How to install CCTV Like a PRO

[@utterlyexiged]

You're right to hard wire to the router, powerlines and wifi extenders will always drop out at some point as you said, and anyone arguing that cat6 is required for CCTV is struggling with simple maths. Uplinks from switches yes, but from a single camera to the NVR with even a 4k camera will only need around 5mbps with H265, including the sub stream. The POE ports are usually 10/100 anyway.

[@golden695]

Amazing n very informative!🙂

[@Gjbsecurityandalarms]

As an installer this as got to be one of the neatest installs I’ve seen in a while top job. I’ve never seen the cavity explained as well as you did how many times have you made an error before you got it spot on lol. I’ll def be following you

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@Gjbsecurityandalarms a couple… 😭 it’s still is nerve wracking when I’ve got a full 600mm bit in a wall and it’s still hammering 😩😭

[@justintemp]

@@harrysolutionsltd7254 did you have to patch up holes and try again having loads of patches on failed attempts?

[@avtarchana609]

The wiring part and the camera instalation is good, however the location of the recording (VCR) unit is less than satisfactory. The attic gets really hot during the summer and the really cold during the winter. Both these extremes are outside the VCR's specifications. I'm also concerned about the wiring under the gravel from security point of view🙏

[@Sparkyjedi]

Cannot fault how neat and tidy your install is 🤩 , the only thing I’m wondering about is cutting out the internal timber on the gable end does that effect the 10 year NHBC warranty as it’s a new build ?

[@SBBUK]

Maybe, but they'd probably need to prove that it caused whatever problem they're fixing. That being said the hole cut seemed a lot bigger than necessary to me. I probably would've used a holesaw just big enough to get a few fingers/pliers in and grab the rod. But each to their own. You could also probably glue the piece of wood back in after the job once a more suitable sized hole for the cable had been made.

[@Flo-xl7zv]

No, it wouldn't as long as it was patched back correctly and mastic applied

[@Hastings1066TV]

Certainly don't need cat 6 or more for these distances. But the outdoor rating will certainly help the lifespan and is tougher than normal 5e. A single 1080p analogue camera uses approximately 150-200kbps, so that's about a fifth of 1Mbps ! Good clear vid. Thanks

[@MarkUKInsects]

Personally, I would have used cat6, where I buy it from the price difference is very negligible, I do need cat6 for other jobs, so makes seance to just have the one. Also, future proofing, who knows what cameras we will have in 10-20 years time? 8k and even 16k exist commercially, overkill for home just now, but in the future? What are you saving 50p on cable for the whole job? I sometimes have cat7, price difference is huge. Wouldn't use that here.

[@simonhep]

Nice work. With the hard drive in the loft does mean that it’s difficult to have monitor showing live cctv in a convenient place. We put them in a living area like kitchen so the homeowner can see a live feed all the time with multi camera view. It’s a faff to open the app all the time. Guess it depends what the customer wants.

[@Brian77766]

Wireless hdmi transmitter with usb for the mouse is how you do it. About £180 for the transmitter and receiver from Amazon. They work well for cctv. Frame rates can skip sometimes, that’s why you see bad reviews for them on Amazon, they don’t work well for live sky sports you see.

[@smitcher]

Depending on the recorder then you can access that over the network with a simple £30 thin client, old laptop or Raspberry Pi and old monitor...

[@OriginUnknownD]

Really helpful install video, thanks for taking the time to film and curate for KZbin-land. Question on those NVRs if I may, do they cope ok in the loft space given some fairly large temperature extremes?

[@FatJoeFilms]

I've had a HiLook 4k NVR in my loft for 5 years (UK) and it's never missed a beat :)

[@ProfessorCodemunkie]

Lovely install 👌 Although I hate how bulky the junction boxes for the cameras are! I drilled a bigger hole to fit the entire camera cable through the brickwork so I could mount the camera directly to the wall 😂

[@chrisgrainger5374]

I’m planning to upgrade my CCTV system to a Poe system not sure yet what cameras to get. At the moment I have my CCTV on my father and soffits but I see most cctv installed at upstairs window sill hight which is the best place?

[@MikeBroom]

I don't understand why you couldn't run the router cabling in the cavity as well as the camera cables? All going to the same place so makes no sense to me why you changed your method... Otherwise looks a fab job 👌

[@smitcher]

probably because the cameras are at 1st floor level and the router is at ground. To drill upwards at same angle would require him to be standing in a 3 foot deep hole and to rod up 2 storeys is more than twice as difficult. Of course you could do it 1 floor at a time, drilling up and down at the same 1st floor mortar joint but it's 100x more difficult to fish the wire towards a hole than towards a huge opening in the loft...

[@SBBUK]

It would've been difficult to get that cable inside as it's up 2 stories. You can't go up the cavity as there will be trays etc in the way (and personally i'm not convinced about cables in the cavity full stop, to be honest - low voltage isn't technically covered under electrical regs but I would still personally comply with them). So in order to do so you'd need to go on the inside of the wall behind the plasterboard. Not impossible but probably a lot of "making good" that they didn't want to get involved with. You'd have to cut several access holes into the plasterboard inside the property, then make it through the floor (probably requiring lifting of the carpet and an access hole in the floor), then another set of holes on the second floor wall.

[@sleeping_sheep_slayer_9000]

nice video mate im your 620th subscriber👍

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Thanks you!!

[@xMeta4x]

Such a shame to run all those cables for the cameras in the cavity, then have non-armoured cable running under gravel then up the wall. About as secure as a pair of snips.

[@yngndrw.]

It will still record without that one, if you're concerned about security rather than accidental damage.

[@xMeta4x]

@@yngndrw. Ah yeah, hadn't considered it's only the router connection.

[@Meza201]

I don’t understand why they didn’t use the same method of going through the cavity for the router connection cable after making a song and dance about it earlier.

[@smitcher]

@@Meza201 probably because the cameras are at 1st floor level and the router is at ground. To drill upwards at same angle would require him to be standing in a 3 foot deep hole and to rod up 2 storeys is more than twice as difficult. Of course you could do it 1 floor at a time, drilling up and down at the same 1st floor mortar joint but it's 100x more difficult to fish the wire towards a hole than towards a huge opening in the loft...

[@xMeta4x]

@@Meza201 I agree, but now I'm wondering if it's a newer house, it may have a something in the cavity to stop fire rising, that the fishing rods might not be able to go through.

[@PeteMulv]

Cracking job, to get from the router to the NVR have you tried IP over mains, I use them to get from my house to my workshop, they can handle 250 Mb so more than enough for most broadband connections.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@PeteMulv thanks for comment! I have tried them in the past and they make the installs so easy however, if there’s any drop in the connection or latency (delay) in the stream it’ll make the app run awful

[@chris-mm6oh]

So nice to see someone doing it the right way for a change 😊

[@AubsUK]

Any concerns about causing moisture bridging within the cavity? I just did a quick search and came across a video from eFIXX, titled CAN ELECTRICIANS INSTALL CABLES IN A CAVITY WALL. I know the CAT5e/6 isn't carrying mains power, but it's interesting about how the cabling can become degraded by some cavity insulation, if there is any.

[@stephenoreilly12]

Are you worried about the dust and extremes of temperature affecting the recorder when it is in the attic?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@stephenoreilly12 not hugely, I’ve seen some recorders stuffed into tiny cupboards in fabrication workshops and they just don’t die 😂😂

[@helinghaus]

@@harrysolutionsltd7254 the bosses did in his office, but more so the cooling fan in it did

[@ShieldJesus420]

You should see the state of my workshop and the nvrs that survive in there😂we also sometimes have to install them on site inside an IP box and they survive

[@TheBranston111]

Another informative video, thank you. Please could you review/compare the HiLook series?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@TheBranston111 keep your eyes peeled 👀

[@ArunKumar-rn4up]

Sir how cc cameras are kept inside the wall. It happens, please reply me bro. There are cement and brics are there. Please tell me 😮

[@tbaymyhome]

We live in North Ontario in Canada. Coldest season around -20 C. Does POE make security camera heater?

[@eddieMurphy11111]

on new builds now the cavity must be 150 mm our house is an old terrace house and i put the cables under the floor and it pops up where the control unt is but this house is terrible for getting the signal into other rooms thanks for the video

[@thpxs0554]

That’s great work, I worked for BT for 30 years and saw some horrors, mostly perpetrated by my colleagues, black wires clipped to white skirtings, one moron clipped a black drop wire ( overhead feed wire) around the edge of the customers coving across their living room, because he couldn’t be bothered to move the furniture, change the wire and go round under the carpet… ( not allowed to move furniture not allowed to lift carpet edges ) but the old lady didn’t seem bothered, but the service had still failed almost immediately. Another moron drilled the wall with a 600mm drill and drilled the piano. I could write a book on the appalling work done by some of them .

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Unfortunately we've seen some horrors also from Openreach / virgin engineers... I'm by no means saying you're all bad as I've met some cracking lads! that being said, we recently had a broadband connection delayed on install because the engineer didn't have his ticket to use power tools 😂

[@str0w4er]

@thpxs0554 - Seeing you worked for BT/Openreach, do you not recognise the ladders? lol

[@thpxs0554]

@@str0w4er looks like the later Ladder 5B . The earlier ones had a cable pole rest across the top, wooden feet and weighed a ton . The later ones with the ali pole rest were much better. I still use my old 5B at home .

[@ThisIsJamesL]

Why did you not run hdmi and mouse (hardwire or bluetooth dongle) from the nvr to a tv for monitoring/config etc?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@ThisIsJamesL not many customers want the cameras on their TV.. the app is the main way we setup viewing for the customer

[@hank.marvin]

​@harrysolutionsltd7254 I prefer mine as a standalone system, I'm not really comfortable with these companies having access to that kind of data, I know they say it can't be hacked, but you never know, I do plug mine in if I go away and my NVR is in the bedroom plugged into a 40" TV for 2 reasons my NVR has an audible alarm when it detects motion which I wouldn't hear in the loft and also the extreme temperature changes can't be good for it in the loft. I installed the system after we got burgled last year and it's made the mrs feel much safer and already proved itself invaluable, one police officer said he was impressed 😂

[@christinekiy8647]

Great video really enjoyed it, One question though about the recorder, isnt the loft to hot for locating it especially in the summer.

[@dj_paultuk7052]

Yes it is. The HDD will die within 1 year.

[@justintemp]

What do you do if theres insulatuon? Drill somewhere else?

[@hank.marvin]

Run them outside and up through the sofit. just use external cable and pin it to the wall and have junction boxes for the connection where you plug the camera into. I'm happy with my installation. it looks neat and tidy, I placed my NVR in my bedroom as I figured if they made that far, I have bigger problems 😂.

[@clintharshaw]

why didnt you run the internet feed up into loft the same as cameras via the cavity?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Cavity drilling internally is even more risky... you've gotta have balls of steel 😂 one wrong move and you're re-plastering someones under stairs.

[@jayp913]

Putting CAT 6A would have given the customer scalability for the future. A cheap cable doesn’t necessarily mean a cheap job for the customer. Also what a shame you didn’t use armoured cable to bury outside.

[@waynemoate9401]

Agree no need for Cat 6 or 6a. 5e supports a gig, and most cameras only use 10s of megs

[@KimSweeney-b6i]

Cat 6 would future proof the instal

[@Messimagician83]

What junction box is that you use which doesn't have the gland sticking out? Do they fit the G2 and new Hybrid Ip cameras?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Its a DM21 base - The neck unscrews and I believe fits all the G2 series cameras

[@KataholosLeadership]

Brilliant video! ☺️👏👏

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Thank you!

[@fwzmhmd]

how do you install the camera on an uneven wall, meaning the brick wall has decorative tiling.

[@chriztian8130]

i want to apply

[@electronbox]

The job looks very neat, but the external wire is not great. I would have configured a redundant link using a wifi extender, so if the wire is damaged or cut, it will failover, maintaining the system integrity.

[@MrBinabanana]

A good approach in principle, but good luck finding an ISP-supplied broadband router which supports LACP or STP 🙂 And it wouldn't protect against the WAN copper/fibre being cut which is also externally accessible.

[@cag9284]

Nice, when your house is made primarily out of stud and plaster board and faced with fascia blocks.... try doing that with a 1930s solid brick house.....

[@zjzozn]

Do you need to comply with building and wiring regs?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@zjzozn as far as I know there are very little regulations for installing network cabling

[@bernieeccles2093]

Could droplng cables down the cavity induce damp on interior wall as cable could be touchind outside wall and interior wall simutainiously ?

[@MagicRat]

Approved Document C, 5.13 b)

[@MagicRat]

@@harrysolutionsltd7254 BS7671, BSEN50174, Building Regs…..

[@RyanJ_]

I would avoid putting equipment like DVRs in the loft if possible. The temperature up there can swing from ~0C to over 40C over the course of a day, and this constant cycle of temperature change could shorten the life of electronic equipment like hard drives. Condensation can also form in loft spaces when it's cold, which can also impact the life of electronics. A DVR would be much happier in the living space. Edit: I don't know that specific device, but it looks like you blocked the air vent holes by screwing it to the timber.

[@chrishorrocks4882]

Nice to see cavity drops, all i see is cat5 or rj45 thrown over the roof!

[@JRowe95]

Where doing so well until you did that run for the router. That hurts my soul.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@JRowe95 😂😂😂

[@keving331]

Wouldn’t Wi-Fi cameras have been better - much easier to install and cheaper (including cheaper to upgrade when the time comes). I’m using a couple of Tapo WiFi cameras outside, cost around £110 combined, self-installed, battery lasts 5 to 6 months before recharging, all perfect.

[@MrBinabanana]

If it works for you then great but, to be honest, there aren't many installers who would want to install and guarantee a battery-powered wireless system for a client. With the above system, Pete can walk away and pretty much guarantee no callbacks, however there are just too many things to go wrong with wireless and battery-dependent devices in terms of local interference, signal jammers, WiFi signal strength and attenuation in any given property, and the expectation for the customer to have to go up a ladder every six months to change batteries.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Should I do a side by side comparison of WiFi vs wired CCTV? 🤔

[@hank.marvin]

Wired is best

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

Sad world we live in that we even need CCTV 😢

[@helinghaus]

good video, couldn't do it to my house though :) no fines

[@stranglx]

Luckily certain types of cavity insulation doesn’t degrade pvc cable insulation… oh wait, it does!

[@Ginger-Tom13]

What kind of area has the homeowner moved to if they need 4 security cameras?!?!

[@LG23223]

Very good, but how you can move the loft insulation with just your hands 😂 my hands would be ruined for days

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

The new wool they use is nothing like the old stuff... The bright yellow loft insulation is the worst. Itching for days 😒

[@LG23223]

@@harrysolutionsltd7254 ohh really ? Ohh that’s good to know, iv always just used gloves since the first time I did it just incase 😂🫣

[@zjzozn]

Running cables in cavities is neat. But I think Electrical wiring should not really run in the cavity !

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@zjzozn totally get it, but the cables we install carry very little voltage

[@andysims4906]

Your right they shouldn’t be in cavities but who cares . I would prefer the wires not showing so i would do the same .

[@lawrencemanning]

In theory they can bridge the cavity, passing moisture into the interskin, but it sounds like nonsense to me. But not a builder etc. Only question would be on the ten year guarantee if it’s a new build, otherwise…

[@shanedavies9369]

I'm not sure it's a good idea to place the recorder in the loft, what with all the micro fibreglass particles being sucked in.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

You want to see some the car garages and fabrication workshops we've seen in the past 😂

[@Flo-xl7zv]

Is it as easy on a timber frame?

[@hank.marvin]

Nope, it's easier just to run them externally.

[@VTepesIII]

Better having wire where they can be seen but not reached as there are too many fake cameras now and theyll just think they arnt real and still try amd get in.

[@dj_paultuk7052]

That mechanical HDD is not going to survive in that loft. Summer temps will be 40-45c up there, meaning the HDD will hit 70c at least, and then fail very quickly. The ethernet run was shocking really, i would have done a better job than that. Plus i would have put a small network switch in the loft and then the customer could fit an upstairs WiFi AP to give far superior coverage.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

I could've also built them a loft conversion with a cinema room but I only quoted for CCTV 😂

[@davidgibsonphotography]

PPE?

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

PPE.... Never heard of her ;)

[@58slewins31]

nice job, i learnt something. Except the holes you used to mount the control box, are ventilation, not mounting. Did you put a "spacer" behind the unit? I would have done the same (using the cavity,), except, my house is 1930's and doesnt have a cavity.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Yeah... I wouldn't panic about that. Here in the north we have more cold months than warm 😂

[@lawrencemanning]

Looks great though I think you devalue the house by making it look a bit like a prison. Depends on the neighbourhood I guess.

[@SmanEDITS]

I wish my walls were this hollow :( i have nearly 50cm thick brick wall

[@BillsCountrysideAdventures]

Few things I'd have done if I'd have done pro install, black cases as everything on the house is black, Cat6 for future proofing and cable strains a must. Silicone the holes after drilling. Baby wipe them green horrible holes. Get a gopro less shake and wider angle and more mounting options.

[@paulhodgins]

Only the down spouts are black - white windows and soffits.....a lot more white. Just saying.

[@MrBinabanana]

Totally with Pete using externally-rated CAT5e - there is no debate amongst those whose entire careers have revolved around data infrastructure. In the highly unlikely scenario that CCTV cameras at some point in the future require greater that 1Gbps, it'll be so far away that we'll all be dead and buried and the house will have been demolished. More costly, larger holes, more difficult to pull, greater radiusing required at bends; I'm all for future proofing where appropriate, but there just aren't any upsides to using CAT6 or any higher standards.

[@mda5003]

Yes, hidden wires on newer properties is a must.

[@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway]

Shame the music wiped out the important information you were speaking about. A common YT error

[@markylon]

Address shown, thieves now know where the cables are and how to CUT them off. Really bad GDPR compliance here. I would NOT be happy if this was my house!! at 06:14 you show the connection QR code, which is easily viewable and easily scannable using the HK connect app. THIS IS APPALLING PRIVACY BREACH

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

That QR code was our test rig at the office 😜

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

That QR code was our test rig at the office 😜

[@markylon]

@@harrysolutionsltd7254 still you should protect the address.

[@noz3m]

I'd suggest making it future proof and running CAT6, it's not even that much of a price increase.

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

In some cases CAT6 external grade can be up to 30% more expensive and we usually buy 5 or 6 boxes in one go

[@supaflynina1881]

was great until you run the ethernet outside the house! not secure at all, as many people have said about as secure as a pair of snips. anyone can cut the cable and get into your network, they'd be able to watch you from outside the house lmao

[@Elfin4]

I was thought current electrical regulations dont allow electrical cables in cavities now

[@cr4zyj4m1e87]

LV cabling.

[@H.F446]

Covering cable with gravel?! Clipping up behind the drain pipe?! Cables just tucked in underneath or placed on top of the insulation?! Is this a joke? The video was good until then. The word "professional" doesn't mean what it used to, I suppose.

[@markbutcher9519]

Always cat6, sooner or later you will want a better camera/ quality

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

@@markbutcher9519 that is true… but even the 4k camera’s Hik currently make only run at 10/100 speed

[@db_2112]

Nonsense, cat 5e can easily support up to 16k video, zero chance it'll ever need more

[@dank9561]

I have Cat5e running 10 Gbps just fine around my house.

[@makhan4908]

I recommend WiFi Wireless cameras

[@harrysolutionsltd7254]

Should i do a side by side test of WiFi and wired??? 🤔

[@KristinRobinson-d2q]

What a neat job all well done ,BUT!!! I bet all that drilling Roding poking and entry to the roof space would be a big time charge to us the customer, 2024 just keep it simple and get the new modern day wifi cameras no buff and great audio save the extra charge .🥵🥵🥵

[@BunkerMentality]

And how are you powering that wifi camera? One way or another, you need to run a cable to the camera, whether it’s PoE, USB or DC.

[@grahampalmer]

Wifi signals can be disrupted by thieves using cheap easy to buy kit. You lose your video feed.

[@KristinRobinson-d2q]

@@grahampalmer Rubbish

[@BenofYoutube]

Load of rubbish. WiFi security is not proper security, it's flakey, slow and not guaranteed to record when you need it. WiFi jammers are also a problem, we've had X2 houses around where I am done over using them as well. WiFi cameras are purely for people who want a form of deterrent but on a budget. The type of customer to pay for this kind of install will pay it no issues because security is important. Cameras like this also record 24/7 so no missed detections, no missed recordings and none of the faff with having to charge, swap batteries or plug in.

[@billyg1uk]

Where are your safety glasses when using an electric drill?? Professional I don't think so!!