How to livestream a REMOTE GUEST interview with eCamm Live and the ATEM Mini

[@thisisgeoman]

Thankyou for sharing this. I was looking for someone to explain Ecamm outputs, but so far you're the only one doing this. Or my search-skills suck deeply. But anyhow, I'm very glad you showed this. What you showed fits my needs very well!

[@curtisjudd]

Nice run-through - thanks Aaron. Looking forward to that streaming bridge!

[@TommyCallaway]

Thanks for having me!! Still blown away by your live setup.

[@sungwoo707]

감사합니다.

[@GameOfSkool]

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

[@GameOfSkool]

Except I realized it's for mac only. I'd love to see that obs solution you mentioned, even if it means extra software. I'm still not sure how to get a full screen of my guest into the ATEM. All the web services like Remotely and Riverside seem to lack full screen mode, let alone seperate outputs. Thoughts?

[@GameOfSkool]

I just need a 1080p of the guest as a send to the ATEM but it seems oddly impossible.

[@aaronpk]

Check out vdo.ninja, it's made to work with OBS (it works with other stuff too) and it should do what you need!

[@GameOfSkool]

@@aaronpk Thank you so much!!!

[@PostColorGear]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Very cool stuff

[@Giorginho]

I'm wondering if this could work for bringing in a guest on the livestream: Getting a seperate laptop where you have a zoom call with your guest, you send the signal of this laptop to Atem Mini Pro (doing the streaming from the switcher in this case) via HDM, on the laptop use your Facetime camera for the guest to see you but make sure in Zoom to lock in on the guest camera so your viewers on Stream see the guest from the laptop feed. After this you could either alternate and switch cameras on your ATEM to show either yourself or your guest or set up a split screen picture in picture macro to have a conversation with both you and your guest on the screen at the same time. Regarding audio: Macbook can set up a multi-output device sound where you could send the same guest audio to the ATEM and to your wireless headphones. For the live viewers they will hear your regular microphone you use for streaming and the guest will be using his own microphone that will be heard via HDMI input to ATEM. Your guest will hear your wireless microphone sound. I know this is less than ideal but it is a cheaper and more accessible solution. I don't know if it actually could work though, I haven't tested it so I don't know if delays or some other thing could affect it. I would love to hear your thoughts and maybe even a test video on this. Thank you

[@L4LTVuk]

What splitter do you use from your cam?

[@marclindeman6704]

Any hdmi splitter will work, as long as you buy a splitter and not a switcher. Made that mistake once.

[@transformglobal]

Thanks for this Aaron. My Question - is that how does this all work with ISO recording? I really like the interview function of Ecamm - which is amazing - but love the ATEM Mini Pro ISO too. I get why its best to stream or record from hardware - being better and potentially more reliable. The ISO edit capability is stunning - especially if editing with DaVinci Resolve 17 to tidy up a missed reaction or comment for example.. However, I feel the macros in the ATEM are quite hard to use to get the functionality I need (ATEM Keys and Macros are not user friendly for a novice) and the scene capability in Ecamm (with a Stream Deck) is just far easier. Using the ATEM Mini Pro ISO along with Ecamm presents a problem though. Content coming in from the guests is already edited on the fly according to the scenes and their selection. I don't see a way to record the ISO's or change the edit in post. I might have missed something. So, you could have a picture in picture set up, with guests in a small window and host in the main - but I cannot see how it is possible to change the edit in post - other than host full screen from the ATEM camera feed? Am I missing something - or can you think of a good work around? Thanks again for all your great work Aaaron. (Steve Podmore)

[@brunofromb]

Merci. excellente idée. Ecamm vers Atem... Wow... super. je vais essayer.

[@gabrieljosetororodriguez903]

How do you put Gray BG in Ecamm

[@sungwoo707]

Dear Sir, Aaron Parecki I am not albe to get "the BMD HDMI" in video monitoing on outputmenu of eCamm Live. My main computer ( Mc mini M1 chip) is connected to Atem mini pro by USB c and HDMI cable to Atem HDMI input just like from your demonstration youtube, "main program screen of eCamm Live" could not be movable into the other channel view at Multiview of Atem. Look forward to hearing your reply soon.

[@SatyamNeelkamal]

Hey, what's your encoding hardware of choice?

[@MicrobeTV]

I'm wondering if I could use this to replace Zoom to record multi-guest video podcasts. I presume the recording would happen in eCamm. Would it be 1080p?

[@aaronpk]

Yeah you definitely can! eCamm can record the program locally as well as stream it, or you can just not stream it anywhere and record it only!

[@MicrobeTV]

@@aaronpk Can the guests be in widescreen? All the demos I've seen shown them in a narrow mode which I don't like.

[@theelvisphoto]

So in eCamm, when having multiple guests, do you have the possibility for chatting between them (and you)? Thinking that is an important feature, for discussions before the broadcast, especially if the guests also make up some kind of panel.

[@FeliciaAlston]

@@theelvisphoto Yes, the guests actually enter the green room and you can chat with them before and after the broadcast. You can set a bell to alert you when your guests enter the green room.

[@waichow3658]

Hi Great presentation. Would it work with Zoom with ATEM Mini Pro?. I like the side by side images (yourself and your guest speaker). That's the outcome that I am looking forward to. Thank you. Appreciate your answer.

[@picklejar5359]

Have you explored workflow using eCamm's NDI out to AppleTV running Sienna NDI Video Monitor (w Apple TV HDMI out to ATEM)?

[@blwatson]

You don't list the hdmi splitter that you are using. Amazon reviews seem to be of very mixed value when determining ability to split to a capture card. Would be great to know what you are using. Thanks for this vid.

[@MrMorden]

In regards to AFV. As soon as you switch with the Atem to another source, then the guests will no longer be heard. If you want to show another camera angle or pc, then you will lose their audio. Would it be best to always have that audio on and turn off the input 1 video or could there be a sync issue?

[@aaronpk]

Yes great point! If you want to continue to hear the guest’s audio while switching to other cameras in the ATEM then you’d want to leave the computer audio input on always, and then you’d disable the camera audio in your ATEM. So in my setup that would be audio in the ATEM only from input 3.

[@phcphcphc]

I really wish that Black Magic would integrate a plug and play solution in the ATEM for taking on a guest. I have so many requests for live streaming that include a virtual guest, but always try to push my clients away from doing this, as it is just such a hazzle. It might be fixable when you are at a desk, with all the gear in front of you, but when your main presenter is standing 5 meters from the camera and mixer table is starts getting complicated. With on-premise guests who also must see the virtual guest AND speak to this person, it is close to impossible.

[@nevillehenderson712]

I agree, this would be a game changer. I’d like to a platform like zoom to bring in guests. I wonder if the Extreme edition makes this more achievable. I’d be keen to see Aaron update this video, taking all the developments into consideration since this was originally posted.

[@bennozwanenburg9318]

You don't need to use AFV if you don't use the audio output from Ecamm. Just set the Mac output to HDMI and that's it. Audio what comes into a Mac doesn't come out 🙂

[@NoelDelPilar]

Great!!! I am going to try that way!

[@phcphcphc]

I am trying to do this setup but with Zoom into the Atem instead. Zoom does not have an output feature to push the Audio (from yourself) into the Atem, so you have to have the Atem channel with the camera ON for audio as well. I cannot find a work around for this, so the AFV could work like in your setup. Would be great if you could put your expertise into this and do a Zoom to Atem video.

[@vladimirs2940]

It gets even more cmplicated but if you use a digital mixer like DL16s from mackie (probably an overkill) with good audio routing you could achieve this. I cant comment on other mixers and audio interfaces but this should give an idea. Basic rough setup would be: Microphone into DL16s, main out to your speakers/PA, monito out into ATEM mini pro, USB-c to your computer. Instead of pushing your audio from Zoom into ATEM through HDMI, you are pushing audio from mixer into ATEM and through USB you are sending and receiving audio to and from ZOOM by selecting DL16s as your audio interface, or just in ZOOM set it as your microphone and as your speakers. Now audio routing (there are routing guides out there) can come in useful since you can choose exactly what audio from mixer is sent into your computer via USB and how zoom audio output is routed back. Default routing should eliminate audio loops already. And yes the DL16s can be controlled on iOS, androids windows etc. through your network. Hope this helps ! :)

[@vladimirs2940]

I believe Scarlett audio interfaces can be used too...search for some reviews i suppose.

[@JoeLicciardelloDrums]

Hey Aaron just wondering could you do the same this using OBS instead of eCamm to achieve a similar result ?

[@aaronpk]

You can, but it takes a bit more setup and some additional software. I'll try to do a future stream to demonstrate that setup as well!

[@JoeLicciardelloDrums]

@@aaronpk Thank you that would be great : )

[@theelvisphoto]

@@aaronpk In particular, it would be interesting to see how you route the audio when you have guests both live and calling in.

[@KuboriKikiamShow]

Correct me if I'm wrong, so basically the eCamm software is only in preview mode with you and the guest and the Atem is the one doing the streaming to a service of your choice? I's this posible in other apps like Vmix and or Streamyard?

[@JoeatAlphaCreative]

@Aaron Parecki , have you considered daisy chaining your ATEMs and eliminating the splitter? I've done this with a maximum of 3 atems using the output of one as the input for the next. With the camera input always being input 1 the latency was low enough that you could probably chain 4 or 5. Though I'm not sure I can listen to that many clients virtual events at once.

[@aaronpk]

I actually normally have them daisy chained, but I actually want my camera in both but able to switch the HDMI on both still separately, so that's the only way to do it. That said, you're totally right that for this setup it would have worked fine to run the HDMI out of the capture card ATEM into the streaming ATEM avoiding the need for the splitter! It was just already set up on my desk that way so made sense to use it.

[@tfechtenburg]

I still can’t get my head around this 😊 I have build the Streaming Bridge solution with the Raspberry Pi you showed, works perfectly 🙏 Lets say I have a guest on input 2 via the Raspberry Pi, and we are in lets say a Teams webinar session. If I put my guest online via the ATEM, the guest would hear he’s own voice with delay. Is the solution to also call my guest on a separate call, to avoid feedback. I’m quite embarrassed to ask this question, as I’m a nerd and normally knows most things. This I’m not sure how to solve best. Hope someone can help me 😀 Ps: having the Raspberry Pi running like a Hyper Deck, works like a charm, controlled from Stream Deck 😀

[@ScottyFranchyze]

How do you monitor your audio playback without headphones?

[@aaronpk]

Usually I plug headphones into the headphone jack on the monitor that's connected to the HDMI out

[@ScottyFranchyze]

@@aaronpk thank you. How do you feel about IEM’s for that?

[@aaronpk]

tbh I don't use IEMs, just headphones

[@markburke2414]

Great demo. I notice you push your ATEM audio levels into the red. Is that rather standard for the ATEM MINI? It does seem the ISO recording levels are low.

[@suzannebaugh393]

Is there a way to manage a zoom meeting or webinar with multiple guests with the ATEM Mini Pro? If so, do you have a video on that?

[@aaronpk]

You can't do the news-style 3 or 4-up views on the ATEM Mini, only with the much more expensive ATEMs. I do have a video about doing a 2-up layout on the ATEM Mini though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHykeJJ4n5aZgK8 As far as getting remote video into the ATEM in the first place, any way you can get your remote guests displayed on a monitor you can run that into the ATEM over HDMI. Here's a way to do it with the Streaming Bridge: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moqsf2ismb6UjLM

[@furmanbarnes3556]

Your diagram shows two hdmi outputs from the computer. If it's a laptop, where doe's the 2nd hdmi out come from?

[@aaronpk]

I was using a USB-C to HDMI adapter that has two HDMI ports. The other way I do this is to run two USB-C dongles out of the laptop and mirror them in the settings

[@furmanbarnes3556]

Thanks. I thought that might be the other option.

[@StefanFischerFacilitation]

Brillant!

[@TheTechnoPilot]

Notice excitedly it supports NDI output! Does it support NDI in?!

[@DeanCallan]

I have Ecamm as well as a man Atem mini pro and have been using them together. But my version of Ecamm doesn’t have the interview feature? And on output it doesn’t recognise the Atem?

[@aaronpk]

I forgot to mention that the Interview Mode is currently a beta feature so you have to download the special beta version for now! As for the ATEM, you need to make sure to plug an HDMI output from your computer in to one of the ATEM’s inputs, then it should show up on your computer as a second monitor and you can choose it as a video monitor output in eCamm. The realtime monitoring feature of eCamm is also a “Pro” feature.

[@GaryStockton]

Aaron, this is really cool. I have two atem's and want to try it. Can you tell me if the comments were placed on screen through eCamm or some other software?

[@aaronpk]

Thanks! The comments are shown with my normal method that I talk about in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqjGpXqqmdh7kKs rather than from eCamm.

[@Calvarydima]

Keep it up

[@tomsteuverkb8dxn132]

Is there a Windows substitute for eCamm Live?

[@mfubib]

Yep. OBS.

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome :)

[@London_drives]

I might have missed it. But i am guessing ur using the eCamm without streaming from it.

[@aaronpk]

yeah exactly, I'm feeding the eCamm output into the ATEM for streaming from the ATEM

[@rosarioh3053]

How does it look for the guest? Does he/she see you and hear u?

[@sitedev]

Nice. Having the multiview behind you out of sync with your main video is super distracting (triggers my OCD) :)

[@aaronpk]

Maybe next time I'll splice the image and sync it up!

[@ThisIsLeeBird]

If only ecamm live would show all inputs on the ATEM….

[@JurijsJutjajevs]

Way too complicated

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[@rafbass]

ATEM is not needed.

[@aaronpk]

you should watch the video, I talk about that in it 😊

[@rafbass]

@@aaronpk I watched the whole thing. You talk about it at the end ;)