How to make 30 fps on PC smooth (Is it worth it?)

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Vseslav

Vseslav

Күн бұрын

00:00 Intro
00:25 PC vs Consoles
01:09 The reasons to play 30 fps
02:25 How to make 30 fps smooth on PC
03:41 Setting up Vsync
04:55 Additional Nvidia settings
05:50 Installing RTSS for fixed frame time
06:46 Optional settings to improve smoothness
08:45 In-game settings
11:58 Locking fps, fixing frame time.
13:09 Final thoughts
Getting the console 30 fps experience on PC with v-sync and other settings.
Nvidia Profile Inspector:
github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProf...
MSI Afterburner and RTSS:
www.msi.com/Landing/afterburn...

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@SeaDemon25
@SeaDemon25 4 ай бұрын
good video. This is what i do. I have a 2060 super with ryzen 5 3600, old build, and i still play every game that comes out with this method. In the case of red dead redemption i lock it at 60 fps becouse i can actualy run it at 60+. Cyberpunk for example i play at locked 30 fps.
@Loukeyo
@Loukeyo 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this video!
@228HeadHunter
@228HeadHunter 7 ай бұрын
Greatt work it!!! So so thank you!😊
@GamerSpielerGermany
@GamerSpielerGermany Ай бұрын
So I don't need resolutions like 2k and 4k, 1080p is standard for me and ray tracing is always off because I can't stand ray tracing at all, regardless of the GPU, I always have the fps logged at 60
@Flynn0765
@Flynn0765 Ай бұрын
to make it "smooth" just gaslight and convince yourself that is very smooth. done
@khushalkhanmohammadzai8032
@khushalkhanmohammadzai8032 Ай бұрын
I have an rtx 3070 for 1080p gaming but I still prefer 30fps with max graphics on my story mode games. It's not as bad as people make it out to be.
@FloatSamplesGT710
@FloatSamplesGT710 25 күн бұрын
I'm now playing every games at 24 fps locked. With KB and M 💀💀 and im enjoying it.. thanks to RTSS. And warning to every modern gamers ⚠️⚠️ please don't try this until you're brave enough to play at those frames.. try sticking with your 144+ smoothness and thats what everyone will prefer.
@kakkarot045
@kakkarot045 28 күн бұрын
Been experimenting with this for couple of years including this method and while it is the best one available it still doesn't always works with Witcher 3 and AC4 being my recent test subjects. Gsync/Freesync might help but for the rest, console 30fps is still often better than PC.
@SogonD.Zunatsu
@SogonD.Zunatsu 2 ай бұрын
Honestly with tech like DLSS and FSR, it's better to try and reach 40 or 45 fps rather as it makes a WORLD of difference on input latency.
@stefanbogdan1898
@stefanbogdan1898 6 ай бұрын
Is the " maximum pre rendered frames " from NVIDIA Profile Inspector same as the " Virtual Reality pre rendered frames " from NVIDIA Control Panel or what's NVIDIA Profile Inspector's equivalent of pre rendered frames in NIVIDA control panel
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 6 ай бұрын
It's the same setting. You can leave it as "1" if your fps is steady or set it to "3-4" to improve performance.
@stefanbogdan1898
@stefanbogdan1898 6 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik but when i put 3 in nvidia profile inspector it doesnt change in the panel
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 6 ай бұрын
@stefanbogdan1898 well, the solution is quite obvious. Change it in the Nvidia panel. This setting is minor anyway. It won't change much. Just a small performance improvement with a little cost of input delay.
@imjerz3852
@imjerz3852 2 ай бұрын
Nvidia profile inspector can work with amd apu? Amd control panel doesnt have an option for pre-rendered frames 🥲
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 2 ай бұрын
No, that software works only for Nvidia. Don't care about pre-rendered frames. That option doesn't change much.
@stefanbogdan1898
@stefanbogdan1898 7 ай бұрын
i saw some posts saying that dividing ur exact "60 hz refreshrate" by 2 and putting the result in RTSS would achieve better input latency , what do you think , should I do that or stick to solid 30 FPS ?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 7 ай бұрын
There would be no vertical synchronization then. Say hi to screen tearing. As I said, you trade smoothness for responsiveness. Anyway, the input latency at 30 fps is already terrible so there's nothing to worry about imo.
@stefanbogdan1898
@stefanbogdan1898 7 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik alright , thank you a lot , i was waiting for some time for somebody to post about the "30 FPS Smooth on PC " topic and hear new opinions and way to do it , all the time I couldn't decide to one method cause all of them were simillar but in the same time different from many people , but I will stick to the one you showed in the video
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 7 ай бұрын
@stefanbogdan1898 for the record, I tried it without vsync when I didn't know how to set it up properly. You can also try, but I don't think you're gonna like the result. At this framerate, the screen tearing is insane, totally unplayable. Even 60 fps without vsync don't look smooth. No vsync only starts to shine at higher framerates like 90 fps+ and above.
@stefanbogdan1898
@stefanbogdan1898 7 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik I agree , thank you.
@DyingOvaColorz
@DyingOvaColorz 5 ай бұрын
Do u need rtss to cap frames or is nvcp good enough?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 5 ай бұрын
Only in RTSS or you get terrible frame time.
@kyoyaga1393
@kyoyaga1393 3 ай бұрын
I have a probleme with d3d12 and rtss cap the loading time take 3 minite please help
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 3 ай бұрын
The settings shown on this video have nothing to do with loading time.
@kyoyaga1393
@kyoyaga1393 3 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik thanks for your respond And i just want you know if have activate d3d12 i must desactivate rtss so the loading time dont take 4 minite do have the probleme as me
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 5 күн бұрын
I don't know why I'm watching this with a 4070 ti super
@kotko735
@kotko735 5 ай бұрын
I followed all your steps. Now the game really feels smooth but now I'm getting screen tearing because of disabling vsync. How to fix this issue?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 5 ай бұрын
I literally said to enable half-refresh rate vsync in the first place. Otherwise, it's unplayable.
@kotko735
@kotko735 5 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik brother I did that. But still getting screen tearing.
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 5 ай бұрын
@kotko735 you said you disabled vsync. Make sure the in-game vsync option is disabled and enable half-refresh rate in Nvidia inspector. Your monitor's refresh rate will be divided in half if set up correctly. Check the in-game resolution as well. What is the game in question? Does it run on directx? Are you looking for 30 fps?
@SeaDemon25
@SeaDemon25 4 ай бұрын
whats your screen hz? if its 140, lower it to 120. Make it compatble with the fps x 2. 30 fps u just play at 60hz/120hz/240hz
@user-pb9nl1dk2p
@user-pb9nl1dk2p Ай бұрын
Почему-то в Nvidia Profile Inspector'е не работает половинная частота обновления. Как тогда быть?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik Ай бұрын
Какая игра? Монитор в 60 Гц настроен?
@LakevusParadice
@LakevusParadice 4 ай бұрын
So I just did this and it seems to me that 30fps is not enjoyable with a mouse and keyboard. It is on the other hand very good with a controller because of the inaccuracy of the thumb sticks. Perhaps there is a slightly higher framerate that works better for mouse
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. It is recommended to play with a controller. Playing 30 fps with a mouse feels very limited.
@LakevusParadice
@LakevusParadice 4 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik I also think it’s still not the same as console experience because of a tv vs a monitor. I tested this yesterday and apparently most tv’s have a motion interpolation effect built into them to smooth it even further. And I looked it up and there is no option for this on pc monitors it simply doesn’t exist. Which is sad because I really like 30fps I think it feels better than 60’s experience and feels more “cinematic” somehow. but there just simply isn’t a way to get that same feeling with a monitor
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 4 ай бұрын
@LakevusParadice you can connect a console to monitors the same way you can connect a pc to TV.
@user-pb9nl1dk2p
@user-pb9nl1dk2p 3 ай бұрын
Hi! I tried this on my laptop (RTX 2050, I5 - 11260H) and that really works, but there is a problem. When I rotate the camera with my gamepad, all the objects twitch. At 60 fps everything is nice and smooth, but at 30 fps everythibg looks smooth too, but objects twitch even though I use motion blur. I tried this in The Witcher 3. Maybe I should try playing on the monitor and not on the laptop?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 3 ай бұрын
Try better anti-aliasing on the top of motion blur. You can use DSR on Nvidia to increase smoothness.
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 3 ай бұрын
On a gaming display I'd recommend you to play with settings, but I'm not sure it's an option on a laptop.
@user-pb9nl1dk2p
@user-pb9nl1dk2p 3 ай бұрын
​@@Vseslik I've already tried this. I also tried scanline sync x/2 and it just removed input lag, but the objects are still twitching. Now I'll test how the game looks at 30 fps on TV. I'm from Russia and it's a little bit hard for me to write in English. Do you know Russian or maybe you are Russian?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-pb9nl1dk2pне из России. Если игра хорошо работает на 60 кадрах, я бы рекомендовал играть в 60. Я сам так ведьмака проходил. Игра хорошо оптимизирована. Разные игры по разному выглядят в 30 фпс. Это зависит даже от монитора. Например, на моем старом 60 герцовом монике картинка в 30 фпс выглядит плавнее чем на 144 герцовом когда он настроен на 60 герц. На современных телевизорах картинка должна быть ещё плавнее. Там часто используют технологии интерполяции.
@user-pb9nl1dk2p
@user-pb9nl1dk2p 3 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik здравствуйте. Ведьмак не тянет в 60, доехал до белого сада и понеслись фризы с 60 до 35. Так вот залочил я на 30 кадров, моник кстати 144 герц на ноуте, поставил 30 герц через прогу и когда я просто бегаю, деревья и прочие объекты мерцают, поставил 60 герц и половинную частоту и то же самое. А на вашем видео все идеально ровно, хотелось бы чтобы у меня было также) Возможно это проблема низкого фпс, хотя фреймтайм идеально ровный, а может быть дело и правда в моем мониторе. Завтра попробую поиграть на телевизоре.
@Alexander-ju1gu
@Alexander-ju1gu 28 күн бұрын
Че-т я не понял, почему бы просто не залочить 30 fps, и обычный 60hz vsync будет убирать разрывы и заикания, т.к. каждое второе обновление изображения монитора будет натурально совпадать с каждым отрисованным кадром по времени. Зачем делать 30hz vsync?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 28 күн бұрын
@@Alexander-ju1gu ты не понимаешь как работает вертикальная синхронизация
@GreyDireWolf
@GreyDireWolf 3 ай бұрын
It looks good but unfortunately it has much more input lag than the console version, its not enjoyable
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 3 ай бұрын
Input lag can't be any lower with 30 fps vsync.
@keeganshaw4365
@keeganshaw4365 15 күн бұрын
The real way to make 30fps smooth is to use lossless scaling X3 mode
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 14 күн бұрын
@@keeganshaw4365 what is that?
@MrBill007
@MrBill007 6 ай бұрын
What to do for AMD gpu? Please help
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 6 ай бұрын
This guide is only for Nvidia owners. There surely must be a way to activate the same setting for amd. Search specifically for the amd half-refresh rate and other vsync options. It might be even easier for you since Nvidia hid those options for users.
@MrBill007
@MrBill007 6 ай бұрын
@@Vseslik okay, thanks mate
@sebastianzambrano1714
@sebastianzambrano1714 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrBill007did you find it?
@MrBill007
@MrBill007 3 ай бұрын
​@@sebastianzambrano1714 Yeah use RTSS, and set the scanline sync x2 to -30, it'll look smooth just like console, i did it with my rx 5600 xt
@Matti1761
@Matti1761 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean by x2?​@@MrBill007
@lukman_427
@lukman_427 Ай бұрын
the game looks blurry as hell, besides how did you cap your fps at 30 with vertical sync while got a 144hz monitor?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik Ай бұрын
My video is literally about how to make it.
@lukman_427
@lukman_427 Ай бұрын
@@Vseslik yeah but in the video you were using a 60 hz monitor
@Vseslik
@Vseslik Ай бұрын
@@lukman_427 it's a 144 hz monitor that I set up to 60 hz.
@user-pb9nl1dk2p
@user-pb9nl1dk2p Ай бұрын
Это видео записано в 60 фпс или может ютуб сделал 60? Или это реально настолько плавно?
@Vseslik
@Vseslik Ай бұрын
Видео в 30 кадров. Это видно на ютубе. Но на видео и правда все выглядит плавнее всегда.
@ApexDost
@ApexDost 4 ай бұрын
how to amd
@Vseslik
@Vseslik 4 ай бұрын
This guide is for Nvidia users. Search for more information on the internet to find how to enable same settings with amd software.
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