How to install an EPDM Flat Rubber Roof, ClassicBond

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@s10projectmanagement78
@s10projectmanagement78 4 жыл бұрын
I first used this product on a flat top about 7 years ago, i went back to the property recently and the roof still looks great. I’ve done several since and really rate this system.
@matt7iron
@matt7iron 3 жыл бұрын
Will it work on a slightly sloped roof.
@ronskiman4094
@ronskiman4094 2 жыл бұрын
@@matt7iron Of course it will, a roof should be slighlty slopey by design to allow water run off.
@coolI12332
@coolI12332 Жыл бұрын
What type of glue did they use on the edges and what was the measurement? It looked to me around 20 cm?
@tomaytotomato
@tomaytotomato Жыл бұрын
@@coolI12332 The rules for EPDM (roughly) Edges - 100mm (4inches) Upstands - 150mm (6inches) Overhangs for gutters - 50mm (2inches)
@ca6360
@ca6360 Жыл бұрын
​@@ronskiman4094what part of country you working in? Most folks where I live in new england use lvoc on top of 1/2 iso recover board or fiber board held down to deck with seam plates and screws. That way can walk on roof and has give as to not puncture rubber. They use Lvoc bonding adhesive and at edges uses c-6 or c-8 alum drip with a self stick cover tape 5" or 6" wide and you prime and stick down to cover drip edge to rubber transition. Some folks get really picky and epdm edge caulk both sides of tape. I dont think you need too, but, they prefer to never get a call back. I am just curious as not needing that cover tape with the PVC edge and overlapping rubber is much cheaper. 5"x100 cover is over $300 a roll
@Smiley959
@Smiley959 7 ай бұрын
Ordering and delivery from Rubber4roofs was a breeze. Delivery was quick and when promised. Fitting went just as smoothly. As a complete novice I’m amazed at how easy it all was. The only problem I had was the speed the glue went off due to it being a hot day. 100% happy with it all.
@paulstone7655
@paulstone7655 2 ай бұрын
Love it how the installers here step off the roof to roll the rubber sheet, as if that's possible in practice lol
@gregmacmillan7385
@gregmacmillan7385 4 жыл бұрын
So I just fitted one of these today on a cabin/summerhouse. Mine was just over 5m x 4m. As others have said this makes it look pretty easy. A 1.1mm thick 5m x 4m epdm roof weighs 55kg/120 lbs (according to the shipping label). Getting it on to the roof was a major pain. Particularly without catching it on the osb3 edges I roofed with. I spent around 30 mins getting it on the roof and the in the right place and lined up properly. This was pretty difficult and mainly involved removing the big ripples and folds, then getting the rubber broadly square to the roof, harder than it sounds without falling off when you are standing on the rubber itself. Another 30 mins letting the rubber 'relax'. Around 30-40 mins to get the water based glue on in 2 'halves' and the edges were another 30 minutes or so. Most of the time was spent moving the rubber around, the glue went off pretty quickly. Moving the rubber is difficult, and with one person it hard to fold it as neatly as is shown here. The water based adhesive was initially like an ice rink (standing on the rubber sliding over the adhesive), then after 10 minutes it quickly became very tacky and hard to lift/reposition. The border contact glue was ready pretty much instantly, making it quite hard to manage as it was sticking the rubber after 1-2 minutes and hardening in my roller tray after 5-10 minutes. It stuck the rubber to itself if I didn't fold it back carefully. You need to be clear in your mind what you are doing and go for it because as soon as the glue is down the clock is running. This is early autumn in Scotland with 75% humidity at 13°C. Remember the glue won't work properly if it's wet, humidity over 80%, or if the temperature is under 5°C or going to fall under freezing in the next 48 hours. Not much use in Scotland! So I'd relied on this video as a guide for fitting a 'standard' 1.1mm firestone epdm kit. But I had no idea what the timescales were for the glue drying etc and I couldn't find this information anywhere. I'd read somewhere the contact glue would take 15-30 minutes to tack off... But that wasn't true for me. Hopefully this helps someone.
@darland3821
@darland3821 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience of this. I'm doing a similar size roof mid December, I'm down south but even so will have to wait for a couple of mild days. Cheers.
@marcgbristol
@marcgbristol 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I was going to start on my project but the weather says -2 in the next day. Its about 10degrees now so I thought why not? You have saved me a mess up!
@gbwildlifeuk8269
@gbwildlifeuk8269 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah looks easy enough on this vid with a 4" high roof! Just step off when you need to for better control, but on the likes if a garage roof it must be a pain trying to dance round it.
@isyt1
@isyt1 3 жыл бұрын
Truly fantastic comment! Wish everyone was this helpful on KZbin! I’m also in Scotland with a high-ish roof and I think you’ve dissuaded me from using this. I like that it lasts a lifetime with zero maintenance but the installation sounds a bit back-breaking and prone to me making a complete ar5e of it! Probs will just go for ordinary cheap felt with maybe some bitumen paint over the seams
@brightonduder
@brightonduder 3 жыл бұрын
good comment - much appreciated
@leisurelanemhp3853
@leisurelanemhp3853 3 жыл бұрын
ABC supply here in the USA aka Kingstree products introduced WBA to the world some 20 years ago. The brain child of Ken Long. I think I was the 1st contractor to use it on commercial applications in Indiana. It was is a big hit in the RV industry here in Indiana.
@User2080g
@User2080g 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very useful for beginners!
@scoobygregwrx
@scoobygregwrx 2 жыл бұрын
It's like fitting a giant screen protector on your phone ... Usually easier said than done
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
😂 Nice comparison. Luckily the Membrane is not see through, so you don't need to worry about that one annoying spec of dust you can never shift with a screen protector.
@morepower3242
@morepower3242 3 жыл бұрын
We used to put a padding between the rubber and wood
@horserider9578
@horserider9578 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you use two different adhesives.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
The main adhesive is easy to use and perimeter adhesive is much stronger and grabs instantly. They both have their use.
@rickyshinobi2303
@rickyshinobi2303 3 ай бұрын
This looks great. how would you do a transition from this flat to a downward pitch? Then additionally you will have shingles coming up to this flat roof. Would you put another rubber on top can you do that?
@flyingdiscproductions
@flyingdiscproductions 2 жыл бұрын
you say to put the adhesive on the EDPM underside also?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick The water based adhesive only needs to be applied to the deck. The contact adhesive used around the perimeter is applied to both the deck and the membrane. I hope this helps.
@patrickdonegan9559
@patrickdonegan9559 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs thanks ...
@usukrichard
@usukrichard 4 жыл бұрын
Looks easy but my roof over 2,4 m in height. Where do I walk?
@fredvanstone5159
@fredvanstone5159 3 жыл бұрын
Scaffold
@jb-pn5oo
@jb-pn5oo 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredvanstone5159 no not scaffold. That would cost more than rubber itself.
@jakecraven4902
@jakecraven4902 3 жыл бұрын
Roll your rubber back like a carpet pva about 3ft infront of you and roll out rubber. Once finished one side just repeat on the other.
@honeytubs
@honeytubs 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. The video would have been much more realistic if they stayed on the platform while rolling the rubber out.
@petrazalazar2649
@petrazalazar2649 2 жыл бұрын
Can we apply this membrane to metal roofing?
@bladewraith
@bladewraith 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. We have a 1920s house which has a flat concrete roof. Due to the porous nature it is 'weeping' through to the room below. We have had two quotes that are roughly in line; the difference in their approach is this: 1. Wants to install batons across the concrete like joists. Apply smart ply and then a rubber membrane on top. 2. Wants to screw osb direct to the concrete and then rubbber sheet on top. Which is better?
@tomcullingford2962
@tomcullingford2962 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, I’m pleased to hear both are installing ply before the CLASSICBOND is installed. There’s an important question relating to insulation that needs to be answered. Is this concrete roof over a heated room or is it a garage? Introducing an unventilated gap under the smart ply might be a bad idea as condensation could build up on the underside of the boards. I would suggest they install a vapour barrier directly under the board as a minimum to stop any residual moisture in the concrete rotting the boards and ideally if it is a heated room underneath then installing a vapour barrier followed by PIR insulation and then osb3 on top would give you the best solution.
@bladewraith
@bladewraith 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomcullingford2962 thanks for your response. It was originally two outside cupboards; one is now an inside toilet and the other half still an outside store. Neither are heated, but obviously the toilet half will acquire some heat from the utility room. So if the OSB is screwed directly to the concrete does it still need a barrier to prevent condensation?
@tomcullingford2962
@tomcullingford2962 2 жыл бұрын
@@bladewraith Hi Ian. Ideally insulate even if it’s just 50mm and screw the osb board directly through into the concrete. Put a polythene vapour barrier between the insulation and concrete.
@aboston5740
@aboston5740 Жыл бұрын
epdm on concrete is fine with the proper adhesive. concrete high rises use epdm or torched asphalt directly. dont use wood. its introducing a complication of rot
@Independent_minds_
@Independent_minds_ Жыл бұрын
Why did you not apply bonding adhesive to the rubber. We have always using bonding adhesive on wood decking and back of rubber.
@mootoo4762
@mootoo4762 6 ай бұрын
The rubber EPDM sheeting comes with a sort of talc/dusting applied, I'm guessing for easier handling. The question is.... Should this be swept/washed off before applying glue? Will the talc negatively impact the adhesion of the glue? Thanks in advance :)
@aniyah52411
@aniyah52411 2 жыл бұрын
can I use this material ob an rv roof?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there This would be dependant on the actual substrate of the RV roof. If it is not a porous timber then you would need to use Contact adhesive for the entirety of the Membrane. It may also be difficult but not impossible to install a trim to the edges of the RV to ensure each edge is water tight. I hope this helps.
@brockfullerton7611
@brockfullerton7611 Жыл бұрын
would you still put a drip edge underneath like a normal roof? Are there two different types of adhesive needed for the middle and edge?
@rdword2345
@rdword2345 5 ай бұрын
So why do you need a different adhesive around the edges?
@stef2198
@stef2198 Ай бұрын
What is the bull nose shaped strip around the edge called? Thanks
@rewrkz8073
@rewrkz8073 Ай бұрын
im wondering too
@rdword2345
@rdword2345 5 ай бұрын
what type of surface coating do you put on top of the EPDM?
@antonior6194
@antonior6194 7 ай бұрын
How hard is it to remove when needed?
@nudger44
@nudger44 2 жыл бұрын
Can you fit a mineral felt over this once it is fitted.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob No, Bitumen products are not compatible with this membrane. Epdm is a complete waterproof membrane so there would be no need to install another waterproofing system on top.
@totsymanagwanhughes2183
@totsymanagwanhughes2183 3 жыл бұрын
So the white glue has to still be white when you roll the rubber out? Or do you let it soak in abit so it’s clear
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Totsey Man. You can let the white water based adhesive tack off a little if you’ve put it on to thick but don’t let it go clear. The adhesive should transfer to the back of the EPDM membrane once swept with a broom. You can always peal the corner back just to check that it’s transferred.
@totsymanagwanhughes2183
@totsymanagwanhughes2183 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers I was having this conversation with a work colleague the other day when fitting a Firestone rubber roof. I said that the water based glue has to be still white when rolling the rubber out. He thought you have to let it go clear first. So cheers for clarification on that I got him to do it my way in the end anyway.
@charlesvaughn832
@charlesvaughn832 2 жыл бұрын
Will it last for 50 years.
@alisdairhunter5265
@alisdairhunter5265 Жыл бұрын
We've just had a rubber membrane fitted but the roofers didn't put contact adhesive on the drip baton/gutter edge. The result is a slight rise on the rubber trapping water on the flat roof. Should adhesive be used on all edges?
@Themanthatcando
@Themanthatcando 10 ай бұрын
What is the trim thats fitted already on the right hand side?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 10 ай бұрын
Hi @dax525 this is the back plate for the drip trim. This is installed prior to the membrane and once the membrane is fitted the front plate clamps the membrane in place. Here is a link to our video showing the installation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIaUh6iniMuBl5Y
@taron.y
@taron.y Жыл бұрын
where does the caulk go?
@rpmautoreviews9249
@rpmautoreviews9249 Жыл бұрын
but how does rain and snow melting run off if you creating a raised border around it ??
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs Жыл бұрын
Hi there, On a flat roof, there should be a slight fall towards one edge. On this edge you would install a drip trim. This trim allows water to run off the edge that water flows towards and into the guttering. I hope this helps.
@taffytop
@taffytop 2 жыл бұрын
Can you walk on epdm as your laying it down, if no how long is it before you can walk on it to do the edge details as i have no scaffolding
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi taffytop You can walk on Epdm as you install it that's no problem as long as you're careful not to push it around as the Water based adhesive cures.
@lukewing1203
@lukewing1203 2 жыл бұрын
Can I apply a rubber liner straight over the top of a fibreglass roof?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke You can overlay a Fibreglass roof using Rubber but the the membrane would have to be stuck down with Contact adhesive across the whole surface area. If the Original Fibreglass roof has failed and there is moisture within the roof build up which has potentially caused the Timber to rot or made the boards 'spongey' then a re-roof may be the best option.
@antonyporter5045
@antonyporter5045 4 жыл бұрын
why not apply the water based adhesive to both sides (roof + membrane) ???
@imhungry2387
@imhungry2387 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not necessary and will take too long to dry
@leisurelanemhp3853
@leisurelanemhp3853 3 жыл бұрын
You can apply on both sides and let clear off to bond. We do this around seams when we use inseam tape so we can fold lap back to clean and apply primer.
@58gennaro
@58gennaro 4 жыл бұрын
How do you install spouting to this system?
@ddpeak1
@ddpeak1 4 жыл бұрын
Use the gutter trim and make sure you have at least a one inch drip. We usually do this with a piece of slate batten 50 x 25 mm srewed to the over hanging deck. For eg, www.rubber4roofs.co.uk/shop/sure-edge-gutter-drip-trim-2-5m
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
@@ddpeak1 or alternatively for a hopper outlet www.rubber4roofs.co.uk/how-to-install-a-horizontal-drain
@allenluberger1511
@allenluberger1511 4 жыл бұрын
where i new jersey can i buy this product and other aterials for my roof??
@triumfdula8830
@triumfdula8830 2 жыл бұрын
Can this be applied on the walls too, if not what is an alternative for wrapping a flat roof and walls of a wood cabin ?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Triumf We only recommend using EPDM as a Flat roofing material, Normally the walls would be wrapped with some form of breather membrane for walls before cladding is fitted. I think a wooden cabin looks nice clad with Timber personally.
@colbywood1785
@colbywood1785 2 жыл бұрын
Typically in areas of custom homes I have done as well as my own cabin I did an acoustic membrane...my go-to, hand-to-god not sponsored choice is a membrane called Acousti-Blok. Aside from that I always caulk every double joint that goes through to plywood and foam every bay until full when trimmed back
@kevinharrington900
@kevinharrington900 Жыл бұрын
Can the rubber be applied to both sides of osb board ( smooth side and rough side)
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin It can but we would recommend bonding to the rough side for a better bond.
@kevinharrington900
@kevinharrington900 Жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs thank you so much for the response, my shed currently has felt on and I was under the impression that the rubber should only be applied to the smooth side. I'm going to scrape the felt off and then turn the boards over, you saved me about £140.
@danielcarter491
@danielcarter491 2 жыл бұрын
How does one attach a drainage gutter to the so-called gutter edge? I was considering mounting a gutter along the edge of the roof and then inserting a strip of flashing under the edge of the rubber matt and bending it downward to the gutter. Hopefully there is a glue that could effectively keep it in place?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel Guttering is usually fitted below the Drip trim. The backplate of the Drip trim is normally mounted to a 2x1 Timber batten so that the actual trim protrudes out from the roof edge so that the water drips into the middle of the Gutter. I hope this helps.
@HAGA7793
@HAGA7793 3 жыл бұрын
It goes directly on the plywood? There is no layers below it prior to the plywood?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
The membrane is adhered straight on to your timber deck with the water based adhesive. You just need to make sure your timber boards are dry and clean.
@HAGA7793
@HAGA7793 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs what about the insulation and vapor retarder layer? When I search EPDM roof layers for flashing details, I typically see insulation above the plywood before the EPDM membrane. I would imagine it’s important.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
@@HAGA7793 On a Warm roof build up you would typically install one board on top of the joists, then your Vapour barrier, followed by your insulation. You would then install another board on top of the Insulation and the EPDM membrane is applied to this top board.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
@@HAGA7793 Please see reply above :)
@HAGA7793
@HAGA7793 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs thanks for the reply; I’m asking for future construction I’m working on. My roof is flat but has a long span so there is some attic volume. This attic is vented and has insulation placed between the ceiling joists. In that case, would a hot roof add any value? I think a cold roof makes sense and I want to confirm if it’s okay to directly apply EPDM over the plywood sheathing? Thanks.
@MartynStubbsTBS
@MartynStubbsTBS 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when you are working at height! Be very careful. We just laid a rubber roof 16ftx14ft no problem really easy.
@matt7iron
@matt7iron 3 жыл бұрын
Will this rubber roof work on a slightly sloping roof
@MartynStubbsTBS
@MartynStubbsTBS 3 жыл бұрын
@@matt7iron yes
@davidridley8320
@davidridley8320 3 жыл бұрын
Hi what do you put along where the boards join
@herbburt9069
@herbburt9069 3 жыл бұрын
what are the centers on the pre drilled holes on the trim?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Herb. There are 8 pins per 2.5m length so that’s approximately 278mm centres.
@herbburt9069
@herbburt9069 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs ok thanks
@whitemiasma5288
@whitemiasma5288 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@davefrancis7213
@davefrancis7213 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I want to do this to my garage roof but my garage is connected to next doors garage. How do I go about fitting rubber roofing to join up to there old felt roof? I’d ask if they would want there’s doing at the same time but there pockets are squeaky so I’ll just do mine and leave there’s
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, thanks for the question. You can join on to an existing felt roof by installing a termination bar, lap sealant and water cut off mastic. It's really simple to do. Click the link here to watch how it's done, thanks! www.rubber4roofs.co.uk/how-to-install-a-termination-bar-video-and-installation-guide
@Tattytyres
@Tattytyres 3 жыл бұрын
Do i need to use tongue and grooved osb or can i just use normal 8x4 osb3 sheets 18mm thick? Big difference in price thanks
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mathew OSB3 Square edge will be fine and is perfectly adequate for EPDM installation. Although in our experience tongue & groove can be useful when dealing with inconsistent joist spans and uneven joists as the tongue & groove will give a better finish as the board edges will be pretty much invisible for single ply installations such as CLASSICBOND, Firestone, Hertalan etc.
@Tattytyres
@Tattytyres 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs hi when i fit osb18mm 8x4 sheets im going to fit noggjns, is it ok to fill the 2-3mm expansion gap with d4 expanding wood glue thanks
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tattytyres whilst I doubt this has been tested for compatibility with the EPDM adhesive I can see D4 is an expanding PU so my gut feeling is it should be absolutely fine. Might be worth a quick test patch to be on the safe side though.
@Tattytyres
@Tattytyres 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you are you able to supply everything i need to complete the flat roof ill see if you have a website and contact thanks
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tattytyres just visit Rubber4roofs.co.uk there’s a handy roof kit builder which will calculate everything you need with a few simple clicks 👍🏻
@kmah1974
@kmah1974 3 жыл бұрын
Can this be applied over an existing felt roof, or do I need to remove the roof and the change the ply/deck below?
@quazn8r
@quazn8r 3 жыл бұрын
Remove and replace everything, you don’t want anything in between your bond and what you’re bonding to. Preferably a new clean surface is perfect.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan exactly right! Bond directly to a fresh OSB board. Old roofing membranes and felt may be high in moisture content and trapping this under a new membrane may cause the roof to fail. Also particularly the solvent based contact adhesive will soften the felt causing oils to leach out why will affect the life expectancy of the EPDM rubber membrane.
@Battyman3658
@Battyman3658 3 жыл бұрын
It depends as long as what you are applying to is smooth then your fine but I wouldn't put it ontop of felt myself
@megg7558
@megg7558 Жыл бұрын
What do you charge for it and how long does it takes. I got two roofs, one is 8x11 and 16x21. How many rolls and bucket of glue will I need?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs Жыл бұрын
Hi there, You can quickly and simply get a price for those roof's using our kit calculator! Here's a link: www.rubber4roofs.co.uk/classicbond-calculator
@passenger3
@passenger3 3 жыл бұрын
How much is a 4x3 meter roof ?
@passenger3
@passenger3 3 жыл бұрын
£310
@joshuacassino7297
@joshuacassino7297 3 жыл бұрын
no insulation first?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! EPDM would be fitted to the top board of your roofing build up
@funnyharleyman
@funnyharleyman 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if you can apply this adhesive to stained wood? I have some OSB that’s already stained to sheet my new lean too and I’d like to use it. Thanks.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi funnyharleyman If the Timber is not porous then the Water based adhesive will not bond the membrane to the substrate correctly. You can use the Contact adhesive shown being used around the perimeter of the roof across the entire area if this is the case.
@khman1983
@khman1983 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to sound stupid, but isn't the membrane coated later with a roof coating?
@historygal7
@historygal7 2 жыл бұрын
I live in deep south Texas. Is this roof system recommended for high heat/extreme UV areas like ours? I'm going to be redoing our flat roof and I really want something that will last for a good bit.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi V S This Epdm membrane will not crack, peel or split within the temperature range of -40ºC to +120ºC. It also has great UV resistant properties.
@historygal7
@historygal7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs Wow! Yup, that's what I'm looking for. Thank you so much!
@AnitaAndrews-nk9du
@AnitaAndrews-nk9du Жыл бұрын
. You have forgotten to say that the gutter back plate needs nailing on before the rubber is put on. Otherwise, very useful.
@artur198555
@artur198555 5 ай бұрын
Hi , flat roof but still need some drop isn't ? Can someone please tell me what would be roof slope for 3.5m projection canopy?
@N.JPlasteringServices
@N.JPlasteringServices 4 ай бұрын
Buy 3inch to nothing ferings
@Kyle_Hubbard
@Kyle_Hubbard 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive the ignorance. Can this be applied and tied into a fibreglass roof? My mum has had some people do some real bodge jobs, the felt roof that she had done some years ago has started to peel and crack, I suspect they used the cheapest felt and therefore the life span was limited. It's started to leak and with the prices people want to charge I was wondering if this could be tied onto a fibreglass roof.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Kyle Sorry to hear your Mum is having trouble with her roofs. It depends what you mean by tied in to a Fibreglass roof. Epdm can be used to overlay Fibreglass as long as the roof is in sound condition and the Fibreglass is not delaminating. Contact adhesive would need to be used to bond the whole membrane in this case. If you need further advise on this please contact us on 02476667234.
@johannesswillery7855
@johannesswillery7855 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to get rubber roofing?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Johanness Thanks for your comment and for watching our video. You could try our online store: www.rubber4roofs.co.uk If you need any assistance please get in touch.
@WalterA.Garcia-wf3bx
@WalterA.Garcia-wf3bx 9 ай бұрын
Que no se le echa pegamento al hule??
@hildamorrison2003
@hildamorrison2003 3 жыл бұрын
So is this EPDM the same as what is used for swimming pools? I need a piece that is 10 feet x 15 feet sent to me in Spanish Ontario Canada along with the stuff to glue it down. Where can I order it?
@darland3821
@darland3821 3 жыл бұрын
Rubber4roofs
@IMOLDIN
@IMOLDIN 3 жыл бұрын
How does this fair with pigeons?
@IMOLDIN
@IMOLDIN 3 жыл бұрын
Company in Leeds UK please we in a bad situation after losing our roof the company placed ashfelt on and we'll its still leaking.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Onehuman We actually made a video about this very question! Check out this link to find out more! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6G9dGqcor6Ie9U
@christinenaylor4912
@christinenaylor4912 Жыл бұрын
Please can you advise on this problem, we have had this rubber roof installed on our garage, now we have water coming in from the roof like a sieve and the person who installed it says its condensation, its soaked everything that was in storage.... please tell us how to fix it because the person who installed it is taking so long getting back to us we have to act ourselves....thank you
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs Жыл бұрын
Hi Christine Sorry to hear you are having issues with your roof. Condensation can be an issue with roofs over rooms with poor ventilation. In order to advise the best course of action, we need a little more information. Firstly, how long has the membrane been installed? Are there any electrical appliances in the garage? Are there any air bricks installed within the walls of the garage?
@ВікторКолчин
@ВікторКолчин 4 ай бұрын
Person installed your roof doesn’t understand how to instal roof system. He should install vents for roof
@mikeahern3999
@mikeahern3999 3 жыл бұрын
How much does the membrane cost ?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
£8.95/m2 approximately
@MU-ph7um
@MU-ph7um 3 жыл бұрын
Would this work on a concrete flat garage roof?
@nelljamina419
@nelljamina419 3 жыл бұрын
my question too - would board need to be laid first?
@youradumbass9481
@youradumbass9481 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Felt board get's glued to the cement first for a soft base under the rubber. unlike the mistake in the video.
@mrsaeedahmedtarar7282
@mrsaeedahmedtarar7282 2 жыл бұрын
Great product and very useful stuff
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you comments, we are happy you found this video useful.
@Dasani_water_drinker
@Dasani_water_drinker Жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofsin what states do you operate in?
@FD-ms2nm
@FD-ms2nm Жыл бұрын
So easy on a 1 foot tall roof lol
@nicomunoz6294
@nicomunoz6294 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Quick question: if I’m doing a flat roof on top of a bay window, what material do I use where the roof meets the brick of my house? Currently it looks like a sort of rubber. Thanks.
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico. The EPDM rubber membrane can be fitted in one piece over the roof and up the brick wall 150mm. Then install a lead wall flashing over the rubber membrane. If you check out the video on our KZbin channel “How to fit a wall flashing.
@nicomunoz6294
@nicomunoz6294 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rubber4Roofs Thanks for explaining that, I'll check out that video too!
@Keeping-It-Real-55
@Keeping-It-Real-55 3 жыл бұрын
Question if I'm installing a simple 10 x 10' EPDM rubber roof. What is a cheap glue to use I don't want to buy a whole gallon and only use a quart. Does anyone know an alternative small amount of EPDM to Wood adhesive?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tommy. The waterbased deck adhesive supplied by the EPDM manufacturers is the obvious choice in the uk a 10’x10’ (3m x 3m) can be fitted with 2.5litres around £20.00. I’m no aware of a cheaper adhesive that will cope with the temperatures on a roof.
@JudasBytes
@JudasBytes 4 жыл бұрын
I'm doing rainwater collection from my roof. Is your product safe for drinking rainwater?
@ddpeak1
@ddpeak1 4 жыл бұрын
How polluted is your rain?
@Edward-xj4mp
@Edward-xj4mp 3 жыл бұрын
Why apply the rubber to a hard surface? Wouldn't a lawyer of foam insulation provide better protection to hail?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Edward. This isn’t a problem we generally get in the UK although we have shot a video showing how tough EPDM is dropping hammers & branches on the roof etc.
@TheUkGrimekid
@TheUkGrimekid 3 жыл бұрын
Don't see why you have to use a different adhesive for the perimeter?
@williamdafoe3567
@williamdafoe3567 3 жыл бұрын
It's a much stronger adhesive and protects against wind damage. The last thing you wants is a solid piece of rubber flying off and exposing your entire roof to rain and hail.
@shrimpercj
@shrimpercj 3 жыл бұрын
would this be suitable on a car port?
@JM-jr4pr
@JM-jr4pr 3 жыл бұрын
My garage is a double which is attached to another neighbours garage. How would i achieve a join with their felt? Also under our felt it is wooden planks instead of boards
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi JM. One way to join to the felt is a termination bar. I’ve put the link in here to a video. www.rubber4roofs.co.uk/how-to-install-a-termination-bar-video-and-installation-guide
@ianosullivan5303
@ianosullivan5303 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have installed this epdm rubber roof with trims on osb3 t&g. I very small pin holes/ nearly visible to the naked eye in the epdm, can a epdm roof be coated with something to stop it leaking? Thanks
@sheasierzega1599
@sheasierzega1599 3 жыл бұрын
Gaco roof patch is solid. Have stopped some big leaks. A little pricey but it works
@imhungry2387
@imhungry2387 3 жыл бұрын
Yes just patch it
@happysunshine1988
@happysunshine1988 Ай бұрын
My neighbours never used glue on their flat roof. I wonder, what will happen 🤔
@chrisbeaver9917
@chrisbeaver9917 11 күн бұрын
They had two guys pull the folded rubber lol
@ironjohn5914
@ironjohn5914 11 ай бұрын
They charge a left kidney and a lung to do this, better off to do it yourself, remember to play good country music and have cold drink available...
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 11 ай бұрын
Hi @ironjohn5914 Whilst we agree it is easy to DIY on many simple freestanding buildings, you can't beat the experience of a trained installer on more complex projects with a lot of detailing work required such as Skylights, Pipework and Joins etc.
@gabriellechapman7261
@gabriellechapman7261 3 ай бұрын
704 Arvid Roads
@jaroslawsobaszek3682
@jaroslawsobaszek3682 2 жыл бұрын
Great when the roof is 30 cm high 😅
@AlexanderValentine-b2u
@AlexanderValentine-b2u 3 ай бұрын
Brown Island
@ScottGarcia-z9z
@ScottGarcia-z9z 3 ай бұрын
Maggie Lake
@jamjarxxxx
@jamjarxxxx 3 жыл бұрын
50yrs life lol, stick a 3 layer high performance felt system , looks better lasts longer and won't cost you 3or 4 time as much
@waynerichards8208
@waynerichards8208 4 жыл бұрын
wayne
@stephenm8133
@stephenm8133 Жыл бұрын
Yeah - any fools can look expert when the roof they are working on is only a foot off the ground ffs
@EdmundPenny-g9w
@EdmundPenny-g9w 3 ай бұрын
Taylor Mary Miller Amy Johnson Linda
@dustymcdust5095
@dustymcdust5095 3 жыл бұрын
Eeewww water based glue? Trash! I have installed multiple roofs with epdm rubber some over 500 sq, I'm talking 50-70 10×100' rolls, I have worked with multiple manufacturers, Carlisle, Firestone, John's Manville, Garland, etc put the roof on the convention center in Columbus ohio lots of high profile jobs, do yourself a favor and do not use nails on your edge metal and go with a heavy gage metal for your drip edge with a cleat, NO NAILS use screws to fasten your cleat through the face of the cleat into the side of your nailer, attach your drip edge metal to your cleat and fasten with 1.5"-2" screws through the top of the dripedge to the top of your nailer and strip in the metal with epdm cover strip, also don't cheap out and glue straight to the deck, do yourself a favor and get .5" HD iso board to fasten to your deck, this shit is not designed to be glued straight to a wooden deck like this, the high density board has a paper face on it designed to take the glue and adhere properly, if done right these roofs will last 20 years +, done like this aka (the Amish style) you will probably have issues in 10-15, also there are things such as wind enhancements that should be done on the underside of epdm rubber called russ strip that will keep heavy winds from working your material loose around the perimeter of the structure and then all that water based glue will separate after the perimeter is loosened up and all them nails you used for your metal will go with it.... btw I'm a industrial roofing foreman in the unionif you wanna know my credentials
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dusty, some great comments on there! The system is Carlisle. In the UK on residential roofs and here I’m talking under 100sqm the waterbased adhesive with stainless poly pins and the clamp edge trim system is approved by Carlisle. On the big stuff commercial and 100sqm plus we specify 100% solvent based adhesives and RUSS perimeter securement. Just picking up on the previous guys comments the approved timber deck over here is OSB3 oriented strand board. Personally I would bond to tissue faced insulation with contact but in some cases application will be on to a cold deck roof design. As I say Dusty thanks for your comments it’s great to hear from someone fitting this to big roofs 👍🏻
@naumortiz7536
@naumortiz7536 3 жыл бұрын
acaso un trabajo no tiene detalles supuesta mente son afuera esto es pura basura háganlo afuera y con detalles lolus
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Point noted
@ENDEAVOURSYourmother-yd6ki
@ENDEAVOURSYourmother-yd6ki 10 ай бұрын
Well that was waistful, could have done this on someone's roof who needed it and made for a better more realistic video
@garethwynn01
@garethwynn01 Ай бұрын
Every time they step off the roof they are cheating!
@chrisc6
@chrisc6 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@eddydar
@eddydar 3 жыл бұрын
What sheet materials can be used here plywood or osb?
@Rubber4Roofs
@Rubber4Roofs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi E Dar both are fine for installing EPDM. Just avoid pre-sealed or bitumen painted boards.
@stevemiller8794
@stevemiller8794 Жыл бұрын
Can the membrane be use on a 10 degree slightly pitched roof, thanks
@aboston5740
@aboston5740 Жыл бұрын
yes. epdm is often used on commercial and residential high rises with a 0 degree roof. so 10 degree is not an issue
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