how to make 90s oldschool jungle / intelligent dnb

[@mil3sperhour]

hey guys really important message regarding the status of the jungle fatigue server. due to the massive influx of new users all server invites have been closed. This mainly has to do with the fact that many of the new users have derailed the integrity of the server and it now feels different to what it was. There has been an increase of non related topics such as breakcore, shitposting, and in general poor etiquette. please do not email sawteeth or ask questions regarding server invites as I feel terribly responsible for this and I dont want to affect the passionate community he has built. thanks for understanding.

[@meatlejuice]

This is pretty far down in the comments section, I think you should pin it

[@mil3sperhour]

@@meatlejuice oh thank you! I thought I pinned it already when I posted it lol

[@sunnyello8325]

i feel your pain nothing good last any more

[@alexmercer7083]

anyone know of any other good discords i can join related to ambient jungle?

[@mastermachetier5594]

Damn :( was looking for this

[@Pablo-yi9ox]

It's great to hear americans making jungle big up from manchester uk!

[@SoulofStatic]

Hopefully they won't ruin it

[@tbaproductions123]

Genres have to evolve somehow

[@kalabrez]

@@tbaproductions123 look how dubstep evolved lol

[@OGGalleryCrew92]

He would have shit himself if he had gone to say Konspiracy in the early 90's lol

[@thewormiesthotel]

It’s very interesting how Americans and that continent get fighting game vibes from jungle while English/Australian people think of mainly raves and the music itself. It’s interesting as that’s how most Americans probably were introduced to it

[@piqle]

yeah I'm American but im probably a minority as my parents were ravers back in the 90s and were heavily into jungle, dnb, and breaks so i grew up listening to jungle mixes on cassette tapes. i guess it's still all based in nostalgia for everyone though. also interesting to see this new generation of Americans really getting into it. my parents friends kept a small scene alive here but no one around my age were into it until a few years ago

[@bradylasserre9320]

Very very well done. From the small details such as "making the sample sound as if its running out of storage" by cutting the loop sooner than anticipated. Absolutely brilliant.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

I do that alot just makes the next transient hit harder as your ears temporarily rest.

[@ShrikeSounds]

all i can say is that your passion for this is obvious. incredibly impressive video, im always so stoked to see what you get yourself into

[@mil3sperhour]

colin man you are too awesome

[@an_isopod]

Best tutorial on this style i’ve seen. Putting things in mono is something new producers need to know about when trying to recreate any style of music from before last decade. On hardware mixers everything is mono before panning, making something stereo had to be a choice with the healthy effort of either doubling it or copying the signal and making it different somehow. Wish I had stuff like this to watch on youtube when I was a beginner producer.

[@kociemleko1]

Holy shit. Even though this is made on a modern DAW I can see the pattern scrolling down as though it were written on OctaMED...

[@aleksdizhe]

Yaaay this genre is getting more and more popular!

[@aleksdizhe]

@@vortexalerand9949 what

[@dvnmle]

dude what a well made video!!! this is quite comprehensive for someone just getting into this amazing genre!!! well done mate

[@jet_punch6872]

this demo tune rocks, and good coverage on the genre and it’s fundamentals. the sf3 gameplay overlay was a nice touch as well lolz

[@mil3sperhour]

also please forgive me for spamming heavy kick on gill he's a really annoying boss :/

[@stereokuuji]

1:29 Tails out here cooking

[@djyuppiebogan]

Great tutorial! Awesome to see my track on your video for a slight second too (4am breaks).

[@AstarProductions17]

TLDR: breakbeat loop and pads

[@prod.kidmizu]

And electronic keys

[@alfberger3150]

And some numbers in your chords

[@mkgeostar]

nooooo chop breaks

[@colemak5646]

and fat 808

[@nix1291]

and my wife leaving me because pisscore

[@G0OS]

ive been needing this. the youtube gods answered my prayers. gonna make a jungle ep now

[@AlexK-jp9nc]

these videos are interesting to me because i always thought genre was meant to come after the sound, but this video has the genre as a target to aim for. Just a different philosophy i never thought about

[@atetraxx]

big up man. respect everything you said here

[@SzymkowiAK47]

finally a tut about Inteligent DnB. I needed this one so much!

[@KRIMSUTRACKS]

as a jungle producer, totally agreed.

[@tomz6327]

Love the ramble about the genre and sound selection.

[@majordabalert]

Such a good vid I could cry. Thanks

[@Sethglover99]

Dude I’ve been trying to make jungle for like two weeks now but couldn’t get the right sound. Thank you so much, super detailed and helpful u saved my ass

[@dmytromorawski1955]

Thanks man, such a rich tutorial in only 26 min. Good job!

[@krz9000]

datafile is a goldmine :)

[@yungstigmatamanne]

Really great video but damn you literally listed my favorite sample cds i thought i could gatekeep XD xtc files of jungle and that jungle flavor ARE MY FAVS it was really trippy hearing them i thought they were pretty underground

[@jakemilkbassist]

great video mate really appreciate you sharing the knowledge this way!

[@antonioneves3288]

bro u big ok? so many good samplesss s/o from brazil!

[@IMSpangler]

Good stuff bro. Enjoyed your track on Jungle Fatigue Cru vol. 3

[@mxrgan_]

I personally feel like its okay to try and use a easy to access yet overused sample pack to learn. It might not be the best but everyone isn't always gonna make a great shot first try. As long as one doesn't use Jungle Jungle as a crutch for all of their future, "for real" songs and learn to make some cooler samples.

[@mil3sperhour]

I totally get what you mean, but the thing is jungle jungle isn't a great learning tool either, the samples vary in quality, no labeling of keys and tempos, and they come from already existing tracks. I guess it could help with arrangement but it provides very little inspiration for the actual production and design that goes into making a track.

[@mxrgan_]

@@mil3sperhour I understand that. I persoanlly really like the pads though, though not much else.

[@mil3sperhour]

@@mxrgan_ oh yeah for sure those pads are absolutely amazing but the more we use them the more we lose that magic yknow? if anything it encourages me to try to reverse engineer how they made them or do the effort of looking into other music to sample from! :]

[@mxrgan_]

@@mil3sperhour I completely get that. I just don't know synths (as a novice producer) and I don't seem to send that many pad packs out there so messing around with these could work for me for a while.

[@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u]

If you look at the modern scenes, this is already happening. Maybe not this exact kit, but the same thing like what happened to trap. Only in time my friend

[@dj_toy]

So glad that you mentioned how overused the jungle jungle sample pack is.

[@mil3sperhour]

I actually felt like I understated it 😭 I REALLY don't like what it's been doing to the image of jungle.

[@yuxanne.]

​@@mil3sperhourdouble edged sword bc it's actually a really great sample pack, but the problem is that it's so overused, but it's name is catchy and is free so, one of the go-to for newbie producers

[@mil3sperhour]

​@@yuxanne.i don't think it's a great sample pack at all by default because all the samples are ripped from other jungle tunes. while jungle was built on the idea of sampling, I believe it's quite different when the samples come from the same genre, as opposed to combining different sources to create something new. the sounds in the pack, of course, sound great, but that's only because they come from already great tracks that have been composed, arranged, mixed, and mastered to sound that way. when people treat it like a cymatics pack or a reddit drum kit and use it verbatim, it taints the original song's charm because it was already a jungle track to begin with.

[@yuxanne.]

@@mil3sperhour blu mar ten were already using it in that manner already tho, resampling songs from other jungle/dnb tracks was normalized back in the 90s bc lack of resources anyways, unlike today where there's an abundance of resources, if they did it, I don't see why someone today couldn't or shouldn't, so while I get what you mean, it doesn't make any real difference, and if you're really scared of using bare bones jungle jungle breaks, I suppose you could always reprocess the breaks a bit further since, it's not that hard to do, and as far as the pads in the pack go, that bit is a bit more obvious if you use them, personally I wouldn't use premade pads anyways, since I hate being limited to pitching like only 4 different positions on the scale, might as well just make ur own chords etc etc, and tbh I think the real problem is that the people using jungle jungle aren't as creative as they could be, or can't wrap their head around the arrangement style of the two genres, bc it's usually new producers who *just* got introduced to jungle n dnb that use it, and they're probably still figuring out what differentiates those apart from one another, and just end up making a hack job of a jungle track

[@yuxanne.]

In any case, I don't personally use it, say for maybe the future proof amen, I just make breaks from the rhythm lab soul n funk rips

[@lil_ch14ki90]

second impact... you are truly cultured

[@lumpismyoldusername]

we need more videos like this on youtube tbh

[@OGGalleryCrew92]

Its a "look at my track" video dont show how to do anything do's he wow he's use Zero G data files !

[@orpheuscreativeco9236]

Damn, that was a GREAT tutorial 👏 Thanks for this! 🙌🎶

[@cbazz8577]

bro how are you genuinely so good at this wtf

[@mil3sperhour]

thank you! it's just a matter of doing lots of research and analysis of the stuff you like. I've been producing dubstep for like 6 years and the sound design knowledge has helped a lot with getting the sound palette right.

[@NIVEZU]

been in an artist block for awhile, but i bought your sample pack, i love the song dude. -nivez

[@prodbyhomealone]

excellent video. keep these videos up and u will have 20k subs by the end of the year i swear. great thumbnails too lol

[@michaelheath1194]

This was excellent! Please make more videos like this!

[@jow2059]

awesome video holy moly

[@novaklem]

your'e a GOAT! THANK YOU

[@jakayboy]

A lot of British electronic festivals have sooo much jungle

[@ninotoka]

man thank you for spilling the saus

[@twinimi4486]

YESSSS ive been waiting for this one

[@pastorr6989]

i need this beat man, third strike is one of my favorite games

[@pest5373]

''this is the powerpuff girls intro one'' jungle never disappoints

[@oscarperalta666]

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. Thank you.

[@brekreney5734]

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@lqpf]

thank u for the plug fr

[@tattllznl7759]

Amen break is the wilhelm scream of drums

[@LOSTVAGABOND_]

really great video, thanks for this information!

[@juliana.2120]

nailed it

[@amg4455]

Thank you for nice tutorial.

[@lunanescence]

great video as always!

[@fabianrr]

Thanks .

[@Pablo-yi9ox]

🔥 subbed

[@quixria]

sick vid bro

[@Basedboomerchadbear]

Instant sub.

[@futureg1rl]

10/10 keep it up

[@infurcht]

thanks mate

[@rorybmusic]

Jungle Jungle is king tho ;)

[@jaylazar]

Thank you 🔥

[@yung___lx]

Ty bro!

[@lostwavy]

Great tutorial man ❤

[@thegrate1521]

jungle is the only genre i can make with any proficiency

[@donnylee9897]

Has anyone ever had trouble loading tracks with amen breaks to tunecore, distrokid, etc. . Will I get copyright issues when adding to my own tracks on distribution sites?

[@TheHansen01]

Great video!

[@easydayez]

Very cool ♥

[@maxschraven]

POV installing ableton fully legally

[@potbreakeer154]

Street Fighter 3s music whoops Street Fighter 6s music any day

[@mil3sperhour]

man it was the perfect chance to bring back this kind of music but oh well

[@erwinm187]

thanks for this tutorial! what ableton theme are you using?

[@mil3sperhour]

i'm using this one called massive x! www.livethemes.co/themes/massive-x/64

[@erwinm187]

@@mil3sperhour much appreciated!

[@gigfy8565]

Do you think you could show the process of making and processing your pads? They are dope and exactly what ive been trying to find/make!

[@aristonmain]

Can you make a video on how to arrange DnB/Jungle music, I'm having a hard time arranging these types of music because It's quite repetitive to say the least.

[@kidsonicofficial]

The Jungle Jungle pack does actually come with a readme that states that it is NOT copyright free and use the samples only for personal use or placeholders. So you're right to steer people away from using it.

[@yplbeats7971]

Jesus man

[@lostlukex]

do you have a favourite preset on Tal-dac that you always use on majority of the sounds or you tweak the parameters for every sound?

[@mil3sperhour]

usually, i start with the s1000 preset and then adjust the downsampling settings!

[@reacher8737]

what genre was in the background at the start of ur video? Sounds like something from sonic

[@mil3sperhour]

the first track is from sega rally championship which is mostly jazz fusion stuff and its absolutely amazing. 2nd one is from chaindive which is an obscure ps2 title with some great house stuff.

[@hyena0815]

damn, this is spot on. fantastic work! 🤍

[@amerism4530]

yo mate any chance you could link me to the vocal bytes folders you have in the samplee ccds section?

[@GuruGowtham-ut7kp]

Keygen type beat

[@saltytech5546]

NEO Turf Masters OST.

[@isabelreyes6597]

👍👏🏻

[@saniespinosa8323]

anyone have the link to the jungle fatigue server :(

[@imsryy1173]

w

[@xankenlock2889]

How to you take a CD sample into Abelton ?

[@Willis_Wood]

Nice vid

[@Cyberboy2077]

🔥 video Can you send a link to the Discord?

[@yuxanne.]

Blue martin, damn, bro did em dirty

[@mil3sperhour]

they're actually pretty good producers! but the amount of oversaturation and genericness the pack has caused needs to be stated lol

[@yuxanne.]

@@mil3sperhour ik, but I was just poking fun at how you pronounced blu mar ten lol, I don't think I've heard it said as martin

[@mil3sperhour]

@@yuxanne. oh LMAO i guess i just slurred it together

[@abyeuxtech]

Anyone know where I can find those ueberschall samples for free?

[@LawrenceAaronLuther]

instead of detuning individual elements, you could just adjust the project tempo a bit faster, then slow down the exported song slightly.

[@mil3sperhour]

I used to do that but the issue is that the bpm then becomes fractional, plus it allows me to listen to the track properly without waiting to repitch the master.

[@seraphes]

Why aren't you just putting the tal DAC on a group bus, send or master?

[@mil3sperhour]

because if I do then the dither and noise will be consistent throughout the whole track and it would sound like the track itself is being downsampled and not the instruments themselves which differ in loudness and sample quality. i think it sounds a lot more authentic that way.

[@addybtd]

whats the song playing in the backround of the intro?

[@mil3sperhour]

I put all the music in the description but that track is called "reckless running" from sega rally championship! (specifically the arcade version)

[@addybtd]

@@mil3sperhour thanks, i guess i didnt see it lol

[@xzist]

Where dat discord link at dawg?

[@clutchdidthat]

can you slide the discord link to jungle fatigue i dont see it anywhere

[@taysan101]

Where can I find Jungle Frenzy??

[@taysan101]

And where is this discord??

[@kittavares4334]

Not that I will ever show my jungle trax to anyone, but why would that blu mar ten pack be more cringe than jungle warfare or the other stuff you recommend? Isn't it all processed classic breaks anyway? (I'm a noob, that's an actual question). Good stuff btw

[@mil3sperhour]

it’s more so that the samples sourced on the blu mar ten pack are very processed (due to being ripped straight from songs) that it not only makes it very identifiable but also doesn’t leave much room for the producer to experiment with. this is mostly a common issue with amateur producers which is understandable but I hope to help others skip that stage so they are more encouraged to be creative as opposed to to repeating the same few samples everyone’s heard.

[@420mustard]

📯📯📯🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷🎶🎶🎶✨✨

[@r250salvemosucrania3]

1:23 ¿song name?

[@mil3sperhour]

never really gave it a name lol it was just made for the tutorial

[@helion6260]

whats the intro song ?

[@mil3sperhour]

it's in the description! (sega rally championship arcade - reckless running)

[@elliottwhite417]

Not intelligent dnb but atmospheric jungle yes

[@lucag.lisickza425]

which daw are you using

[@WAV-ob7sn]

Ableton

[@cbazz8577]

please drop this song