How to Make a GOOD SUPERMAN Movie

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How to Make a BAD SUPERMAN Movie | • How to Make a BAD SUPE...
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0:00 Introduction
1:57 Ekster
2:44 Superman & Lois / Metropolis
5:47 Casting
13:14 Movie 1 | Man of Tomorrow
15:40 Movie 2 | Brainiac
19:26 Movie 3 | Last Son
24:17 Conclusion
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[@thesuperframe]

Who’s here after the casting announcement 👀🤩

[@Joe-uk4vu]

me

[@wl3217]

Oh yeah! I am so hoping they end up matching more of these castings or that Gunn hired you but you just aren't allowed to disclose it just yet.

[@santiago9655]

i love the video and the casting just proof that your idea is amazing

[@ajanaya8055]

Thank You James Gunn! (If you’re watching this)

[@samndukwe6127]

Came straight here 😂

[@TheDrexLord]

The fact that you called the superman actor before the film even was announced is insane

[@bwoodzjjb]

Facts

[@Cinetiste]

...maybe someone listened. 😏 (Simply, imagine being hired to direct a new Superman film; would not you watch a video called "How to make a good Superman movie" ?). 😉

[@ultimateslinger9857]

@@CinetistePersonally I would too.

[@pizzaninja5194]

I agree. I want a superman that feels like superman to me. Someone who's believes in humanity and that it can be good. That's why I love superman man of tomorrow so much

[@VictoryArtz]

Preaching to the choir on that

[@MSgt_0699]

And this is why they can't deliver the perfect Superman. Every Superman fans wants only to see what they feel is their Superman. Anything less gets bashed. Makes me think if any Superman fans are actual fans at all. Again, Superman fans have hated Superman on screen/film ever since Superman III.

[@djwolfville290]

@@MSgt_0699 you couldn't be any more CORRECT. Seems like alot of so-called Superman fan is unhappy one way or another..that they have a better idea what Superman is. This guy that said he wants a superman that believes in humanity? I mean isn't that what we got in MAN OF STEEL? ((MASTERPIECE).... Superman saves humanity lol. Anyway.im a HUGE fan on the character and I've learned not to argue. it's pointless.

[@joshheralal8758]

@@djwolfville290 Saving humanity does not equal BELIEVING they can be better.

[@buddyxiwill]

@@MSgt_0699 I truly disagree, everyone can interpret characters in different ways, through their own life lens and how a character impacts THEM specifically. Superman is an complex character that can mean a lot of things, the reason for the split amongst Superman fans is Man Of Steel. Where he's practically a different character, of course making "Their Superman", very different from the original source material, and I guess that's where the division comes from but again because instead of highlighting Superman's character, Man Of Steel focuses on his power and how the world would respond to it, kinda ignoring the point. I personally find it annoying when this happens, ignoring his identity as a character just for his evil Superman moveset. It's his morality not his 'scwawy' powers that should've ended up meaning something to the world in Man Of Steel.

[@damienlarson4145]

Dude, your casting of Superman came true.

[@maxalaintwo3578]

Your segment on making Metropolis alive and a character in and of itself is so powerful. Everyone thinks about this for Gotham, but Metropolis never gets the same treatment

[@jaxon2861]

I always thought that was because superman is like ima save the world/universe where as Batman is Gotham

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@jaxon2861 True but I think giving the city a personality would go a long way to make him more interesting. Making it like a modernized but still very 40s/futuristic art deco style would be very cool for a Superman movie.

[@damienlarson4145]

I would picture Metropolis have a golden color to it in cinematography.

[@komodosworld3199]

@@albertokorogu1258 This. This is the Metropolis we all think of without actually knowing what it would look like. THIS Is perfect.

[@ActionHero2000]

Metropolis got that treatment in Superman The Animated Series.

[@nont18411]

There are too much “Evil Superman” that it’s harder to find a media with good Superman these days.

[@natek4488]

It's absolutely insane that ordinary fans are more understanding of the source material than the 'professionals' at Hollywood

[@danielallen4450]

Not really. We absorb a hell of a lot more of the character than they do.

[@nightwinger234]

I think fans write characters how they want, but then are told by their bosses that it's not what the fans are after, when, yes, it is what fans are after. Movies, DC movies in the Extended Universe specifically suffer from executive interference. Marvel had the advantage of using characters no one cares about before the movies.

[@dakotanelson8523]

Here's one specific thing I want from an actor playing Superman: someone who can play both Superman AND Clark Kent as completely distinct characters. Cause the whole shtick that makes Clark's disguise work isn't just a pair of glasses, it's his attitude, his demeanor, the way he slouches, the way he does his hair, wears slightly over-sized clothes to make himself look stocky instead of muscular, etc.

[@jerryterwase9027]

One major rule is not messing with the basics. Hopeful , Clark Kent character, real arc nemesis, respect for supporting characters , good photo shots. ... And definitely no evil Superman bait.

[@1992holycrap]

They'll never *not* do "evil Superman bait." They just can't help themselves.

[@billymccrary2246]

@@1992holycrap #EvilSupermanSucked

[@kjbeast677]

@@1992holycrap Well if they’re going to do it, could they at least do it with characters that AREN’T Clark Kent. Like Bizarro, H’el, Ulysses, ya know, characters who are actually supposed to be basically evil versions of Superman

[@acburkett99]

David Corenswet is officially Superman. Nice pick 🎉

[@joshjones9749]

Its as simple as making Superman as human as possible. Watching the newest Death of Superman movie was actually what made me change my mind about the character after hating him for a long time. Of the big 3, Superman Batman and Wonder woman, Superman by far is the most human. Lex Luthor once hatched a plan to have Clark think Lois was divorcing him and that heartbreak almost took him out of commission entirely. Batman wouldn't give a shit about that, Wonder woman would shrug that off, but Clark is too human for that. He's fully bought into the human experience because he IS human in every way but biology. He doesn't have to pretend, he's not a God playing human. He's just a guy who can do extraordinary things and was raised right. He's a simple character from the ground up and that simplicity is where the genius lies.

[@wandagrey2528]

I don't think Warner Bros going to make a Superman movie anytime soon which is sad but I like your take on it really understand Superman

[@toku-vlogs-and-content7441]

at least not with henry cavil. there is an aprent contract to where they cant use anyone accept cavil till through 2025. smae things with xmen. they cant use new actors till at least 2025. unless they wanna use cavil again, we are gonna have to wait till at least 2025

[@MonkeyRecap]

Say Sike

[@MonkeyRecap]

They fired Henry cavill

[@jerogomezrobledo]

It’s been a year since you made this video and suggested David Corenswet to play Superman, and a year later he’s a leading contender for Superman Legacy (2025). 👏 Well done Super Frame.👏

[@Bat-Gos]

We all won, David is officially Superman now!

[@PeaceKeeper-md2tr]

I just don't like all these other characters being in Superman: Legacy.

[@Bat-Gos]

@@PeaceKeeper-md2tr Why?

[@Duskof81]

Congratulations, you're a prophet. David Corenswet has been casted as Superman in Superman: Legacy!

[@tvcrazyman]

You have a lot of good points. I think you have a good understanding of Superman's character. Sometimes, I think why writers have a hard time with Superman is because they don't really like Superman's character. They seem to have an issue with a idealized small town mentality that Superman should have to be true to his character.

[@Fenris30]

Superman the Movie PUT the Kents back on the Farm and Clark at the Daily Planet when in the Comics of the 1970's the Kents in Superboy ran the General Store in Town and and Clark Kent in the Superman and Action Comics runs was a NEWS ANCHOR for WGBS News. They Purposefully Regressed him and he's been tanking in sales ever since if you're being Honest. Superman use to RULE THE ROOST so much so the DC was called SUPERMAN DC comics. Oh how the mighty fell and Nostalgia IMO was to blame.

[@michaelsledge7980]

Came back to this because I was sure he casted the same guy who’s gonna play Superman in James Gunns movie, well done

[@soundlessecho6993]

Came back here after the news that David Corenswet will be the new Superman in James Gunn's "Superman Legacy" movie.

[@FiggityJones]

Man I’d love they follow this blueprint. Honestly feels like it should be so easy to get right. Apart from a few aesthetic disagreements in the costume department which I assume were only used for the sake of ease in making this video, its honestly perfect. Also blew my mind with Goodman as Perry White casting. Like it felt so obvious after you said it and I just never thought about it. Feel like I’m over using the word perfect here, but it really would be perfect casting. One day. If Superman has taught me anything, its that I can hope, and I choose to hold onto the hope that one day we will get another good and uplifting Superman film.

[@FictagiousDaveSavage]

Someone has a glass ball for the Superman casting! Man Of Steel got me interested in Superman again and love movie and I'll defend that movie all the way.

[@LP3Customs]

You could've used footage of Braniac from the Krypton show. Braniac, Lobo, and Doomsday looked perfect on that show

[@abruoon]

hell yeah

[@billymccrary2246]

Never watch that show.

[@KennethKralyJr]

Both Superman (1978) and the current Superman & Lois TV Series both treat the character of Superman / Clark Kent with the respect he deserves. The Zack Snyder Man of Steel Superman Trilogy of films did not. The simple thing they meaning WB needs to do with Superman on film is write and come up with better stories on film for Superman / Clark Kent. Show more of the Clark Kent side of the character plus his roots in Smallville a bit that was I feel missing a bit in the Snyderverse films. Take the Superman & Lois approach to the character. That show has proven you can tell a good story in the tv format with Superman in the modern age and do it right. Hire a good director and have a good script for the film. Also make a movie for everyone to enjoy.

[@maryh7187]

@Erik Kemeey can I ask why? what he said is true imo

[@calebryhal293]

@Erik Kemeey Have you EVER read a superman comic?

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@calebryhal293 no most people haven't lol

[@rickblaine9670]

The fact with the critiques to Snyder is that I think they try and go too deep, when the problem, in my opinion, is actually way more surface level (but not less severe, it's just a different area): it's not the character's heart and principles that Snyder doesn't understand; he kinda does; what's wrong is simply his basic attitude, his personality, the small ways in which he reacts to people and events around him. The point I'm trying to make is that Clark Kent, much like his Japanese "cousin" Goku, is a cheerful, optimistic, easygoing dude. His immense power should not be the first thing that strikes you about him when he's on screen. That should be his smile, his laughter, the way he makes you feel at ease. Snyder's Clark, I think it's difficult to deny, acts like a SLIGHTLY less serious Bruce Wayne, and that's not how he's supposed to behave. That's not how Superman's personality is. As I wrote in my comment above, if you want a live action example of how Clark Kent's character could be like in a modern Superman movie, take a look at the character of Desmond Doss, played by Andrew Garfield, in Mel Gibson's "Hacksaw Ridge". That's the idea, in my opinion.

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@rickblaine9670 Completely agree.

[@dylanbottom4669]

This absolutely aged like fine wine, given the new casting news for superman legacy.

[@KalKratos]

I would remove Metallo from Man of Tomorrow. Parasite is good enough alone for the first movie as a physical threat. And Metallo is too similar with Parasite in terms as their function as a Superman villain. Also, introducing Kryptonite in the first movie is not a good idea, especially with a cyborg powered by the stuff.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Agreed. Plus Parasite could work to showcase Superman moral dillema in the first movie and what makes such iconic figure: His kindness and heroism. Parasite could be portrayed as tragic character, a innocent work who suffers a accident with chemicals and is turn into this monster who needs to feed on energy to survive. His rivalry with Superman could be very similar to Frodo and Gollum, with the hero trying not to hurt or kill Parasite but save him, unlike Lex Luthor, could play the role of antagonist, by taking advantage of Superman compassion towards Parasite to turn the public against the man of steel and try to kill Parasite by himself, so he can become Metropolis hero

[@buddyxiwill]

@@alexandrefrauches132 I'd argue it'd be too similar to Man Of Tomorrow tho, so I personally think it should be Metallo

[@alexandrefrauches132]

@@buddyxiwill Not so much since, while Man Of Tomorrow they focus more on Superman and he having to come out ot the world as alien rather than him trying to find a cure for Parasite. Not to mention that Luthor and Superman rivalry was poorly developt. In a movie they could focus on Superman trying to find a cure to Parasite while Luthor tries to kill him and become the city's hero. Metallo could work as well but I think he would fit better the second movie, when Superman is already know by the public. I could see the goverment wanting to make Superman into their personal agent, but he would decline, saying that he represents more than just america, causing the army to decide to create Metallo to be their own superman.

[@mcurran6505]

Now THAT is a Superman trilogy that deserves to be done right. 👍

[@milkiassamuel780]

Wow, just wow! This... this is the Superman trilogy I have dreamt of seeing. Thank you so much Mitch for creating this incredible pitch. I cannot imagine how much time and work you must've put into it, and how much we appreciate it. Superman is my favourite superhero and your pitch alone has so much love and passion for the character, far more than Warner Bros could give the character. I also think that in an ideal world I think we could see more than a trilogy for Superman as I am sure that there is so much to say about this character. I was wondering, since you've finally completed your pitch, do you have any other plans or other characters that you would like to create pitch videos, like this one, for. Because of you I have actually been inspired to write up my own DCEU and one those franchises includes a Green Lantern franchise, which I am quite passionate to make and was wondering if you had any advice or ideas?

[@thesuperframe]

I'm not going to do a pitch video but I do have a green lantern video coming up :)

[@milkiassamuel780]

@@thesuperframe Either way, I'm looking forward to it, and I actually have written up some scripts and castings I would love to see in a truly expansive DCEU and with themes I would love to explore, such as my own dream Superman franchise (coincidentally has very similar ideas to yours as I also want to represent a Superman who is human, hopeful and optimistic with a wide ensemble of villains and stories), as well as my own dream Flash trilogy, a Green Lantern franchise, a Martian Manhunter show etc... . I was wondering if you had any advice about creating and editing videos just like you do, because I have been thinking of one day making videos of my own and some of those videos would be pitch videos for my dream DCEU. I would very much appreciate any advice about creating videos as well as you do.

[@billymccrary2246]

#AgreedWithYou

[@angelakhtar5754]

@@thesuperframe I would have to partly disagree. I think superman should be a grounded (no Krypton or space Ventures) 3 hour long epics, with drama and action also a Pentology 5 movies long, as 3 is too short, themes should be hope, crime and a bit on media and how they report it initially at least, the experiment would be what happens if we put a superman in a city what would criminals do? Superman should be in-between Christopher Reeves and Henry Cavills versions but tone of the movies should be light mostly. I think it should have an overarching villain a Bryan Cranston Lex luthur a business man become a politician and to set his sites on becoming president by 4th movie. It should be a game of chess with him and the man of steel (body vs the mind). He should be able to turn the people against the man of steel and be experimenting of 2 or 3 Kryptonites. Lois should be a bit more like “Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman” as she is boring in every other on screen version. Every character should feel like a main character and not background. 1. The Superman - the movie should begin with baby superman landing earth and parts of his teen years with his powers in Smallville, with his disappearance after the death of his father. Moving to city life meeting Lois, office life hiding his identity, criminals/Lex to deal with and becoming superman. 2. The Man Of Steel - should deal with the questions do we need superman or has he made things worse, so an invasion story much like man of steel minus the massive destruction. The villain should be Zod with the quote “kneel before me” and lex winning and turning the people against superman. The people give superman 1 day on earth after zods defeat. Should be an very emotional send off for his mother and lois, he looks back on to earth and full speed ahead. The people back on earth look forward to a dark life without superman. 3. The Death Of Superman - we see a world without superman, then to superman trying to understand what zod meant (zod left his lab rat of a son on earth). The villain should be doomsday but not like the comics visibly more in human form that mutates slightly closer to 3rd act. So superman comes back few years later to find zods son (slightly like homelander form the boys) working with lex and hes taken superman's place with the people (sort of a city with 2 supermans). 4. The Man of Steel Returns - villain is james marsters version of brainiac and lex and also the black suit. Its about would be a bit of an Invasion of the Body Snatchers story, between zod and brainiac it’s about the rebirth of krypton on earth. Ends with supermans mums death and bit of the red Kryptonite and superman disappears. 5. The Man Of Tomorrow - starts with a very superman 3 superman who don’t care. Lex final gets superman powers so now we got a really smart lex with the superman powers from the brainiac deal and both go head to head for the fight for metropolis soul. This movie should be viewed at cinemas with 2 versions A and B viewings which the viewer can choose, where the 2nd part of the movie is different to accommodate 2 different endings.

[@willsherman4044]

@@milkiassamuel780 I’ve also been inspired to write my own DCEU. And I’ve been working on it since September of 2022. My friend and I got together and decided how it should work. We’re writing plots, scripts and casting too. I’m interested to here about yours

[@danterose6673]

I love your take on it. My one thing is I think I'd switch the stories of 2 and 3. I see Braniac as a ending villain, but also I think it gives more weight to Lex helping. If Lex ends the second movie defeated by Superman, but almost reflects on the ideology of Supes then in the third movie when he comes to help it shows the Supes ideology changed him in some way. Supes believing even Lex can change and then Lex acting on that would be a great little moment. Not completely changing him, but a little hope that a good man is in there.

[@thesuperframe]

Had a lot of fun editing this video, just want to say thanks to everyone for the support in these 'What if' or 'How to do it' videos, I really enjoy making these hypothetical stories for you all, I might even finish Spiderman 6 or X-men 3... stay tuned.

[@mcmmckinney8388]

A lot of your ideas were some I had of my own we even had some of the same cast candidates I think david is an excellent choice for clark especially if he bulked up a bit also i had lex as a background villain for the first one to and i think something that could be added to the dynamic of lois and Clark's relationship is competition like on lois and Clark I'd start them both out young instead of loos already working at the planet much like recent the animated film

[@mcmmckinney8388]

What is the theme 15:08

[@herloss448]

bruh ur lex luthor casting choice is so good ( chefs kiss )

[@johnhargrove5268]

X-Men 3

[@dylanbottom4669]

You and me have very similar thoughts on what DC should do for a superman movie.

[@samk7611]

Congratulations @thesuperframe they actually listened to you. DC must have watched this video to find the cast for superman.

[@declan6602]

A live action movie adaptation of Secret Origin would be awesome

[@nicwaterfill2931]

It is honestly my favorite interpretation of Superman’s origin in the comics. For the majority of the story, Geoff Johns doesn’t let Clark’s Kryptonian heritage define him, but his humanity.

[@declan6602]

@@nicwaterfill2931 yknow what's funny, in the year since I posted this, I've started to prefer Birthright lmao, though I still love secret origin. I do like him being influenced by his kryptonian side too, I like the framing that he's a fantastical first gen immigrant

[@nicwaterfill2931]

@@declan6602 I have yet to actually read Birthright. Might as well get a copy as Mark Waid wrote it and he is one of my favorites.

[@Nzosaba_Matenge]

Funny thing is, I've had my own ideas for a second Superman movie. Not a first or third. I'd have Livewire and Parasite be the villains. I know what you're thinking "Isn't that too much?", I'd establish Livewire in the first film, give a role like JJJ in NWH. She doesn't interact with the main cast directly but has some sway over how Superman is perceived. Make her echo issues people have held over Superman in the past, while he proves them wrong. The second film would have her and Parasite get powers in an accident, both blaming Superman for it. The two would work together to try and break Superman. Livewire would have more encounters with Superman, allowing her to see that she was wrong about him and making her doubt the plan. In the meanwhile, we would show Parasite progressively became more of a monster and embody all the claims Livewire made about Superman. This climaxes with Parasite betraying and attempting to drain Livewire only to be stopped by Superman. She helps Superman defeat Parasite in the end

[@Ray.7862]

This is great!!

[@billymccrary2246]

I would like to see and watch it, it would be one of the best Superman movies alongside with the first Richard Donner's Superman movie and the animated Superman: Man of Tomorrow movie.

[@thomasezzy]

God, I so wish this was all real. I just want a Superman movie that feels like it was made by someone who absolutely adores the character and everything he stands for. And on a side note, would love to hear who you'd cast for Conner Kent in a 4th or 5th film if you ever decide to continue this great concept.

[@kjbeast677]

Yeah, A Superman movie made by someone who actually understands and adores what the character stands for shouldn’t be a want, but what we need. Not a Superman film made by someone who insists on “deconstructing” the character of Clark Kent by making him essentially a flying Rambo just for the sake of making his own twisted bleak fantasy of what he thinks of comic superheroes to life

[@Temple277]

Well super frame, ur wish has come into fruition, David Corenswet is our new SUPERMAN!

[@superkid801]

All of this I love! I want an optimistic Superman so much! I appreciate Superman and Lois for tv, but the films have yet to capture that. I like this trilogy and wish it was real.

[@lyrahaja]

Bro manifested the superman casting so hard and it came true

[@shonenbois]

From a young age, I always saw Superman very similar to Captain America in terms of how they’re both heroes who are very human and try to see the best in people without changing his ideals in the face of adversity

[@rjournal9832]

14:40 this is what I and a lot of other people want from a modern Superman origin movie along with some respectable fight scenes. Not struggling to be good, but struggling to prove to others that they can be just as good as well. That I think is the core of Superman's mission

[@charliehustle3876]

What Superman story have we gotten where he is “struggling to be good”?

[@personperson573]

@@charliehustle3876 I mean you can argue BvS

[@personperson573]

@@charliehustle3876 Or any of the Justice League related Superman movies (Not Josstice League)

[@haydenmaines5905]

XD my god, I came up with my own version of a Superman trilogy - the first movie featured Ulysses, the 2nd featured Lex Luthor running for and becoming President, while funding Parasite and Metallo, and the 3rd featured Brainiac invading, and Superman and Luthor working together (President Lex in his power suit that had been developed out of Metallo) to defend Earth. Weird to see such similar ideas in a video.

[@_Snafu_]

GD just showing the Geoff Johns Superman with your descriptions of what the movie should be while having that music in the background was so inspiring to me. I have goosebumps just from that, which is why I know if they just did half of what they should with Superman or would go down as a masterpiece of cinema.

[@beardedretroguy6428]

I really liked Henry Cavill as Superman even though he wasn't written all that well, but your cast you put together was really good and well thought out. I really enjoyed this video.

[@ajanaya8055]

Here's to Superman! 🥂 For a better tomorrow.

[@theofficalchairmanrevoluti614]

This is absolutely wonderful. These sound like dream Superman films. I think that you know exactly what you’re talking about on this one and it completely suits the characters. Great job and I hope to see more videos like this on more characters!

[@nickleechcreative]

I absolutely adore this! What comics have you pulled from for the repeated images, it’s a PERFECT visual representation for the real, definitive Superman. Killed it again, king 👏🏻

[@arandomcollector751]

Dude you got it right!! David corenswet is our new Superman!!! It’s official!

[@user-ny8gk8yo3f]

David Corenswet is superman now. Dude are you James Gunn pal or what? Its like you knew who will be casted. I suppose James Gunn watched this and i hope he watched other videos on your channel.

[@chrispy3369]

Since we're unfortunately not getting Man of Steel 2. This should be the guidebook for James Gunn's new Superman.

[@angelakhtar5754]

how about this 1 I would have to partly disagree. I think superman should be a grounded (no Krypton or space Ventures) 3 hour long epics, with drama and action also a Pentology 5 movies long, as 3 is too short, themes should be hope, crime and a bit on media and how they report it initially at least, the experiment would be what happens if we put a superman in a city what would criminals do? Superman should be in-between Christopher Reeves and Henry Cavills versions but tone of the movies should be light mostly. I think it should have an overarching villain a Bryan Cranston Lex luthur a business man become a politician and to set his sites on becoming president by 4th movie. It should be a game of chess with him and the man of steel (body vs the mind). He should be able to turn the people against the man of steel and be experimenting of 2 or 3 Kryptonites. Lois should be a bit more like “Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman” as she is boring in every other on screen version. Every character should feel like a main character and not background. 1. The Superman - the movie should begin with baby superman landing earth and parts of his teen years with his powers in Smallville, with his disappearance after the death of his father. Moving to city life meeting Lois, office life hiding his identity, criminals/Lex to deal with and becoming superman. 2. The Man Of Steel - should deal with the questions do we need superman or has he made things worse, so an invasion story much like man of steel minus the massive destruction. The villain should be Zod with the quote “kneel before me” and lex winning and turning the people against superman. The people give superman 1 day on earth after zods defeat. Should be an very emotional send off for his mother and lois, he looks back on to earth and full speed ahead. The people back on earth look forward to a dark life without superman. 3. The Death Of Superman - we see a world without superman, then to superman trying to understand what zod meant (zod left his lab rat of a son on earth). The villain should be doomsday but not like the comics visibly more in human form that mutates slightly closer to 3rd act. So superman comes back few years later to find zods son (slightly like homelander form the boys) working with lex and hes taken superman's place with the people (sort of a city with 2 supermans). 4. The Man of Steel Returns - villain is james marsters version of brainiac and lex and also the black suit. Its about would be a bit of an Invasion of the Body Snatchers story, between zod and brainiac it’s about the rebirth of krypton on earth. Ends with supermans mums death and bit of the red Kryptonite and superman disappears. 5. The Man Of Tomorrow - starts with a very superman 3 superman who don’t care. Lex final gets superman powers so now we got a really smart lex with the superman powers from the brainiac deal and both go head to head for the fight for metropolis soul. This movie should be viewed at cinemas with 2 versions A and B viewings which the viewer can choose, where the 2nd part of the movie is different to accommodate 2 different endings.

[@ethankillion786]

Beyond his strong moral code and sense of justice, Superman is compelled to learn the lessons from his history and move forward with his life. Able to access information and advice from his birth family inside his Fortress of Solitude, Kal-El benefits from the wisdom of his ancestors applied to his new life.

[@cosmiccheesehead8261]

If this kind of trilogy were to have a spin off series, I think “Superman’s Pal: Jimmy Olsen” would be good. It could provide some world building, introduce new characters (both within and outside) of the Superman mythos, go more in-depth with not just Jimmy but also with other members of the Daily Planet and everyday citizens of Metropolis while maintaining the weirdness and sincerity of the silver age in modern day. Although that’s just me talking and yes I would love to see live action versions of Jimmy’s odd counterparts like Elastic Lad or a giant turtle, but feel free to disagree

[@goofact2]

Who would you cast for a live action version of the Elite from “what’s so funny about truth Justice and the American way?” I think that story deserves to be in live action.

[@narutouzumaki2005]

I feel like elements of that can be use in a final movie

[@hasthehighground8560]

@@narutouzumaki2005 you could use the Elite as Luthor’s answer to Superman as one of his big talking points/policies for his presidential campaign “The Justice League are far too irresponsible that’s why I’ve created the Elite a superhero team controlled directly by the United States government”

[@goofact2]

@@hasthehighground8560 maybe save Luthor for an eventual All Star Superman movie where Clark dies.

[@omarsalem1219]

Why? We already have a great animated movie

[@albertokorogu1258]

@@omarsalem1219 Yeah a movie that only superman fans have seen. The general public doesn't know and doesn't really care about animated superman movies yeah it sucks but that's the truth. Just do what they did in that animated movie and put it in a movie and your job is done.

[@LucasHopkins2006]

Billy Zane seems like he could be another case of perfect casting, he even sounds like animated Lex in that clip, he might as well have been made for the role

[@dogsdreamtoo8427]

Seriously, I don’t understand how you don’t have a million subs yet. This is the level of quality of Lemmino’s “The Search for D. B. Cooper”. Keep going and you’ll get there eventually!

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Very good pitch! That's the Superman trilogy I hope to see in the movies someday. Coincidentally, my idea for superman movie also takes inspiration from from Geoff Johns's Secret Origin as well Superman & Lois origin from episode 11, although I did add some different details: The title would be "Superman A Better Tomorrow" and the story would take place on the day Clark arrives at Metropolis, finding a apartament and job as Daily Planet reporter and using his powers to stop a car crash revealing himself as Superman to the public for the first time (DETAIL: To make this version new and different from the previous ones, for the most part of the movie, Clark would use his T-shirt/jeans look from the new 52, stablishing he still growing into the Superman we all know and love). The movie would focus on Superman with the pressure of being Metropolis’s hero. with people wanting him to be a "savior" and his fear of letting people down and failing to live up to their expectations (kind like what Marvel tried to do with Spider man in FFH). His supporting cast would be Jimmy Olsen (the comic relief), Perry White, Captain Maggie Sawyer, Professor Hamilton (who would play a big role in the clímax) and, of course, Lois lane, who at first would see Clark just a naive dorky farm boy but slowly developing feelings for him as Clark decides to help her in case rather than write about Superman, proving he truly wants to expose the corruption in the city and help the people just like her. The villain of the story would be Parasite (save Metallo for sequel), a Lexcorp worker named Rudy Jones. who end up discoverying Luthor’s illegal experiments with kriptonite and suffers an accident that turn him into a monster with uncontrollable hunger for energy. He and Superman would have a relationship very similar to Frodo and Gollum from LOTR, with Clark, after discovering about Parasite origin trying to help the poor man, convincing him to go to STAR Labs to find a cure. However things are not that easy. Not only Parasite starts to be slowly corrupt by his hunger for power but Luthor, to prevent Parasite from being cure and expose his crimes, would send his henchman to try to kill him. Superman is able to stop them but the damage was already done and Parasite, in his madness, thinking that Superman try to betray him and kill him, would drain his powers and escape, hurting people in the way, including Jimmy. To make things worse, Luthor takes advantage of this to turn the public against Superman saying this all his fault because of his "naive view of the world”, because he tried to save a monster and instead of killing it and ending the threat he represents. This would be the “ all is lost moment” with Superman affected by Luthor words, feeling guilty for the people wounded by Parasite because his decisions, and hurt by the fact that people are losing faith in him. This would lead to conversation with his parents (jonathan kent would be alive in this version), who inspire him to not give up, saying that do good in the world is never easy but is not impossible. Before he leaves, Martha would give Clark a gif, telling him to open in the right time. After returning to Metropolis, Clark, discover that the Parasite stole the city’s energy causing a black out. Seeing people in danger and inspired by his parents words Clark would recover his confidence and opens his mother gift, revealing a new suit . Now he is Superman and is ready to save the day. After saving some civilians With the help of Lois and Hamilton, he is able to track down the Parasite and cure him, turning the villain into Rudy Jones. Once free from the curse, he would expose Luthor illegal experiments, putting his company under investigation. In the following day, Superman give a interview to Lois, telling the public about his origin and asking them to stop searching for a savior, that he is just a guy trying to help and they can do the same for each other and work together to give the city a better tomorrow. The movie ends with Clark having to cancel a date with Lois to answer a emergency, with the final shot having Clark flying through Metropolis as Superman, now more confident than ever in himself as super hero.

[@billymccrary2246]

#LovedIt

[@kidmods]

David corenswet has just been casted as superman

[@jasoncaetano9708]

Who came back here now that David Corenswet is one of the finalists for Superman: Legacy

[@mainsink6385]

Tyler is amazing! Kid:"Nice costume"! Superman: "My mom made it for me!" Me:Tears. why hasn't Warner bros. hired you yet?

[@NotBizarro]

What do you think about American Alien? I personally like the slightly irreverent tone as it really humanizes Clark. Also I love your emphasis on making the Daily Planet Crew and Metropolis as a character.

[@bmvthemoviefanatic7282]

I LOVE American Alien! Very underrated. If I wasn't gonna take inspiration from the comics Super Frame has done already, that's the comic I would wanna use.

[@jadenbryant9283]

@@bmvthemoviefanatic7282 agreed I like it although it sucks that Max Landis is a prick

[@JR_Donofrio]

A Steven Spielberg Superman movie would be phenomenal. You’ve just earned yourself a subscriber

[@billymccrary2246]

#Agreed

[@VictoryArtz]

If we see Michael Giacchino do the Music for This iteration of the Man of Steel He will complete the holy trilogy of the greatest superheroes of all time.

[@StareachValcin]

SUPER FRAME, I think your ideas for Superman movies and even Superman casting would work. You definitely put a lot of thought into it, and definitely show a good understanding of who Superman is and what he stands for. While I do think that Superman is doing well in animation and on the Superman and Lois series, I hope that people can learn from your example to create good modern live action Superman movies.

[@brooksbrigmon2533]

Oh my gosh, your casting choices are amazing. Like, my mind actually exploded with each of your choices, great work!

[@hoou3420]

Dude I think James gunn is watching your videos bc the actor u wanted for Superman is gonna play him now

[@marklewis6209]

I love your castings I’m interested to see your castings to the whole justice league my picks would be Battinson, Benjamin Walker as Superman, Kaya Scodelario as Wonder Woman, John David Washington as Green Lantern and Billy Magnussen as Flash.

[@LP3Customs]

One of the best KZbin videos I've ever seen!!! Superman is my favorite character and he deserves to be done right on the big screen again

[@ajanaya8055]

You should make a video of why people are too obsessed and attached to Henry Cavill.

[@Drake_4]

How to make a Good Superman Movie Step 1 Don't Hire Zack Snyder / Fire Him Step 2 Have a Director that understands the source material or has read at least 1 superman comic in his life. No Dark Knight returns is not a good one to base him off of. Step 3 You don't need to make Superman relatable have him be inspiring and a friend. Step 4 Have him save people Step 4 part 2 Have him Smile more Step 5 watch the Original Superman Movie with Christopher Reeves and see what Superman actually looks like. An intelligent, inspiring hero who at the end of the day is a friend of the people.

[@richardjaso3043]

Perfect Superman trilogy 👌🤩

[@WhyAreTheyComplaining]

I’ve always had an idea for a Superman and lex fight, an amazing fight we’re Superman goes into the atmosphere to not cause collateral damage, punches are thrown, eye lasers, kryptonite, but then Superman is about slam lex into earths ground but then Superman saves lex by holding him right above the ground, lex then exclaims “Why, why did you saves me?!” Superman then says “ because I would never kill” lex than says “what are you” Superman than states “more human then you ever will be”

[@WhyAreTheyComplaining]

Also I would make the first movie different than you made it I would do it like the Batman so no origin I would start it when he is already Superman

[@mydreaminorbit9297]

Good call on David Cornswet and a nice fan cast. I'm glad James Gunn nailed it with the actual casting of this film.

[@habibdanioko4351]

Why aren’t people like you directors for movies bro. Comic book turn to real life movies would be so dope if the directors casted nowadays were this determined and dedicated like you to create the perfect Superman film

[@joshnoehring3933]

I don’t care if it’s 20-30 years from now, we must have Billy Zane as Lex!!! You are right on the money. His belief is his own righteousness is his downfall. ❤️❤️ your channel.

[@jamesorion8316]

Dude your first film pitch is almost exactly my first Superman film pitch. Insane! I love it. David is also perfect for the role I’ve been wanting David to be Superman for the past few years I think honestly and unfortunately we won’t see a good Superman movie in our life time 😢.

[@Sathya_1996]

This is perfect. WB needs to see this. Billy Zane as Luthor 👌

[@abruoon]

that Brainiac from the Krypton series is just visually perfect for your movie

[@44excalibur]

How to make a good Superman movie: *FOLLOW THE DAMN COMICS!!!*

[@JStarStar00]

Nobody reads the damn comics. Total national circulation are like 50,000 for the top titles. In the 70s it was about 5 million

[@44excalibur]

@@JStarStar00 Without the comics, there are no characters, no stories, and no movies. You want to dismiss the comics? Fine, stay illiterate and continue to watch crappy movies. I prefer to have movies be made the right way, so they're actually good.

[@f3lla776]

​@@44excaliburhe's one of those dudes who think stuff should be made for the sole purpose of profit. This is like the antithesis of what art should be even commercial art like superheroes. Stuff should be made from creativity not just because you want money. Theres a lot of good stuff out there that arent successful because monetary success isnt an indicator of quality. Dude is a total moron

[@LJ-SYLKI]

Really called the Superman casting

[@24canvases48]

Being in LA for the past few years, I realized why Superman is so difficult to adapt in Hollywood. It's simple, the common Los Angelino and/or movie exec identifies more with Lex Luthor than Clark Kent. Clark is a literal alien, but Lex is a metaphorical alien. He is well removed from people. So based on how most LA people are, they wouldn't like a person like Clark Kent.

[@FilmkidCee]

this video rly hits now that david cornswet is actually superman

[@ethanhansen1479]

Been waiting for this. Thank you

[@rogueguardian]

So.... I started watching superman and Lois..... It's GREAT. Like holy shit I'm invested more into Clark and Lois than I was in the Snyder films (I enjoyed them, but not as much as I hoped) they feel like genuine people. And making Clark a dad was a genius decision, I'm someone who has a brother and dam Jordan and Jonathan's relationship feels just like mine with my brother. Dam good show.

[@prettyaverage97]

I love everything about this, from the casting choices to the plot ideas. Superman was, is, and will always be a symbol of hope, an ideal to look up to. But he's also a very human, deeply vulnerable character. A movie that can balance both these sides of the character would be the perfect adaptation, much like Richard Donner's movie was. Man, I really, sincerely hope James Gunn's Superman is as good as the character deserves.

[@WhyAreTheyComplaining]

Super frame I would like to tell you that these Superman videos give me hope and help me a lot. thank you so so much I love your videos and keep up the good work

[@milkiassamuel780]

If Superman has taught me anything, he has taught me to always keep hope. And that daring to dream is never wrong. I also really love SUPER FRAME's videos and I really want to one day make videos like him.

[@WhyAreTheyComplaining]

@@milkiassamuel780 me to

[@askalo8009]

That whole intro was just awesome, no idea what that orchestral song was that you played as a ‘title screen’ about 2 mins in but it made the entire video feel super cinematic

[@tyler.w123]

Absolutely, that song gave me nostalgia for something I haven't experienced yet. Anyone know what song that was?

[@askalo8009]

@@tyler.w123 I desperately need to know, felt like the perfect Superman theme

[@tyler.w123]

Caves - Cody Fry

[@mavrickalexander]

Now that I think about it, Billy zane is FREAKISHLY IDENTICAL in Physical Looks and even in voice(his voice is smooth and deep, sounds like a younger slightly less deep Clancy brown, imo). And well his acting, is I think capable maybe, but honestly, everything Ive seen in him in the last maybe 7-5 yrs, he’s only in b movies, and he’s usually goofy and over the top always. But eitherway, I have many other picks that Im way more confident in their ability to BE/SHOW LEX LUTHOR.

[@ryanhill5137]

Great video! All your effort into making this pitch is amazing. Billy Zane as Lex Luthor is now the only casting I can see for that character. And I like treating this trilogy with a Raimi-esque earnestness and heart. That's what Superman is all about. And I loved your analysis of why third films tend to falter when they've lost one or more of those storytelling stakes.

[@AzA609]

I love you very obvious passion for Superman!

[@BB.156]

I’ve recently fallen in love with Superman and down research and plan to read more comics. I’ve begun outlines for my own quadrilology of Superman films and quite a few of the ideas resemble yours. I really enjoy these fan looks at Superman and hope these can make a full story a reality. Maybe more than a trilogy I’m order to tell what they need.

[@silkysonicspaceship3421]

Hey , first of all Love the Video....Do you think you might make these types of videos for Green Lantern, The Flash, or Wonder Woman?

[@johnangel9053]

Absolutely amazing video mate

[@CamBostock]

Love these types of videos

[@phatalphd5402]

That's a killer cast. Never heard of your pick for Superman but now I'm sold

[@Grandi74]

Now THAT is a Superman trilogy I’d really love to see.

[@fictionverse7292]

I know you prefer only 3 movies, but I had an idea for a fourth movie: (either) Superman Rise of Steel or Superman Men of Steel: About where Superman is a father to toddlers while a new guy name John Henry has an armored suit. They both see each other and fight each other at first as a misunderstanding. Meanwhile Doomsday in his pod starts to a trajectory to Earth. We learn more about John Henry and start to like him. Supergirl would return as Superman thinks he has to do the job by himself which is an inner struggle. Doomsday lands and Superman fights him and loses, but Steel and Supergirl comes to help. They defeat Doomsday together and Superman realizes he can’t do it himself. He learns he’s not alone and can rely on others so he can focus more on being Clark Kent and father. This movie is like an aftermath like the beginning of his new journey as father like Johnathan Kent with Lois

[@caok1010]

That seems like a good fourth movie

[@oscarrnved6661]

Amazing, super frame! I would love to see what you would do if you were to make your own Batman trilogy, you really show how you understand the character and I would love to see what type of story you could make.

[@ethanhansen1479]

It would be cool in the first movie we get that speech from johnanthon kent. Where a young Clark wants to play sports and his father tells him his powers are meant for so much more. That his powers aren’t meant for personal gain but to help people who need help. Much like a great power comes great responsibility like talk

[@IzayaLee1725]

Such a great video I'd love to see you do other trilogies for the DC universe Green Lantern, Flash ect ect

[@rickblaine9670]

When I think about what I'd want from a Superman movie, an example that always comes to my mind is "Hacksaw Ridge" by Mel Gibson. I believe the way the movie gets you to root for Desmond Doss while he refuses again and again to be corrupted by violence and brutality, through still wanting to help via his kindness and compassion, is exactly the way you should feel for Clark Kent in my ideal Superman movie.

[@vj.phillips]

Great video!

[@spider-manunofficial3662]

I have been waiting for this

[@johnmichael_]

Watching this after the Cavill news, great video!

[@ARTMaghari]

you were right