How to install a metal security door into stucco or wood siding

[@LadyBloved]

I have watched about 6 videos on how to install security screens-(researching for my upcoming project) this is the most comprehensive I’ve seen thus far. You addressed ALL of the issues I’m aware that I will be facing with sloped trim and tight clearance! What’s even better is you are installing the exact door I bought. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@askillthatpays]

Hey that's great to hear. So glad I could help. I've installed 100s of these and often ran into tricky little issues, so I'm happy to share the knowledge. Thanks so much for watching.

[@vennesakelly6863]

@@askillthatpays I'm so frustrated out of my mind with that sloped trim. Think just going to take the whole thing back

[@ibvocean]

@@askillthatpays Hello Sir, I am installing a 36" security door soon but the wood siding width is 38" instead of 36". What should I do?

[@RetiredTrucking]

The removable screws idea is pretty genius. Great tip!

[@askillthatpays]

I'm glad you found it helpful. These things seem so simple and yet they can be tricky so I'm happy to share my experience. Thanks for watching. I appreciate viewers like you.

[@temomoreno2018]

Excellent video. I need to install one of these in my home also and the door you installed is the identical one I chose from Home Depot. I’ve never done this before but you made it look so easy. With all your fabulous installation tips I now have the confidence to install my own. Thank you so much.

[@askillthatpays]

That's great to hear. I've installed 100s of these and they're surprisingly tricky based on the surface, so I thought I'd share the tips I've learned along the way. Good luck and thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@1984-q4s]

You make the best door videos.

[@askillthatpays]

I'm so glad to hear that. I have learned a lot from fellow KZbinrs, but get frustrated when things are unclear or incomplete, so I do my best to post things that are helpful. Thanks for watching.

[@BrianEdgin-uk2od]

Thanks for that note about using regular screws to line it up before using the permanent ones. I would have had a door that doesn't shut.

[@askillthatpays]

When you've screwed up as many times as I have, you learn these tricks. Thanks for watching

[@lilianafeliciano8044]

This is excelllent!!! So clear even for a novice like me, gives me some confidence. What a great teacher!

[@askillthatpays]

Glad I could help. They seem so easy but after doing 20, I realized how tricky those screws are, so I came up with that method. I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching.

[@mackite4846]

awesome video thanks for sharing

[@askillthatpays]

After doing so many of these, I'm happy to pass on the tips that have saved me so much time and effort. Thanks for watching

[@silvermanicattack8190]

I just picked up that same screen door, and your video is the best explanation and the easiest way to install it thank you so much for your knowledge and I subbed to see more

[@askillthatpays]

I'm glad I could help. I've installed so many of these and have dealt with so many little issues that I decided to pass along some tips. Thanks for watching.

[@noone-gh1nr]

This was a great video and really helped me get mine installed. We were just doing this for looks, we didn't really need the security aspect of it so we just used the 3 inch screws with the washers like he did here for the "temporary" mount. Works great

[@askillthatpays]

That's great to hear and the security screws are overkill anyway. In 15 years of working on doors, I've NEVER seen a case where someone tried to unscrew something. It's too noisy, difficult and time consuming. Thanks for watching.

[@Ninergang702]

You're a Life saver man!

[@askillthatpays]

Glad I could help. Thanks for watching.

[@farid.shirvani]

This was the best video explaining. I did a perfect job the first time. Thank you 🙏 thank you , thank you 🙏

[@askillthatpays]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've done so many of these and realized they probably seem very easy and yet there are some tricky elements about them so I wanted to explain. Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching.

[@temomoreno2018]

Thank you so much for the awesome detailed video. Your tip on using removable screws first as a test was priceless. I ended up removing them twice. 😂. I followed your tips and everything came out great. Thanks again. 👊🏽👍🏽

[@askillthatpays]

That's great to hear. I've installed a 100 of those and finally figured out a way to make it easier so I'm happy to share some experience. Thanks for watching.

[@Vinci747]

Perfect demonstration. You addressed all my concerns. Thanks.

[@askillthatpays]

Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching.

[@shuusel-wo]

我是中国的一个包装厂家，很高兴在这里看到自己生产的产品。希望你们可以使用愉快。谢谢

[@aprilgirl4411]

just excellent. thank you!

[@askillthatpays]

I'm glad I could pass on some tips. These can be tricky and I've done so many of them that I'm happy to pass on my experience. Thanks for watching. I appreciate people like you who take the time to comment.

[@ronnie8274]

Thank you, this really helped me.

[@askillthatpays]

I love hearing that. These can be deceptively tricky so I'm happy to share some knowledge. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it.

[@phineusphineas]

Nice video! One addition: carry some white nail polish for touch ups if you scratch the surface.

[@askillthatpays]

Great tip!

[@katykayy]

Great and informative video.

[@askillthatpays]

These things can be tricky and yet they seem so simple, so I'm happy to share the tips that I've learned along the way. Thanks for watching.

[@faithalarcon7020]

Thank you for info your tips were good in my installation Very good video

[@askillthatpays]

That's great to hear. This one seems to really help people and I'm glad to see that because even though these are relatively "easy," those darn attachment screws can be problematic. Thanks for watching.

[@jlrami1604]

Thank you, great video content. With amazing tips 🔥🔥🔥

[@martyr5542]

Very complete video.. wish i had watched it first. I just finished installing one of these and find my door knob on the security door hits the deadbolt of the regular door. I am going to need to take it out and shim it out about 1/2".. I don't have enough room to go up or down so frustrating. IS there any way to get those security bolts out short of grinding the head off? You've earned a new subscriber.. Thanks

[@askillthatpays]

Yes, there are 2 ways to do that. One is to grab them with vice grips and hope it turns. The second is to put a cutoff blade on an angle grinder and cut a slot into it thus turning into a big screw. Then try to turn it with a large screw driver, or what I've done is cut off an old 5/8" spade bit and put it in the drill to use like a screwdriver. Good luck and thanks for watching.

[@ChrisKay-o4u]

excellent informative video..thank you!

[@askillthatpays]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it

[@okayokay2010]

Thank you for share it.

[@askillthatpays]

You're welcome. These are more tricky than most realize so I'm happy to share my experience. Thanks for watching.

[@kutncure]

Love the video…..I need This prior to installing my door…the spacing between my security door and interior door has only 2.18 inches. I can find a door handle that is short enough. Any suggestions..sign.edit”I wish I had seen this video before my security door was Installed”

[@askillthatpays]

Yeah, just get 1x4 exterior planks or something similar and simply build up the frame around the sides and top of your door thus increasing the space between knobs. Thanks for watching.

[@ryantracey9971]

12:21 - you mention when that final screw is in, it will usually just rub up against the edge of the door. If that screw is too close to the edge, does it prevent the door from closing ? Or does the lip of the door close over the edge of the screw ?

[@askillthatpays]

Great question. The design always seems a little odd to me yet the doors have enough play in them that they manage to clear the screws. However, sometimes I've had to make the screw hole oval shaped to clear the door and other times have actually taken the angle grinder to the lip of the door. Thanks for watching.

[@Eddie-uh7tl]

Thanks for video, and great tip for the leveling the outside frame with the composite shim. Where do you get the shims? Thank you!

[@askillthatpays]

Glad you enjoyed it. The composite shims are available at Home Depot but you have to search for them as they don't keep them with the wood shims. I've also found them at larger regional hardware stores. Thanks for watching

[@moraleswarnold]

Wow. Thank you

[@askillthatpays]

You're welcome and thank YOU for watching. I appreciate it

[@cidpusa700]

Awesome tips , in depth knowledge base you have. Great superb teacher and amazing video. I am off to home depot.

[@askillthatpays]

With these tips, it's not that hard, but it took me about 10 doors to figure out this system so I'm happy to pass on some knowledge. Thanks for watching.

[@zulmafigueroa6440]

Great video. Thank. I can install my door now.

[@askillthatpays]

That's great to hear. Good luck and thanks for watching.

[@kathryncotton9357]

Hi … thank you for this video I just bought the exact same door and was wondering does it matter if the house is a wood home? The concern is would the screws split the studs of the door frame?

[@askillthatpays]

It's unlikely that you'll split the studs. As a precaution, pre-drill them with something slightly smaller than the screws. All the best and thanks for watching.

[@kathryncotton9357]

@@askillthatpays thank you so much. Thanks for posting

[@SuperRowdyone]

What size drill bit did you use for the holes before you put the security screws in?

[@askillthatpays]

The screws are usually 1/4" or 5/16". So I use a bit that just slightly smaller than that. Thanks for watching.

[@SuperRowdyone]

@@askillthatpays gotcha, ty!!

[@DMEN34]

Hi! I already have an old rusted security door that needs to be replaced. Will it be easier to install new door since holes are already in place?

[@askillthatpays]

they usually line up in the same place, but sometimes they don't hold the new screws well. I would try it, but slide some wood slivers in the old holes to give a little more grip. Thanks for watching.

[@DMEN34]

Thank you for answering my question and helping me out!

[@00Jesusrocks]

Can you switch the door knob to be on the right side instead of left side?

[@askillthatpays]

Yes, if you go to 1:35 of the video it shows that the door can easily be reversed. Hope this helps and thanks for watching. I appreciate it

[@seanz1232010]

I was looking to replace a couple of these with new metal doors. Unsure how the screws will come out or if i wont be able to re-use the same hole positions. Any suggestions?

[@askillthatpays]

If you buy the same type of door, the holes almost always line up with the old ones. However, You can always drill new holes and then use the procedures. In addition, the "security" screws are overrated. In 15 years of doing doors and fixing break-ins, I've NEVER seen a case where a thief brought tools and unscrewed something or removed hinge pins. It's too noisy and time consuming. Thieves smash windows, and use crow-bars. If you just use regular heavy duty construction lag screws, you'll have just as much "security." Thanks for watching.

[@thrashriot89]

Question. What if there are holes from when the previous owners had a security door, would that affect the new door screws?

[@askillthatpays]

It could as those are almost always the same. You could reuse them or simply drill new ones. You could also fill them with a dowel. Also you could use longer lag screws instead of the security screws. The "security" screws are really just a false sense of security. Here's why. An intruder will pry this door open in 30 seconds. In 20 years of contracting, I've NEVER seen a break-in that was the result of a burglar unscrewing something, removing hinge pins etc. Doesn't mean it isn't possible, but seriously, it's hard enough to remove these things during the day when I'm assigned to do so. Trying to do it quietly and quickly at night is impossible. Thanks for watching.

[@thrashriot89]

Thanks!

[@RaiderMarkAfterDark_sec122]

I’ve got a stucco border they put around my door frame I’m guessing just for aesthetic. I’m wondering should I take a multi tool n trim it out where screen gonna go or should I just get some extra long bolts to anchor screen down to frame? Any advice

[@askillthatpays]

It's hard for me to say without seeing it, but a multi tool isn't a good choice for that much material. I would try longer lag screws first. If that doesn't work, then use an angle grinder with a diamond cutoff wheel. Good luck and thanks for watching.

[@artiemend.3578]

Hello...what did you end up doing to get yours installed I have same issue and lowes wants to nickel and dime me to remove stucco

[@sydneyjiron3586]

What if my door measures 35 inches? What size screen door do I purchase?

[@askillthatpays]

36". I have a short that explains measuring doors here. Generally, whatever your actual door measures, round up. Thanks for watching. kzbin.infot41FucifTmk?feature=share

[@paej5842]

buen video pero los tornillos no deberían estar expuestos, en LATAM sacan los tornillos con un desarmador y se llevan la puerta con marco y todo.

[@askillthatpays]

Tienes razón amigo. Gracias por ver

[@sabinehagemann6159]

How are these doors secure, when I can cut the screen with tin snips? What else can you use for a security door?

[@askillthatpays]

It's difficult to cut with tin snips but I get your point. These types of doors come in different thickness and styles based on price. There are few doors, other than bank vaults, that are truly "secure." Doors and locks only keep out honest people. If someone wants to get in, they will. Security comes in layers, and products like this make it more difficult and less likely that a break in will occur because they increase the time necessary to do so. Thanks for watching.

[@69DUDLEY]

Great job I have the locks and they slip on the metal surface besides double stick Gonna use mag locks with bracket and 30 RFID control The locks 40 50 for control blue tag combo battery push to exit better than these keys I used tuff foam to adjust the shim was helpful

[@69DUDLEY]

Any Digital key locks you like for this gate ? 4:08

[@askillthatpays]

I haven't seen one yet that can be installed in these without modifying the door. They need a larger flat surface. I used to do welding and I'd weld a plate around the hole to make a flush surface. Without doing that, they don't install well and the guts are exposed to weather. Thanks for watching.

[@Victor-q2i2j]

Thanks

[@orgykicksazz]

The tool that came with the door broke, know how to screw the bolts without the tool?

[@askillthatpays]

Depot and Lowes sell them in the screw section along with other security screws. The one that comes with the door is very low quality and the replacements are much better. Good luck and thanks for watching.

[@pipiripau7859]

Thank you sir

[@askillthatpays]

You're welcome. These seem very simple and yet they can be tricky depending on what you're attaching them to, so I'm happy to share the things I've learned in all my years of doing this. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@ukelilly]

I have an old security door and so I can't unscrew those screws to remove the old security door ? If so, any tips on how to remove the old door ? And with the previous holes from the old screws, qould I need to replace the door jamb ?

[@askillthatpays]

There are two options. First is to grind all heads off with an angle grinder, remove the frame, then use vice grips to remove the screws. Second option is to cut off an old 5/8" spade bit and grind it a little to it's like a large screw driver. Then use a cutoff wheel and grind a slot into the screw deep enough to accept the 5/8" spade bit. Then use the spade bit in a drill like a screwdriver to remove the screw. Good luck and thanks for watching

[@ukelilly]

@@askillthatpays Thanks :)

[@paradise6606]

Thank God for men.

[@askillthatpays]

That's high praise. Thanks for watching.

[@Amir_Ervin]

My front door has stucco surrounding front door. I did an inspection cut on the stucco. I found behind the stucco is more concrete. Do the one-way screws provided work going into concrete?

[@askillthatpays]

No. There is typically some wood behind there somewhere because the stucco has to be allied to something. I would drill through the stucco til you find out how deep the wood is, and then get an appropriate length screw. Even though the screws that come with the kit aren't reversible, I don't always use them. In 15 years of doors, I've NEVER seen anybody unscrew a door to break in. They almost always use a crow bar. However, IF security is an issue, lag screws can be ground down once installed. Thanks for watching.

[@Amir_Ervin]

@@askillthatpays there is wood behind the concrete. So it in this Stucco, Concrete, then wood frame. What do you suggest I do?

[@nbk9nbk1]

The tip of using the top to figure width 🎉

[@askillthatpays]

Only took me 2 years and 20 installs to figure that out. LOL. I'm happy to pass it one. Thanks for watching.

[@artiemend.3578]

Lowes installers want 1,200 to install mine and they want to remove stucco too is that necessary or are they trying to get money out of me ?

[@askillthatpays]

LOL. That's because they're very limited in their abilities. I've installed 100 of these and never had to damage stucco in any way. Send them my video. Thanks for watching.

[@alicecoulson3711]

Can a metal security door be painted?

[@askillthatpays]

Yes. I've done it with spray cans which came out splotchy and a rented spray gun which came out great. Thanks for watching

[@kenjijazzlynkekoanui4185]

Thanks for clearly explaining the steps and mentioning what could go wrong 👍

[@askillthatpays]

I'm happy to help. I've screwed up many doors in my career so I try help others. Thanks for watching

[@diamond6256]

Great video.

[@askillthatpays]

Glad you enjoyed. They seem simple to install, but Those security screws can be tricky so I'm happy to share my experience. Thanks for watching.

[@robrob3402]

So correct I'm using the temporary screws first yeah I know what you mean once you've screwed up so many times you'll learn little tricks very cool

[@askillthatpays]

I'm glad I could assist. Thanks for watching

[@medabee1322]

My door doesn’t want to lock after install lock wat can I do?

[@askillthatpays]

There are a number of reasons for that. It could be hitting the lock on your other door. It could be misaligned up and down. It might not be closing far enough. It's a matter of loosening the screws holding the locks side piece in place and moving it however necessary to get it to line up. good luck and thanks for watching

[@coder5733]

Did I miss something? You were going to show how to remove a security screw. While installing my security door, one of the security screws hit something solid about 2 inches in and I can't screw it in any further and I can't remove it with the bit. (of course!) I'm not a carpenter, just an old lady, 66 yrs young.

[@askillthatpays]

Arggg. that's frustrating. YOu've 3 options. Shear it off and drill a new hole or unscrew it with vice grips slowly. Lastly, cut a groove in the screw with an angle grinder and cutoff wheel to make a slot as though it's a big slotted screw. Then either use a large flat screwdriver or cut the point off an old 5/8" spade bit and put it in your drill and use that as a screwdriver. Good luck and thanks for watching.

[@coder5733]

Thanks for getting back to me. I researched the comments in your video later on. I tried cutting a groove into the head of the screw with my Dremel and it didn't work for me because my hands shake, so the slot was kind of sloppy. I discovered that I could buy extra security screws just like the ones I had so I used a womans method of fixing the problem. I took my hammer and banged the 2 inches of the screw sticking out to a 90 degree angle and unscrewed it with a vise grip wrench. TaDa!! The Security Door looks great and I feel more secure in my home. Thank you for you instructive video. It was better than the others I had watched going into this project.

[@Bob-gn8ph]

Thanks ❤John 3:16❤

[@askillthatpays]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it

[@philrose7716]

Have you installed that type door on a mobile home?

[@askillthatpays]

No, but if I had to, I would probably use self tapping metal screws to get the door in place, then drill through the siding and use long carriage bolts with the nuts and washers inside the home. Thanks for watching.

[@MoPoppins]

Is this the channel that used to be called “Mitt’s dad”?

[@askillthatpays]

That's correct. Still a few of the old videos available. Now focused on doors

[@MoPoppins]

@@askillthatpays You do excellent work, and are such a natural teacher-thank you for sharing your knowledge so generously! 🙏

[@askillthatpays]

that's very kind of you to say. I appreciate that and thanks for watching. @@MoPoppins

[@whatnowok]

10:07…… Hummhumm

[@askillthatpays]

I realize you only have one subscriber and don't actually make any videos, but I still appreciate that you take the time to watch my videos and comment. Thanks for watching.