How to make an old slow computer FAST!

[@-xLucas]

i got an ssd a few months back and showed everyone else in my house how much faster it was even though they didnt care it was amazing to me

[@judehamer3727]

TheProperDonut same, put one in my MacBook Pro and added 8gbs of ram and now it boots up in like 4 seconds

[@Mdudeman13]

Once you get an SSD, you’ll never go back. (At least for a boot drive)

[@Totenglocke42]

Congratulations on finally arriving in 2008! Just wait until 2030 when you finally try an NVME drive and a multi-core CPU, you're going to absolutely crap your pants! 😂

[@righteousone8454]

I am sorry, I showed my mom, and she cared. Back in the day. And she definitely appreciates it in her macbook now. You can appreciate it the most from the point of ownership :D

[@judehamer3727]

Totenglocke42 hey man that’s just for my daily driver, I have an actual desktop but have been using the MacBook for a few years now as my main laptop

[@wetturkey5381]

I leave my computer on all night to vacuum up all the dust in the house.

[@TheGamingBatmanNPC]

Same

[@wetturkey5381]

@@TheGamingBatmanNPC lol

[@teasay3135]

I use mine as a cooker

[@OctoMatoe]

I use mine to put the kids to sleep cause of the white noise

[@petenielsen6683]

Now that I live in a modern apartment instead of a 19th century house that's been made into apartments I will leave my computer on all the time this winter. Who needs electric heat when your octalcore works as well?

[@raul1899]

First upgrade: *HDD to SSD.* Biggest upgrade you can start with, ever.

[@rareram]

Expensive though, for example I just invested in nice new RAM. Got 16 now.

[@Puremindgames]

@@rareram RAM is not an SSD and they're not expensive at all anymore and I'm one of those who has to really think if I want it before spending £100+.

[@MrNicePotato]

@@rareram for a 16gb ram kit you could get a 500gb ssd for about the same price though

[@fartmerchant762]

@@rareram The SSD upgrade is far more substantial, you only need an SSD large enough for your OS to boot from to see a big difference

[@jahbones]

@@fartmerchant762 Ya but I wouldnt recommend anything smaller than a 250gb

[@slickstretch6391]

Can confirm: Moved my Windows install to an SSD and never looked back. Hands-down the best upgrade for your money if you're currently running Windows from a HDD.

[@FunniesRS]

how big of an ssd would I need to fit windows? cause I don't really wanna fork out a lot XD

[@slickstretch6391]

@@FunniesRS Microsoft says Windows 10 requires 16GB (32-bit) or 20GB (64-bit). But, keep in mind this is not taking into consideration any apps or games you might want to install, or Windows bloat. I wouldn't use anything smaller than 64GB. This is assuming you will use a different drive for storing things like pictures, music, movies, etc.

[@richardhowle8591]

Is it 2020? I installed my first ssd ten years ago.

[@richardhowle8591]

@@FunniesRS 250GB is the smallest I would go. You're gonna want to put most programs on it once you realize how fast it is. Use standard HDD's for storage.

[@FunniesRS]

@@richardhowle8591 I got a 250 and oh my word it's like magic😂😂

[@JoseAlfonsoChavez]

5:22 I bought and build my PC 3 years ago. 6600k, 1060 6G, 16GB ram.. the usual stuff, but I intentionally refused to buy an SSD because "it was not necessary for me". I lived with a 500GB 7200rpm OS HDD for one year and did it because "500GB for windows is OK" and I was also afraid of what people say that "SSD's fail" and all that bullcrap. One year after my purchase I bought a 250GB SSD for my computer and finally understood the benefits of having one as a boot drive, found out how quick and responsive my computer felt and man, the overall feeling of a faster computer. If you, due to some reason, have not made the purchase, I dare you to try. You will not regret it.

[@Totenglocke42]

People misunderstand what is being said when SSD "death" is mentioned. It's not that they randomly die, it's that they have a much more pre-determined lifespan than a HDD. The thing is that unless you're constantly reading and writing (and overwriting) massive amounts of data every day, that lifespan will be much longer than you'll have the computer for and you'll upgrade long before it dies.

[@Mdudeman13]

Jose Alfonso Chavez I was the same way, but for about 6 years, finally upgraded to an ssd when I went from windows 7 to 10. Wished I bought one sooner.

[@nulious]

It was mostly cost(price ber GB) that has held me back from SSDs. This past year the prices have come down a lot and now use them in my gaming/video editing PC, and I'm now thinking about swapping to an ssd in my HTPC.

[@skeletondoctor1026]

luckily i will be getting my first SSD soon. I'm getting excited to see how fast my pc will boot and startup games(that are on the SSD)

[@Timmycoo]

@@nulious Even m.2 SSD prices have gone down a crap ton. It's truly amazing what you can buy 1-2 tb SATA SSDs now too. Worth every penny!

[@mrgreatauk]

I remember years ago when I swapped out my laptop hdd for an ssd and it was like night and day - turned a slow mess of a pc that took 2 minutes to boot up into something that was legitimately smooth and nice to use! Probably the single best upgrade I have ever done and ever will do.

[@joncarter3761]

Convinced my friend to get an ssd a couple of days ago, he's still using a 1St gen i5 and he said it felt like a whole new rig.

[@hrayz]

I had a friend with an old system and very little budget. i5-650 (2 core 4 thread), got him to go with an SSD (just sata2 speeds) and the upgrade from a Radeon HD5650(1 GB) to a Radeon R9-280X(3GB). World of difference. Follow up, a year later with a bit of budget: Ryzen 2600X, 16 GB ddr4. Now the SSD ran at sata3. Next year: Radeon RX-580(8GB)

[@Planehazza]

Well said. This is what we say to people at work when they bring their 3 year old laptop in after saying "I want a new laptop, this one is slow. I have £500, recommend me something". I say give me £50; £30 for the SSD, £20 for my time, and I proceed to fit said SSD and reinstall their OS and files. They cannot believe how transformed their device is.

[@Planehazza]

@ahmed ghare Yup. My colleague and I have said for a couple of years now that we'll never buy a laptop without one again, unless of course, it's an otherwise great deal with good specs and we can easily swap out the marketing tool "2TB harddrive" for an SSD. Most people that buy laptops from PC World etc. don't understand the tech speak and therefor fall victim of all the market tools and mis-sellings by sales people.

[@harmonjp55]

@@Planehazza can we just copy the os from hdd to ssd or shud we do a fresh install.. . Also will just installing os in ssd be enough to feel the huge difference?

[@Planehazza]

@@harmonjp55 You could clone the existing setup from the HDD to the SSD, but personally I don't bother. Unless you really can't be bothered to, it's just healthier in my opinion to do a fresh install. From a good USB3 stick, Windows 10 will be at the desktop within 5-10 mins tops of first boot when installing to an SSD. Many people still run a small SSD just for OS and applications, but I prefer to have a 500GB SSD for everything. I'm starting to rely more on cloud storage for data/backups, thanks to a recent RAID 5 failure in my home server.

My old Computer: Struggles with Quake 1. Installed a SSD: *Runs Crysis on Ultra*

[@dantesinferno267]

?

[@richardhowle8591]

Yes, that spinning hard disc was the downfall of all gamers.

[@dantesinferno267]

@Cero Gero ili to ili previse ljudi prica nebitne stvari

[@HiiixImpakt]

that's not how that works. nice try though

[@doctahjonez]

I was about to try and roast you for that shitty joke but your comp's processor probably did that already.

[@sinoperture]

When I was really into building pcs and games in the mid 90's, a 10 year old computer was a different league. Today a 10 year old computer is still fine.

[@christophervanzetta]

Remember the '80's? I miss having 128MB of ram and 16GB hard drives

[@sinoperture]

@@christophervanzetta 80's? You're talking a mix of late 90's and early 2000's there with those specs.

[@jay1185]

@@sinoperture They mean 128K and 16MB lol

[@keithmuset6510]

Princess Peach I remember in 94 my uncle had a gateway Pentium 100 with a go hardrive and 128 mb ram. The 100 had just been released

[@robynofrye4311]

My partner is still using my midrange gaming rig from 10 years ago, still runs windows 10, enough to do her teacher work and skyping with students atm.

[@bwloawesome]

Mentions a task done in a video but doesn't mention the specific video said task was in. "If you haven't seen that video, go watch that one first..." Every other techtuber: Puts a link in either the description or the video. Jay: Go find it yourself.

[@livestricker]

I guess it's this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/inmveaaJmbxgbKM

[@politicallyincorrect4452]

I've been going more and more to linus, hes just turning into a douche

[@Abel-yq1yd]

@@politicallyincorrect4452 dude it happens.. it's not hard finding the video he's referring.

[@nonyabusiness665]

On behalf (not) of JayZTwoCents, I'm sorry that you can't take the 3 minutes to search his channel, or make the little effort to press the keys on your keyboard to search for it.

[@bwloawesome]

@@nonyabusiness665 that would be true if 90% of the time when he talks about something he did in another video he doesn't reference what the actual topic of what that video was. If he did, the title card wouldn't be necessary. Nice try though.

[@robertt9342]

2 years made a big difference at the time, going from Core 2 Quads to Sandybridge. The improvements were amazing, especially as programs moved to using more threads,

[@carlos1LE]

I just got my first SSD today and honestly i cant think of ever going back.

[@rup1u5]

That high FPS "sound effect" at 13:59 cracks me up every time! :D

[@jean-jacquesgrobler4148]

I ordered my SSD Yesterday. Getting it hopefully tomorrow. First time using an SSD. Can't wait. Was broke until now

[@adhamusa6270]

you'll be blown away, trust me

[@CarbonPhoenix96]

Make sure you disconnect the old drive before the fresh install on the ssd, or else it will need to wait on the old hdd for some system files and slow you down

[@wolfshanze5980]

You're a little late to the party but welcome to 2019!

[@hanyoukimura]

Once you try it, you'll never be able to back and wonder how you managed this long without one.

[@SirXtC]

im amazed how people still believe in hard drivers. my bosses pc its old and super slow, I suggested that I can upgrade his pc to an SSD, and even showed him vids and stuff and he liked it, but then the "IT Tech" guy said he can make it faster by just putting an external harddrive, transfer important stuff and wiping the Harddrive…. I was so....like...wtf lol

[@SupremeNerd]

Apparently that IT guy doesn't realize how number one SSDs are cheaper than they were 10y years ago and number two an external hard drive is nothing more than a Band aid that shouldn't be used for business... They don't benefit that's why no business users them and will use a NAS instead

[@SupremeNerd]

On top of that, i bet they also didn't increase RAM....16gb should be enough while 32gb is even better

[@SirXtC]

@@SupremeNerd for nornal office use 8gb is more than enough tho. They just use excel and a few chrome pages.

[@SupremeNerd]

@@SirXtC and if that's the case, you're right

[@EverybodyIsDeadDave]

@@SupremeNerd 8GB for home/office use, 16GB for gaming, 32GB+ if video editing too imo. Your point about external HDDs is spot on.

[@BakedPotatoYT1]

Just got a new PC and the SSD really improved the PC a lot. Only problem is that I can't get water while the PC is booting up because it's fast now I'm prone to dehydration.

[@zan7838]

_"Get thoRSty"_ - your PC, probably

[@Planehazza]

I can't believe that in 2019 some people are still arguing that an SSD is a bad idea.

[@hfdgrgsd4803]

im never ever gonna use a hdd again, my pc is 100% ssd now

[@killertruth186]

It's most likely they are getting the lowest quality SSDs.

[@WildStyle]

Sitting here pretty with my two M.2's, my old PC still has SSD's from 2012, perfectly fine and will continue to serve others as I am passing that PC down anyway.

[@sidewind131258]

Think about it, people still believe the earth is flat, and that Elvis is alive :O

[@jonathanwessner3456]

prices are falling, a 500 gb nvme for @ $50? and a 2.5" 1.5 tb ssd for under $150? 2 tb of storage and much faster than my old hdd systems

[@justinpatterson5291]

The first time I used an SSD. Was when I put together an i7 4770k rig. I was thoroughly amused at just how much of a difference it made. Normally, loading windows took a couple minutes. Then a few more to get into oblivion... Not with an SSD. I spent like 5 minutes just watching my computer open and close applications. Because I couldn't fathom how it was so damn responsive with just that one part.

[@landenbabeu9696]

Appreciate the advice, Jay! I got an old PC a few months ago, first upgrades were new PSU (old one was a suspicious grey box with some of the cables cut for some reason???) and an SSD. I was thinking about going for a new mobo/CPU/RAM, but now I'm gonna look at some newer-but-still-relatively-budget GPUs

[@mastaballa86]

Im building my 1st computer next week, but im currently using a PC i bought 10 years ago from a PC builder enthousiast. He built it with left over component at the time. Asus P5Q Pro Turbo/ intel core 2 Duo E8500/ EVGA 9800GT 1g

[@SpeedyJuggalo]

I envy people with Micro Center-esque stores near them... it sounds like a gold mine of readily available PC parts.

[@vicenteg7380]

Its like a porn addict going into a porn shop! Hate to go there when I have no money to spend in computer stuff.

[@connor040606]

Speedy_Valdruzîr micro center is awesome, their prices are often better than online places as well. I got my 4K 144hz monitor there for 1100 where as amazon wanted 1400.

[@bsxxfurballxx692]

Yes and no.... cpus yeah but most of the stuff is kinda over priced. Thank god for price matching.

[@ThePhenom65]

I don't recommend going to one. You'll get to demo the IPS 4K 144hz Freesync monitors and you'll see the price tag and you'll run out of the store in tears. It's just embarrassing and totally didn't happen to me.

[@elquuu]

Yeah well I just drove 128km(80miles) to get a sata cable so would have been nice to have shops around :)

[@wildcat1998able]

YT recommended this to me I never experienced an SSD. 22 years of my life I never experienced that Reason: Money.

[@MercedesMan]

Get a 120 gb for $25 to start w than

[@Abrar-mp6pe]

Its dirt cheap now

[@DanJackielz]

I'd buy a 240 GB even for start because a 120 will fill up really quick even with a few programs and even that its just so cheap

[@Repavich]

even a sandisk 1TB SSD is around 100 bucks.... thats not that insane

[@kanaka118446]

I got a SanDisk 128gb ssd for $25

[@mikkokuorttinen3113]

Completely agree with the ssd swap upgrade! I'm still using my 2.gen core i3 laptop with ssd and 8 gig dual channel mem upgrades for 4 years now. And this laptop is faster to work with than some brand new laptops with hdd at my work

[@peterl.104]

I’ve been running an Intel Q9450 + ASRock P45X3 Deluxe in an Antec Sonata III for over 10 years and it’s working mostly great especially after I installed a GTX 1060 in 2016 but installing a SSD feels like almost a waste and I’m itching to build a new PC and I don’t want to buy more old RAM for it. This video really speaks to me. Thanks!

[@dingleburry7919]

That box represents the golden age of gaming and mmos, and the epicness of the wild wild west of the internet. How i miss those days 😭😭😭 Or ~15 years ago. Whatev

[@17Codiferus]

Facebook is 15 years old (KZbin is 14), and the 'wild wild west' of the internet was dead (or at least dying) 5 or 10 years before they showed up. Time flies.

[@silversolver7809]

I'd say the WWW of the internet died with the Dot Com crash in 2000.

[@johngaltline9933]

That is a weird statement. Sure, golden age of MMORPGS and such, but the Wild west of the internet? That was well over with a good 5 years before, and even then it was like just hanging on in places, with most of what we know today already in place. If you want the real wild of the web you have to get back to the mid 90's at least.

[@melvinhans1844]

Wild internet def died in the early 2000s

[@dunnst]

I'd say golden days of gaming were in the 90s. Q3 Arena, Diablo I, Starcraft and that stuff :-D

[@spamoslamo8412]

In 2009 Core i7 920 was IT! ... what you've got there is more than 10 years old (although maybe purchased in 2009)

[@LukasXavier]

I have a dell precision, unknowing to what Jay recommends, I first upgrade my power supply from those sketchy gray ones, then my GPU and got an SSD for boot. I planed to then go and upgrade the MoB, ram, and CPU. This just felt like an intuitive upgrade path.

[@Pasi123]

Dell Precision is a series of high end workstations so the power supply is a really high quality one even though it's gray. Some workstations use non-standard power connectors and weirdly shaped PSU's so they can't be replaced with a standard ATX power supply.

[@thealien_ali3382]

@@Pasi123 agreed

[@Atreea]

dell oem psus are decent, oems dont need fancy black box psu

[@peterfuentes5893]

Can't believe people actually think that about SSDs. SSDs are life-changing.

[@lXxMARINxXl]

I have become death, the destroyer of hard drives.

[@michaelsousa7702]

I wonder how many people here know the origin of that quote and I'm not talking Oppenheimer.

[@AlecLeigh]

those hybrid drives legit made a difference with big performance gains. I have used 3 since 2010 (i think). Big games, small games, Adobe, etc etc, it made a huge difference compared to a normal 7200rpm. From my own research the cache had an algorithm that saw which files were accessed the most, and kept them. Start ups were always lightning fast.

[@TheMagnay]

No they don't, I used a seagate 2tb sshd for 3 years and no difference, put in a 250gb Kingston ssd with a 1tb hdd and massive improvements over the hybrid. The caches are mostly 8gb each, that's absolutely tiny. That's what mine had and is pretty common among them, in order to get a decent one you have to pay more then a ssd hdd combo anyway. Are you sure there wasn't something else at play here?

[@AlecLeigh]

@@TheMagnay Ofcource SSDs are faster, but with the 3 different hybrids I had, it legit made a huge difference for me compared to a conventional 7200rpm. All 3 had 7, 8 and w10. Like I said, from my own research, that 8GB buffer algorithm saw which files were used the most, and held on to them.

[@TheMagnay]

@@AlecLeigh i think you miss understood, about 3 to 4 years ago i was running replaced my old computer with a high end lenovo with a samsung 2tb sshd and it had absolutely no difference in speed. the problem is that 8gb nanflash is just way too small, think about it how much can you really fit on 8gb. it is not enough to do anything at all on. the only time i can think when it may help is with page file swaps, however if you need to access that much page file then you are running out of ram way too much and increasing that will give you a much bigger performance hit. it is just a stupid idea that is just a gimmick

[@AlecLeigh]

@@TheMagnay well if you used that SSHD as a secondary drive then it would be understandable that you wouldn't have any performance gains cause all the data you access is too random for the algorithm to cache long term. Or you just had a faulty SSHD. Or a SSHD with a very slow cache. Or I was lucky.

[@TheMagnay]

@@AlecLeigh actually it was my only drive, as of right now i am going to be using it as a second data drive cause it is 2tb and still have some life but no if i have a 2tb drive i will either partition it or just have one drive. i don't think cause it is fault either cause i looked it up on user bench mark and it was all over the shop and being Samsung their quality control is actually really good. it might be cause of usage. i am a massive PC gamer and that is my primary use, i do also study but that is just tiny word docs and stuff. i just checked the list of best mechanical drives and the highest sshd is 6th with seagate mechanical drives at the top. hdd.userbenchmark.com/Seagate-Desktop-SSHD-2TB/Rating/1783 hdd.userbenchmark.com/

[@vondutch8651]

9:13 So the Terminator was Luke's father???

[@Dazzxp]

Yeah I thought that too "Luke I am your father" in a arnold schwarzenegger voice

[@JudgmentSigma]

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME THING!!! XD XD XD

[@Puremindgames]

Damn straight.

[@abishekmurali9187]

🤣🤣🤣

[@stefanejegod8644]

Nah, he's just scrambling his voice. Jay is just Luke Lafreniere's father. I mean look at how taaaall they both are. Dead giveaway!

[@negosales80]

i remember playing COD MW3 at 40fps and getting MOAB on all my games, now im playing MW at 100 fps and i cant get even 2 kills in a row.........

[@acrylex4663]

:(

[@FuzzyChubbyPurpleUnicorn]

Warzone life my friend lol

[@alkohallick2901]

Skill gap

[@AlexS-sc3gb]

Time to set the FPS limiter to 40!

[@sirwes2924]

It's because we are used to CRT monitors which were instant frames with no delays. I've noticed that i'm not nearly as good as i used to be and It all started with my first LCD.

[@ShieyV2komputroniks]

My friend laughed at me when i installed a ssd in my core2quad pc , but damn it speeded up too the point where games run

[@alexoelkers2292]

He shouldn't of laughed at you, that's the first thing I would of done if I had a PC like that.

[@harryshuman9637]

I have SSD in my Windows 98 retro build 😅 Speed up is a speed up, no shame in that.

[@ThePlushTux]

I love the full-length isa supports in this case.

[@earlsjrcomputer5208]

im playing 15 year old gaming pc, solitare still work perfectly

[@robertturnip7850]

A top shelf 10 year old PC would still hold its own right now, as long as you upgrade the video card, install an SSD and maybe increase the RAM. The i7 was definitely out 10 years ago which is still a good CPU.

[@plushpc5992]

Dont even have to watch this vid to know what he's going to upgrade lol

[@matvex829]

You must be heaps intelligent

[@FranciscoRodriguez-fr3uc]

He put rgb to squeeze the last 10fps out of the system

[@lilietto1]

@@FranciscoRodriguez-fr3uc lol

[@vedomedo]

How can anyone believe that HDD is better than an SSD in 2019

[@MikeHedges1993]

they dont think its better, they probably think its safer, which is also wrong, but you can't fix stupid!

[@StefKRah]

Cause u would have 1 tb of space instead of 240 gb for same price and all you have to do is go to the toiled while the computer turns on lol !

[@johiahdoesstuff1614]

@@StefKRah ACtually with smaller sizes costs are similar, HDD only pulls ahead in cost efficiency when you get more than a terabyte on a single drive.

[@qT_p13]

It isnt better, they just each have their own place in a system.

[@ReubenAStern]

Only better in theory. When I used HDDs they were constantly dying on me. I've has three samsung SSDs in RAID 0 for nearlt ten years, and it's still fast.

[@platdujour]

"I'll put a link to that in the description below maybe"

[@aaronberrett]

Its just the homepage. Guess I have to find it myself thanks!

[@mromutt]

@@aaronberrett haha its even his affiliate link XD

[@thomasalexander9136]

Jay Bad..get it sorted ffs

[@artfuldodger9312]

It is always a bittersweet moment when I have to upgrade my old PC. When you have had a system for the better part of 10 years, it is hard to say good-bye to an old friend. I get very low when I am building my new system knowing that very soon I will have to dismantle my old PC ready for resale on Ebay.

[@DiamondkeyOwO]

That is why I keep them as a collection for nostalgia trips

[@lexustech48]

after using Intel SSDs for the last 6 years, I finally switched to the M.2 master race. I cant even imagine using a traditional platter style HDD anymore.

[@Sorain1]

Now I want to see that comparison...

[@SirAser.F__k.you.Google]

Well.. having like 8TB+ of data... I can come up with a pair of reasons...! That said, I also use SSD as bootup-drive ..but old fashion HHD for raw databank. But I'm defiantly lookin into the M.2 - find it very promising. But that's for my next project/upgrade

[@Sorain1]

@@SirAser.F__k.you.Google HHD's cost to storage ratio means it's going to remain a go-to solution for a long time. Until SSD's come down in price/size quite a bit they are here to stay. Especially since the read speed of HHD is fast enough for a lot of jobs like video watching, music, images and documents that are large chunks of the storage pie.

[@DrSpaceman42]

Praise the m.2 lords

[@depth386]

The real test of a HDD vs SSD is updating Windows. Takes hours sometimes.

[@uncannyfox]

Yup! For me the routine was click 'INSTALL', go out with some friends to eat and chat, come back home and have Windows ALMOST be done installing.

[@SkullAngel002]

Oh I remember the Win XP days when a fresh install (in preparation for or during a LAN party) took over 45 minutes on a CD-ROM. And that's not counting a full IDE HDD format, Service Pack, and game images & mods installation.

[@80sBaby925]

@@SkullAngel002 or the agro of disc compatibility with disc drives and burn speeds.

[@MastaSquidge]

Meanwhile in 2019 windows 10 on a 3.0 USB port to ssd takes like 30 minutes from start to desktop lol

[@squidwardo7074]

pretty sure that's mostly your download speed dummy

[@righteousone8454]

That case actually has a shroud though, impressive.

[@Jusdagamer]

saw 3 clips you made (this is the 4th) and just went "ok this guy is good and talks about upgrandes with testing, all that i want for comparison". Thanks man really needed a video like this. Keep up the good work. Just pressed the button ;)

[@mdrumt]

8GB ram will really boost system performance too, if you can get the ram cheap.

[@eisenklad]

4GB sticks of DDR2 isnt cheap when that system was new or now. and boards back then rarely had 4 ram slots either. it was still the Era of Win2k or WinXP which was 32-bit and could only use 3.25GB of ram. most home users were running 1GB of ram. my core2Duo system was 1gb at first paired with a Ati HD5670, adding another 1gb ram. i was running winXp with no actual reason to have more than 4GB of ram, 4GB sticks was more of server/business hardware. to find those now is hard since only people doing retro-builds or business running legacy system would pay a decent amount for working DDR2. you might find some at a thrift/recycling store if you are lucky

[@Atreea]

4gb ddr2 sticks are rare & not cheap, a 4 slot board 8gb makes more sense but a 2 slot board 8gb build makes no sense price wise for ddr2

[@thomasr7129]

Is it just me or was there a problem finding good DDR2 memory? Have had several used systems in for possible upgrade, and they never became stable. Could of course be related to Voltage, as these require 1.8V or more to operate, putting a strain on the motherboard and possible PSU. (This problem didn't apply to laptops, though - I have upgraded many systems adding RAM and replacing HDD in favor of SSD. )

[@mdrumt]

@@eisenklad eisenklad well aware of all your points here. I have had the same core 2 system since 2006 now with a q9550, I think a lot of boards have 4 slots (not Jay's by the looks) so often it is possible to get a full 8gb with 2gb sticks which I have in mine since going to windows 7 then 10, and it is very helpful for modern operating system to have that much. I know ddr2 is expensive and that's why I put in my comment "if you can find it cheap enough", it's well worth it and make the system much more responsive. I didn't notice his board only had 2 slots.

[@mdrumt]

@@Atreea of course, I didn't notice it only had two slots, it's a budget board which is limiting

[@Cobalt322009]

"The only people who say that are those who have never experienced an SSD" - Absolutely correct. The single biggest upgrade you can make to an old computer is to swap the mechanical drive for an SSD. Period.

[@draenoss]

This is how I upgraded my i7 2600k system, thank you Jay for validating my upgrade path :)

[@trje246]

lol that's what i'm running still now.

[@Kltysver]

@@trje246 this is what I am running currently too. lol, though to be fair I did build it with 2 ssd's in raid 0 from the start. must be why I am just now looking at upgrading. It's been a really good system.

[@trje246]

@@Kltysver been a fantastic system indeed, more or less the computer that got me into computers (so to speak). first time i'd researched parts and such, exciting process. Alas, that was many moons ago. i'll probably cop some flack for this but... i'm still rockin' windows 7 to! lol

[@petermirtitsch1235]

I just finished a nice gaming build for my daughter's birthday, and while I was waiting for the SSDs to arrive, I just hooked up a spinning rust drive. It started and ran well, after I installed Windows and Steam. When the SSD arrived....wow. Booting up and closing down, transformed. I tried "Rust", and the difference it made, just getting into gameplay, slashed. SSDs make sense, especially with the price now.

[@justinshatto5053]

Great Upgrades. I love making zombie computers. The older the Parts the cheaper and more fun.

[@brianterrill9587]

OMG SSD's are awesome! Just compare boot times. That alone won me over!

[@akahee22]

I literally got my first ssd this summer feelsgoodman 😂

[@Mustanggt505]

same i got my first one a couple of months ago even though my pc had intel optane to speed up the boot the ssd was wayy faster I love it ill never go back

[@imo098765]

I got my SSD in mid 2017, it was expensive but I have never regretted that purchase

[@nelsonechevarria7009]

I don't understand how you got thumbs down for this video because you are completely on point in this video.I decided to build a new desktop PC because my other half told me that we'd be better off if I built a new PC and like me she saw and was amazed at the performance boost we got when I swapped out the HDD drive for an SSD drive and the old video card for a new one on our previous prebuilt desktop PC which we keep as a backup PC.

[@omgilovesteak6484]

I am addicted to this channel. Reminds me of the old Screen Savers show that i loved. \o/

[@furiousone942]

Amen on the SSD upgrade. I've lost count of the SSD upgrades I've done for customers.

[@tomr3422]

General Snappiness - Captain Jays Brother that is in the Army

[@antonyisherwood4164]

Ive upgraded my laptop from a HDD to a SSD and upgraded a 4GB RAM to a 8GB RAM including applying some new heat sink paste and general cleaning.... Wow i must say its soooo much quicker and soooo quiet... The fan barely comes on even when running alot of data. Definitely reconmended those still using HDD to upgrade to a SSD 👍

[@ericramos3589]

After using SSD for once, every other HDD PC seems very slow.

[@elemkay5104]

Everyone's talking about the SSD upgrade... no-one noticed that he stuck a RX570 in there and turned a 10 year old PC into a competent gaming rig. You could get an $80 GTX 970 off ebay and get the same results. I picked up a i5 3470 PC the other day for £60 with PSU and RAM. Gets about 90% performance of the Ryzen 2200G at stock settings. Costs about 80% less. Sometimes I think people enjoy throwing their money away...

[@syfico]

@@elemkay5104 If I'm going to be honest I have two arguments as to why I won't/can't do that, reason one and two being connected. First, it is substantially harder to find these deals outside of the US (you'll know why, tax, shipment, etc.). Two, I'm someone who doesn't have a lot of money (I'm not an adult) and therefore I can't quite put my faith into getting what I paid for, or getting anything at all. I also don't know why I felt like responding to your comment but, yeah.

[@NandoCapone]

@@syfico look for a dell optiplex with an i5 and throw in a better power supply and a GTX 970 it'll be about a 250-300 build that will last

[@gemsstr7933]

I went back to an older computer that had a hdd, and wowwww it was slow even with booting. I sat through it all thinking how the hell did I live like this? lol

[@aaronosborne4906]

My commodore 64 booted instantly! Just don't ask about loading games. :(

[@gemsstr7933]

@@aaronosborne4906 lol that's great

[@nevadahamaker7149]

When I upgraded from a hard drive to my first SSD, it was a life-changing experience.

[@1pcfred]

An SSD improved my boot time but it doesn't speed up anything else.

[@FURYBrenton]

@@1pcfred lol totally 🤦

[@karlabunns]

@@1pcfred if u say so lol

[@1pcfred]

@@karlabunns just what happened here. I was hoping for some kind of a performance boost like I heard about but it didn't happen. I don't think the SSD I have is very fast. It is quiet, I'll give it that.

[@1pcfred]

@@FURYBrenton you run Linux too? Thing is I kept hearing from Linux users that SSDs were awesome. Next PC I'm definitely getting one of them NVMe drives. Those I hear are fast.

[@jimhizon844]

Hi, I live in Manila, big fan of your videos. I didn't know you had this video up while I was doing a DIY upgrade on my 10-year-old rig, so after watching this, I must say that I'm relieved that we considered the same things. Before I did the upgrade/makeover, my old rig rolled with an AMD 4100 FX, 2GB*2 DDR3, a 1TB HDD @3500 RPM, and a Radeon 5670 1GB video card. All of those are inside this sad looking mATX case with two 60mm fans. Playing games with it after 2016 felt like watching a Powerpoint presentation. I gave up on it that year partly because I thought I outgrew gaming. I still used it for the occasional Word and Excel stuff, but beyond that, it mostly stayed idle. Then, the lockdowns happened here, and I got stuck at home. I got tired of watching Netflix after two weeks, so to switch things up, I turned to my old PC, and then I remembered it still sucked the moment I switched it on. I needed to play some of the newer games, but going for a new build was out of the question for a lot of reasons. So, with a budget of $200 and lots of spare time, I scoured the internet for bargain parts. After a couple of months, I managed to score a 4GB RX580 and a 240GB SSD. On top of those I also maxed out the RAM to 16GB, I did a CPU cooler fan upgrade, got a smaller and more stylish mATX case that allowed for more airflow, and bought myself a set of RGB fans and LED strips for kicks. Yes, I got all those for $200, because I was patient. Now, my old rig that cost me $800 to build about a decade ago now feels like $800 again. It's so worth it. I do have a question. I considered upgrading my AMD 4100 FX to a 8300 FX (which I could get for $55), but I thought that my old processor was still working fine, and I'll most likely build myself a brand new rig a few years from now. I decided against going ahead with the processor upgrade. Would you have done the same?

[@krazycharlie]

Jayz: "Luke, I am your father!" (9:12) Luke: "Predator Frostcore!"

[@onlytrueanonymousfanszzzzzz]

I'm old school and I've got two Harddrives and one SSD inside of my system used for the boot drive.

[@mr.farrowsclass6592]

That's how I built both my kids' computers. A 128gb SSD boot drive and then most storage on HDDs. Since they're 8&12 I bought the parts on eBay spending maybe $40 total per machine for the SSD and 1tb HDD.

[@Recals]

i still run on my 64gb vertex 3 from 2011.

[@JapaneseSoomi]

@@mr.farrowsclass6592 you have lucky children

[@daanwilmer]

"'Hard drives are perfectly fine' - the only people who say that are people that have never experienced an SSD" And Apple, apparently, with their base model iMacs all having a 1TB SATA hard drive at 5400rpm. Yes, 5400, not 7200 or 10000. You need to pay them $200 to get a 256GB SSD instead of spinning rust (which is crazy when the Samsung 860 evo costs $110 for a terabyte).

[@benjaminshtark5977]

thats how they make money, its called "upsale" i would just buy their 1TBHDD mac and install 512GB SSD myself, its quite easy to replace harddrive in iMac..

[@christophervanzetta]

Stupid iSheep 🤣

[@JonBoy470]

I have an old Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop. Circa 2008, and it wasn’t particularly high-end when new, with only a Pentium T2330. I upgraded the RAM to 4GB, and slapped a 120GB Inland SSD for a total of ~$40, then loaded Windows 10 for the Lulz. It’s actually useable to the point I keep it as a spare for my kids to use for online school.

[@teetar1751]

Omg just put in my first ssd, went from 2 mins boot to full loading, to 11 seconds ! To the desktop, on a new ryzen system, Omg I'm sold on ssd best way to speed up a pc.

[@AlexBell1991]

SSD's are the best way to go in terms of improving your computer's speed. I recently installed one in a 5 year old HP laptop. It runs like it's brand new. I also got my old desktop with me so I am gonna order an SSD then look into upgrading the graphics card (based on what my current motherboard allows).

[@dehRibeiro87]

i still use lga775 with a Xeon x5470 adapted, overclocked to 4,1 GHz mobo: P5P43TD PRO, with 16gb ddr3 can run almost anything with a GTX1080

[@neddy1287]

Nice setup mine is Xeon e5450 @ 3.60ghz, Asus p5q premium, 4x 2gb gskill f2-8500-2gbpk, Asus gtx 1050 ti oc expedition esport model. Did overclock the e5450 to 4.46ghz just to see will it take it :)

[@venix20]

@@neddy1287 at 4.46 24/7 ? high chance your motherboards vrm with it :P 3.6 would be fine though :P

[@neddy1287]

@@venix20 this was done on Asus p5q deluxe i only got that far to see where the CPU either hit the wall or fsb wall but wasn't stable no matter what voltages or settings I set in bios it just falls flat on it face. But did break my personal record on cinebench r15 which was 504cb

[@zarmaanful]

@@neddy1287 DUDE WHAT VOLTS?!

[@zarmaanful]

@@neddy1287 I CAN'T SEEM TO PUSH MY Q9650 WELL!

[@winteronice]

I got a Mobo, extra RAM, SSD and videocard for less than $200. Changed the geriatric to mainstream. I mean, its still old and i did it wrong to no further upgrade path, but still good. Ofcourse it did not increase the value at all monetery wise. FX6100, 12GB of RAM at 1066mhz, 128gb M.2 and a RX550 is the current setup.

[@DrearierSpider1]

7:20 I get where you're coming from, but you can get 8GB as cheap as $20-$30 these days, and 16GB of 3000 or 3200 for $50.

[@sidhantjasrotia220]

really didn't listen did you

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

More like 16gb ddr3 for 80 dollars

[@miroslavairaldi725]

Maybe in US, over here is like 150$ for 16gb

[@DrearierSpider1]

@@miroslavairaldi725 I made this comment 4 months ago dude. We've had this minor issue of a *global fucking pandemic* that may have slightly caused supply issues and driven up prices.

[@DrearierSpider1]

@@sidhantjasrotia220 His pricing information was just plain inaccurate, wft are you talking about?

[@ghosty0528]

A looong video about the fact ssd makes boot faster? Amazing!

[@PrimusDiabolus]

Yes, a really _looooooong_ video.

[@candiedskull9841]

Currently watching this on my own 10 year old computer while troubleshooting on my new gaming computer

[@JapaneseSoomi]

Luxky 😂

[@AthenaKeatingThomas]

I put an SSD in my old desktop and it went from booting while I made and leisurely drank my coffee, to booting after I took my next breath. I promptly got one for my old laptop too. Awesome!

[@TommyAngelo1337]

That card is a tank.

[@3mKay]

i was one of the guys that think SSDs are overrated as I was poor at that time and the space tradeoff didnt seem reasonable. but once i build my first pc, and use a SSD, it blew my mind

[@deandejaguar]

Just wait till you try an M.2 ...

[@3mKay]

@@deandejaguar i did, i have a Samsung PM981 as my boot drive

[@triponthemoon233]

i put 8 mb IDE SSD on my 486 computer, to this day i use this old machine for car wheel alignment. from Hungary :)

[@godofm3tal1]

ssd for the win. can't be overstated. the difference is unimaginable.

[@unknown-x-1777]

Yeah I was amazed how much faster an ssd was. I literally started upgrading everyone's computer at my office

[@Mattja1]

Tbh a smart investment. Everytime I call a business or go in somewhere that uses computers at the checkout they have to keep pausing to wait for the computer to load the next thing, I bet chucking a 128 or 256GB SSD at it would save an hour of accumulated down-time over the day per computer for some places.

[@rexy_1000]

I installed an ssd yesterday. Instant Perfomance increase.

[@AllenJackson1]

That was a really long walk for “if you haven’t heard of SSDs....”

[@timmywashere1164]

I scrolled through the comments looking for the video referenced to, but not linked to, at the very beginning of the video. Thanks for saving me watching two videos.

[@amolpatre3303]

@@timmywashere1164 g

[@amolpatre3303]

@@timmywashere1164 g

[@amolpatre3303]

Ggg

[@amolpatre3303]

Fg

[@zombee38]

I upgraded the RAM from 2GB to 6 and the 250GB standard hard drive to 500GB ssd on a MACbook 2009 and it did wonders it feels like a new machine ...it now boots in 20secs from the previous 2mins and everything opens quickly and not on seconds ... totally worthy upgrade.

[@ultraopgamer8076]

6:08 it's not really light years, it's just about 30cm as far as i can see.

[@FallenPasha]

Short version : keep the case and PSU and replace the rest. Alternative : turn it into a home server running a nas.

[@GES1985]

They got rid of psu first. Lol

[@Shane-Singleton]

9:12 When you find out that Darth Vader was really Arnold Schwarzenegger

[@trausic]

"Who is your daddy, and what does he do?"

[@Shane-Singleton]

@@trausic "Our mom says our dad is a real sex machine"

[@mrburns366]

@@trausic There IS NO BATHROOM!

[@KenkyoWalbert]

I'm fucking dead 🤣🤣

[@simonmunden5046]

I totally agree with Jay on all this. 1, buy and fit an ssd as a boot drive. It doesn’t have to be gig or expensive, it just has to handle the system while your old hdd takes all your games and data. 1a, learn how to use Windows to your benefit - how install folders, games & apps to your hdd and keep the ssd mean & clean. 2, update your gpu (& psu) to whatever is within your limit. 3, upgrade your ram & cpu using secondhand parts. Check your motherboard chipset and get the fastest cpu that works that you can afford (I looked to do this for a friend; the fastest cpu was literally five times the price of the next-fastest cpu, so shop around). Try for 8gb, 16 will be too inaccessible. 4, enjoy the results and comment here with your costs!

[@Nekminute]

OG cable management, as in non existent 😅

[@calvinwalker4654]

Cable management is just for looks. I don't think glass panels were a thing back then. At least I don't remember seeing anyone's PC with one.

[@gremfive4246]

@@calvinwalker4654 Glass panels were not a thing back then but Acrylic windows have been around forever, I had a Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA and that came out in 2004.

[@dangchis]

Calvin Walker, I somewhat disagree. Horrible cable management could lead to high temperatures due to the fan blocked by the cables. So, the management should somewhat be reasonable.

[@corkhead0]

No fan is going to be blocked by a tiny SATA cable.

[@dangchis]

corkhead0 Cable management isn’t just a SATA cable, it’s every “cable.” PCIe, SATA cables, etc. If it was just a lousy SATA cable, then you’re fine

[@cjwrecks7418]

7:28 8gb of dual channel now is like 45$ and 16gb (2 x 8gb) (My personal preference) is only 65$

[@tristanweide]

I got 16gb of gskill aegis for $45 on Newegg. 3000 mhz

[@Chriva]

I think that board has DDR2? Pretty much impossibruh to find sticks over 2 gig a pop

[@Streetbikerider83]

i went from a hd to an ssd like 4 years ago. never went back and never will

[@butlerwm]

I like your videos. I’ll never own another high or even mid-level gaming PC. But I still like playing stuff like WoWs. I left IT behind over a decade ago and have continued to upgrade a 2nd Gen i7. It’s nice to see my choices of video and SSD are the same as used in this video. Keep up the good work.

[@metlingaming9162]

"They dont makem like this anymore" yeah, cause they make them better 😂

[@TheEntireUniverse]

“Definitely watch that video first” - doesn’t provide a link to the video. :(

[@d2ricci]

Complains about lack of link - Doesn't provide the same link :)

[@PlinkyVR]

Imagine not being able to go to his channel and go find it

[@robertpepperwolfe7256]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/inmveaaJmbxgbKM

[@advaitpathak4330]

@@robertpepperwolfe7256 The real hero. People who act on it rather than complain.

[@kanishka.b8550]

Same

[@coinsagE46m3]

I would have loved to have seen the CPU usage while you were playing lfd2

[@yambo59]

You convinced me a long time ago and I went to Samsung SSD's in three of my computers, mainly because you know way more than I do and youre a trusted channel. My ancient Toshiba satellite laptop was the first to get an SSD and it now runs like a new machine. My other two pc's same story, MUCH better "speed feel" and no antiquated hard drive noises every time I click on something. I gearing up for my last build and it will be my first M.2 NVME if all goes well, really looking forward to that one.

[@johncapidecallu8076]

The boot time with the old hdd was fast because probably "fast startup" was enabled in the "Power options" menu. To test the real speeds you just need to restart the system.

[@bananya6020]

yeah, I'm surprised they wouldn't catch something so simple. Hibernation (basically fast startup) ≠ shutdown

[@Lurker-dk8jk]

My thoughts, exactly.

[@KinseySS]

I had a Q6600 still when Overwatch came out and was barely playable, I put it on an SSD and I got 60 FPS no problem.

[@windowsfanboy5782]

Same with CS: GO

[@iftekharsafi4861]

Storage has nothing to do with game fps tho

[@waveformdistortion]

Wait for another horse to eat the flower and then beat that horse too.

[@headbangerdnb]

Nah he's gonna beat that dead horse until he gets his 4TB memory

[@riotangel4701]

As a person who's gone through many computers and many hard disk _failures_ , I've been relying on Acronis True Image for nearly two decades to backup _complete images_ of my disks. At any moment any disk breaks, I buy a new disk, restore image to it, and boom, ready go where I left off. That has also let me upgrade to SSDs with OS and programs intact without having to reinstall Windows ever. The only more technical tweak I had to perform during the upgrade was the different byte alignment issue with SSD for optimal performance. The OS is a single-install life of Windows Vista -> 7 -> 8 -> 8.1 -> 10 to this very day through not just multiple disk failures but also multiple motherboard failures. Full-disk backup software - well worth the money.

[@CVNTGETENOUGH]

I feel like one day we will have 4 TB of ram when holographic movies will be the standard 🤞🏼

[@jeccf5072]

we'll die sooner

[@NitrousDragon]

To be honest, when my parents were buying their first PC, I actually remembered them telling me: (while chucking) "Gosh, I'll probably never use all 4mb of ram."

[@CVNTGETENOUGH]

@@NitrousDragon I remember buying a 512 MB microSD for my PSP as a kid and thinking I was set for life lol

[@flameshana9]

I recall buying my first hard drive and saying " _Ten gigabytes?_ I'll never fill it all up." Now I download 10 gigs a day when I use my computer.

[@NitrousDragon]

@@flameshana9 in today's gaming world 10gb is a medium/small game... By comparison anyway. I remember seeing them at 5-6gb and thinking "wow, thats big".

[@mbtech2003]

I’m still running a amd phenom2 555. Lol. I had 2 4670hd cards in it but one died. So I have a r7 in it now.

[@rubyvolt]

I like how my 486 performs with its CF adapter. It does the same for what you did for this machine.

[@-eMpTy-]

Should've thrown in a 771 to 775 modded Xeon like the x5450 for ~$15

[@zarmaanful]

Would you believe me if i said that i paid 40 USD for Q9650(3ghz 12mb 1333fsb)?

[@SudosFTW]

this. mod tapes are stupid cheap and the xeons even cheaper. jay's probably just a coward. the board is G41, it supports all the Xeons with a 1333MHz FSB. X5460 would be perfect in there.

[@zarmaanful]

@@SudosFTW I personally have used a 1333FSB chip in a G41 motherboard(P5P41T LE). BTW AliExpress has premodded drop-in ready 771 CPUs for dirt cheap!

[@benjaminargus9563]

@@SudosFTW xeons make great upgrades for older boards for sure, x58 is prime for that too

[@mashirohakase]

Why pay? By doing the FSB pad mod u can get the Q9400 to outperform a X5450 and u wont spend a dime