How to KILL your BASS!

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DIY Audio Guy

DIY Audio Guy

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@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
You need a decent box and you need decent wire: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqCXpoduaqmIqLs
@Jimpa31
@Jimpa31 2 жыл бұрын
Put more money into your front system is also a way to make u feel u get a louder system. A big sub woofer system wont sound that good if u cant get the mid and hi to make upp for it .. Sure u will feel allot off bass and the car will rattle but your still feels like the system does not play as loud as it should. Always got the recommendation to get an amplifier and an decent front system before putting the hole budget on a big expensive sub woofer. A good front system that installed correct can make wounder for your system, even if u get an cheaper woofer to make the budget
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
For sure! I will need to do a video on that sometime!
@rainbowsnowflake5754
@rainbowsnowflake5754 2 жыл бұрын
Truth Having balance in a system is way better than just boom boom
@kylesmith9048
@kylesmith9048 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowsnowflake5754 Boy that’s an unpopular opinion. I couldn’t agree more!
@jamescorfield534
@jamescorfield534 Жыл бұрын
Sounds right. No music with your your bumps you ain’t jammin.
@bondalero0074
@bondalero0074 7 ай бұрын
Some of the newer cars have great factory sound nowadays. My wife’s car has a nice Bose factory sound, my last Jeep Wrangler had upgraded Alpine system, and my Nissan Titan had an upgraded Rockford Fosgate system. With these I just added a 10” DVC2 sub and enclosure with a D4S JP8, RF R1-750x1, or Kicker 800x1 amp and they ALL sounded phenomenal for a 1K watt system!#🔊❤️
@reedstemen
@reedstemen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this straight forward explanation. In my highschool years my friends and I did not have a grasp on the “buy balanced” theory and we all had mismatched systems that were often disappointing. After a few years we got it figured out, but these videos you make help the newcomers to avoid wasting a lot of money and time.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
That is what I am shooting for! I remember being that high school kid when all of this stuff was made with unobtanium.
@303nitzubishi4
@303nitzubishi4 2 жыл бұрын
Great topic. It's taken some of us years to learn these lessons (often the hard way) and I hope the noobs out there appreciate guys like you spreading this knowledge so they don't waste as much time and $ as we did back in the 90s tryna get a good sounding system put together! PS I bought that leiges amp on your and Derek's recommendation and it's a little beast 😈
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I remember what it was like being broke and dreaming of having subwoofers. I hope those new people can find the video and save themselves some grief.
@7he5treets
@7he5treets 2 жыл бұрын
Top quality an well explained content. great stuff 👌
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@wal
@wal 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Packed with tips, hints and even goteem moments! Love it!!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@TheTrueVoiceOfReason
@TheTrueVoiceOfReason 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that should be added is to make sure your sub and the box are matched fairly well. Spending maybe an hour to familiarize yourself with something like WinISD and your sub"s Thiele / Small parameters will help you match things up much more than just following a generic " 12", 2 cu.ft., tuned to 35 Hz" headline. Checking this out before buying can save you a lot of grief. I know you have tutorials up, and Nick has his tutorials as well. And if anyone has questions, Nick's website forum will be glad to help out.
@Toid
@Toid 2 жыл бұрын
Great call! I always love the information you share. And thanks for the forum and KZbin shout-out.
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
I have these 12" eminence drivers that were requiring 3-3.5 cubic feet each to play flat to 40 Hz.
@freeradical431
@freeradical431 2 жыл бұрын
Youd make a great Captain Spaulding for Halloween! lol
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
What's the matter kid? Don't you like clowns?
@freeradical431
@freeradical431 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy lol of course! Im watching your vids! jk
@TRONMAGNUM2099
@TRONMAGNUM2099 2 жыл бұрын
You make some good points. My listening has changed, and I like subs that do well in smaller sealed enclosures. I know I lose out on some low end, but It's a good compromise for me. I'd also rather pay a little more and not get rock bottom budget amps. Something like the low end Kicker line is a good compromise for me. Not crazy expensive, but super durable. One thing I'm not sure if you ever mentioned, but ever notice how cabin acoustics make a huge difference. In one car a system sounds great and in another you hardly get any bass.
@ParkerTheBasshead
@ParkerTheBasshead 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always!!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bluestripes1
@bluestripes1 Жыл бұрын
would love to see some tests on 5/8 vs 3/4" boxes of the same OD
@abelscaliber7969
@abelscaliber7969 Жыл бұрын
Negligible
@CrazyWillification
@CrazyWillification 2 жыл бұрын
This is the constant argument I'm having currently with myself. I had that little 500w for 10 days on two subs at 1.5ohm. IT CAUGHT FIRE! Running 4ga power and ground. Gain at 75%. Thinking of getting the JP8 to run just one of the 12s as I bought a new box few weeks ago because the two 12 box was dead. All seams were broken and I didn't really have room for the two 12 box. Seriously considering replacing the one 12 for a 10 in the same 1 cu ft porter box.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
The $65 Legis Audio amp caught fire? OH crap!
@CrazyWillification
@CrazyWillification 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy absolutely. Wife and I were getting off interstate and started smell something burning. Radio was at VERY low volume. I yanked the power wire from it. Returned it the next day. I bought it after Derek did a review.
@mmadd7
@mmadd7 Ай бұрын
@CrazyWillification it sounds like that amp was way too small for those subs. If you have to turn the gain up past about halfway, you need a bigger/better amp. Example- my subwoofer is rated at 2800w max 1400w rms. I run it on a 2,000w amp at 1ohm. When you consider the fact that your impedence changes with every note played, along with the fact that I'll only ever see that 2,000w on the most perfect day, playing the perfect note, with perfect electrical, the set up is damn near perfect. My gain is less than a quarter of the way up (25%), and at the highest playable volume (about 75%-80% of the stereo's max volume) I get no clipping. Long story short, if you match your sub better with the amp, you'll be much happier with the result.
@kswis
@kswis 2 жыл бұрын
Too many folks underestimate the importance of a good box and power to sustain their system. Those two things destroy a lot of gear. Another excellent video
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@Chuck_Sanders
@Chuck_Sanders 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You can take a cheap driver, and pit it in an excellent built, and properly tuned enclosure, and get killer results. Where as, you can take a high end driver, and put it in an inefficient, poorly designed enclosure, with horrible results. The key, is in the enclosure. For those that do not have table saws, and or experience in enclosure building...get someone to help with a design and a cut sheet. Your local Lowes and Home Depot, will cut your wood at no charge. Then you can glue it and assemble it yourself. Great learning experience all around.
@xxg0t3mxx
@xxg0t3mxx 6 ай бұрын
Box makes the sound that’s the one thing you don’t wanna skimp on custom is the way to go!
@SouravTechLabs
@SouravTechLabs 2 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are informative. Love the way you teach!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@killabee623
@killabee623 2 ай бұрын
Yeah my first and last prefab box was too small and tuned too high, walls where thin as well. I modified then it bust at the seam.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 ай бұрын
A lot of people have had a similar experience, cheap boxes out there giving all boxes a bad name.
@tatsumaru12345
@tatsumaru12345 2 жыл бұрын
0:42 Cola-oh! is one of my favorites. Mixes great with rum too. Just a smooth pop.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It's always good to meet other store brand cola aficionado.
@ABWSKITCHEN
@ABWSKITCHEN 2 жыл бұрын
I got a used a couple of used Revel subwoofer drivers, they are still working and definitely is a big difference between cheap drivers and high end drivers. I used to think that cheap drivers were similar to expensive drivers like light bulbs, but over the years I can tell that there is a huge difference between cheap and high end drivers. High end subwoofers sound at least 100000 times better than cheap ones, there are tones that a cheap subwoofer will never be able to reproduce, sorry, but search for better quality subwoofers even is they are pre owned.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
There is a big difference between cheap and high end drivers. But, "cheap" is relative and diminishing returns are real. The subwoofer itself is not the weak link in this set up, it is enclosure. That sub sounds great in the right enclosure.
@ABWSKITCHEN
@ABWSKITCHEN 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy You need to try any Revel subwoofer, they are a life changer, I owned already over 35 subwoofers in my life, when I tried Revel, they changed my way of thinking about bass. I have 3 Revel B12 in my listening room, I mostly listen instrumental, classic, etc and never go up to 10% of the power on my amplifier, anyway it is a huge difference. You need to try this brand one day, you will be shocked.
@303nitzubishi4
@303nitzubishi4 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. There are plenty of folks out there that have to buy the latest and greatest gear, and they sell off stuff that is sometimes near new. if you keep your eyes open you can get lightly used, high quality stuff for the same price as buying something of far lesser quality new off the shelf.
@DkpProductions
@DkpProductions Жыл бұрын
Someone get this man a caliper or better measuring tape! lol
@elcaminosupersport
@elcaminosupersport 2 жыл бұрын
I put my skar evl behind the seat of my single cab Ford ranger in a 1/2 particle board not even mdf box is very solid
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@Camocountry1
@Camocountry1 5 ай бұрын
Id like to know what would be a good tune for 80s 90s country. I made a box a week ago sounded awesome with bass music , put some 80s and country on and it lost about half its bass! I was pissed. Spent all day making it.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 5 ай бұрын
For starters, there's less bass in '80s and '90s country music relative to rap music. No. 808 kick drum, no synthesized bass. The primary fundamental frequency of a kick drum is going to be 60 to 80 HZ. It's going to be about the same for a bass guitar. But don't tune your subwoofer enclosure to that. Most bass guitar cabinets are tuned to around 40 HZ if that gives you any context. The issue is most likely your crossover. Those frequencies are very near the crossover point between your mid-ranges and your subwoofer. Try swapping the polarity on the subwoofer and see if that helps.
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
I high pass my subwoofers a few Hz below the tuning frequency. That way the cone doesn't start flapping around if there is too low a bass note and it also sounds better.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4i1oHyepJx0bcU
@HifiVega
@HifiVega 2 жыл бұрын
Solid tips
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@ml-kk2bk
@ml-kk2bk Жыл бұрын
Hey, Can you review the Power Acoustic RZ4-2000DSPB please. Great video dude
@H43N
@H43N 6 ай бұрын
5:30 the earnestness of the question made me laugh
@budgetaudiowithJ
@budgetaudiowithJ 2 жыл бұрын
Good info here, I have a question and it seems like you have more knowledge than me. I'm building an enclosure for my 6 12s but cant decide between a subs up port back or a wall enclosure. Any feedback is greatly appreciated
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't know which would be louder. I think a wall will be harder to build because you have to actually wall everything off.
@Starbuckin
@Starbuckin 11 ай бұрын
Guy talking about Techmaster PEB and Bass 305 in 2022, my kind of guy!!!!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff!
@s1wheel4
@s1wheel4 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a quick question here. When you wired the 2 ohm dual coil subwoofer in parallel (on the voice coils) wouldn’t that make a one ohm load to the amp? Now, wouldn’t a mono amplifier split that ohm load in half, so to me, wouldn’t that have made the load on the amp actually 0.5 ohms? Wouldn’t this be somewhat a thermal management and/or a component value failure problem with the amplifier? I might have my math out of wack there. I was just wondering. A cheap amp might not be able to take this for very long IMHO. Thanks!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Nope, it is still a 1 ohm load. BUT! If you bridged a stereo amp and hooked that to a 1 ohm load it would give you a 0.5 ohm final load.
@michaelmartinez6660
@michaelmartinez6660 Жыл бұрын
Question.. I have two d2 crossfire c3 12’s I was originally going to run 3 and wire to 1 ohm to Orion xtr 1500.1 but decided to go with two instead because lack of trunk space. I was considering still running them with the Orion amp at 2 ohms. Big D Wiz said the Orion puts out 1200-1500 watts at two ohms. My subs are 400 rms. After watching this video and seeing you actually get less watts when connected to subs, I’m not sure if I should scrap that plan and just get two d4 subs. I just want the max output I can get from the subs I have, even if I’m running at two ohm and not fully utilizing the amps power. Will I get full potential out of my subs at 2 ohm in your opinion?
@RyanBassForLife
@RyanBassForLife 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 2 18" 3/4 Atrend subwoofer box that's tuned to 32hz.
@mmadd7
@mmadd7 Ай бұрын
People hate on Atrend, but if you take some time and talk with one of their people, you'll see that they actually put effort and knowledge into building enclosures. They will also build custom enclosures for a great price!
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Test each box and listen you will hear which box design is the best lowest Bass.
@mullinperformanceaudio5902
@mullinperformanceaudio5902 2 жыл бұрын
All great points. I think the most underrated is building your system to what kinda music you listen too. I listen to everything so I need a system with a wide range.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@theegreatest9322
@theegreatest9322 2 жыл бұрын
So I’ve always had ported but want to try out a sealed enclosure for my 15s . Does it matter how big the box is ?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and sealed boxes are generally a lot smaller than ported.
@pitikidbb2284
@pitikidbb2284 5 ай бұрын
Im replacing the factory sub in my car as it went bad. I have been planning an enclosure for it however it will be running on the factory amp. The replacement would be a Skar 8 Inch dual ohm 150 Rms. Stock amp puts out 55rms to each of the two channels. Would this deliver some more kick? Do you believe it is worth my troubles?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 5 ай бұрын
It will be better than nothing. Do you know if the factory subwoofer was a dual 4 ohm? If it was not then you might have a mismatch. I'd hate to see you blow your factory amplifier because you hooked up the wrong subwoofer.
@pitikidbb2284
@pitikidbb2284 5 ай бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy I checked out a number of forums and it was a 2 ohm
@no_bull
@no_bull 2 жыл бұрын
I have (4x) Tannoy SFX 8" active subwoofers for a small listening room. I am looking at replacing their bass drivers with something more efficient and longer cone throw. I can hear 40Hz and below without port chaffing, but the stock bass drivers bottom out max excursions easily and it kinda spoils it. Tannoy had built those subwoofer cabinets excellently as it's a well-known brand in the higher tier of home and professional audio. So from my observations the only thing that limits the subs at the moment is the stock drivers. They're 100 Watt Class AB amplifiers but can easily overpower the drivers. Any suggestions on brands of aftermarket subwoofer drivers?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
If you are looking to drop a driver into the existing enclosure then finding one that fits is job one. I would give these a look: parts-express.sjv.io/a1qmZZ You could make a mounting ring and probably get this one to fit: parts-express.sjv.io/gbjKQB Not sure how those would perform in the existing box, but they are a good place to start.
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 Жыл бұрын
What’s the best wood to build a subwoofer box? I’m thinking about getting a sundown 8” sub for my little ranger and what size box and port size would you recommend?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYK6hn5uhq94idE I'm guessing you're going to put the box behind the seat, you want to get the biggest box you can possibly fit.
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy It’s an extended cab. Thank you for your help.
@swurtz060506
@swurtz060506 2 жыл бұрын
I have a kicker cxa800.1 pushing 2 kicker l7t 10 inch subwoofers in a sealed box. Need help tuning the cover frequency and the gain. Also, should I stay with sealed box or go ported?
@rainbowsnowflake5754
@rainbowsnowflake5754 2 жыл бұрын
Go ported Use GRANITE zero vibration perfect tonal accuracy
@deviant4life25
@deviant4life25 2 жыл бұрын
Quality Content as always Justin!
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Thats the best bass design! But dont block the air hole whith insulation!
@23tomi23
@23tomi23 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I got 2 older Pioneers TS-W307D2 (800W RMS at 2Ohm). Got it wired down to 2 Ohm and running them on DD DM1000a amp (770W RMS at 2Ohm/ 1000W RMS on 1 Ohm). I like 2Ohm load more because it will draw less current from the batter/alternator, less heat and I also heard quality of sound is better then on 1Ohm. Now maybe I made a mistake with the box or not. I'm trying to save some space in the trunk so I went with sealed box version and sub chambers are not separated. I measured the outside dimension of the box and got 97Liters, lets say from the inside volume is then 87L (I dont know how thick the walls are). What do you think of the box, amp and the subs? I'm thinking in the future I'll change the subs to 2 DD 512d but I'm not sure how much advantage will I have if I buy 2 of them and wire them down to 1 Ohm and have them overpowered by 200W rms or keep the 2 Ohm load and have them underpowed by 30W rms?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not that familiar with the gear that you're running so I really can't say. My question, are you happy with it? If you are then don't change anything.
@urieldelteco
@urieldelteco 2 жыл бұрын
Just wish people understood there’s more to an amplifier than the RMS power output. There’s a reason some brands like kicker for fosgate cost more. Factors like efficiency, signal to noise ratio(less important in bass amps), protection circuitry, and reliability are all important factors.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
True
@damianporter7114
@damianporter7114 2 жыл бұрын
Could a box too thick effect the performance?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
No. It should sound better if it is thicker.
@pabbqmgv
@pabbqmgv 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, thanks
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@travisgulley2652
@travisgulley2652 2 жыл бұрын
Are the lanzar max pro 15 inch dual voice coil car subwoofers rated to only handle 500 watts per coil even though it says rated rms power 1000 watts rms and says peak rms 2000 watts rms in the specifications.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
That's right. If it's a 500 w sub that means 250 per coil. Honestly not sure what to Make of that brand. They've been around forever, back in the day they made some cheetah amps that were absolute beasts. But other than that, they don't seem to have very accurate power ratings.
@westreadwell9675
@westreadwell9675 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of your content is getting better and better. I really appreciate your efforts
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jamesharris3021
@jamesharris3021 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how to build a box. Who makes a good prefab box for two kicker 12 l5 squares? Thanks
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
There don't seem to be a lot of options. This might be your only choice: bit.ly/3Etb4O4
@hondayamaha3
@hondayamaha3 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this upload. I'm one of those on budget when I'm making something I'll go all out for a lifetime use. Thanks good sir you are inspiration
@joshhaas8121
@joshhaas8121 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great content! 👍
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@davidmusicstuff4979
@davidmusicstuff4979 7 ай бұрын
my playlist goes from bon iver to suffocation to code orange to vulfpeck to machine girl. research for a sub is taking awhile.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 7 ай бұрын
I'm not familiar with that music.
@cecilhosein4387
@cecilhosein4387 2 жыл бұрын
How to figure out how much a box is tuned to?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
There is a formula, you just need to know the airspace and the vent dimensions --or you can use something like this to do it: bit.ly/3E0MmFz or amzn.to/3I90wGz
@bcfmef
@bcfmef 2 жыл бұрын
Also , when making an enclosure , using screws , is far superior than using a million brad nails like so many enthusiasts like to use these days. I can’t quite figure that out.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Before I got a nail gun I used glue and clamps, no screws required.
@Chuck_Sanders
@Chuck_Sanders 2 жыл бұрын
Because the glue, when properly applied, is stronger than the wood. The glue will more than hold the panels together. Nails and or screws...are just basically the "clamps". Brad nailing, just holds the panels together, while the glue cures.
@robsorgdrager8477
@robsorgdrager8477 2 жыл бұрын
This is perfect. I have a friend that I struggle to explain how all this stuff works. I have been doing car audio since 95 and most of this is second nature to me. My friend wants me to " help " him build a system but he has never really looked into audio .....ever so I have shared your channel and told him to watch every video in the next week☺️
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LstrO42
@LstrO42 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty inarguable unless you're talking about sound reinforcement and instrument amplification. Try putting a HP filter at about 38hz on it, and it will play louder than anything you have. The main issue is the box compliance and the mechanical suspension cannot control the cone movement and it becomes erratically unstable, robbing any other potential sound. The big payback for all this processing is the available box gain increases tremendously (3-6 dB), and in the frequencies you have adjusted your box tuning to. The big down side is if the processing fails, everything else probably will too. Try it once, you might be impressed.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Sound reinforcement is a different game, there is some overlap but definitely outside of my area of expertise.
@LstrO42
@LstrO42 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy imagine my pain as I constantly hear about low frequency extension that arguably isn't necessary and mdf enclosures that would collapse after a hard week with me, but making a connection nevertheless because what consumers want to hear is invariably linked to my success as a live sound engineer!! My subs fB is 45hz, I can shake your pants at 30' in a 400 cap venue, and I've been using them for every genre imaginable for 10 years. I highly suggest trying the variable HP filter just for kicks. It might make you question the need for the low z's.
@Dan_Hazard
@Dan_Hazard 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone recommend an amplifier that can produce between 200to300 watts at 4ohms that has or can utilize a bass control and not to expensive. That'd be awesome Tia
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHjNnWeNrsx6ipo
@mikewaters6339
@mikewaters6339 2 жыл бұрын
Once again well done sir. A lot of people miss this exact process of setting up their system.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can get this info out and save a few people some trouble!
@acehole9100
@acehole9100 11 ай бұрын
Just hooked up a Jl Audio 12w6 (600watt continuous rms) into a Jl Audio 360 watt amp is this amp too underpowered?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it's a little bit underpowered. But that's not relevant. The real question is are you happy with the sound? If you are then you don't need to throw more money at it. Keep in mind that if you double the power you only get three more DB.
@acehole9100
@acehole9100 11 ай бұрын
It is louder than I need from the sub. Thanks for the response.
@Vegas_Baba808
@Vegas_Baba808 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Justin. Well thought out and presented in an easy to understand manner that outline key concepts that will help newbies like me.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Test out yout boxes by ear! Listen and test them! Youll find out which Bass Bix desug
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
All my gear identifies as high end, matched and tuned perfectly.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
😀
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
I have learned 2 things. 1. Buy rms rating. Not pmpo. 2. Anything that just shows 8000w (pmpo) and does not give rms rating is a waste of your money. Bought subs just according to rms and hooked amp on them with same rns rating. Was amazed. For instance. Targa 5500w subwoofer... 600w rms. Pioneer 2000w subwoofer 600w rms.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Yep max power is meaningless
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy i do have a question for you if you dont mind, although I see you are into subs a lot. This is about 6x9s. Remember they always come in pairs. So the rms rating they give, is it for both together or for a single one? For instance on the box it says 60w rms. Does this mean that each speaker can handle 60w by itself, or that each can handle 30w, but together it is 60w? I know it is a silly question, but I ran Kenwood KFCPS6986 (140 watt rms) on my amp which can only do 125w rms per channel. Sounded loud and brilliant. 1 month later both had problems with their tweeters :(. Distortion.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
@@mizmera it depends. Power ratings are often marketing terms as opposed to technical specifications. Sometimes the power rating on the outside of the box is total power for both, sometimes it is per speaker. The only way to know is to dig through the owner's manual.
@big1cam
@big1cam 2 жыл бұрын
Consider Renaming this video to... Crash course in car audio for dummies
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
GOOD IDEA!
@RyanBassForLife
@RyanBassForLife 2 жыл бұрын
Soundqubed is a good brand so is Skar Audio.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I have never tried Soundqubed.
@richardscarlett7942
@richardscarlett7942 2 жыл бұрын
old addage - "you get more mileage from a cheap pair of speakers"...Billy Joel. heheh
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Gangsta Bass!!
@25hztolife14
@25hztolife14 2 жыл бұрын
That Extra flex on the Kicker sub in the box concerned me. I thought it was going to explode.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
😃 This sub keeps surprising me with the amount of abuse it can take.
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Always look for the lowest Hz
@bcfmef
@bcfmef 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that tuning @ 40HZ is a tad high, but many manufacturers recommend 39-43HZ for many of their subs. Kicker, Rockford Fosgate , MTX … all have subs that require 40 HZ & above tuning for their recommended ported enclosures. Also I agree 5/8” boards are an absolute minimum for an enclosure, especially for the woofer mounting panel. However if properly braced, 5/8” boards can yield proper results. But I would never use that size for an enclosure taking on say more than 500 watts or with a gigantic 1000 watts rms subwoofer.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
My first DIY audio project was a home theater subwoofer. So I am used to tuning much lower.
@biscostuntz5930
@biscostuntz5930 2 жыл бұрын
Yes nothing sucks then spending money to re do , I just did 6-sundown X8s on a salt 4K, but now I’m going to 2 sundown zv6 15s on a salt 8k ..
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
That is a lot of power.
@billabongpro999
@billabongpro999 Жыл бұрын
Quick and dirty numbers I always look for when buying amps is peak RMS @ 4 ohms. There are cheap amps that make good power at 4 ohms and expensive amps that don’t. That’s the true test of an amps “bang for your Buck”
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
My fiancé calls bottoming out something very different but ironically similar technically..
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
HA!
@Saltydog547
@Saltydog547 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 12" subwoofer rated 600w at 1 ohm or 4 ohm and a mono block amplifier rated at 300w at 4 ohm and 600w at 2ohm. This is clearly a mismatch like what you mentioned in the video. I finally settled for running the pair at 4ohm at 300w which is underpowering the subwoofer. Other than not getting the full bang for the buck, will it be any issue if i just leave it like this? Am i going to lose out any details or control in the bass department?
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It's just not going to be as loud as it could be. Everything else will be the same.
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
You want a Solid box!
@ukokepaoa5536
@ukokepaoa5536 Жыл бұрын
Therrs budget then theres no limit
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Air flow is Bass.
@matthewcooke4477
@matthewcooke4477 2 жыл бұрын
As far as amps go My only rule = BUILD THE AMPLIFIER (not necessarily the circuit) MYSELF
@james10739
@james10739 2 жыл бұрын
I would have thought 40hz was on the low side but ok
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I guess that depends on how you define low.
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
We all know Audiobank has the best remote bass knob🤣
@RobMitshi
@RobMitshi Жыл бұрын
If its ok , I would like to share a track to all the bassheads omongst you, the track is on youtube, Achiel - Enderman (Rob Mitshi) , Its a mean techno track and if you wanna give your speakers a run for some fast paced kickin, this one should do some damage. I love the channel and build my own enclosures. Running my studio with adam Audio A7x's as top units, a 10 inch sub (tremblor 10), and a 12 inch sub ( good old MAGNAT BULLDOG 3000 in a homemade case to add some warmth :). Currently Building a set of 15 inchers to close the deal :). I hope you check me out, if you google me your destined to find some good bass. feel free to put in the comments how U experienced the sound, and what system you used to listen. Thanks for the cool info Audio Guy, you helped me out a lot !!
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
👍
@jumpsuite
@jumpsuite 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you go down from 2ohms to 1 ohms dose not give more spl or is any better.if a amp can't deliver at 2ohms but delivers at 1 ohm it's not better its not rated correctly. Point is buy a good name brand like alpine Rockford foshgate ect.i know many guys that do this. The thd is my concern.no name amps are never legit high out put ratings are false never true. Just but names you can trust
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. But I don't get too hung up on brand names.
@dudders___1684
@dudders___1684 2 жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is I’m pretty sure this is the ported box I tried my sub in, and the amount of bass it put out was a lot less than my non ported box, which made me decide to go with non ported boxes
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of box is what it gives ported enclosures a bad reputation.
@dudders___1684
@dudders___1684 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy well now that I know that, I may go get a regular ported box with a small round hole and see how it does after that lol. Thanks for the video man this kind of helps out a lot
@dudders___1684
@dudders___1684 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy subbed to your channel so I can learn some more cool stuff about subs. I’ve had them a few times in different cars I’ve had but I don’t know everything about them, about to enough to put one in and tune it the best I can
@justchillin7274
@justchillin7274 2 жыл бұрын
A shop near my area was selling box that looked to be meant for a 10 inch but with the cutout meant to fit a 12 inch sub. They let me try it cuz the cutout was sooo close to the side walls it looked like the basket would almost touch the walls when installed. And they were selling it for like $100. I looked up the box online, and it did seem like a box for a 10 inch. Online the sub cutout looked to have 2 inches between it and the sidewalls. That box only had a few cm between them. My first box was a used sealed box that had 1 1/5 inch front baffle i paid $25 for it. Super solid box (still have it running to this day.) the box the shop had was probably the same size, but it was a ported box, so it definitely wasnt an upgrade for me. After that i decided to make my first box for a Rockford punch 3. Then i made one for 2 12 in soundqubed hdc3. That set up was too big for my car trunk, and after i got a crossover suv, i turned one hdc3 into an hdx 15, and made another custom box with a round port. The other sub i sold along with the box i built. I just lost trust in car audio shops after seeing all the bad equipment they sold
@blakebrockhaus347
@blakebrockhaus347 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, there's nothing wrong with something that's good for the money. But you need to spend a certain amount before you actually get something that's worth it
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Right, it is OK to spend more to get more.
@natskar
@natskar 2 жыл бұрын
Buy once cry once
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
Bass air must have space to make Bass!a small box cannot multiply sound waves!
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 Жыл бұрын
I knew a guy that had 3 Rockford fosgate 10”s in a tiny sealed box… It was like to small to be a truck box btw…😂 It sounded like total a$$…😂 I was thinking damn you really paid these people to hook that junk up for you! Lmao It was pathetic, I’ve heard a single 8 hit harder than that…😭
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
I don't doubt you one bit.
@dannypalmer7701
@dannypalmer7701 Жыл бұрын
You want 20 H-z
@penttijakonen3817
@penttijakonen3817 2 жыл бұрын
Umm, it's never good to get an amplifier that just barely enough powerful and also higher impedance is better for several reasons...
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Right, it is a system and the parts need to match up and pair well together.
@penttijakonen3817
@penttijakonen3817 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy I just mean that you can't really get a too big amplifier. I rather run too big amplifier at 8 ohms than "right" amplifier in 2 ohms, getting the same power. Not a small budget system for sure though.
@cecilhosein4387
@cecilhosein4387 2 жыл бұрын
What I realized is imo, older boss amps like the chaos series deliver exactly what they advertise and in some cases even a little bit more
@sc0or
@sc0or 2 жыл бұрын
Rule #x: don’t buy an enclose box cause it MUST be calculated according to your driver parameters. Period.
@HashDogg06
@HashDogg06 2 жыл бұрын
This is where MBE comes into things for those people in need of help.
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
Buy a second subwoofer if you already have one and need to wire down.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly -- got to match those voice coils so that you can get the power out of the amp.
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy yes sir
@kdoeone
@kdoeone 2 жыл бұрын
Well if you buy junk you get junk. Buy a great brand like sundown or down for sound. Don't waste your time or money on anything boss or cheaper junk. These amps have always been garbage. 2300 watt amp from jp is under 400 dollars. It's very cheap.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Those JP amps are a killer deal. Now that the JP 23 is available in Blue I am going to order one. Also look at NVX amps. bit.ly/3CHGouy
@kdoeone
@kdoeone 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYAudioGuy I saw one in purple too. Looked great. Enjoying the content!
@txkingg
@txkingg Жыл бұрын
all this crap is intimidating to new people, that is why the skar packages are great.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
True, one of my goals is to make this accessible to new people.
@rainbowsnowflake5754
@rainbowsnowflake5754 2 жыл бұрын
Having the right box is 75% of the battle to have good sound
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
True.
@LacerationAudioPinoy
@LacerationAudioPinoy 2 жыл бұрын
I dont even know what does a good bass sounds like... My entire system costs about $100 :///
@LacerationAudioPinoy
@LacerationAudioPinoy 2 жыл бұрын
10" subwoofer on an unknown tuned L-ported prefab box
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Budget bass!
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