How to Make a Commander Deck | Magic Arcanum

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@MrPimpifyer
@MrPimpifyer 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Gomez story time is the sole reason I subbed
@ZydrateZaro
@ZydrateZaro 5 жыл бұрын
Combonation same
@Morghast
@Morghast 5 жыл бұрын
Thirdsies on that. Ive been watching tons of old vids too but he is much more engaging. Shout out to all the Lore guys tho, this is a Group Effort.
@Ronin_XS
@Ronin_XS 5 жыл бұрын
Same dude! Same 😆
@maixaule
@maixaule 5 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@YourCrazyOverlord
@YourCrazyOverlord 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan is all I'm ever here for. Bless his bald little head
@christophercyr1460
@christophercyr1460 5 жыл бұрын
Flbthp and 99 islands is op. Super consistent draws, really reliable deck, very cheap too!
@Skywarp2099
@Skywarp2099 5 жыл бұрын
For people wanting something more "formulaic" when creating their deck, an easy way to approach deck building and assist with breaking the deck down into smaller chunks is to follow these flexible guidelines. ~ 37 lands ~ 10 forms of flexible removal (this includes board wipes try to find 2 , 3, or 4) 1 piece of graveyard hate ~ 10 or more forms of card drawing (focus on cards that have continuous or repeatable effects) 10 - 15 forms of Ramp: this can be a mix of mana rocks, enchantments, and Cultivate effects. Dedicate the remainder to your strategy. I want to point out that sometimes the cards for your strategy may overlap with fulfilling the needs of the above guidelines. If this happens, GREAT! Take advantage of every opportunity you can to maximize the efficiency of your card slots. You only have 99 in your deck to work with, each of them must serve a very valuable purpose. I hope this helps anyone looking to improve or start, or perhaps serve as a method to breakdown the daunting task of creating a new deck. :) Best Regards
@Zodairk
@Zodairk 5 жыл бұрын
For casual play I use what I call 40 30 30 40% lands 30% good cards, ramp card draw etc normally comes from here 30% theme this is for making your theme work It's a nice template but that's all it is
@jgtogi6839
@jgtogi6839 5 жыл бұрын
You only need 10 card drawing cards if 10-15 useless ramp cards. This would work in a blue/green deck but that isn't most decks. Ramping mana is only viable early game so having 15 cards of ramp means you are drawing more dead cards late game. You also run into the fact that draw is usually a blue mechanic and ramp is usually a green mechanic. Maybe if you replaced card drawing and ramp with mechanics in other colors like say providing 10-15 burn/mass burn (red mechanic) and 10 discard (black mechanic) it could work.
@Skywarp2099
@Skywarp2099 5 жыл бұрын
@@jgtogi6839 This is a "framework." I did mention that these were guidelines and not hard "rules" for deck building. You might also notice the tilde symbol next to my numbers. That is shorthand for "approximately," meaning an approximation close to but not necessarily equal to the value. People can deviate from those values based upon experimentation. I cannot take credit for these guidelines, however, but I DO use them and I DO share them when I consult with newer players to EDH because it serves as a starting point. Tomer from MTGGoldfish was the person who came up with these figures, and he's not a terrible deck builder. I don't always agree with his choices, but his guidelines are a solid STARTING POINT. I wasn't TELLING people how to make a cEDH deck, either. Something I think you misunderstood. I was laying out a foundation, a way to tackle a large, sometimes overwhelming, problem and place it into more manageable pieces. You may or may not be correct, but the argument you're making is entirely circumstantial and largely irrelevant, when placed in context. My advice wasn't for individuals such as yourself because you're past the point where you need the assistance. Let others find this information useful, and let it go.
@kk_33
@kk_33 5 жыл бұрын
jg togi Assuming you’re not playing ultra competitive EDH, which aims to combo off by turn 3 or 4, Ramp is the most important aspect of EDH. With multiple players, 40 life totals and higher chance of board wipes, EDH games tend to go long, which means regardless of the colours you’re running, you need to be able to keep up when turn 7-10 come around. Green and blue may be the BEST options for ramp and draw respectively, each colour in the colour pie has its options for each. And artifacts and other colourless cards exist to make up for what some colours lack. Mana Rocks for example are extremely common in almost all EDH decks, as they are valuable ramp tools that fit in almost any strategy. My baseline for any EDH deck is 10 ramp, 10 card draw, 6-7 single target removal and 3-4 board wipes. Keep in mind this doesn’t mean you need exactly this number of individual cards to fill these roles, cards can overlap. For example, a card like Treasure Map May fill multiple roles. Early game it only helps fix the top of the deck, but in time it can add an extra land be two treasure tokens which act as ramp. The land also can sac the tokens to draw so it adds value as a card draw engine as well, especially in certain decks which have other means of creating tokens. I run a Mardu deck with Smothering Tithe, Pitiless Plunderer, Captain Lannery Storm, and revel in riches, all of which ramp make Treasure map a card draw engine, and this deck runs neither Green or Blue.
@Narabedla4
@Narabedla4 5 жыл бұрын
@@jgtogi6839 no. *every* deck needs ramp. I don't care what color you run, you should run sol ring and the color signets (or the color reducers in mono color, or the pain signets) at the *very* least If you don't have any ramp, your deck is just waaaay too slow. Also, card draw should be renamed to card advantage and yes basically every deck needs that as well, since you don't wanna sit there topdecking while your opponents play 2-3 spells a turn with a card draw engine. Card drawing and Ramping are not color restrictive. Oh boy, yeah let's run lavaspike in EDH because we are red, oh no wait, that would be terrible. Same for targetted discard in black. (like thoughtseize) If you sit there playing Boros and don't play ramp or card draw, because well, you are boros, then you are just playing a bad deck.
@Cyberium
@Cyberium 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I love about commander is how each deck represents a person’s psyche/personality, how s/he wants to express oneself. Even if a person builds a deck for combo win, that speaks for oneself.
@Morghast
@Morghast 5 жыл бұрын
This is why MtG is the fuckin best. its meta af
@d.robinson6262
@d.robinson6262 5 жыл бұрын
I have a lil story of how I got into MTG last November against my will. A year of enjoying it later I'm polishing my golgari deck with Gorgons and slivers. Next I want a colorless deck, and probably Orzhov/angels/demons after that.
@Darksky1001able
@Darksky1001able 4 жыл бұрын
My main one is an Esper control deck. Sen triplets is my commander and the deck works around stealing others spells or denying resources.
@elementaldemon4624
@elementaldemon4624 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty new to magic and my friends got me into commander. Picked up a cheap prebuilt called sneak attack. The commander makes my oponents mill cards from damage from rogues and other cards take advantage of the resulting graveyards to harass them even more. I love it
@planpunnarit
@planpunnarit 5 жыл бұрын
14:30 1. Find a 5 color commander 2. Ask players for all cards they hate 3. Put all cards from no.2 into a deck 4. let’s destroy friendship.
@supremeverdict359
@supremeverdict359 5 жыл бұрын
Plan Punnarit Eldrazi Annilators + Extra Turn 😈
@felixseifert1733
@felixseifert1733 5 жыл бұрын
actually, this is how a friend of mine built one of his decks, he picked child of alara as his commander, took all his planeswalkers and big fat creatures throw them on a pile and that shit worked and kicked our asses, and he played his commander like once in 200 games...
@brittanynguyen3794
@brittanynguyen3794 4 жыл бұрын
So who here hated consuming aberration?
@cossakrose
@cossakrose 5 жыл бұрын
False: Commander is NOT 100 cards. *It's Sol Ring,* and 99 other cards.
@calebbilling4984
@calebbilling4984 5 жыл бұрын
Anybody who cannot into Sol Ring cannot call themselves a Commander Player. It's the community's most basic right of passage.
@captaincroissandwich6950
@captaincroissandwich6950 5 жыл бұрын
Sol Ring is the true commander of Commander decks. They're just super low-key about it.
@derrickwarner1
@derrickwarner1 5 жыл бұрын
Correction: Sol Ring, Vedalken Orrey, and 98 other cards
@captaincroissandwich6950
@captaincroissandwich6950 5 жыл бұрын
@@derrickwarner1 Vedalken Orrery is sub-optimal if you're blue, because of Leyline of Anticipation, otherwise sure. :V
@mjspartansrule
@mjspartansrule 5 жыл бұрын
Not wrong
@Jordan-nm3qu
@Jordan-nm3qu 5 жыл бұрын
Also! For anyone who wants other resources for edh check out command zone, jumbocommander, tolarian community college, and command quarters for great deck tech, strategies and insite on commander!
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Ryan Gomez and I approve this message.
@Jordan-nm3qu
@Jordan-nm3qu 5 жыл бұрын
@@tcgplayercom thank you! And thank you for approving my message even with my horrible spelling of insight haha
@LeonSpires
@LeonSpires 5 жыл бұрын
And if you're a filthy degenerate cEDH player like me check out the laboratory maniacs.
@ezekielbenavides2740
@ezekielbenavides2740 5 жыл бұрын
Having a 99 card deck always seems like you have almost no idea what to actually select at first . It's always so surprising how intimate and important each card in the deck becomes after you've played with it a lot and tuned it.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, I periodically hold each card in my deck and ask myself if it sparks joy. It's a surprisingly good bellwether for if it's helping my strategy like it's supposed to. Sadly, Obsidian Fireheart has failed that test again, despite it being one of my all time favorite designs.
@BIOTREX
@BIOTREX 5 жыл бұрын
"Geared towards a casual play" suffered trauma by some dude that did infinite damage on 4th turn
@MrEliakimRAS
@MrEliakimRAS 5 жыл бұрын
"Casual" is a way broad word. The guy that goes infinite on 3rd turn and the guy that despises any sort of board interaction before 3 hours of game both believe their decks are casual.
@deathwarriorseve
@deathwarriorseve 5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes... the dreaded thirth turn
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrEliakimRAS I dont think anyone that does an infinite combo in turn 3 thinks his deck is casual and if he does, he is obviously wrong
@Morghast
@Morghast 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrEliakimRAS exactly. and they can be
@MrEliakimRAS
@MrEliakimRAS 5 жыл бұрын
@@cacs2201 "Casual" for some means "I am not playing tournaments with it", independently of its power level. "Casual" for others means "I am not even trying to win with it". "Casual", "75%", "competitive", "spirit of EDH" and "unfun card/strategy" varies too much from table to table.
@tiffanywhitney9501
@tiffanywhitney9501 4 жыл бұрын
"There's nothing that scares me more than an Oversized Fireproof Arachnid" I love that line
@Blakewyattdunfee
@Blakewyattdunfee 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I go with a deck theme, for example a cat deck with cats like lions, tigers, leopards and so on or a deck with demons and devils or a deck with red western fire dragons, or a deck with elves, or a deck with merfolk, or a deck with angels, or a deck with dinosaurs, or a deck with whatever I'm in the mood for.
@aethertech
@aethertech 5 жыл бұрын
How to play commander: Pick a commander with green in it's color identity. Add ramp. Add ETB creatures/maybe some LTB too. Add card advantage. Add a few disruption pieces. profit. Alternate method: Battlecruiser.edh
@heetsoak1565
@heetsoak1565 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@3veret841
@3veret841 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Sultai good stuff
@hirosmirnov8287
@hirosmirnov8287 5 жыл бұрын
2:34 Literally thought he meant Bolas, lol
@uberkewl3003
@uberkewl3003 5 жыл бұрын
Kirill TheDragon lol same
@jack-4302
@jack-4302 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@bluecorvidart
@bluecorvidart 5 жыл бұрын
The 9x7 thing reminds me of a blog I saw that used an 8x8 method to sketch up commander decks! I find methods like that really helpful. I've got a huge collection of cards and the amount of options can be kind of overwhelming. I'm really glad you have a video for regular decks, too!
@TheOtherAngle
@TheOtherAngle 5 жыл бұрын
All the kids that come to the card game club I run at school each year all learn to play Commander. This video is great!
@matthewcolter
@matthewcolter 5 жыл бұрын
Spider Spawning or Arachnogenesis would be two great ways to make a bunch of spiders, which combos well with Ishkanah's activated ability. Plus, Arachnogenesis gives you a pseudo-fog ability. Just a thought.
@derekwalter4238
@derekwalter4238 5 жыл бұрын
When I'm building a new deck, I usually start with a template of 38 lands, 20 card draw & mana ramp, 10 to 15 removal / counter / interaction cards, and the rest is the on theme good stuff cards.
@meatpuddle90
@meatpuddle90 5 жыл бұрын
I've been considering for a few years now to play commander. This video helped me a lot. Thank you 😁 for those who are wondering I've been thinking of building a deck around either omnath locus of rage or krenko mob boss.
@zaca3256
@zaca3256 5 жыл бұрын
I just recently built a Captain Sisay deck. Lots of fun. It gets nuts when I get Paradox Engine out. I particularly enjoy tutoring for all the peices of Kaldra and forming the "megazord".
@billable1861
@billable1861 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that paradox engine though
@zaca3256
@zaca3256 5 жыл бұрын
@@billable1861 I'm actually super chuffed about it.
@miaschwartz1074
@miaschwartz1074 5 жыл бұрын
This comment aged beautifully
@voxkine9385
@voxkine9385 5 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see a new person’s deck they came up with and watch someone like you take it apart and “fix” it while providing reasoning. I, personally, have a decent understanding of deckbuilding for commander, but it would be cool to see the actual process from the views of a new player and an experienced player.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 5 жыл бұрын
I ended up making a Palladia-Mors, The Ruiner EDH deck after watching this rather entertaining video way too many times, Mr. Gomez enthusiasm reminds me of the old joy of playing tabletop Magic.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 5 жыл бұрын
My typical process for building a new commander deck goes like this: (for example) 1. Open a cool legendary in a pack. Preferably one with a triggered ability. (Grand Warlord Radha) 2. Love it and dream of cards that synergize with it. (token makers, expendable creatures, mana sinks) 3. Decide to build a deck. 4. Find cool cards in my binder, then look online for fairly cheap cards that will let me push the synergies to 11. (Broodhatch Nantuko, Moonveil Dragon, etc) 5. S Y N E R G Y ! ! ! 6. Fill the rest of the list with interaction, protection, mana ramp/fixing, redundant effects in case someone hates my commander, and backup plans in case someone hates my strategy. 7. Balance the mana and playtest!
@MarvelOfRain
@MarvelOfRain 5 жыл бұрын
You forgat about the most painful steps: 1) step 6.5 - realize that you went overboard with ideas in step 5, the deck has 150 cards and you need to cut half nonlands. 2) step 6.51 - realize that all the cards you cut were interaction, protection and mana fixing and now you have no way of actually getting to all the sweet synergies - so you try to add as little of them as possible in order to make the deck work.
@Mr.Squiid111
@Mr.Squiid111 3 жыл бұрын
No
@kingdedede1715
@kingdedede1715 5 жыл бұрын
I'm making an artifact deck dealing with blue and green, and inside it it'll be able to do a lot of abilities depending on the first draw
@WillfulVisions
@WillfulVisions 5 жыл бұрын
How is the card "Eaten by Spiders" not in this deck?!?!? I know it's not a very good card, but c'mon - THAT FLAVOR
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) I think that one wound up in there eventually but Nicole and I missed it on our first round of ideas. Good catch!
@BrodyRing
@BrodyRing 5 жыл бұрын
"How do you build a Commander deck?" I honestly just slap 99 cards together and pray it works.
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) I'll cross my fingers for you.
@BrodyRing
@BrodyRing 5 жыл бұрын
@@tcgplayercom Thank you, Ryan. Having your blessing should bring good luck.
@NotAnEvilMastermind
@NotAnEvilMastermind 5 жыл бұрын
I love this! When it comes to commander, the deckbuilding just opens up so many possibilities for personalisation, and unless everyone at the table is playing a preconstructed deck or got a list of the internet, no two decks are ever the same, which i love seeing. One of my personal decks i play is a Niv-Mizzet, Parun deck - but every card in it has to be flavourfully justified. So I'm really glad that i recently got access to extra mana ramp with Firemind Vessel and the upcoming Talisman of Creativity (There's a Ral Zarek quote on it. It counts.) because with access to only the Ravnica-based nonbasic lands, the mana has been.... well.... questionable.
@RikuofManyPaths
@RikuofManyPaths 5 жыл бұрын
I used to try to build the deck around the commander, and that worked great. Then I tried something different: I picked one or two mechanics you rarely ever see used, and build a deck around them, picking the commander after that. I have one deck called Living Plane that never wins. It is more of an environmental hazard to the other players. Helped by Cromat and using the Retrace mechanic and Life From the Loam, it just uses the lands as copies of the key spells, and will occasionally last long enough to end one opponent with either a mass of maggots or commander damage from Cromat itself.
@MarioGonzalez-yx3fq
@MarioGonzalez-yx3fq 5 жыл бұрын
By far one of my favorite commanders. Such good tribal synergy.
@Blakewyattdunfee
@Blakewyattdunfee 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why spiders have the reach ability? The only 2 reason I can guess is their long legs and their web traps.
@KennyViTran
@KennyViTran 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously best way to make a commander go to scryfall and edhrec look at all the cards and put 100+ in then slowly and sadly remove till you have 100 😭😂 been waiting for this ep for a long time and happy with it keep making great content :))
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) It's like starting with a block of marble and chipping away until you find the statue hidden within, right?
@KennyViTran
@KennyViTran 5 жыл бұрын
@@tcgplayercom Yeah Ryan... that's totally what it is. Not just shamble but a marble statue... of something 😂
@dbfbody
@dbfbody 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. I still haven't made my own deck (I usually just check out ones others make or pre-cons and do modifications). Commander is such a fun format, and taking a night here and there to go to your local game store and make some new friends, play some Commander is just the best thing.
@swordoflorn
@swordoflorn 5 жыл бұрын
Easy. Four pillars of a good deck: 1. Card draw 2. Mana ramp 3. Mana curve 4. Win con Tips: put in about 35 lands with ramp spells/artifacts and play mainly 1-4 cmc spells with a few game winning bombs.
@sonkal-elkent6143
@sonkal-elkent6143 5 жыл бұрын
FINALLY a guide that makes sense for me. I've always struggled with building commander. I LOVE Magic Arcanum!
@aliceshiki8069
@aliceshiki8069 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting introductory video, I came here because I was like... "How can somebody possibly try to make a good Ishkanah deck? I tried before, it's impossible." Then I came here to watch and saw that you were more geared towards people new to the format and... I think you did a pretty good job at showcasing the format and giving good guidelines on how to make a functional deck~ I don't think this video is very helpful for people that have already been playing the format for a while, but that doesn't seem to have been your intent, so that's not a problem. Really nice video anyways, I came here to watch it while being completely skeptical and had a really nice surprise by seeing the content~
@The_Sharktocrab
@The_Sharktocrab 5 жыл бұрын
I cant get enough of this content it's way too good for youtube
@phyrexiahive9440
@phyrexiahive9440 5 жыл бұрын
I build my deck based on the effect of the deck/commander. Like Omnath Locust of Mana. Food Chain and Eternal Scourge boost that little guy to a big. I add other things like token makers, Avenger of Zendikar, Doubling Season and so on. But my Pride and Joy Tier 1 EDH beater is Skittles. Infect is one mechanic all the Opponents do not enjoy to witness especially when you have a flyer to boot. When you're building also think about Tutors and your Land Cycle. How many lands do you want? Do you want specialty lands, dual lands, shock lands and ext. Sometimes you can have mutliple cards in EDH if its in the text box. Not all EDH decks follow the only 1 card rule.
@grimmofsparta5022
@grimmofsparta5022 5 жыл бұрын
The one expection to the color identity is extort, because the black/white case is in the reminder text. It's a fun loophole, that doesn't really make a huge difference
@Cylon963
@Cylon963 5 жыл бұрын
Building your first commander deck is best with a friend that’s already in commander. They can probably give you there bulk rare’s, help you find a commander that you might like it or loan you a few of their commander decks. Or you can Buy commander deck at your local lgs or online and start from there but it’s good to know the basics of commander.
@amithyedavalli7491
@amithyedavalli7491 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm here Ryan Gomez!
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) Me too!
@UnNormzEden
@UnNormzEden 5 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize that in the war of the spark Nicol Bolas is basically playing an EDH deck with Liliana as his general.
@bbsheps8612
@bbsheps8612 5 жыл бұрын
When I build decks, I just find a commander I like, them download the cheapest deck around them from edhrec(as a template), and I just swap in some cards that I actually want to play
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the stingy AND lazy methods combined!
@bbsheps8612
@bbsheps8612 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Sparkes admittedly, as a newcomer it is lazy of me when I could actually learn to build good decks
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 5 жыл бұрын
@@bbsheps8612 Oh it's fine really! I was just messing around. The only way to get better at deckbuilding is to see other decks in play anyway, and even better, to play with them yourselr - no-one can build any good deck without some inspiration! Plus some of the most fun decks (at least on a non-competitive level) can be pretty cheap: Arcades Walls springs to mind! It's just at my LGS we tend to jokingly refer to pre-designed decks as 'lazy' and the cheap ones as 'stingy'...and it's hilarious and inspiring when they actually win, to get us brewers on our toes more!
@bbsheps8612
@bbsheps8612 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Sparkes Arcades is my only commander deck so far 😂
@off-meta9962
@off-meta9962 5 жыл бұрын
EDH rec is helpful, but it only covers so much. I've built my best and absurdest decks ( Marchesa the Black rose and Marsil the Pretender) mostly without edh Rec and im so happy WotC now created Blightling for my Marsil deck
@Eldofarmboy
@Eldofarmboy 4 жыл бұрын
I have two commander decks. One is a red, white, blue, and black deck built mainly to be a sadistic mofo playing with its food by milling, exiling, pinging, making you discard, and making you sacrifice all while gaining a little bit of life. If you don't scoop out of frustration I'll bring in some big creatures and deliver the killing blow after having toyed with you and exhausted most of your removal/counters. The second deck I just ordered last week. It uses Kaalia Of The Vast as the commander and it centers around ramping up and using angels to gain life and indestructibility, demons to destroy and make you sacrifice, and then along come the dragons to bash your face in. It also runs a few board wipes so I can blow everything off of my opponent's field if needed before swinging in for the kill with a mass of huge indestructible creatures
@MultrakSin
@MultrakSin 3 жыл бұрын
My approach is very formulaic at first but my decks are never really final, I find things that can be changed over time and synergies that can be stronger too by adding cards while removing weaker ones. My tip is always consider curve for ramp and land count and the rest shall follow if you keep minding your curve as well! As for big splashy spells decks, I don't play those often but when I do I include a lot of ramp and draw (big ones, as Rishkar's Expertise) and gradual draw for low to the ground commanders, I like doing decks for partners as some commanders are draw engine themselves and let the whole deck shine rather than be the sole celebrity of the deck! That's my take on it at least! :)
@joshprice4855
@joshprice4855 5 жыл бұрын
I'm actually building a Keranos spell slinger commander deck that utilizes a bunch of red/blue spells that either do multiple effects or do unexpected things like redirect targeted abilities. Because I think the best feeling in magic is when you do something and everyone at the table looks at what you just did with a mix of confusion and mild amusement
@vincevigil8933
@vincevigil8933 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video my friend keeps it coming. Nice new face hair too by the way lol
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 5 жыл бұрын
I love the ideas for that Ishkanah list! And honestly, I build my decks very similarly to the way you just did, but I choose legendary creatures to build around based on their abilities that I haven't played with yet and sometimes I just look through my collection to see if there are any off the wall legends that I could build with. It's a lot of fun, and especially if you've got the extra resources for multiple decks, but the best part about EDH is that as long as you're with a good pod the resources don't matter. People often let others borrow cards or decks to play with, and there is always room for trading to bump up your power level. Lately I've been goofing off more and competing less because my cEDH list is really good, but most games you will never need to compete that way. Building with collection scraps is a very fun way to get started and budget the list, so I appreciate that structure and organizational method.
@moonlightdawn7249
@moonlightdawn7249 7 ай бұрын
Can timberpack wolf due to its ability be more than 1 copy?
@sharlockshacolmes9381
@sharlockshacolmes9381 5 жыл бұрын
"I want a sliver commander deck" so step 1 become rich... seem simple enough. Edit: everyone seems to be focused on the "sliver" part but you seem to forget that for a sliver deck to function you need a lot of non sliver key-cards that are expensive on top of a 5 color mana base that is pretty expensive.
@architectofdreams73
@architectofdreams73 5 жыл бұрын
sure, If you want it to be competitive. There are cheap slivers out there. Maybe not as a commander though, that might cost some pennies. But the rest you don't HAVE to get all the expensive ones.
@joeyhamilton6854
@joeyhamilton6854 5 жыл бұрын
You can proxy the commander then just use cheap slivers to play
@NumberFreak2000
@NumberFreak2000 5 жыл бұрын
How about a sliver deck that doesn't use a sliver commander?
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 жыл бұрын
@@architectofdreams73 the commanders themselves are the most expensive, the slivers are not. Sliver Queen and Sliver legion are around 100-120 $, Sliver Hivelord is about 40, Overlord is 30 $ and the new one "The first sliver" is currently going for 38 $. These prices are of course Card Kingdom prices, they might be different on TCG player.
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 5 жыл бұрын
@@NumberFreak2000 you can use the new changeling one... "Morophon the boundless" if you like, that works.
@biggsg1934
@biggsg1934 5 жыл бұрын
First time watching your channel, subbed right after watching the video. When I pull an interesting legendary creature from my packs, I almost immediately start thinking about how I'd build a fun commander deck around them. I'll usually start budget, spending $25 to $50 while using placeholders, and if I enjoy it enough, then I'll work on upgrading it. I did feel like the rule of 9 was a bit excessive, as I generally like my decks to focus on doing one or two things extremely well, with a few ways to deal with my opponents' stuff without losing the focus of the deck. For example, my Emmara, Soul of the Accord deck focuses on token generation with a life gain subtheme. I do run ramp, draw & targeted removal, but only one Wrath of God, which is in there as an "Oh crap!" button. Also, in every deck I build, I make sure I have one non-combat related win con, so I can get around fog effects and the like.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I do. Can we be friends?
@moonlightdawn7249
@moonlightdawn7249 Жыл бұрын
Would kessig recluse be a good addition to the deck?
@royalblizzardgaming4355
@royalblizzardgaming4355 5 жыл бұрын
My first commander deck is in the mail. I got some money for Christmas, so I build and ordered a 50$ Yarok the Desecrated commander deck. Unfortunately, I can’t get ahold of a Craterhoof Behemoth, but I think End-Raze forerunners will work just fine
@TCG9777
@TCG9777 5 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaas I needed this. Trying to build one of my favorite commanders: Slimefoot and could use some advice so I make sure I don't screw up too much lolz
@PhyxiusGaming
@PhyxiusGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Commander and story time. You have to lve Ryan and his team!
@matthewmccreight9854
@matthewmccreight9854 5 жыл бұрын
I like to build around tribes or theme the deck around card types or a specific linear goal that the whole deck works toward achieving... Very often I'm the threat at the table, and I still manage to win a fair amount of the time... Even if I dont win, the deck does whatever its thing is... Which i think is impressive enough...
@marcussnoerr7061
@marcussnoerr7061 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! You did one more. Now i only hope this becomes a regular series :D
@LedPESRule
@LedPESRule 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as usual, hopefully this will bring even more people to this awesome format. Btw, what's up with that insane 'stache? Was that thing always there? xD
@ConMan-bx1rk
@ConMan-bx1rk 5 жыл бұрын
I have a friend trying to get into commander, and this video will be perfect for them! Thank you!
@wasabiwaffle
@wasabiwaffle 5 жыл бұрын
Send them some Commanders Quarters videos! Mitch's channel is great for cheap commander decks
@Vesdus
@Vesdus 5 жыл бұрын
I also have a foil Ishkanah stashed away for EDH
@SingingInferno
@SingingInferno 5 жыл бұрын
"To unwind from judging tournaments all day" Proof that EDH is a casual format by heart.
@noxenordo8276
@noxenordo8276 5 жыл бұрын
See I like what your saying, but I tend to build my decks with two win cons and an alt con to help me survive to that point, and then put in multiple ways to get one of those two win cons off, like with azami, I run pick up your library as the main win con, infinite turns as the secondary, and counter spells as the support
@diegom6217
@diegom6217 5 жыл бұрын
Since a nyx weaver is an enchantment creature, I guess you could say: A nyx in the field is worth two in the grave.
@antoine_as
@antoine_as 5 жыл бұрын
This helps me so much for this format totally new for me ! Thank you a lot.
@Jaesnek
@Jaesnek 5 жыл бұрын
My process for deckbuilding is pretty much just find a strategy I want to play, or a combo I want to win with and then find the best way I can do that. I'll usually hunt down a commander after I find my strategy.
@Grimpo96
@Grimpo96 5 жыл бұрын
I typically look at my commanders abilities and go through them one at a time. Erebos, as an example, prevents my opponents from gaining life, needs devotion, can pay life and mana to draw a card, and it’s a 5/7 indestructible creature. I would then add synergize cards to the deck that would work with each bit, like how Alhammarret’s Archive would work with the draw ability and the preventing my opponents from gaining life. Just because THEY can’t gain life, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t.
@jacobcain9008
@jacobcain9008 5 жыл бұрын
Why use permanant removal when you have player removal?
@supersam5802
@supersam5802 5 жыл бұрын
Also probably the most inportant place to look as you put together your deck is edhrec
@jasonmolenaar119
@jasonmolenaar119 5 жыл бұрын
Pick commander: Yargle Pick cards: Equipment Other cards: Mana doubles and Mana Rocks Lands: 34 snow swamp *release the frog*
@billable1861
@billable1861 5 жыл бұрын
I approve and it seems fun to play against too
@ry7hym
@ry7hym 5 жыл бұрын
thank you! I think this must be the best explaining video about commander! this is perfect to show to my friends who want to jump in commander ^_^
@EvertfromNederland
@EvertfromNederland 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew origins of EDH. NIce that you added this in there.
@steelbreaker7
@steelbreaker7 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should do this with other different flavorful commander decks, i think itd be really interesting
@shawnmsattler2116
@shawnmsattler2116 5 жыл бұрын
Mono green, hydra/ disruptor deck. Got 1 hydra with +1/+1 hydra with 40 lands plus doubling season and 1 card that count all trees including your creatures. It came out around +213/+213 hydra.
@maixaule
@maixaule 5 жыл бұрын
Man so much fun on this THX for the explanation! (Nice mustaches it suit you)
@dylanghawks
@dylanghawks 4 жыл бұрын
So what if your cammander Is colorless
@TheEhlek23
@TheEhlek23 5 жыл бұрын
I only have one commander deck centered around borborygmos enraged whos able to deal up to 96 damage per discarded land.
@wasabiwaffle
@wasabiwaffle 5 жыл бұрын
explain right now.
@bonnsyvue
@bonnsyvue 2 жыл бұрын
Is there an updated video on this or does this video sound good already? How about telling a stories of the recent/upcoming commander decks?
@thebookpotato310
@thebookpotato310 5 жыл бұрын
I am totally throwing this deck together, SPIDERS! Already bought my Ishkanah
@Sir_Francis
@Sir_Francis 5 жыл бұрын
Rules of Thumb, A History Lesson, & a Deck Tech... well played sir!
@zendakon8299
@zendakon8299 5 жыл бұрын
When making decks my fam uses the fllowing rules. 1. No more then 100 cards 2. 30%-40% need to be lands 3. Add any planswalkers and power cards you want to revolve around. 4. Half of the remaining cards should be creatures. 5. Half of the now remaining cards should be noncreature permanents and the other should be instants and sorceries. 6. This is an optional rule that we like to follow but we prefer to have the artifact to enchantment ratio 1-3 or half-n-half. Instants and sorceries also follow this ratio. The important of these rules is to reduce the odds of getting terrible hands. 7. Add as many of the same cards as possible to increase the likelihood of consistent card appearances. 8. Have good removal and fallback plans. If you don't have a way to deal with a threat then it isn't good enough. Fog is a great fallback as if you can trick your opponent into attacking with everything then you can devastate by completely countering it and attacking them instead. One of my brother's favorite things to say was "Oh that's bad. Gonna have to get rid of that." to give you an idea of the amount of desecration. 9 and 10 are choices. One or the other. Not both. 9 is to follow a theme. In this videos case it's spiders. In my case it's zombies. In my brothers case its elves. Not too complicated but definitely useful. 10 is the opposite. Don't over think it. Just throw in cards you're familiar with and have rellied on. Add your fun cards and don't worry if they don't get broken combos. As long as they aren't useless.
@xenasBS
@xenasBS 4 жыл бұрын
My approach: look through thousands of cards on scryfall using tens of searchterms untill I have like twenty folders of cards in my phone with different categories. Cut out as much as possible from that, untill you can't anymore. Than reduce it all to ten or fewer folders by broadening each category, and only keep the best of each of those folders. After that's all done, cut out anything that's too expensive. Leaves me with 70 to 75 cards. Add some lands and then experiment which 60/65 cards work best in your deck. Takes way too much effort but you end up with pretty good budget decks.
@monomanamaniac
@monomanamaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Draw and mana acceleration are mandatory categories for each deck
@truegrit2060
@truegrit2060 5 жыл бұрын
in my own spider deck(Thantis,The Warweaver) I added instant-traps & fog instants. 🕷
@Burden82
@Burden82 5 жыл бұрын
there should be way more ramp because iskanahs activated ability is a wincon by it self and if you can activated it more than once each turn it kills pretty fast with lots of spiders
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) Yeah probably. We were counting on the big-butt spiders to protect us while we just get our lands out, but a few mana rocks wouldn't hurt.
@wilmernordlof4855
@wilmernordlof4855 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Im new to edh and i have a question: can i choose to send my commander to the graveyard instead of the command zone??
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) You can. Sending them back to the command zone is always an optional replacement effect. You can ignore it if it is more advantageous to let your commander go to the graveyard, or, back to your own hand in the case of cards that bounce things from the battlefield.
@wilmernordlof4855
@wilmernordlof4855 5 жыл бұрын
@@tcgplayercom ok thanks
@jasoncg2956
@jasoncg2956 4 жыл бұрын
4:41 Just got flashbacks to the time I was living at my old apartments and my mom had a huge-ass lumpy spider hanging outside her window. Tried everything to kill it: smacking with shoes (various), light it on fire, take it down with a hose full-blast, Raid (or something like it). Nothing. We eventually went back to trying to use my neighbors lighter to burn it, although it took us holding the flame directly under the spider for approximately 50 minutes without moving. Fun times.
@HiroZeroVirus
@HiroZeroVirus 5 жыл бұрын
my method for building a commander: "ooh this is nifty effect that could be super over powered if operated right!" finds no cards in existance that can help it. "JENK IT IS!" or also "hey have you ever noticed that there is enough cards to run a tribal [Blank]? i should build a deck that has no solid focus around this tribe." which is why i have my Tribal wincon commander, every piece of it is part of the giant machine of me winning.... my machine usually breaks before i can turn it on...
@howsjames1
@howsjames1 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of this. Unless you play competitive then this format is just a ton of fun. I don't give a shit if it loses 75% of the games it plays, my Yargle deck is boatloads of fund and I'll never stop using it.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 5 жыл бұрын
There are always cards that help it. Always. For example, my friend built new Aurelia, and we found out that a random Theros block 1cmc enchantment, Break Through The Line, is possibly the best card in the deck. Let the bulk rares and uncommons flow through you.
@Will_Morand
@Will_Morand 5 жыл бұрын
I’m actually working on a lore-focused Chandra deck with Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh at the helm and any card relating to Chandra and her story in the 99.
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) I love character based decks like that!
@clon1122
@clon1122 5 жыл бұрын
Have you done one on brawl? It's coming to arena and I would like to see what kind of deck strats you could talk about.
@mageofwar5438
@mageofwar5438 5 жыл бұрын
Stache is on Point. Good video
@architectofdreams73
@architectofdreams73 5 жыл бұрын
I started playing commander because I love to homebrew, but as time went on and commander became more popular, I found myself consistently running into hyper competitive decks. This is fine in a tournament setting or something, but I don't think those sort of decks really need to be played in casual games. How I approach deck making is as such... If I am playing a theme, I have to figure out what I want my deck to be doing. trying to make a deck that does too much can be often time problematic, but not in every case of course. Then I move to land base, I start off with 36 lands and the rest of the 99 cards get narrowed down into smaller groups similar to what is suggested here. I try to stick to a basic formula, which works well in some decks and In others, not so much. I will allocate about 10 slots for mana ramp, 10 slots for removal, and then start looking at how the theme of the deck can be implemented onto creatures. Unless is a very creature light deck, I tend to not go below 20 creatures in a deck if possible or at least some way to make creatures. This might be different in a deck that maybe steals other players' creatures, or if it's a combo/control deck. Usually a finisher will just be a part of the theme, but if not, I usually stick with somewhere around 3 - 5 finisher cards. I know a lot of people like to play with infinite combos and I don't want to start a debate about that, but I don't like using infinite combos or decks that lock the game down so that no one else can play. One thing that I learned is that it is almost impossible to make a deck that deals with everything others are doing, and a player might be tempted to make changes to their deck based on losing to certain things. I think that it is a better idea to try and concentrate on what you want your deck to be doing and make sure it does it. If and when you lose, just move on to the next game. If you have a limited play group and there are players in your group that consistently bring decks that you have no chance of ever coming out on top, try asking them to play a different deck. I ended up moving to mtgo because my local game store was filled with nothing but hyper competitive players and decks that are built to win by turn 3 - 5. Which is fine because that is what they like there, but it's not for me. I do run into decks like that online, but it is far less often. I do miss playing with people in person, but I 1. don't like that kind of magic, 2. don't have the money to devote to high tiered decks.
@snowboundwhale6860
@snowboundwhale6860 4 жыл бұрын
Nichol: "I cast my commander, delirium triggers" Ryan: "I cast Worldfire"
@TherapyForNarhwals
@TherapyForNarhwals 5 жыл бұрын
That stache my man, I love it!
@n00exec
@n00exec 5 жыл бұрын
My conception of EDH it's simple: First, "What do you like/want to your deck do?" Then, "what colors do you want to play?" Finally, "are you ok to not have the other colors in your deck?" Then I check the Archetypes, of Legendary creatures to answer the first question When I built my "Yennett, Cryptic Soveirgn" deck I was planning to create a deck to cheat high cost / high reward cards but at the same time have the option to protect and manipulate the board, thinking wide more than targeted, the first option was Narset, but I don't like Jeskai as combination of colors, so I found an Espers (a color combination what I really like) to answer the second and third questions. After that, I just checked the ability and fulfill what she wants to do. I finally found some really good cards and came with a very powerful deck, but it's my own design and creation, love and flavor: archidekt.com/decks/85612#Yennett,_of_the_Odd_Fate
@yellaturd
@yellaturd 5 жыл бұрын
One great thing about commander in my opinion is not needing to have a play set of each card. You can open a booster box, get an interesting new card and actually use it without needing duplicates.
@tcgplayercom
@tcgplayercom 5 жыл бұрын
(Ryan) That's how I feel too!
@ryangolden2280
@ryangolden2280 5 жыл бұрын
I need help making a first sliver commander deck because it is my first time making one. My budget is 200
@VanillaGorilla621
@VanillaGorilla621 5 жыл бұрын
I love building commander decks. I built both of mine and one for my daughter.
@matthewlaxon828
@matthewlaxon828 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a high school student and have been making 2-3 decks a week for a few weeks (Not trying to flex, I just think I need help)
@ardiwii
@ardiwii 5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewlaxon828 i feel you, I've only started for like a month, and almost made 3 decks, although they are in the same colors and can use same cards, but still pushes me to buy more cards for each of them and neglect my budget restriction
@theeightbithero
@theeightbithero 5 жыл бұрын
This is a deck idea that I had. I’ve never made a commander deck before and wanted to try it. I have little knowledge about building a mana base. That’s why I am only running 34 lands which is not enough, and I have the basic lands foolishly split evenly. Outside of mana organization, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions. Commander: Lasav the multifarious Deck’s Body: Commander Combos: Invisible Stalker Vector asp Slither blade Necrotic Ooz Tree of perdition Etrata the Silencer Shadowmage Infiltrator Phyrexian Dreadnought. Vampires: Life-gain/chump-blocks: Indulgent aristocrat. Bloodline keeper. Sorin Markov. Blood artist. Sanguine Bond. Exquisite Blood. Quietus Spike Mill: Duskmantle Guildmage Night Vale specter Circu Dimir Lobotomist Mind funeral Consuming Aberration Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker. Mind Grind. Jace Memory Adapt. Psychic Corrosion Sphinx’s tutelage Forgotten creation. Thief of sanity. Cypher/Copy: Swarm Intelligence Midnight recovery Last thoughts Whispering madness Stolen identity. Quasiduplicate Dimir doppelgänger Call of the night wings Paranoid delusions Shadow slice Hidden strings Removal/board wipes: Doom blade Mnemonic Betrayal Damnation Dark imposter Accelerated morality Counterspell Mana leak Whelming Wave Dispell Card draw/card advantage: Mission Briefing Dimir Guildmage Curse of verbosity. Notion thief Dimir Charm House Guildmage Dimir archmage Psychic strike Kefnet the mindful Mana ramp: Chromatic lantern Journeyer’s Kite Training Grounds Dimir locket. Dimir signet Thought Vessel. Solemn simulacrum Grand architect Dimir Keyrune Lands Dimir Aqueduct Karn’s Bastion Dimir guild gate Rogue’s passage. 15 swamps 15 islands
@dragullongblackfang8073
@dragullongblackfang8073 5 жыл бұрын
funfact i have 26 lands and 30 manadorcs so go figut in one of my decks
@theeightbithero
@theeightbithero 5 жыл бұрын
do you think mine will be functional? I’ve never seen someone capitalize on the cypher mechanic. I am one who always likes to swim upstream, so I am concerned that my deck will flop because it has a bunch of mechanics that seem to synthesize well together to me, but I have not seen someone use them all together before and that usually means that it doesn’t work. I don’t want to be super competitive, but I do want to enjoy the game.
@dragullongblackfang8073
@dragullongblackfang8073 5 жыл бұрын
@@theeightbithero kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGTGZKuvbLh6iK8 it is a declist please try to remove any card which removes card from your dropzone it is bad
@boempower
@boempower 5 жыл бұрын
Still a pretty nice tutorial and will probebly help a lot of newer players with getting into.commander. Comander is a great format and my decks isualy resolve around an obcene or wierd idea that somehow works. Zedruuh cursed hug. Muldrotha superfriends K and t copy and steal. Xantcha chaos grouphug ect... (yhea I like.playing group hug/slug.type of decks) fun for me fun for everyone...and I noticed that there are a couple of things that always repeat themselves in every deck of mine 36-40 lands folowed by 3-5 mana rocks or cards that make mana (like high tide or grand warlord ratha) 8pieces of removal 2-4 boardwipe . All of the remaining card either enhance my commanders abilities do what he wants to do or helps me achieve the decks.goal faster. My viavictus deck is focused around.he's ability cheating things from your deck.into play .sometimes lands so I consider that my land ramp. So no istants and sorcery's needed for land ramp. Commander is a format where u get to brew idea's no other format makes viable .and gives u the crazy'st story's .I witnissed one game that took 4houes to.finish 3 warpworlds and a bleu player who dident believe in counterspells but.he didt.believe in.copying redirecting.and.bouncing spells.
@mjspartansrule
@mjspartansrule 5 жыл бұрын
I know commander can also be played on a point series system. Does anyone have any thing they made up they would share?
@TechGamesAU
@TechGamesAU 4 жыл бұрын
Is a legendary creature a commander? If so why doesn’t it say ‘commander’ on the card?
@danieldobbs-armstrong9014
@danieldobbs-armstrong9014 4 жыл бұрын
1 of besides basic lands and cards with "you may play any number of copies of 'enter card name here' in a deck" text
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