couple episodes of this old house and not only improve my handyman skills. But as of late I have felt comfortable enough to call myself a carpenter. Only once or twice, but still. I mean I learned floating shelve, charged 50 a pop. 100 for stained. That episode on how to repair a sagging deck. GOD, IF I ONLY had see that video when I was living in P.A I would have cleaned up hard. Especially is the poconos.
@simplytrueyou92022 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of This Old House for probably 35 years. While these videos are great, they are not exactly step by step. They are not novice quality videos that explain every single thing that you should know about a garage door installation. They are helpful when you already have a good handle on what you are doing and you are checking for a certain part in the process where you need some guidance. I needed some extension spring information for an older used door install, and found it here. Not everyone has a torsion bar system on every single door, so we need to know both systems. I am glad they showed extension spring installation.
@dereksoderstrom549 жыл бұрын
I've been in the door business over 20 years and although this isn't the way I would install a Garage Door it's still perfectly fine example of a good installation. for you youngsters that are going back and forth about who can install a door the fastest one day you will learn it's not about speed but the quality of work and whether or not you're getting call backs.
@leathercheerio17 жыл бұрын
Derek Soderstrom it's all about speed. Nobody makes money when it takes you all friggin day. You take too much pride in your work..its a damn garage door for christs sake.
@roxannetallack40586 жыл бұрын
Derek Soderstrom kid
@cstone93646 жыл бұрын
Speed is key as well as quality. Sections are a breeze. For example ur track should be set on a 10 ft wide door at 10'5" the door is hardwared on the ground then u set a track set the bottom set ur other track level door, stack set top of track throw up horizontals headplates then spring line then top section wind springs throw it up 2 and a half sections back hang and ur done! Cake work. It gets heavy when u do full view window panels. I do commercial. This is smaller and quicker. Hardware on ground leave one side of track loose but screwed to wall and u can pop the rollers in easily. Dont use these springs they're horrible. U have enough room for a headplates and a spring line do it. But rolling steel is the way to go!
@billyandjohnny77346 жыл бұрын
Derek Soderstrom o
@alialhusani89656 жыл бұрын
Derek Soderstrom I liked
@tacomsal5 жыл бұрын
Just checking my homeowners garage door fix. It worked. Thank you saved $250.
@bassetwrangler5 жыл бұрын
Tom should have described the numbering system on the hinges as they relate to the door sections. The door sections are numbered and installed in ascending order. The bottom section with the floor seal is section 1. The left and right hinges hold the rollers at an increasing distance from the door section on each successive section to accommodate the slope away from the wall of the vertical door track. Center hinges (which don't have rollers and whose number vary based on the width of the sections) on all sections are labeled "1". The left and right hinges between sections 1 & 2 of a four-section door are labeled with a "1". Between 2 & 3 labeled "2" and so on based on the number of sections.
@tobormaxАй бұрын
God bless you This Old House. I have never seen home improvement guides that are easier to understand than these.
@PeterGlazewski5 жыл бұрын
I am a home improvement contractor since 1984. Tom and This Old House, are the best. Great shows, and information always.
@cooldog605 жыл бұрын
What do you do when the door hits the roof on one end when you try to open it?
@garthcarrier6 жыл бұрын
im at this job for over 30 years. they are not pros at doing garage doors. but they have a big ass noledge off houses. great job .
@TheBenjammin Жыл бұрын
You are not a pro at spelling .
@raofthesun75584 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing this 10 years now, started at 30. And I must say… not everything I would do, but that the interesting thing about this trade. I’ve seen so many styles of installations when I replace full doors and this is definitely one I run into that I am not like haha. Great job, but I would love to have a garage door installation competition. I think I’ve learned from many skilled workers and have a great formula.
@timwilson31909 жыл бұрын
I have been installing garage doors for 15 years and running my own company for 5. I am puzzled by the negative comments. Garage door guys do tend to be bitter and angry most of the time so I'm sure it's just knowitall door jerks. Overall it was a good install of a basic steel door.
@lowerf0_rtyei8ht927 жыл бұрын
Tim Wilson Why do they tend to be bitter?
@NWinnVR7 жыл бұрын
Maybe because it's hard to _endoor_ all the door puns...
@daddybear70626 жыл бұрын
After 24yrs everyday is doorjavoo
@5eyes12946 жыл бұрын
I know this comment is old.....However, one crucial part was left out. This Old House is assuming the slab is dead level, which I'm sure it is not. The top of the lower tracks need to be dead on level from right to left or the cables will spool up uneven from one side to the other causing the door to ascend and descend crooked, causing noise and wear. After the bottom panel is put against the opening, it needs to be leveled, and reference marks need to be applied to the rough opening to assure the lower tracks are level from one side to the other before fastening them. Never set the lower tracks on the slaband assume it is level. EVER!
@researchandbuild17516 жыл бұрын
Must be why the guy that repaired my door spring seemed irrirated he had to show up at all
@rikmuao46997 жыл бұрын
I haven't installed a res door in years. I'm strictly commercial overhead doors. This is not a bad video. It's pretty simple.
@JohnnyEla Жыл бұрын
Nylon rollers, great choice. Very quiet. Those door sections are actually really heavy but well worth the install.
@Jim-oo7dk9 ай бұрын
That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life.
@slade01gaming596 жыл бұрын
I don’t actually have a garage I just enjoy watching these episodes
@aaronbays45 жыл бұрын
IMO that is a job you hire out. Also installing a well sealed, insulated garage door makes a huge difference in the energy efficiency of your house. Here in the south, the "basement" hangout for the kids/teenagers is the rec room/bonus room over the garage. I know after my parents installed well insulated/weather tight garage doors back in the late 90's, the temps in that room above the garage were warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer by a few degrees. Don't know how much, but you could tell a difference after installing those air tight/insulated garage doors in the room above the garage.
@davidjacobs85585 жыл бұрын
probably so. I'm pretty sure most garage door makers don't sell garage doors to consumers directly.
@556suppressor3 жыл бұрын
Except Home Depot and Lowes sell direct.
@KingCaravaggio9 жыл бұрын
a part of this video that may confuse people is the assumption that the door/floor is level, which is why he is simply ensuring the vertical track has even spacing, although it's not necessarily true in all cases, specifically if your floor is strangely out of whack like mine is. (level under the door but out of level where the track sits on the ground.) best thing to do is ensure the track is plumb without making assumptions about width from door. while that may work for 99 percent of cases it's good to check regardless.
@jerzeedivr5 жыл бұрын
I like your install better then Clopays Doors because they stack doors with temp. nails bent over then attack side rail.Your way is Safer!
@Aaronlee835 жыл бұрын
I’ve just started a job installing overhead garage doors. I love it. It’s not that hard and it’s a good learning experience. I hate the extension spring doors. Pay the extra money and get a motor with belt drive.
@dalesworld13083 жыл бұрын
You still need a spring to balance the weight of the door.
@RussSchampers2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with Dale. Springs are absolutely required especially if you buy a motorized lift. If you install a lift without springs you're going to burn out your lift motor because the motor will have to lift the full weight of the door. The whole point of springs is to make the door weight near neutral - whether a human is doing the lifting or a motor.
@raofthesun75584 ай бұрын
Extension springs are very rare where I am from (Northern California). Torsion is 99% of everything, but this way of installing seems very learned through experience which seems to be the way of the trade haha
@alekrudy59936 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation. Thanks guys. I don’t need this knowledge right now, but after I accidentally got here, I stopped and listened. Nice and clear interesting way of talking. And these trade skills also seams interesting, after learning about all those small details.
@aolliegeeАй бұрын
Thank you guys it's a dream
@hassanbazzi35455 жыл бұрын
This very informative. I live in Florida and some how it is different. The put the tension spring on the wall on top of the garage door with a metal bar. Great video
@zekesmith5383 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the east to follow along with video….. made my project go by very smoothly!
@ljprep62507 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they still use those old extension springs! I love the torsion springs because they're so much safer and are so easily adjustable to make the garage door float.
@simplytrueyou92022 жыл бұрын
I came here because I neeeded to know how to install an extension spring on a new garage door.... so it is still out there. Or in the case of getting a used door when you need to save money, this video is relevant for some people.
@chrisbfishin93255 жыл бұрын
Always level the bottom section. If the door is too far off of level it will eventually throw a cable. I have cases in new construction where freshly poared concrete isn't even level.
@333alliedeagle4 жыл бұрын
This looks sooo easy.
@heroknaderi3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed this video. Oh and now a suggestion for a futire video. is Converting two small doors to one big door.
@larryworkman20938 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Helped me a ton and it should be a piece of cake at this point. Thanks for your contribution!
@iRsemple4 ай бұрын
6:46 when he attaches a "safety cable to the spring" I can't tell where the other end of the cable goes? He just sticks a wire through the spring and attaches one end to the metal bracket. But what's the other end attached to? Is it just dangling by the pulley-end of the spring?
@joseemajor9693 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Need advice/ help. Have old garage wood door installed now. 9 x 7 Used (?aluminum) door available for replacement. Can i just replace door slats onto existing track and hardware (rail springs etc) ? semi handy woman. Feel like i could achieve that but not reinstalling whole track system. Jo of all trades. Definitely master of none. Please let me know as soon as possible. Thank you Josee
@davidjacobs85585 жыл бұрын
I live in Southern California, and I usually don't see this type of spring for garage doors. I'm not sure whether it's regional thing, but this type of spring seems to be easier for homeowner to change if it breaks.
@jerzeedivr5 жыл бұрын
Most common spring in Philly!
@Aaronlee835 жыл бұрын
Only reason I use a ratchet on the track nuts is if my impact gun doesn’t fit. Like if there’s a wall or some other structure in my way. Also I hate extension springs. We always use front torsion springs on a shaft. Those extension springs break and can go flying around and hurt someone really bad. Even with the safety cable. Front torsion can break but they stay on the shaft. Also you can always adjust the front torsion spring after it wears over time. If you have extension springs, ask for a conversion kit from your local garage company. And find a company who sells C.H.I. garage doors. Clopay, Safeway, and others are usually hard to work on because the parts aren’t made anymore.
@rultonncube42652 жыл бұрын
thank u guys I already installed mine
@davidmiles43945 жыл бұрын
I Like your video this is the first time I'm installing a garage door for myself thank you
@ryhanpeacefeather92783 жыл бұрын
Very helpful for the garage door repair that I am doing. Thanks from Port Townsend, WA!
@brisaidap.d.674 жыл бұрын
Excelente video, muy ilustrativo , gracias por compartirlo. Saludos y feliz Año Nuevo
@heroknaderi4 жыл бұрын
Very informative 😎
@jasonzupke14744 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. You showed how to attach only one side of the safety cable.
@felixalonzo284711 ай бұрын
😂 yes. Still trying to figure out where the other end goes.
@RobertVeasquez2 жыл бұрын
Most garage doors openers I’ve had experience with have had bracing fore and aft of the motor. This new house I bought only has punch hole bracing on rear side. The door rail does shake quite a bit. Do I need to add punch hole brackets on the front side as well? '
@timstill15210 жыл бұрын
I have a door that's come off it's rail on one side. To uninstall the door, would I simply do this installation in reverse?
@edross641Ай бұрын
How far does the track and hardware come off the wall at the bottom?
@trixie200584 жыл бұрын
I follow this tips and the Manuel some how my door is not heady enough to hit the floor, the tension on the spring is enough to open the 7ft of my garage door I did a test to add more weight and it work but I can’t add to bc it suppose to be normal any suggestions thanks in avance
@jamessoltis54077 жыл бұрын
...somehow, I never pictured Larry David as a guy who'd help install a garage door.
@12dollacigarette6 жыл бұрын
James Soltis 🤣
@zentoco5 жыл бұрын
FIRST thing I thought of too! ROFL!
@JBMOTORSMORE4 жыл бұрын
Pretty pretty pretty good 👍
@cnigeldgriff62834 жыл бұрын
Easy..Curb your enthusiasm!
@Stahodad2 жыл бұрын
"Pretty Good..pretty good." Glad Tom's name isn't Hugh.. lol.
@B.T.S1292 жыл бұрын
Your uncle from BOSTON!
@OL4___5 жыл бұрын
Got a job interview for a garage door company.. i have zero experience so i came to watch this lol
@KR-ne1bl5 жыл бұрын
onlygudcronicplz4 seems legit lol
@mikespino32095 жыл бұрын
onlygudcronicplz4 exactly why I’m here 😂😂😂
@label18776 ай бұрын
Are you still in the garage door business?
@OL4___6 ай бұрын
@@label1877 actually yes and believe it or not, i have my own business now
@plumer563 ай бұрын
Same 😂
@anthonycellucci375911 ай бұрын
Im curious what did Tom Silva mean by putting a little tension on the top hinge.
@cooldog605 жыл бұрын
You put the safety cable through the spring you attached one end. What did you attach the other end to?
@Jskh4 жыл бұрын
Same question here lol 🤣
@PowersDave19663 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I watched others and this is much easier
@556suppressor3 жыл бұрын
Best door video on KZbin !!!
@dansanger53405 жыл бұрын
Those steel cable brackets can cut through the cable after several years of use. To prevent this, you can use a steel cable eye loop thingie (not sure what it's called, but a couple bucks at hardware store).
@johng52612 жыл бұрын
what part gets cut through?
@dansanger53402 жыл бұрын
@@johng5261 At 6:05, the edges of that little metal piece are sharp, and after several years can cut through the steel cable. It happened to me, and I had to replace the whole cable. I replaced the little metal piece with something resembling the cable loop that he slipped over the bolt at 5:53.
@label18776 ай бұрын
Or a little grease to kill the friction.
@cheetahryu81122 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you!
@Peanutlover-rj8vj8 жыл бұрын
I watched this video a few times and then put up my cloplay door in a little over an hour
@050Hidden5 жыл бұрын
I read this shitpost a few times and laughed for a little under an hour.
@onuw5 жыл бұрын
@Robert Hardt too bad he only shows half the process for the safety cable. I'm afraid your wife is doomed.
@cooldog605 жыл бұрын
@@onuw Yeah where did he attach the other end?
@livewireOrourke5 жыл бұрын
@@cooldog60You're right. He didn't show that it's his cat 🐈 that is holding the other end of the cable.
@boknows89364 жыл бұрын
Safety cables? Wouldn’t some good fishing line do the same thing?
@Elculichi25 ай бұрын
Anyone know where I can buy these garage doors besides Home Depot or Lowes in Los Angeles California? I will be installing them my self . Thank you in advance.
@nav58975 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your wonderful knowledge.
@General1Cal11 ай бұрын
Can this be done to a two car garage door?
@tassonscomedy1826 Жыл бұрын
How long does this process usually take to complete?
@Historyprepares7 жыл бұрын
Who do you think levels levels? Toms eyeballs.
@roxannetallack40586 жыл бұрын
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@noahlong76086 жыл бұрын
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@onuw5 жыл бұрын
Extension system - doesn't require Tom's eyeballs.
@workingcountry1776 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys
@King_TuTT7 ай бұрын
that safety cable is very important. I had springs like these and one broke nearly missed my head and struck a shop light in the ceiling and made a mess. good lord protected me that day.!! but really I didn't know people were still using springs these days.
@MattMorris4817 жыл бұрын
I see they don’t have to use the doors with the big braces on the inside like the ones that have to be installed in Florida for hurricane code.
@556suppressor3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful tip @2:50.
@Super4speed3 жыл бұрын
What brand of door is this? Clopay and general use metal studs inside the door, also the bottom gasket is already installed on the door! Maybe he purchased it at Home Depot or equivalent. I did door for thirty years. So slow.
@electrifyinglightningbolt5 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed is the top of those side brackets probably should have a couple of extra screws installed.
@Retroweld9 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks!
@SoulGasmProd3 жыл бұрын
awesome vid
@Christian_Soja6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was very helpful,
@gunther9558 жыл бұрын
What is a good brand door but not to expensive ? I looked at lowes but they have mixed reviews on the pella doors . Mine is 108 by 84 . I just want a plain jane door to replace a wooden door thats all to pieces .
@onuw5 жыл бұрын
Amar
@LubaLuba110 жыл бұрын
is this the same way for double door garage?
@l337pwnage7 жыл бұрын
No, you have to walk farther to each side of the door to bolt on the hinges.
@2003ranp7 жыл бұрын
Yes it is @luba luba
@OmarGarcia-bi7jq6 жыл бұрын
l337pwnage lol 😂
@LubaLuba14 жыл бұрын
DO YOU WANT TO BE BANNED FROM HERE ??@@chadthornton9042
@DJ-kx6gr5 жыл бұрын
Looks good to me and very educational. Wish I was taught this stuff in high school instead of some bullshit science on clouds and whatnot
@andywagner2125 жыл бұрын
Why on Earth would you choose to use extension springs?
@onuw5 жыл бұрын
Because it's DIY
@jerzeedivr5 жыл бұрын
In Philly they are the most common spring used!
@556suppressor3 жыл бұрын
A homeowner can install and replace extension springs without hiring a contractor. I have replaced 2 springs by myself. Pretty easy to do.
@andywagner2123 жыл бұрын
@@556suppressor they still generally run like crap versus torsion.
@556suppressor3 жыл бұрын
I love my extension springs. To each his own.
@TheHeadlessHorseman8 жыл бұрын
1:13 the multiple drills going at the same time made it seem like the home owner torqued the fuck out of the screw.
@orionred24897 жыл бұрын
This cable goes to the conner braaket on the dawr.
@brapperdan4 жыл бұрын
If you follow these directions there’s a good chance your door will not run right. They left out two very important pieces of information. 1. After installing both side tracks measure from the roller to the top of the verticals track on both sides, adjust the height of the tracks so they are even. 2. Both cables must be an even length before installing the 3 hole clip and S hook.
@karlos66289 жыл бұрын
My old garage doo has no spring -I order a new garage door- i wonder if I have to use the tension spring or even the garage door opener(motor)
@KingCaravaggio9 жыл бұрын
your new one should come with a new set of springs, based on the type of door
@XzTS-Roostro8 жыл бұрын
+C 19 There's two different types of springs that are used for a sectional garage door. The one shown here is more common for a one-piece door than a sectional.
@Engineer97367 жыл бұрын
I think even a motorized garage door has springs like a manual door. Otherwise all the gears would have too much unnecessary strain on them.
@jashimuddin77166 жыл бұрын
Thank you very helpful
@rexrexford52497 жыл бұрын
Nice job gentlemen. Found your presentation very helpful. Thanks.
@Eliusalmo17 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks a lot Sammy.. Definitely a master!
@AlMai2224 жыл бұрын
It’s Tommy god dammit ! Put some respec on his name
@garagedoorrepairco38295 жыл бұрын
Garage Door Repair does involve knowing the facts to keep from getting hurt and being successful.
@sgorneau3 жыл бұрын
Where is the other end of the safety cable attached?
@ErossMcCloud6 жыл бұрын
I put up doors a little bit different but it's still good !!
@SmiloHolding8 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@jeremyrackley8106 жыл бұрын
i love your vidoes :)
@mynonameyt2 жыл бұрын
Level the bottom panel first.
@adamlough65796 жыл бұрын
The top fixtures were upside down the So if he was to put an operator on it the operator has to go up really high now rather than your 3"
@rodbuilder36577 жыл бұрын
Hey "thanks" for giving us a close -up on where to route the cable around the track! C'Mon guys.
@myimplace71148 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@jc38256 жыл бұрын
Good !
@jaimesanchez18472 жыл бұрын
Gracias por este video muy Claro explicado todo con puntos claves Para entender gracias me a servido mucho Para hacer mis trabajos thank you
@RobertDiazLimaSur8 жыл бұрын
ELEGANTE Y PRACTICO.
@jeremyrackley8106 жыл бұрын
i a'm 7 year :) :) :) :) :) old i love your vidoes i love them soooooooooooo bad your vidoes are the good ones every im in 1rst grade
@billbutler-klein823910 жыл бұрын
nice job.
@MrJohndeere372010 жыл бұрын
i need a new door. :) my old 1 is going 2 be fixed soon. :) & yes a pro is doing it. :)
@cnigeldgriff62834 жыл бұрын
"Eye bawl it"
@whammybar988 жыл бұрын
LMFAO! 'Ill just eyeball it." good luck on having the rails come out square.
@teamgriffingaming38118 жыл бұрын
How is that opener hanging with out the door 😕😕😕😕😕😕😕
@myrhh18 жыл бұрын
He held it with a Vise
@wingnut57304 жыл бұрын
I've installed thousands of doors and I can say I've never installed top brackets upside down.
@Prairiedrifter15 жыл бұрын
Watch that dooh!!
@jerzeedivr5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@mrmadame286 жыл бұрын
5:00 great job... :p Good video anyway, thank for the info
@PZ-yx3mv7 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase your kit?
@AGEnderRedCarpetHandPoured8 жыл бұрын
Top brackets are upside down...and extension springs are really not used anymore...
@Nikodymus6 жыл бұрын
AG Ender this was made in 2014. So, it’s not surprise that much about the springs are outdated.
@dubyajayyo6 жыл бұрын
Vyto16 How much has the technology really advanced since 2014.
@karenhowerton20036 жыл бұрын
You use that spring for manual lifting
@manyhammers59446 жыл бұрын
Karen Howerton Sure. All doors use a spring system for a counter balance. I had a customer just as ignorant as you,she thought the springs are temporary and the operator did the heavy lifting.