How to learn Vocabulary with The Goldlist Method

[@shitpostcentral1802]

I'm definitely going to give this a try! I'm trying to learn all 1,000 most common Russian words. Thanks a bunch for making this video. It was very easy to follow along. :)

[@devonrd]

Awesome! Best of luck with your learning journey 🤗

[@babylonchild8341]

Удачи

[@languagelearningdabbler]

Hi Diana! I’m also learning Russian. If you want to support each other feel free to connect with me on IG. Same account name. 🤓 I’m just getting started with Goldlisting so I’d love to hear about your progress.

[@xiangshipin]

​@@languagelearningdabblerHow is your Russian going?

[@receparuz9589]

Dude, did you learn common Russian words ?

[@jackeroo08]

Thanks for this . You’ve explained it better than most on KZbin. 🏆

[@devonrd]

Thank you for the feedback! I'll make more videos soon :)

[@manaakitiarankin8128]

That’s because most of KZbin have no idea what they’re doing but claim to be “language specialists” and “polygots”.

[@zmanjaxon6918]

I do agree, the Goldlist method looks more complex, but it's easier.

[@o_felipe_reis]

Hey Devon! Great content. Another tip is recording yourself while you read the vocabulary. Write phrases with them and read aloud. Listen to it while you are driving, washing the dishes and so on. Professor X here. Stay safe.

[@devonrd]

Thank you! That is indeed a great idea. I would definitely use this when starting out in a language. With German though, I prefer listening to podcasts at this point :)

[@o_felipe_reis]

@@devonrd That's what I call "leisure learning". Cool man! Stay safe!

[@anastasiamatyash3288]

Endlich habe ich eine gute Erklärung dieser Methode gefunden! Vielen Dank für das Video und liebe Grüße aus Russland! :)

[@tomward2130]

This is a great video. Why it has only 2k views?

[@devonrd]

Thank you!

[@nikakvrivishvili1937]

I was looking for a decent explanation of Goldlist method, thanks for providing it! I'll go try right now! P.S. you look cute 🙈🙊

[@devonrd]

Thanks for the kind comment! ^_^

[@TH-cq7bj]

Súper pausa

[@asythekid9124]

Wtf bro. Idk but im glad u mentioned me in the comments. This is exactly what i need

[@devonrd]

Hahaha, it must've happened whilst sleeping. Glad the video is helpful :)

[@rodebarradasilva954]

Vou tentar este método gostei do vídeo, seguirei o canal para mais dicas. :)

[@teumelodyosiasj.c6562]

your video are so good, thank you for making the video~

[@devonrd]

Thank you! :)

[@Eyeglasses404]

This explanation is beautiful and simple. Thanks bruh. 😊✌🏼

[@devonrd]

Thank you! :D

[@loiselw]

THOSE EYES. (also, what a coherent explanation)

[@callaghankin_comedy]

Hi great video, very helpful. Two question about all the thousands of words you have acquired from this method. Having all these words in your arsenal, do you find it easy to use them in a conversation instantly without having to really think to remember them? Like the words literally just come out of your mouth without even thinking. I am learning spanish and I am quite advanced in terms of speaking and I notice a lot of words just come out instantly in a convo without me thinking or translating and then some words words do not. My second question is have you noticed improvements in listening comprehension from learning vocab through this method? Thanks

[@devonrd]

Yes and no! Some words came to me very easily after distilling them from my lists. The words that I had more difficulty with, were often the ones I didn't know the proper uses of. The solution then was to write sentences with these words, assisted by a native speaker. And the point regarding the listening comprehension, definitely! Knowing the word by heart takes up less working memory for our brain, leaving more working memory open for unknown words :)

[@callaghankin_comedy]

@@devonrd ok thank you!

[@brunnovoronkoff4510]

I've just started my goldlist method today and I'm already very excited. It looks like a really powerful tool to improve vocabulary! Are you learning portuguese? Cause I'm Brazilian hahaha 😄

[@devonrd]

It is! :D Haven't started learning Portuguese just yet! But will be learning it someday for sure :). What language are you learning at the moment?

[@inglesgratisparaninosconla7731]

Hey, how are you doing? Greetings. I liked this video. I'm studying English

[@_z_z8392]

Thanks a lot for all the offer you have given us, I didn't understand everything if someone did please help me, after 2 weeks what I should do with the words I remember and the other not remembered do I need to repeat them or what I do and if it work with Phrases thx alot 😅

[@devonrd]

Thanks for your comment! Yes this does work with phrases, although they need to be short (max. 6 words I suppose). After two weeks you test yourself on the list: the words you didn't remember go onto the new page (new distillation). The words you remembered are gone! You do nothing with them :) (I write a check mark next to them.)

[@_z_z8392]

@@devonrd thx a lot for the response you are very helpful I appreciate it

[@experimentingme7669]

The gold list method seems to be passive in an active way when learninh new words. 😂

[@hatdoghatdog1570]

will this help with chinese vocabulary and characters?

[@devonrd]

Hey! I have no experience yet with learning Chinese, although I do plan to in the future. I saw this a while ago that might help you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGXVp4iIfcSDb5Y&ab_channel=RobertGenito

[@hatdoghatdog1570]

@@devonrd tysm 😊

[@dancingpistons4004]

Do youbfind the gold list method more effective and faster than any other method?

[@devonrd]

Maybe not faster, but more effective in the long run. It makes it nearly impossible for words to not get into your long term memory, and if they won't after 4 distillations, you can leave those be. The method forces you to be pickier in the vocabulary you want to learn, which is a big advantage in my opinion. Secondly, you can learn organically and more personally this way, because You are creating the lists. I will make a video in the future on why I think the method is more effective than others. It's for sure worth the try!

[@ThisIsNotInUseOkay]

Just heard about the Goldlist method from reading the Polyglot Project, a book of different polyglot personal stories, and the guy who created the Goldlist Method has an entry. How long have you been using the method? Easy explanation! Thanks!

[@devonrd]

I've been using the method for over a year now. I've filled a thick notebook with lists up to 1700 words, for Spanish. Now also have around 1700 and going towards the 2000 words in German :)

[@ThisIsNotInUseOkay]

@@devonrd Wow! Toll!

[@devonrd]

@@ThisIsNotInUseOkay have you used the method? :)

[@shohinidutta7634]

Wait, I have a question... When I make the first headlist and after a week I comeback to check it... So in between that time what should I do??? Should I keep learning like learning grammar, rules of grammar, etc...I don't know what to do in between... Could you please help..??? Thanks... You're video is really helpful... 🥰🥰🥰

[@devonrd]

After making a new headlist you can go to the next two empty pages and make another one, etc... I would use a seperate notebook for this method (seperate from grammar). Also, you want to wait two weeks before checking the list again :)

[@annak4891]

Svenska: jag är från Polen och jag lär mig svenska :) jag skrev min första gyllene lista och det är ful:( jag har 46 nya ord... vad kan jag göra nu? skriver igen eller advänder listan med mer ord och ska börja ny lista med 25 ord? jag hoppas att du kan hjalpa mig...

[@paulojose5631]

How much time does it spend on the beginning? I am learning french, Italian and Japanese and I also have to keep my English ative, so I can't spend much time at once, I am doing just anki and Comprehensive input, is it worth on this situation?

[@aonefakind]

I wanna learn the conjugation of verbs. Would you still recommend this method?

[@devonrd]

I'd use flashcards or rewrite conjugation tables for that :) I will make a video on that!

[@aonefakind]

@@devonrd ¡muchas gracias!

[@divyanshum.1491]

It's been a month since I'm in this method, but I've a query do we have to write the word that we learnt, somewhere.... mean to write them somewhere else.. ??

[@devonrd]

Nope :), the words that you had correct during your revision will disappear from the lists, since you now know them. Does this answer your question?

[@divyanshum.1491]

Ok so your are saying that the word have sticked into my mind and there is no need to write them anywhere if it so thank you very much.....🥰🥰

[@anastasiamatyash3288]

Do you read words out loud after writing them down?

[@devonrd]

When testing myself on the words yes :)

[@sertiverinacov4003]

what if I want to learn 50 words everyday, for a month? does this method effective? xmm..

[@devonrd]

Absolutely! But why would you stop after a month?

[@sertiverinacov4003]

@@devonrd I mean every day 50 *30day = 1500words . right? by gold list method, can I do that? because you mentioned that after write word lists, you needs to wait 2 weeks and then check again. etc

[@devonrd]

@@sertiverinacov4003 Yes, for example: you can make two new headlist (of 25 words each) per day, this would result in 1500 words in one month. Two weeks after having made the first one, the workload will increase though, because if you want to still add 50 words per day, you have to create 2 headlists per day + distill the 2 headlists from two weeks ago. This is why in the beginning you can make a lot of headlists, but as time passes you might want to slow down a bit to actually 'Consolidate' all the words from previous weeks. I hope this answers your question :)

[@sertiverinacov4003]

@@devonrd thanks for kind replies :)

[@mustafaal-jubori7072]

To be honest with you lam have been tried every way to increase my vocabulary and finally, l found the best way to improve my vocabulary and l think it's very useful to you to try to do it however the way is making every word l need to learn it a picture that be resemble meaning of this word for example when l learn a word king or queen I will research in Google the picture of the king and save it on my computer and when l collect 100 words and make for them pictures special to them I will collect all these pictures in one picture and save him in my phone and l trying to memorize these words by the picture l designed it

[@ruthtaylor1083]

Can you please explain why the page is cut at 14 lines, 10 lines etc. I didn' t understand that part. How to cut. Where to cut. Why cut?

[@devonrd]

Of course! The idea is that your original list (called 'headlist') is distilled into shorter and shorter lists with each practice session. Each time you practice, you seek to remove about 20% of the words on the list. That way the list keeps getting shorter

[@kimjanoras5579]

Is it ok to write a short sentence rather than 1 word?

[@devonrd]

Good question! You can, as long as it is short enough that it is still useful and you can memorise it :)

[@kimjanoras5579]

@@devonrd thank you!

[@רונהלוי-ה1ז]

its may be a good method but with english i need also hear the words it's not enough read and write, cause that i need write it 2 times, first at my notbook and after in computer i think maybe its a lot of work 2 its no actually we dont repit at them becuse we do things with the lenguage like watcheing videos, books, musik and more, and we meet them at by way 3 i find it cecome harder find new word when you a littel bit advence in lenguge, and its wants a long time to find 10-20 words usuble with a context, and i dont wnow what i can do? (i dont say i'm advence i have alots of mistaks and bad pronuntion and wors listening comprehension end i yet must learn new words, but i have vocablary a kind good and its difcualt on me find more if i dont have time read many

[@ahaanaannu6061]

I want to learn English

[@marvelenia6702]

Hello Devon, I have a question. I have been moving a lot so I speak some languages already and for me the route to speaking it was always first understanding it completely and after that happened I automatically started to speak and it all worked out fine within 2 to 2,5 years. Do you think it is okay for me to use this method the other way around? So I can check wether I understand the meaning of a word/sentence and move on. I am asking because for my next move I would like to start off right now learning the new language, that is, learning to understand it first since I know this has been the route for me until now. Will it be as effective? Hope I got my point over clearly...Thanks for this nice video! I left a sub :-) Kind regards and good luck from Germany. (ik ben eigenlijk ook Nederlandse maar dat is alleen maar mijn nationaliteit verder heeft het niet zoveel betekenis voor mij haha!)

[@devonrd]

Wow, so you abstained from practicing speaking for such a long time? I think using this method is helpful in all stages of learning a language, but most of all the middle stage (B1 and beyond), because here is where contextual vocabulary becomes very important, and having a system like this is very helpful, because you can take words from the material you consume (whether that be reading, listening or watching) and practice them :). If you are starting out on a completely new journey, I would suggest prioritising simply consuming as much comprehensible input as possible, and learning some grammar here and there. As for speaking, I think it's very beneficial to start to make your first sounds in a language already in the first months. And I say sounds because that is where we start out!

[@marvelenia6702]

@@devonrd Thanks for replying! Yes I abstained from speaking until I understood everyday language, hearing it and reading it. But maybe it is a knot in my brainwiring because I did not speak my mother tongue until I was 6 years old. My parents and everybody else though I was mentally retarded or even deaf but no....I guess I am just wired differently. But I will give this method a try. If it makes me feel uncomfortable I will go back to just absorbing for the time being. Thanks for your time and effort and good luck with german, my third language and actually my best at this moment.

[@معاذناصر-خ4ط]

Thank you Devon (^_^)

[@devonrd]

With pleasure ^_^

[@ashwinnmyburgh9364]

well, I'm going to give this a try, but I am not so sure about it tbh XD But just to get this straight, I write a list of words, then their translations, and just forget about it for two weeks. Once the two weeks have passed, I revise and write the ones I forgot? Also, is it advisable to do this while still learning the grammar? or only after attaining a good level of grammatical understanding?

[@devonrd]

Yeah give it a try! You can start doing this method at any point in your language journey, and a grammatical understanding is definitely not necessary! You can have this method as your main vocab method, and practice grammar seperately. Verb conjugations that I find difficult I write in the headlists as well, so I practice those more :) As for revision: make sure you don't simply look at the answers, but try to really 'produce' the translation. (even better if you say it out loud, this has been studied) This ensures that the actual answer (if wrong) sticks better! All the best with your practice

[@ashwinnmyburgh9364]

@@devonrd thanks a bunch man! I will be trying this out. Have a good day and happy learning!

[@therovingbachelor]

☺❤

[@aliel3485]

I am a blind person. How can i write in a notebook ! This part is quite challenging

[@devonrd]

You might opt for a different approach in that case. I'm not very experienced with this, but I could imagine that there are flashcards apps that prompt you with sounds, and where you can respond by saying you knew the answer, in which case the word will not return quickly, or respond by saying that you didn't know the answer, in which case the word will come back to practice it again. If I come by a good solution I will tell you!

[@aliel3485]

@@devonrd thank you so much.

[@Elpollitopio2012]

It's so complex, not so easy. Flashcards are the best option

[@unknown-otter]

Or just watched a couple of hours of videos with the interesting vocabulary in a target language, or go read a book. You'll actually acquire them and not just memorize them

[@MrMojo271]

Bist du Deutsch lernen? Ich auch

[@didfrost]

After some time of using Anki, it becames extrimly boring.

[@devonrd]

Yeah, totally agree! I loved sitting on the couch with my coffee or tea, a cozy blanket and an interesting book/series in the target language and just jot down the words in my notebook.

[@paulwalther5237]

I'm shocked this method works for people. You slightly modified it from the method I saw on KZbin years ago - the video I saw doesn't recommend memorizing the words at all just writing them down and reading them over a couple of times. But basically you have to cut the list every two weeks regardless of whether you remember enough words or not and this is where the method failed me. Aside from the first distill, where did remember a few words, probably because they were coming up elsewhere, I forgot everything. Weirdly, I was thinking about this method recently and I'm trying out 2 week intervals instead of 1 day intervals with Anki. I am just starting this out so I don't know how well it will work. I imagine it will work quite well with any vocabulary I've been reviewing for a while but still fail sometimes. I have no idea how it will work for completely new vocabulary though. The author of this method chose two weeks because if you test yourself too soon you're just testing your short term memory, when all you care about is your long term memory. In theory if you test something after two weeks you're testing your long term memory making this interval more efficient. It assumes of course that reviewing something every few days (short term memory) doesn't do much to push something into your long term memory. From using Anki for years and years my subjective view is that it doesn't do a whole lot to push it into your long term memory although who knows for sure. So testing something every two weeks instead seems like it could be much more efficient and makes sense but if you forget everything after two weeks then what? I would argue you need to test all the words again in two more weeks unless you think these words are all too hard for you thus you're better off never reviewing them again. If you use Anki to test yourself every two weeks it shouldn't be so time consuming. In theory. There's a lot of words to learn and if they're never sticking and you're always failing then it probably will add up after a while.

[@devonrd]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@devonrd]

The method is definitely not very effective in the short term. Looking back on this method I feel that it is effective for those who want to have some form of vocabulary practice that involves getting cozy with a notebook. Then again, the no. of words I can review per minute with Anki is orders of magnitude higher; you only need to know the 1-2-3-4 hotkeys, and off you go. 10 cards per minute is easily done. But then Anki might feel 'unromantic' or not the kind of experience people were looking for when thinking about learning a language, and from my experience that emotional side becomes very important long term for people to keep up their practice 😊😊

[@Shei-from-MCGI]

Hmm... You may need to improve your audio...

[@devonrd]

No doubt 😁, this was super low quality, but I wanted to upload it anyways, just in case it helped someone!

[@Daryan22]

Is anyone elses spanish teacher making them watch this??? P..S I have more subscribers than this guy

[@johnsch8634]

Oh man I'm going to memorize my way to fluency!!!!! Not!

[@devonrd]

Not sure where in the title it says that 😅

[@johnsch8634]

it's implied@@devonrd

[@معاذناصر-خ4ط]

Thank you Devon (^_^)