How to Install Race Suspension on Your Car: AUDI R8

This is the step by step guide of what it takes to install JRZ RS Pro's on a 2009 Audi R8. We removed the original magnetic ride because the shocks were leaking badly and the JRZ's are cheaper and more reliable than stock OEM parts. We also painted the calipers is pearl red, changed the oil, and aligned the R8 before my trip home. This process was crazy fun to film, hope you enjoy the video! -L
For more info check the links below:
www.sstauto.com
www.jrzsuspension.com
www.proformanceindustries.com
www.olsenmotorsports.net
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[@Pappderbarp]

"Yes honey i HAD to put the race suspension in, the old one was broken!"

[@inMotionOutdoors]

That shop knows what they are doing!

[@MiddleEasternGuy]

Always love how thorough your videos are, it might sound weird but it’s relaxing to listen to you explain. ✌🏼

[@Infamousjae107]

MiddleEasternGuy 100% agreed with how calm Larry’s explanations are lol

[@fngnius]

AMMO ASMR

[@zachwalkup525]

Right?

[@HubersRanch]

It's not just audi that uses lug bolts. Most European manufacturers use them.

[@Xfacehack]

Huber's Ranch Yepp, my old volvo had it, my old passat from 98 had it. And my bmw 2009 have it. To me, lug nut are weird...

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

Aren't bolts simply just cheaper and that's why? Not as strong but cheaper and strong enough

[@SerenaBluee]

I much prefer studs and lug nuts to lug bolts, it makes it much easier to line the wheel up when putting it back on. Most European production cars use bolts, as confirmed by comments above and your own statement, but almost all racing cars are adapted to stud and nut for their convenience when changing wheels.

[@Xfacehack]

NatoriousGamePlay I say that how strong either option are depends mostly on how thick the steel is. And what kind of steel is used. I know i heard cheaper many times. But if they cheaper they can spend the money they save on thicker bolts?

[@Xfacehack]

Serena Hansen Since i have not worked on cars with lugs, simply don't see the problem. Line up the wheel and put an bolt in? How hard can it be? I have removed and installed my rear wheels on and off like four times this month. Not lift...

[@obieoberstar]

I work on R8's. There is nothing simple about an oil change. It is not a 4 cylinder A4. Glad you went into the details about checking the oil level and how to correctly check it. All were spot on. Would like to add that the drain plug at the rear of the engine near the cross member is a difficult one to get out without the special 8mm triple square tool that Audi offers. Really like your ride. Tastefully done.

[@thecasualrider2668]

i love how you made them feel special by signing the reservoir.respect.

[@KingDemon94]

Larry's face when he saw the dirt lol cool stuff as always

[@MrRangerZr1]

R8 looking sick larry.

[@SerenaBluee]

mynameisray "Better car" is entirely subjective. No one car is better at everything, it's all about what the person wants to experience. For some, an 800hp car that is only useful for highway pulls is better to some, and would generally get more internet cred, but some would much prefer to drive a car with 200hp that is more dynamic and handles the way they want it to. Larry fell in love with the Audi R8 ten years ago, and spent time waiting for the car that was perfect FOR HIM to come up for him to purchase. He worked hard towards his dream, which is probably a whole lot more than you will ever do.

[@SerenaBluee]

A Civic is much cheaper (to buy, insure, tax, and repair/replace parts), more economical and more practical than a GTR. They are both "better" than the other for what they were designed for. Performance should not always only be considered in its quantity. Would you care to list some examples of cars that are "better" than an Audi R8 for the price paid for this one? Admittedly, an R8 would not be my choice if I had the money, but I likely have a very different set of needs from a car than you or Larry do.

[@SerenaBluee]

mynameisray No answer to that?

[@SerenaBluee]

I had asked you to list some examples of cars that are objectively better than an Audi R8 for the money, and I would also like to hear your views on my point of Civics being "better"/more suitable for certain situations. But I won't keep you if you are busy enough to reply within ten minutes.

[@SerenaBluee]

I'm happy to wait. Google can't give me your opinion.

[@HUszeman]

Every time I hear, I am amazed by the fact that you worked and dreamed 10 years to have an Audi R8. It is well deserved Larry! : ) On the other side, I found it very interesting from the comments, that from the states you are eager to have European cars (BMW, Audi, and Mercedes, sometimes an Alfa Romeo) while it is perceived as average here. We rather hunger for Mustangs and Challengers. :D. I guess people wants more rare cars against the "environment" they living. Greetings from 400 miles from München ; )

[@hayksamvelyan]

Wow those guys are real pros at what they do. I love how thorough the mechanics were in getting the job done right, those are my kind of people. If only I could afford such craftsmanship. Larry you are one hard working dude that deserves this sort of service. I also appreciate how much credit and spotlight you give to your fellow professionals, it really shows the appreciation that you have for real craftsmen.

[@torks2339]

Ah Larry man I've missed you! Wish you'd vlog more often. Even if it's just detailing a car. Never get bored of you. Nearly 600 thousand subscribers for a detailer is awesome!!!

[@AMMO-NYC]

thanks for watching and supporting!

[@ItsRyan.]

Yeah, i'd love that just general areas of a detail you come across on different cars and how to tackle them, although i can imagine how long extra it takes to film a video on top of you detailing a car.

[@torks2339]

I just love it when Larry is detailing a super rare car but by far my favorite was the original shed find porsche he literally had to steam clean. The series on rebuilding his Porsche was FANTASTIC. And I'm really loving the work on his new Audi R8. Surprised that we didn't see a full paint correction vlog on the R8 though and SUPER surprised that he wrapped it! Although saying that I loved the colab with Christian as he's bloody awesome.

[@Neur0bit]

This is so satisfying (and therapeutic) to watch. Outstanding workmanship!

[@Carbondan]

That is a seriously impressive shop. I love seeing high quality custom fabrication. It's like magic lol.

[@fchoudhary63]

More of these types of videos please.

[@Raszagal1983]

this channel gets an automatic thumbs up , i already know its going to be quality stuff

[@cjtr83]

Another absolutely fantastic video Larry. Thank you for sharing it with us and all of your work in order to do so. It's always appreciated. Amazing channel. Although I'm really only here to tell you how hilarious your face was when you found the dirt behind the liner 😂 👍🏻

[@SwiftAutoLLCSWFL]

At 17:43, it shows your wheel's AMMO center caps. I LOVE the attention to detail! Thanks for another amazing video!

[@yamen_aly]

Is that the AMMO logo I see on the shifter knob ?

[@AMMO-NYC]

it is

[@derekb370z]

Can’t get enough Ammo R8 videos

[@mels_life1]

Finally a new video! 💖 I’m literally addicted to your vids lol

[@KyleSVT]

I dig that shirt Larry! Great video as always!

[@Pacione620]

I'm speechless Larry, amazing as usual!

[@rikliu1179]

that's too much work... ill just drive my 1995 Toyota Corola.

[@mmitchell1727]

Does JRX make anything for a 97 toyota camry suspension? :)

[@ibrahimhafeez7062]

I'm getting crazy... I want your all crew members...they are fucking so caring your car...love it man... I truly dreamed about this type of service to be done with my car... So much nice hands on car...

[@gmans7859]

Thanks Larry for sharing. I Love Love Love this kinda stuff. I always do my best to secure the knowledge, achieve a strict level of craftsmanship and have fun when ever I touch one of our cars! Attention to the details matter.... every time!

[@jozsibacsi11]

such a joy to watch these videos!

[@MarksChannel52]

The Audi Bolt is pretty simple actually.. If you ever over torque a stud or have a stud failure, you most likely have to replace the hub or punch out the stud risking damage to the hub.. With a Bolt you don't really have those issues.

[@AMMO-NYC]

ahh interesting. Did not know that

[@maxmagic1842]

Its also more common on europe made cars. i drove a lot cars from europe and almost everyone had bolts.

[@mrjim7369]

This isn't really accurate, I've worked as a mechanic for many years and the failure you tend to get more often than not is that the bolt rips the threads out of the hub giving you little choice but to replace the entire hub. With studs and nuts you can just replace the stud on the vast majority of cars I have worked on with no damage to the hub. Why the german marques use bolts instead of nuts is anyones guess :)

[@DuRöhre4711]

If you use Spacers or Change between aftermarket Aluminium Wheels and Steel Rims often (Most Germans do this at least twice a year. as we have to use Winter Wheels) you just need different bolts, not longer Studs.

[@TorgeirFredriksen]

Correct, this is the main reason european cars use bolts. Summer/winter rims often use different bolts (different length/cone angle).

[@mels_life1]

The way you say “bonkers” LITERALLY sounds like squidward from spongebob

[@mjack70]

Awesome, really digging the Ammo center caps, nice touch.

[@DWraysGarage]

How lucky are you to have wizards like this at your service?! Great overview and you must be stoked about all these seriously updated/upgraded elements. Enjoy!

[@AMMO-NYC]

Indeed I’m very lucky

[@kyakarrenamiyaan]

did you reinforce the front frame? Did your frame crack?

[@twr41cox]

Great video Larry. Keep them coming!

[@devilisinthedetailgbr]

what a video, amazing, fun to watch and the nerd in me loved it

[@robertchalmers8487]

Car nerdery at its best 😍 🚗👀 Nice work Larry

[@CarMadGermany]

Hey Larry, I follow you with my other account for a few years. It helped me a lot to see your Videos and follow your advice to clean my 2006 WRX STI Spec C V-Limited from Japan and to clean my Daylie Cars. The Porsche and Audi R8 Videos are, for me, like a big Bonus. I really love to see how you handle these cars, the progress of upgrade on the Audi R8 and specially your way to maintain and upgrading the 964. Thanks for sharing all that. Really appreciate that! If you ever want to visit Germany (to be more exact: The Nürburgring) let me know. ;) Greetings from Germany!

[@florinmoldovan9675]

you might want to consider reinforcing the strut assembly. samcrac bought an r8 with this sort of damage and aparently, it is a common failure point for audi r8's of this generation

[@AMMO-NYC]

good idea

[@fruzzle2012]

because the people keep driving it with a faulty suspension, it will wreck the car eventually

[@ViviryViajar]

Fantastic Video !! I need to replace my TT´s Magentic Ride Supension. Would you be able to told me, who makes or the Brand of the litlle four emulators. As you, I´ll don´t like te yellow light on, in my dashboard. Thanks !

[@r8oscar]

Hello, Nice video, I own 2009 audi r8 and going to change the suspension to coil overs soon (going about an inch lower then stock) but do i have to change any control arms/parts to get the perfect alignment? thx

[@dan__________________]

2:38 Doesn't have the frame patch welded in. Check out Samcrac's latest videos. The one he bought was a total lost due to the frame cracking beside the front upper shock mount.

[@karl2621]

A 2009 R8 With R Tronic transmission (A Single Clutch Transmission) is seriously quick but a R8 with Manual Transmission is seriously Fun and satisfying to drive.

[@Bratsoni]

Greetings from Greece Larry :D

[@pavw5508]

I love the amount of detail you put to every work you do. Thanks I have recently changed suspension and breaks on my car I this was like a vacation for me. New shocks and lowered springs, rotors, stainless Steel brake hoses and me ;) I know I have only volvo v70 r but it was fun. Thanks for every video you upload

[@THXnDTS]

Nice content man. Keep up .

[@3rdGenGuy]

Doesn't disabling the magnetic dampeners mess up the ECU stability and traction control? i thought those cars adjusted the dampeners all the time based on track situations.

[@simonlowe5787]

what an incredible video. The detail is truly something. The knowledge these guys must have to work on such cars is awesome. So nice to see a different side to my dream car. Maybe one day!

[@Rudolfo11]

Most of the german cars use lugbolts, actually i cant think about one, that got lugnuts. There is no specific reason behind it, it‘s just the standard over here.

[@DeuceDevious]

What a FANTASTIC explanation on Magnetic Dampers. So succinct, so informative.

[@porsche911luv9]

Sorry, after the guy told me he wanted to cut, many times my car, I would have went with stock suspension. However, end result is nice.

[@bradchang5076]

How much did the JRZ suspension cost compare to replacing the broken magnetic strut. Does JRZ or someone sell the customized kit to install the into the car? Did you consider Penske remote reservoir or Moton shocks? I understand that the Penske shock can be adjusted to be softer for street use. I have 40 years of track experience and 5 double herniated discs in my lumbar area of my back that had to be fused... all from driving my track cars on the street. Did you corner weight your suspension? Is your car a V-10 or V-8 R8? I know that on Lambo V-10's that the oil filters are buried under the intake manifold... Which has to be removed to get access and you need a specialty wrench to remove the oil filter. Its a real PITA. Your filter location in this video appears to be the Audi 4.2 V-8. Thanks for your feedback.

[@sergeyakinin997]

I love these in-depth upgrade/build videos! I know MRC maintenance/tuning is expensive, but have you heard of DSC? They make suspension ECUs that replace the OEM units - they allow you to adjust the suspension settings electronically and can read data from various sensors (wheel position, speed, steering angle, etc...) and actively adjust the shocks within set parameters. I haven't gotten one for my MRC car yet, because it's expensive and I don't know if I can adjust the settings to be better than OEM (most likely not, at least not in a short period of time), but it would be cool if you can make a video of someone's car being upgraded by them (since yours are all upgraded already). It's probably the future of suspension tuning, more and more cars come equipped with MRC from factory and it just makes sense to tune those shocks instead of getting new ones (up to a point, no getting around better materials and piston valve design).

[@Sebastian-lh6bn]

Tricking the control unit into thinking everything is alright is never the best idea, since the parameters read from your mini-fooling-device might be a dependency for other control units, e.g. for the steering control unit. So here's what would be the manufacturers approach: The magnetic ride suspension is an option for the R8, it was not mandatory. So there are R8s on the streets without warning-lights for missing MR-suspension, right? And that's what you can 'program' into the R8's ECU. You have to tell the car, that is does not have MR-suspension and the result is, that the corresponding control unit is ignored after that. Basically that's what you did anyway, you 'downgraded' to a simpler suspension. Looks great, however. Awesome setup and the brakes look just absolutely brilliant. If you want further information on that programming-topic, just have a chat with your audi-reseller. They normally do that work for inexpensively.

[@supradma71]

Surprised the external rear reservoirs were mounted so close to the engine and manifolds. Heat is the enemy of dampers.

[@chrisracer2007]

I was thinking about buying a golf r32 and making it truck worthy I wanted the jrz coil overs just like you have with the tree way adjustment through The cost of the car≈10,000 The cost of the jrz ≈6,000

[@notgonnapay]

Omg that oil pan. How do you own an R8 and don’t care enough about it to either A: Do the job properly or B: Take it to someone who will? Honestly I’ve stripped some bolt holes before but I don’t see why you wouldn’t just bring that car to a dealer or something to have the oil change done properly. I mean you had 3 screws to tighten after that job guy. How do you strip 66.6% of the bolts you have to put back on that car?

[@Adrian_Nel]

Hi, you should have mounted perspex or aluminium backing plates behind the trunk frunk liner where the reservoirs sit (ie against the outside of the frunk,in between the frunk's wall and the car's bulkhead) for the rivets to pull against. [Frunk = trunk.] Nice vid.

[@TheElephantDan]

Very well produced and narrated. Super thorough without being boring. Thanks!

[@markmuller8829]

Holy shit Batman, I'm so in love with your R8! What superb craftsmanship those guys displayed. Again, amazing attention to detail to get every last aspect taken care of. What's not to admire ......

[@paulgarcia8344]

From what I understand Volkswagen has always done it for saving resources. Making so many vehicles with a separate nut to tie onto the Bering becomes expensive so they just made one piece while it was cheaper to thread the inside the Bering instead. Don’t quote me, it’s just what I understand from my Volkswagen. Love the videos though!!

[@jacob.s3619]

Thanks you Larry for another great video. Could watch and listen to your videos all day. As a mechanic I find great satisfaction in people doing a professional job to there cars and having some one actually appreciate and understand those said professionals working on the cars. The whole "Grease monkey" mentality bugs me as cars and trucks (I'm a diesel tech) are getting more and more complicated and people take maintenance and services to the object that city's and towns are built around for granted and the people who manufacture, maintains and modify them.

[@shortround9134]

Larry another tip.. when starting your R8 V8 as its gonna be similar to M3 V8, let the car idle for about 2 mins... then when setting off drive smoothly and keep revs lets say below 4k and then once engine temp gets up to temp, you will know by the needle should be half way then you can begin to drive hard.... your V8 has to get oil lubrication in all parts of the engine first, by being at right temp the oil will be at the right consistency for that to happen... trust me i own a M3 V8 e93 hard top cabriolet and its a beast when i press the M button... total animal...

[@MrUltraworld]

I would have replaced the stock parts. The Magnetic Ride system is just too good.

[@mihalis1010]

BMW and most other Euro car makers also use lug bolts, and I really don't know why. I did a bit of reading, and there doesn't appear to be a specific reason other than to make wheel changes more annoying.

[@deliveriders2592]

why you have a TOYO sticker but pirelli p-zero tires on your car ? but i love your videos.

[@RaldasDetails]

The best part was when you was driving the car lol 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 nice 👍🏼

[@maveric0738]

Nice video Larry. Not only Audi that has lug nuts like that...Volkswagen as well. And many other European manufacturers

[@jamesbshaw]

I posted a pic of my Ford Maverick next to a Lamborghini with the caption... When you remember that you're not into high maintenance chicks... Happy for you though Larry. Keep up the great work.

[@mikepawlikguitar]

This is all cool and all, and amazing.. but it boggles my mind that this stuff isn't done at the factory. Why else are we paying for the R label? Doesn't make any sense. Someone give this guy a job as the head of engineering at Audi.

[@witchcraftauto]

The attention to detail is absolutely amazing! Larry you are truly gifted.

[@chickmagpunk]

Amazing Larry! What a great level of work and a fantastic car :D

[@scgray05]

@AMMO NYC Hey Larry, I am also located in CT and wondering if you know anyone in the area that can cut "shark gill" vents into an aluminum hood on my Audi TT?

[@ImplantedMemories]

audi r8 with such expensive engine mods but cheap Total 5W40 ? I put the same oil in my way older car. I though you would take some fancy racing oil

[@andreibordeianu]

cheaper to fabricate with lug bolts. minimum cost savings multiplied by the number of cars and voila' profit. (ha, ha, soon after I posted I heard you also using voila')

[@lufia1624]

I wish I could find the 964 suspension video. The way he explained the MR shocks was really accessible to someone who's not an engineer.

[@setra23]

VAG uses wheel bolts. They're the most annoying way of attaching wheels. I know so many people who had/have VWs who've done wheel stud conversions.

[@TeamAtterz]

My personal perspective on the canister delete kits to prevent warning lights is that the best way to have done this would be to code it out using VCDS. The car looks awesome regardless, I am so envious of this and the Porsche :)

[@thearcher1740]

7:46 ...... Expression makes this video for me. Pretty much me every time I spend 3hrs detailing my car and then look at after 15 minutes outside!

[@soundgarden01]

Reading from the comments the lug bolts are common in Europe but here in the states Volkswagen (Audi's owner) uses lug bolts too, I've been told lug bolts are more safer than lug nuts.

[@shahaan400]

I want to come being my Prius and get everything done on it. Breaks rotors, shocks and struts, fluids, paint correction, paint protection film, cleaning etc.

[@theonlym12]

That install is absolutely incredible. That should be the standard install for that set up in that car.

[@m721ac]

7:49 priceless reaction....

[@thesocks6653]

didn’t know lug bolts were all that uncommon, my 2004 bmw 325i uses them and the only difference is it’s slightly more of a bitch to fit my wheels back on

[@biro24]

Holy wow, 2k each, for a Audi 😭😫. your face when you showed the dirt 😁. The trunk trim fix was 👏👏👏👏

[@kenlawton1531]

Wow! Looks like an expensive day!! But the results look incredible. That workshop know their stuff!

[@CAWLINEENO]

For the Fill/Do not fill I think the logic comes not from oil changes but when checking it periodically. If you are checking your oil and you are passed the Do not fill line you have enough oil and leave it alone.

[@arpadkal]

Why didn't you just use VCDS or a dealer diagnostic tool to tell the car it didn't have magnetic ride control? That would have extinguished the warning light.

[@TonyHyppolite]

I'd be curious to see what these guys can do for my 944 Turbo. They have done such amazing work for your cars Larry. Keep it up.

[@смиренный-х2б]

My Volvo stationwagon had those lug bolts 😂 😂 😂 supposed to withstand a lot more than regular lugs which I just find funny on a stationwagon.

[@mrjamescavill]

what... every car i've ever owned has had "lug bolts". Maybe it's a commen thing in the UK (or Europe)

[@chefhawkins]

Volvo uses those lug bolts as well, I have one of those wheel hangers. The wheel hangers are nice when taking wheels off, but make it MUCH easier putting them back on.

[@toompie69]

So how will you know when your suspension is failing since you have no more errors coming up on the dashboard? You just check it visually regularly?

[@Sebastian.1076]

It’s not just Audi. All European cars use lug bolts instead of lug nuts. There are conversions to studs if you want ease for track swapping.

[@mustakid51]

Mercedes does the same thing with the lug bolts I have to screw in that piece too for my E55 so i dont chip my 8 piston calipers with my rim falling off and Mercedes and Audi have the same bolt pattern

[@mmbb001]

In Eurpe almost every car manufacturer use lug bolts. And when we change the tyres never use that weird guide pins. Pretty interesting...

[@BalkanBoyBiH]

Mad respect for mike

[@jajjjamensan]

People dont know how to do a oil change? jeezz.... As simple as changing tires.

[@Oplix]

Those clamps won't hold the canisters under high G forces. You need to rethink a long term solution fast because you could seriously damage your car.

[@Hoi4ofgender]

I forgot that Delphi was the suppiler for vag when it comes to magnetic shocks. THANKS GM.

[@shortround9134]

i thought you got the car inspected... does this not show up in the report.... maybe you should have got the BMW M8 when it comes out... more reliable and to change engine components on the R8 most times the engine has to come out... ouuuucccchhhh

[@YogeshPatel9]

are there more details on the EDC delete? which company supplied it? I've only seen them from KW before, is there an alternate source?