HOW TO INSTALL RESILIENT CHANNEL AND REDUCE VIBRATION NOISE

Installing resilient channel (res channel) is an effective low cost method for reducing sound transmission through walls and ceilings. It is installed perpendicular to the ceiling joists and wall studs. Res channel is suitable to use in multiple unit buildings, recording studios, and to improve room to room sound transmission . Drywall only touches the resilient channel ensuring sound transmission never travels through the wood (houses) or steel structure (condo). It can be used for both wall and ceiling applications. The product used in this video is manufactured by Bailey and costs approximately $4.20 CND per 12 ft length.
Material List:
Resilient channel
Measuring tape
Tin snips
Impact driver or drill
Pencil or marker
1 ¼ " type w pan head screws (for wood studs or joists)
10mm (3/8") type s pan head screws (for steel studs or joists)

[@jeremyhayward4099]

Great video series! Because of you, I am going to incorporate this in my current home build. Keep up the great work!!!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

That's great to here. I incorporate res channel on all my projects now. It provides so many benefits.

[@stevelerch27]

Excellent, short, sweet and to the point. I'm doing this, this weekend and got all the info I needed.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks for the feedback! The reason I make content is to help others taking on similar projects. I always try my best to get straight to the point.

[@melaniegutierrez2448]

How did it go? Looking to do this in my condo where we have noise issues from upstairs.

[@Johnbobon]

1:03 "You want to make sure that your cans can be dropped." My granny definitely employed this advice. 🥁😄

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Lol it’s funny how times can change. I don’t even work with this style of pot lights anymore.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

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[@dimik3855]

This contractor is worth hiring for your reno needs.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks!

[@zelmergobi]

Very nice video. I only have one suggestion. Measure 16” from the wall on your second channel if you are putting first one 1/4” or 1/2” or more from the wall that way your 4th channel’s center will be exactly at 48” or 8th channel at 96”( the width or length of standard drywall) if you measure 16” from the first, you might be off center later on and run into more problems. Cheers.

[@zelmergobi]

I meant 4 at 48”or 7th at 96”

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks for the tip 👍🏽

[@christopherhaak9824]

Ideally, you are running the drywall the opposite direction. for 5/8" ceiling drywall there is not need to fasten it right at the edges, within 6" is fine and actually better for STC purposes.

[@moviecook7717]

Best explanation on this topic

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks

[@danb1572]

Thanks for the video! I've no idea how much of a difference it may make but I read earlier today that instead of overlapping the channels it is also a good idea to keep a 1/16th inch gap between them to ensure greater isolation.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Glad it helped! I always follow the manaufactuers spec sheet and it recommends overlapping for the brand of res channel I used.

[@dc1741]

I'm currently soundproofing a wall that adjoins two bedrooms. Considered using the resilient channel, but I was concerned about the limited load bearing capability (large flat screen TV, etc). So I've decided to go with soundproofing insulation and two 5/8" drywall boards on one side (1/2" drywall is already in place on one side), putty on the boxes, and green glue in between the boards.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

You can always install wood blocking where your wall mounted TV will be installed. Then you use long fasteners that will go through the drywall and the wood. With that method you can still install res channel. You are right, the res channel would not be strong enough to support heavy objects like a TV.

[@wadeshimojo]

Excellent information

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thank you!

[@gabrielostermann8987]

Nice information given. Thanks.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

No problem. Thanks for watching!

[@VeganLinked]

Does resilient channel keep outside noise from coming in like road noise? Or only inside noise from going out?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

My appologies for the late reply. It's used to reduce vibration from both sides of the drywall. It's overall impact on reduced vibration noise is very minimal.

[@curtisbme]

@2:00 - Spacing can be up to 24" OC if your joist (or wall stud) is 16". It only needs to be 16" OC if your ceiling joist spacing is more than 16".

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

That’s correct. I prefer to space them at 16” OC to beef up the support a bit. Especially, if 5/8” board is being used.

[@mufazalqadir607]

Great Video, will be following your way for Soundproofing my basement ceiling: Question : My Electrician has completed the wiring and installed the Pot Light Rough-In Plate directly to the Joist. When I Install the Res Channel, i would need to bring the Pot Light Plate down by 1/2 inch, to be in line with the Res Channel, what is your recommendation for that. Thanks

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks! I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You will have to take all the pot light plates down, install a strip of OSB or plywood (I believe 1/2” thick), then reinstall all your pot light plates. Utilize lasers or string lines to help speed up the process. If you go way back on my IG profile I should have some posts on this topic. I hope that helps.

[@mufazalqadir607]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Many Thanks for your advice will do accordingly, Appreciate your prompt Reply

[@drewrawk999]

Thanks for the quick reply! Your a good man! Keep up the good work!

[@scarpien]

Great video. However, if I wanted to install 2 - layers of 5/8" drywall to the RC, will that application be too heavy for the RC?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Most resilient channel is designed to support two layers of Type X 5/8” drywall. Please read the spec sheet on the particular manufacturer/brand of res channel you’re using. In the spec sheet you will find out the specific ratings.

[@scarpien]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Thanks for the quick response.

[@classicalmusic2425]

Insulation should be below or above electrical wires? Youra is touching the reslient channel.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Most of my wires were stapled along the side of the ceiling joists or passed through the center of the joists. I put insulation above and below the wires since I used two layers of insulation.

[@TheMrKordunas]

Hi Sorry if you have already answered this, but what would be best technic to mount res bar at the end where there is no stud or joist, as a matter of fact joist at the end change direction Thx

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

If I understand your question correctly. I would add blocking where required to provide a solid structure to attach the res channel to.

[@morokeiboethia6749]

Does resilient channel prevent expansion cracks (temperature fluctuation cracks) and foundation settling cracks in drywall mud?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

It does help with expansion/contraction and deal with bows/crowns in ceiling joist’s.

[@beerye3750]

I plan on having a bit of thick electrical tape between all the screws and joints to help dampen the vibration. Think this will make a difference?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

IMO that is a waste of time. The main reason I use res channel is to have a flat ceiling. The res channel helps fix any imperfections in your ceiling joists. It does help reduce vibration a bit but not much. If you're that concerned about vibration i would recommend you look into using Genie Clips. They are specifically designed for res channel installations.

[@davesun]

You missed installing the resilliant clips that the channels snap into. These have rubber contacts with the joists and greatly reduce vibration transfer. you just lowered the ceiling and vibration will transfer throught the channel you installed directly to the joist.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I didn’t miss that option, I choose not to use that style of system.

[@daveford3001]

Very good video. I've heard that if you're installing pot lights and you're surrounding them with insulation like in this video, you need a certain type of pot light? I don't suppose you could tell us the make/model you used in this video as I'd like to get ones for my basement that are adjustable like you showed. Also, my basement ceiling isn't level, so I 1x4 strapping with shims between it and the joists to level the ceiling to the strapping. Do I install the res channel in line with the strapping, or across the strapping? Thanks!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

You have to use IC (insulated can) pot lights if they are going to be in a ceiling cavity with insulation. I can’t remember the brand used in this video. I use a different style of pot lights now that have to clips that hold the pot lights. The brand of pot lights I currently use is called Ovid. Which ever brand you buy I would recommend getting 90+ CRI, it’s referred to as healthy lighting. If you go in Ovid’s website they have lots of information on the topic. Install the res channel perpendicular to the strapping (opposite way).

[@couchpotatoe3204]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd IC stands for Insulation Contact ;)

[@marshallstheman]

Very informative, thanks.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

No problem. I’m glad you found the content valuable.

[@arq.emiliamendoza4304]

Hi, I'm planning on install this system in one of my rooms, but one wall is curved, how can I install the resilient channel? can I bend it?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Hi, sorry I’m not aware of an installing method using res channel on a curved wall. It would loose its structural integrity if bent.

[@dcolum23]

Why is your insulation not further up the joists? It’s basically flush with the resilience channel.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I installed two layers. One at the top of the cavity, air gap, then a layer flush with the bottom of the ceiling joists. Most electrical, plumbing, etc runs through the center of a joist. It’s easier to have a gap in between the two layers.

[@douglasrice9636]

How do you finish where the ceiling meets the wall?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Butt up the ceiling drywall tight to the wall framing. Then install drywall on the wall tight to the ceiling.

[@soundproofist]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Shouldn't there be a gap with flexible caulk, though?

[@GoodLuck-pg9xt]

excellent video

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thank you 🙌🏽

[@infiniti2015]

Great video. Does would strapping help out at all? I have shorter ceilings so I’m trying to avoid strapping plus the channels if possible.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Wood strapping works as well. It’s a common practice in some states like Boston. I prefer to use resilient channel because it helps correct in imperfections in the ceiling joist. Providing a smooth level surface to hang your drywall on.

[@AI2367]

Great Video ! I am required to put layers of 5/8 drywall on the ceiling. What type of resilient channel is available for this ?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Bailey is the commonly used manufacturer in my area. If you speak with any building supplier they should be able to help you out.

[@seekwithlove]

Great Video, answered all my questions.

[@louistaylor8808]

Can you do this to an existing ceiling? Thanks

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I have never done that personally. I’m sure it can be done but it defeats the purpose. Since all the drywall screw will hit the existing drywall. Your new installed layer won’t be decoupled.

[@D10-c3b]

Hi, great video - thanks! Do you have any tips on applying the resilient channels on a bulk head in a room (something with corners)? I am building a music room in my basement and I need to build around my HVAC ductwork. I assume the same wall and ceiling applications of the resilient channel still applies but don't want to screw it up.

[@marcusgreely2655]

I second this question.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

My appologies for the late reply. You would treat a bulk head the same as any ceiling or wall installation. Thanks for watching!

[@b7fLuid]

hi thanks for the helpful tips and showing the jig. I think that was the best part cause i'm awful at math. lol

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

No problem! I'm glad you found the video helpful. I'm terrible at mental math as well haha.

[@davidthompson7344]

just use a tape measure and mark every 16" (which is highlighted on most tapes) on both ends of the room, then get your helper to snap chalk lines with you. much faster than walking all over the house holding a jig above your head IMO

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

David Thompson that's a great way to mark your 16" OC as well. Thanks for sharing.

[@mryddet]

I'm wondering how the channel doesnt sag as it's only screwed in one one side.... does it really stay a half inch from the joist?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I had the same thoughts as well. That flex in the product also helps correct any bowing or imperfections in the ceiling joists.

[@VeganLinked]

I would really like to know if this could be helpful to remove road noise coming in. I have a small building I am trying to keep Road noise out of. I thought about using this on the wall facing the road. Would that work at all or help at all

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

This product will not help reduce road noise. I prefer to install res channel at 16” OC for additional support.

[@treystills]

Excellent post, thank you. Would you mind sharing how you calculated how many rows of res channel you needed. I would prefer to have a close estimate when I purchase rather than purchase more than needed and return the rest. Thanks again!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

T Willey thanks I appreciate it! Measure the width of your room in inches. Then divide it by 16 or 24 depending on the spacing you’re going to use. I prefer 16” O.C. to provide more support. Now you know how many rows are required. Then measure how long the room is. Divide that by the length of your resilient channel. In my case I used 12’ lengths. Now you can calculate how many lengths are required. It’s always a good idea to order 10% extra material. Any extras can be returned especially if you buy it from Home Depot. They take anything back haha.

[@chandlerfey6421]

Great video! Very helpful

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks for the feedback! It's much appreciated.

[@melaniegutierrez2448]

Looking to do this in my Airbnb here in Orlando, FL but can’t find a contractor who specializes in this. Do you have any connections here? 🤔🙏

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Sorry, I do not know of anyone personally in Florida. You can try CK Construction he’s in Jupiter, FL. Most drywall contractors (boarders) should be familiar with res channel and be able to install it.

[@melaniegutierrez2448]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Thank you for responding!

[@brendanjohnston7192]

Great video! If you are running your ceiling continuous above your partitions for fire separation, what would you typically do if you wanted to get all your partitions in place before fully drywalling the ceiling? Just run a res. channel parallel above the location of the partition, put a strip of drywall on it then stand up your walls below that?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

My appologies for the late reply. You would have to install res channel and drywall on all your ceilings first. Then install your partition walls. Make sure your top plates are fastened to proper blocking in the ceiling cavity about and not screwed into the res channel only.

[@searchneverend]

How do I calculate how many channels I will require to complete a 24x10 room. + the ceiling. I just finish the rough in yesterday and I have inspection on Monday. I will be using rockwool on all walls and ceiling (this is for my theater room) and then channels on top of that. Thank you

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Here is an online calculator that you can use: isostore.com/resilient-sound-clip-calculator

[@chrisjohnson1164]

goofy questions: 1) Those are plain jane IC rated lights, I'm assuming. So, how are you boxing in your lights so they don't create a sound leak? 2) does it matter that much? 3) recommendations on can lights? I'm asking because I'm right in the middle of doing this exact thing to our basement for a basement apt.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Sorry for the delayed response. Those are standard IC rated pot lights. Two layers of Rockwool Safe’N’Sound insulation was used around the cans. There is not much more that can be done. I would recommend using Ovid or Liteline Luna pot lights. If budget allows they offer much better quality lights and are easier to install. Recessed can lights are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

[@thekeeprunning2153]

Hi, very helpful video! I’m using rc-1 pro resilient channel for my ceiling and want to be sure it’s safe to hang 2 layers of dry wall (5/8, 1/2 + green glue) from it and that it will not sag or become compromised in years to come. If installed properly should the RC channel function safely and properly with my design? Thanks, cheers!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

For a specific question like yours. I would recommend you read the spec sheet on your product. You can find it with a Google search. That will state in detail exactly what the product is rated to support. If you can’t find that the manufacturer should have a tech support phone number and you can ask a rep.

[@markfothebeast]

I've read that double leg res channel can easily hold up 2-layers of 5/8". This is information I found from some type of research at a University. As flimsy as the stuff seems, it's surprising how much weight it can actually bare.

[@Mr74runner]

I’m confused. Bailey RC plus says run the channel 24” on centre for 16” on center ceiling joists. They don’t mention alternating the channel as you have suggested but, you can see they didn’t alternate it in the video. Also they say the channel should be 4-6” away from the walls in their literature but, don’t mention anything in the video. They do recommend the screws you suggest but, show their installers using drywall screws!??! Lol I just want to get this right, any input would be great! Great videos btw.

[@Mr74runner]

The only thing I can see in the link you provided to another KZbinr is about alternating the channel on the wall at floor level just to make it easier to install the screws. Am I missing the part for the ceiling instructions to alternating the channel? Thanks in advance.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I prefer to install the resilient channel at 16” OC. This provides more support for the drywall. The extra amount of res channel that is used for 16” OC vs 24” OC is marginal and is worth the cost IMO. You can use drywall screws or pan head screws. Both will work. I prefer the pan head screws because the mushroom shaped screw head provides a bit more meat to hold the res channel up. I hope this clears up your questions. If you have anymore let me know.

[@Mr74runner]

Thanks for the quick reply! I’ve already picked up the R channel and pan head screws, all that’s left is the task at hand lol Thanks for the info. :)

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

@@Mr74runner No problem! Good luck with your project.

[@33atswag]

Do you recommend directly screwing the channels to the floor joists or to create a strapping in the ceiling before installing? Thanks

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Directly to the ceiling joists. You would only install strapping or shims if your ceiling is not level.

[@arashk75]

Should screw side of add channels facing each other? In other words, should half of channels orienting one way and the other half orienting the other way? Or only the very first one as you mentioned will face differently? To me, it makes the channels hold the drywall better if the face each other.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Hamid Talebi here is the manufactures installations instructions. This should help answer your question: www.bmp-group.com/docs/default-source/homeowner-literature/quiet-spaces-and-how-to-build-them.pdf?sfvrsn=2

[@treasurefull]

I noticed that you are using new construction can lights directly screwed into joists. I am redoing my ceiling and instead, I am using a remodel can light, which will sit on the drywall. The lights will be covered by sound boxes (OSB + cement board with green glue in-between). The box will then be screwed to joists via an L type sound clip (DC-04). I am doing this because my ceiling will have almost 50 can lights, so the sound leak from each light would add up otherwise. I am also installing Roxul AFB 3, two layers, plus Green Glue Whisper Clips and Hat Channels, Two layers of 5/8 dry wall (with green glue in the middle).

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

G Azi wow that's impressive! You will definitely exceed an STC rating of 50 which we were trying to achieve with this install. This this is an investment property so we have to draw the line somewhere on expenses. We always go above and beyond "minimal" building code though. Let me know the results you get after your install!

[@billmuertos]

Can you link me where I can find out how to do that with my lights? I am trying to make my basement ad sound proof as possible as it's going to be my music room. Do you have A/C ducts coming in there too?

[@ZackZweifel]

Do you know if this single leg channel can handle two layers of drywall?

[@KatrinaMcLean]

Did you find out if it can hold 2 layers of drywall?

[@ZackZweifel]

@@KatrinaMcLean no response or answer yet no

[@CC-jy4gr]

@@ZackZweifel he dead

[@seanduthie3894]

If using multiple layers of drywall, install every 12" on center.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

It’s designed to support up to two layers of 5/8” drywall.

[@Andrico77]

Wonder if this could be used to level the ceiling joists. My basement ceiling joists seem to be off by 1/2 an inch

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

It could be done using this technique. You would have to set a laser line to work from then shim your res channel as you go.

[@wtwrva]

Well done! Nice work!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Wm. Wiles thanks!

[@DABESTTTTT]

Great video. I live in a concrete floor unit block with brick walls and can hear the neighbours footsteps very loudly as they have installed a laminate floor. Would installing one of these ceilings make an improvement worth noticing or would there still be a lot of vibration noise coming down the walls that would make the effect of one of these ceilings negligible?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

If you have an exposed concrete ceiling installing insulation, res channel and drywall would help. By how much it’s hard to know.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Mass loaded vinyl underneath the flooring above would have been a better way to address the issue.

[@pooh-bunny9249]

Great video, thanks! Is the installation technique the same for walls?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

No problem. It’s pretty much the same installation method for walls.

[@RodneyFisk]

Good video. Save some time by simply not trimming ends. If you're going to overlap anyway, don't waste the time.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Great point. I do that now. It definitely speeds up the process.

[@dblaylock22]

Great video! Do the canned lights make it more difficult to soundproof? Trying to decide if I want canned lights in my basement or not.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks! Installing pot lights will definitely decrease your sound dampening. The more holes in your ceiling adds more areas for sound transmission loss. One way to decrease your this would be to build drywall boxes around the pot lights before you install your res channel & ceiling drywall. It would be very time consuming to do that. Another option is to install one light fixture only per room that way your limiting the amount of holes. Personally, I really like the look and the light provided by pot lights. Especially for basements because they have such a low profile. Check out my soundproofing a ceiling video if you haven't already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWbRhWaGerisb5I

[@dharmin85]

Where did you purchase reselient channels from ? I would like to know the store name. I am from Australia and I could ask to deliver here.. thanks

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I purchased it from Home Depot. It’s a product that is commonly sold at most building suppliers in North America.

[@MoBuc001]

Great Vid. Question: at the wall/ceiling edge, after the Channel Flange is mounted "away from the edge", it further shows the next (interior) Chan-flange should be opposite direction (Flange faces the edge Chn-Flange). IF we continue all the way to the other edge, all of those Res-Channels Flanges will side away from that opposite edge. 1. Is it important to reverse the Flange of the 2nd-from-the-edge Res-Chan on that opposite edge? 2. IF #1 is YES, then are the Channel Flanges reversed near the wall/ceiling center to be consistent to these 2nd-from-the-edge Flange directions?

[@MoBuc001]

Never mind, I read your PDF link to an earlier, similar Q! :)

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I was going to say sorry for the late reply but you figured out the answer to your own question haha.

[@TravisLawrence12]

I would argue it's more appropriate to face all of the resilient channels the same direction to enable a better dampening of vibrations between the two systems (i.e. better decoupling).

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Travis Lawrence that’s what was done in this video.

[@TravisLawrence12]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Oh, I misunderstood then, my bad. Other than that great guide! As a former acoustic consultant having to explain how to install RC channels was always tough.

[@phalonbuce]

Hi, Thanks for the video. I'm wondering whether to install a second resilient channel to support drywall where two sheets meet. Will one piece of resilient channel support both the ends of both drywall sheets where they butt together or should I use two? If one, by how much do recommend staggering the screws? Thanks for your help!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Sorry for the late reply. It's often easier to add additional res channel when you have two pieces of drywall butt together.

[@snugglyjeff214]

Great video except for where you trimmed off some because it went past your floor joist, then you overlapped it...why would you waste your time doing this? Nothing changes leaving the excess there. In fact you might even have more vibration/sound dampening by leaving more of an overlap.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

You’re correct. You can overlap the access as well.

[@mr.b7601]

Great Video...I do have a question though. The pot lights I've purchased are the Halo IC rated boxes. very similar looking to yours in the video but without the 3 screws to lower the inside cone. Could I just glue & nail a 1/2" strip to the bottom of the ceiling joist where the pot light will go then make the pot light flush with the strip I nailed on just as if it was the bottom of the joist? It lowers the pot light enough but will this be OK to do? Is 1/2" too much or will 1/4" do the job?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Stephen B what ever the thickness is of your res channel that's how much your pot lights need to be lowered. You can get that dimension from the res channel spec sheet. To be honest I can't stand Halo pot lights from Home Depot. Since I'm an electrical contractor I buy all my lighting material from an electrical supplier and never from a big box store. If possible I would return those lights and install the proper ones for this application rather than trying to MacGyver something.

[@drewrawk999]

Thanks for your Vid's very informative. I'm looking to add sound reduction in the basement and we share a wall with our neighbour. Is adding QuietRock type drywall on ceilings and shared wall a waste of money given HVAC sound transfer and floor joists running through our shared wall? Would, as you suggest, adding two layers of Roxul and 5/8 Drwall with Resilient Channel do as good of a job, given the weak points for sound transmission?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Andrew S thank you! I have never personally worked with quiet rock so I can't comment on it's performance. You hit the nail on the head in regards to your other weak points of sound transmission. If you use two layers of safe'n'sound, res channel & 5/8" drywall that should do the trick. For the added cost in quiet rock you probably won't see a good ROI.

[@shaunhayter1116]

Great video thanks!, Question, I am installing resilient Channel only on the Ceiling in my home unfinished basement.Question #1. What comes first, add Ceiling drywall first or wall drywall then ceiling drywall. #2. Should my wall drywall extend and touch the ceiling wood joists.then add ceiling drywall. #3. Should the ceiling drywall touch the wall drywall or should there be a 1/4" gap to allow floating / prevent contact then mud over the gap and close it.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks! #1) Always install drywall on your ceiling first or else you will get cracks in your corners. The drywall on your walls provides support for your ceiling in the corners. #2) Your ceiling drywall should be butted up to the perimeter of all your walls. Do not leave any gaps. #3) Don't leave any gaps when installing drywall. It creates more work when you do your mudding & taping.

[@shaunhayter1116]

Cool thanks!

[@shaunhayter1116]

I have 12" centers on my joists, will this change how i install my resilient channel? in regards to number of screws. I will need to cut the Roxul 24" to accomodate the smaller width by cutting the 24" to 12" width.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

The joist spacing in this video demonstration is also 12" O.C. Install a screw on every ceiling joist. If you watch my video on How To Soundproof A Basement Ceiling video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWbRhWaGerisb5I I had to do the same thing and cut the 16" batts of insulation to fit the cavity. Make sure you cut them at least an 1" wider than the cavity so it will have compression and hold itself in the ceiling cavity.

[@jeepung4015]

Thanks for the useful videos! Love it! Question: I have a ceiling with joists running at 19 1/2" at center....Can the resilient channels be installed on my setup?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Your resilient channel runs perpendicular to your ceiling joists. So you should be fine in that scenario. I would double check the manufacturers spec sheet and see what they require for support. Worst case scenario you may have to install additional blocking for support.

[@Scorpiomaj27889]

In this case are you doing double lay of thinner drywall or maybe one heavy 5/8ths piece?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

scorpiomaj27 usually people install two sheets of 1/2” drywall or one sheet of 5/8 Type X drywall.

[@Scorpiomaj27889]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Thanks, I hadn't remembered before about the type X has the extra fiber material.

[@jayshippen]

Any suggestions on how to lower the heating duct vents? I didn't originally plan to use RC so my vents are too high...I need to drop them down about 3/4".

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I’m sure if you go to a HVAC supplier they will have a solution to your problem. There has to be some sort of sheet metal sleeve that can extend your duct.

[@curtisbme]

You are probably already done but for anyone else finding this, besides doing a sleeve extension, you can modify it and get some registers that are 'old work' style. I modified my steel duct to have insulated flex duct for the last ~6' and then attached these. It ensured the duct was physically isolated and helps to reduce some of the sound transfer. Far more overkill than register extension sheet metal of course, but good if the priority is sound reduction. www.hvacquick.com/catalog_files/Airtec_MV_Instructions.pdf

[@MrJCTroutman]

Great Video, thank you

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

JCTroutman I'm glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for subscribing as well!

[@digitalcurrents]

Would you put resilient channel on a bathroom shower wall that's going to be tiled?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I have personally never seen that done. Tile and thinset weighs a lot. I would be worried that the resilient channel could not support the weight. I would recommend you give the manufacturer tech support a call or read the spec sheet.

[@JimLarsen108]

Is there any loss of effectiveness if RC channel is placed on top of an existing DW ceiling and then hang another layer of DW on the RC channel?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I would recommend contacting the tech support that makes the res channel. I personally think that the res channel would be redundant in that situation. Once the new drywall is fastened through the res channel it would make contact with the existing drywall ceiling. Shorting the system.

[@nyanpaingtin]

This is great video. I have a drywall ceiling that is already finished. I am hearing loud impact noise from upstairs neighbors. Do you have any thought about green glue ? I am considering whether to rip apart the ceiling and install stuffs shown in the video or just install additional layer of drywall with green glue ? Thanks.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Nyan Paing Tin the best way to reduce impact noise is res channel you can go real crazy and install hat clips as well. Adding Rockwool Safe’N’Sound in the cavities will help reduce sound. I used Certainteed Silent FX recently it’s similar to green glue process but it’s already done for you by the manufacturer. I can’t speak on how well or poor it works yet because the house is not finished yet.

[@andyreaves2923]

Can you use rc-1 (z-channel) to hang sheet rock from floor joists instead of rc-2 (hat channel) ?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I’m not sure. I would read the spec sheets on the different channel that you’re referring to. The spec manufacturer sheets will tell you what the channel is rated to hold.

[@81GM1KE]

Love you video. It help me install my resilient channel on my ceiling. I have a question. I’m about to install a 2nd layer of drywall with green glue. Does the screw for the 2nd layer need to go through the channels or would it be ok to put the through the first layer. Thanks in advance.

[@bolhico]

Michael Toussaint it should go through the channels

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

My appologies for the late reply. The second layer of drywall should be fastened to the res channel.

[@dmastronardi76]

Thanks for the videos, really informative! I have a question about installing resilient channels over framed duct work. Do you place the resilient channels all around the box or just on the bottom.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks for the positive feedback! In this project I did not use res channel under the soffit (or on the sides) because the ceiling height is low. If your ceiling height is not an issue under duct work you can install res channel on the bottom of the soffit. Using res channel on the sides of the soffit is a bit over kill but would provide the best results. It all depends on what the end use of the space is going to be. If you're building a home theatre and want to reduce vibration noise then you may want to install it. If it's just a recreational room maybe your money and time can be better spent elsewhere. It's a personal preference.

[@dmastronardi76]

+Simpson Properties Thanks!

[@raphaelducharme980]

13 7/8 for the middle??

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

It's 16" OC install for the resilient channel. The way I placed the jig over the flange of one channel, to the edge of the new piece being installed, worked out to 13-7/8". To each their own. You may use your jig a different way.

[@EmpireTextbooks]

what brand did you use and where can you buy it?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

The brand I use is Bailey. It’s available at most building suppliers including the big box stores like Home Depot and Lowe’s.

[@raywalsh8807]

Also is it worth using 5/8” over 1/2” drywall with this channel for the extra sound proofing? Thanks

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Yes it will support one or two layers of 5/8” drywall. I recommend you read the spec sheet of the res channel you use. It will give you Instalation instructions and what materials can be installed with it.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I would recommend going with 5/8” over 1/2”. That extra mass makes a big difference in deadening sound.

[@raywalsh8807]

Thank you for the quick response. Great video like the way you are simple and concise!

[@analuizanb]

Is vibration noise the same as impact/structural noise?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Yes

[@laurathegypsy4303]

It's 1-1/4" - so does that mean it will lower the ceiling by 1-1/4"?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

The resilient channel that I used is manufactured by Bailey. It’s 1/2” thick. So it lowered my ceiling by 1/2”.

[@Khanvict08]

My city is wanting to put these 24"oc. Does it change anything for me?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

No 16” and 24” OC are common spacing widths for resilient channel. I personally prefer 16” OC because it provides additional support.

[@Khanvict08]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd thanks a lot man. I appreciate it. I just looked you up, didn't know your in gta.

[@barttan9968]

Hi Simpson, I'm from Singapore. I'm planning to do sound proofing for my bedrooms and can u give me advise what is the better option to reduce low frequency noise? Option 1 Current wall is a precast wall. Install rc with rock wool and 5/8 dry wall Option 2 RC with 2x 1/2" dry wall with green glue in the centre. Or u have better advise for a more cost efficient n effective methods? Thanks in advance

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Hi, my apologies for the late reply. Building mass is the best way to deaden sound. I would recommend going with Rockwool, res channel, & two layers of 5/8” drywall (no green glue).

[@barttan9968]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd thank you very much for your reply

[@southbendweddingdj]

I have a question, how did you get that insulation to stay in the rafters without it falling out?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

You have to buy the right size insulation that fits in your cavity or cut it to size and have some waste if your openings are not a standard size.

[@MB-el1ve]

Great video. to the point. Have you try to hang two 5/8 dray wall from a single leg RC, like the one you're installing in the video? And, does it make a huge different between just one layer of 5/8 and two layers?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I have not installed two layers of 5/8”. I have talked with a few drywall crews that have and they have no problems. I personally think it would make a big difference. It’s a lot of mass that is being added to the ceiling.

[@GregoryGuay]

That’s it’s not necessary to use self tapping with that thin type of RC? I’m trying #6 self tapping with some thin 25 gauge metal hatch channel and at first they were stripping pretty easy.

[@rawkstars42]

Do I need to insulate between the joists as well? Or will resilient channel do a decent job of noise reduction on it's own?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Ryan Yu resilient channel addresses vibration and Rockwool Safe’N’Sound reduces noise. Installing both plus 5/8 drywall or Silent FX drywall from Certainteed will help.

[@OtheaDND]

will resilient channels clear a 1/2" water line strapped to the joists?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

IMO that’s cutting it too close for comfort. The resilient channel has some flex to it. The pex might get a bit compressed by the drywall in that scenario.

[@OtheaDND]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd thanks for the quick response. great video btw!

[@Vonrak]

Can sheet rock or deck screws be used to attach them to the joist instead of pan head metal screws? Thank you!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Sorry for such a late reply. Check the manufacturers spec sheet or installation guide. In most cases drywall screws can be used as well.

[@brodemiah3689]

Great video thanks!! I have seen “sound clips” that you screw into the joists then attach the res channel to those clips. Do you think the additional cost of those clips is worthwhile? Also I will be doing the res channel into existing drywall popcorn ceiling. There is a high probability the textured ceiling is asbestos and thinking it’s beautiful not to disturb it? Thanks for the video

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

My appologies for the late reply. I just saw this comment now. IMO it's not worth the additional cost of using genie clips unless soundproofing is a major concern. I mainly use res channel to remove imperfections in a ceiling (since they have some give). It best to leave any asbestos undisturbed or completely remove it safely (abatement). I'm sure you are aware that there are serious health concerns working with asbestos.

[@southbendweddingdj]

Do you think it’s necessary to use this track for side walls??

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

It’s up to you. You have your run a cost benefit analysis is it worth the extra material and labour for the benefit?

[@markfothebeast]

You mention to only space at 16" on center. What's wrong with 24" OC when using 5/8" drywall? I've been researching this and apparently 24" OC lowers sound transmission by roughly 25%. The other thing I'm curious about is overlapping the channel ends. Wouldn't this transmit sound vibration between channels rather than dampening it? I suppose the channels are contacting the same joist...

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

You’re right. The manufacturer states you can use 24” OC spacing. I prefer to use 16” OC for additional support, especially if 5/8” drywall is being used. Overlapping the channel is no different then one long continuous res channel. Keep in mind res channel is one small aspect that “helps” reduce vibration. Depending on what level of sound dampening you’re trying to achieve their are many other aspects that need to be done. The main feature that I like about using res channel is it helps eliminate minor uneven spots between various ceiling joists.

[@markfothebeast]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd I'm about to start fastening the channel in place and this will be the first time I've used it. I'm hoping that it will support the weight of 5/8" at 24" OC. I guess I'll find out

[@markfothebeast]

I now have it all hung, taped, and mudded on the ceiling. I went with 24" OC, and sparingly screwed it in place. I used roughly 4 screws in the centers and 5 or 6 on the ends. I also caulked the RC (res channel) where it meets the drywall. Where the staggered joints are, I cut the RC so that it's not running entirely across the other drywall panels. It seems like it'd create less sound penetration and also saved on RC. It's somewhat of an experiment on my end. I left roughly a 1/4" gap between the walls and filled them in with caulk. It does not flex as much as I would've imagined. It has (so far) not cracked at any joints. The neighboring rooms were furred with pine 1x3 and the sound is stupidly loud in the ceiling regardless of the large amount of insulation. So I have only used RC in one area of the basement which is below my daddys bedroom. I have to say, this shit makes quite a difference. I haven't heard that old farts TV and he hasn't angrily stomped on the floor as a signal to STFU.

[@VestigialHead]

Would it be useful to put rubber washers under the screws that attach the res channel to the joist? That way any vibration that gets through the res channel would be minimised by the rubber washer before going into the screw and into the joist.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

You can buy isolation clips that have a built in rubber washer. If you’re planning on using a rubber washer with a standard res channel I would reach out to the manufacturer. Call their tech support and see if it’s recommended.

[@rayetong123]

Hi I'm having a hard time finding screws for the res channels. any tips ? i live in Toronto area. thanks so much

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Hi Annie, I live in Toronto as well! I bought the screws from Home Depot. 1 ¼ " type w pan head screws (for wood studs or joists). On the packaging it says the screws are for metal but they will work fine for this application.

[@RussBaird0]

You can just use drywall screws.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Russ Baird you're right you can use drywall screws. Drywall screws are designed to be flush mounted with the drywall surface. The beveled edge does not provide the same support as a pan head screw. That's why I prefer to use pan head screws like the manufacturer recommends.

[@rayetong123]

thanks for all your responses!!

[@anjovimusic]

Do you have any tips for installing resilient channel on a ceiling that doesn't have 90 degree corners? I couldn't find anything on it online.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Add blocking in the ceiling where it’s needed.

[@anjovimusic]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd Many thanks!

[@dimitardimitrov9781]

Good one. Thanks!

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Dimitar Dimitrov you’re welcome!

[@McGuinness89]

Great video dude. Thank you! Will be doing this within a week or 2 but can't seem to find resilient channels anywhere besides online. Where did you pick yours up?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks Brian! You should be able to buy it from any big box store such as Home Depot or Lowes. It's usually located in the drywall section. The brand I use is Bailey. Make sure to subscribe to my channel. I will be posting a lot more videos.

[@johnfranko]

Hello Brian, here is one from Lowes: www.lowes.com/pd/2-in-W-x-144-in-L-x-0-5-in-D-RC1-Pro-Galvanized-Steel-Stud/50433096

[@bufordtannen1965]

Hey Dwight, I’m just building some townhouses and had the ceilings lasered with metal battens. After the drywall was put on one of the upstairs bedrooms makes a loud creaking rattling sound. There are numerous places with little noises but the one in bedroom is unbearable. Do you have any idea what could be wrong, and how it could possibly be fixed. The noise only showed up after the plasterboard was put on so assumed it had something to do with the metal battens. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

When you say metal battens are you referring to resilient channel? I have never had an issue like that after installing resilient channel.

[@searchneverend]

Can you please tell me where you bought the resilient channels because I can’t find it at my local hd or anywhere close by like the ones showed in this video. Thanks for the great video

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

All my local big box stores Home Depot, Lowe’s and Rona stock it. I find it’s much cheaper to buy from a local building supplier rather then a big box store.

[@digitalcurrents]

Homehardware calls it resilient channel. Rona calls it resilient bar. Looks like different places may have slightly different names for it.

[@GroovyMisfit]

What is the difference between single leg and double leg resilient Channel?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Double-leg resilient channel has two legs for faster installation. Double leg resilient installation is typically used for ceiling applications with multiple layers of drywall.

[@jameselvidge4803]

Would you suggest using RSIC-1 clips? Seems that most people say that you must use the resilient clips to really get the benefit from the channels.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

James Elvidge if it fits your budget then I would recommend installing the clips. It would definitely help reduce vibration transmission. There are many other products that you can install such as sound proof putty around electrical boxes. It all depends on your budget and how "sound proof" you need the space to be.

[@jameselvidge4803]

Thank you for your response. Great video btw.. well, nothing ever "fits the budget" lol . but I am building a home studio in my basement and I'm not concerned about the walls so much as they are mostly concrete that I framed the exterior but I just want to cut the upstairs noise as much as possible. Do you know roughly how tall the clips are with the channels? None of the clips give their dimensions. I just don't want to lose too much ceiling height.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

James Elvidge thanks! I have no idea how thick the clips are because I have never worked with them. I believe they are fairly thin so it shouldn't affect your ceiling height too much.

[@curtisbme]

(old comment so adding notes for anyone else who comes across it with same question): I when with RC1 channel of clips and hat channel on my ceiling as it was already too low. HC and clips is 1 1/2" whereas RC1 is 1/2". HC and clips is much more expensive but it is more effective on sound transmission and can make install much easier as it eliminates the short circuiting risk.

[@seekwithlove]

The manufacturer recommended 24" spacing oc for 16" joist, what is the pre-cut size inplace of the 13 7/8" block?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Sharon Yuen 16" OC is a better building practice. You are not using much more material. It will provide more support and prevent the drywall from sagging.

[@bolhico]

Why would you install the second channel opposite the first?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

guilherme zanella installing as per the manufacturers recommendations. The channel closest to the walls has the flange away from the wall so that the surface that the drywall is screwed to is closer to the corner. This makes for a stronger corner.

[@bolhico]

Thank you! Also, would you do the same to the walls? Or it doesn't really matter?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

guilherme zanella I would treat the walls the same as a ceiling install. I recommend referring to the manufactures spec sheet and installation guide. All these details will be in there.

[@bolhico]

I thought about that, but don't you think that installing all the channels with the fixings flanges down would decouple the plasterboards from the walls much more due to their weight?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

guilherme zanella check out page 4 on this link: www.bmp-group.com/docs/default-source/homeowner-literature/quiet-spaces-and-how-to-build-them.pdf?sfvrsn=2 Keep in mind this is the installation guide for Bailey resilient channel. If you’re using a different brand refer to that install guide.

[@Zharsergey]

What did you mean by alternating the flange orientation? Looking at Bailey's site, they have the flanges oriented all the same.

[@Zharsergey]

Also noticed that "Channels should be spaced at 24” o.c. for joists spaced at 16” o.c.; and at 16” o.c. for joist spaced at 24” o.c. "

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

By having the flange away from the wall on your outer pieces you have more surface area supporting the drywall and less of a gap where the drywall is not supported. Orientation of the flanges is not critical you just want to make sure the O.C. measurements are all the same.

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

I went beyond what the manufacturer recommends and installed the channel every 16 O.C. even though my ceiling joists are not 24" O.C. I always like to go above minimum code when building and don't mind leaving a few dollars on the table to have a better product that will last generations.

[@nitePhyyre]

@@simpsonpropertiesltd The thing is RC is already overbuilt so that you can use less of them. Them more use use means the more the wall is coupled. You are giving more support to the drywall but reducing the effectiveness of the RC. So you are spending more to to use RC over wood furring, then spending even more to make your RC worse.

[@raywalsh8807]

Will it support 5/8” drywall for a ceiling? Thank You

[@darrenjans3854]

I used it for double 5/8s. Plenty strong enough

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Yes it will. As Darren said it’s designed to support two layers of 5/8” drywall.

[@markbelnick6645]

Great Video! Would you alternate the flange side on the resilient channel every 16 inches as you go for more support for the sheetrock?

[@simpsonpropertiesltd]

Thanks. No that’s not required.