How To Make BIG Money From COAL! - Victoria 3

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[@loaytarek135]

The best thing about paradox games when you play them for the first time is you have no idea what is going on at first then go to KZbin learn close to nothing comback to the game and repeat until you get somewhat good

[@vinpap779]

Decided to play as Low Canada in my first game Everything was going decently well, sorry I didn't understand most mechanics... And then I suddenly started losing 35k weekly with no idea how to fix it, so I debt spiraled until I left the game

[@justinchase6666]

I mean he dint go over how to stop Britain from cutting you down a size after you take all of South America as Brazil.

[@mufarisfa3939]

@@vinpap779 full paradox experience

[@umbraetlux]

@@vinpap779 paradox moment

[@deusvult6920]

@@vinpap779 I went bankrupt as Sweden in the tutorial my first game. I went bankrupt super fast. I think I built too many construction things lol

[@moyandong6702]

I like how each paradox game, based on their time setting, actually have different focus in gameplay like how it should be. The things that matter and should be microed in Ck can be ignored in EU etc. one thing all paradox do share in common is that you would feel being hit by your head with a stick the first time you play 😂

[@jaskim5723]

A stick the size of a sequoia

[@loaytarek135]

the real common thing is how they are able to have the ability to revive the roman empire in any time period

[@QuangHoang-ps3mm]

Or Norse countries low key OP.

[@respomanify]

While it should not have gone HOI4 military movement route (or old HOI3 system), I think fronts should definitely have more control and thought. Probably you could draw fronts, allocate supplies but do not have individual stacks for example. Maybe even supply system could be worked in, where you provide buildings to transport them in distance (those logistics). System would be strategic and abstract, but at the same time, it would be serious economic and logistic task simulation.

[@SmallPotato2313]

@@respomanify people usually struggle with logistics as it is right now soo idk if it would make the game better :D

[@FeedbackIRL]

CORRECTION: You did get a economy of scale bonus for construction sectors. So DO stack them

[@SmallPotato2313]

Also build them in states u want to build/expand your industry in cuz it makes it easier and better to build there (duh)

[@smlgd]

They also give construction efficiency bonus for all constructions in that state so it might be worth it to spread them in the states you plan to build on

[@williamladine7591]

@@smlgd better to stack them in one state and make a mega state. With the most peasants available.

[@fabriziocossio3336]

A 22 minute video explained more about Victoria 3 economy than 3 hour long guides Cheers man for a perfectly good guide

[@Corium1]

plus it's also properly edited too, just gets to the point faster

[@Hatsuzu]

"Build guys just build, nothing bad happened In the 19th century only good thing definitely era of peace and human Innovation dedicated to peace"

[@arentak2773]

You can create some instant domestic coal demand by changing your city centers to use lighting. I learned about scale (dont build 1 coal in each state, build in same state til maxxed) and decree throughput(which stacks nicely with scale for smaller nations). Thanks for the lesson!

[@Trebonds]

Super great video! Very detail heavy, but love how you keep the speed up, and just explain and show what your doing, and why .. and .. then just get on with the next thing. And love how you take each "problem" that rise and explain how to solve it.

[@SmallPotato2313]

I love that he tells u straightaway how to.fix the problems as they occur

[@tjardon]

Please more! Easily the most instructive of the early Vicky 3 videos I’ve seen. Thanks, Dave.

[@tempest9691]

better guide than 99.9% others, good shit dude

[@MrMithgroth]

Wonderful video Dave, we need MORE of it. Radicals seems to be a big issue with high taxes but as far as I understand, there might be nothing much we can do about them in the long run.

[@SuperND87]

Best guide I’ve seen for Vic 3. Thanks!!!

[@marcellommunoz]

thanks dave that explained a lot of the things that I didn't understand in this game.

[@IvanIvanov-uu6le]

Hey, it has been entertaining and educational and straight to the point. Please keep doing the great job! The best vid on vic3 economy that i have found so far! Looking forward to the one explaining how to embrace the industrial revolution :)

[@caesarnemkin6698]

Nice video, useful and to the point. Compares well against the super long ones and stale memers.

[@Xulgaron]

Feedbacks best at training us in paradox games. fast, direct and on point. keep going, sir!

[@TrueXyrael]

The main reason to not do this is if you want the factories to have different settings, since settings are applied per province. For example, Shipyards have settings that can either make Steamers or Clippers, but not both. You need Clippers throughout the whole game as that's the input for Ports to make Convoys, so if you only have one Shipyard and you convert it to Steamers, you won't have a source of Clippers for your Ports anymore. To a lesser degree, the problem also happens with Fertilizer/Explosives, Small Arms/Cannons, and Glass/Porcelain, though those factories can still output both unlike the Shipyard which is just one or the other.

[@AlexF-eh8yz]

Clippers eventually become obsolete as all buildings that use them can eventually be converted to steamers, including convoys. So eventually all your shipyards will be converted to steamers. However at that point you'll need to find a sweet spot between military and civilian production settings for your ironclads

[@andresp429]

amazing video!!really well explained, help me a lot, thanks and looking forward for the next one

[@vonblund7246]

Amazing, superb!! Can't wait to see you reaching rank 1 as Spain!!

[@fred_gwatkin]

Learned more in this than 10 hours of other tutorials. Cheers!

[@nickt9167]

I've watched a few Vic videos so far but I feel I've learnt more from your video than the others combined.

[@SRWG9001]

excellent tutorial my dude, explained stuff very succinctly

[@stevecarswell6329]

Great video! I'm really looking forward to the next one in vickey 3. I was trying to play today and found out just chasing the little green dollar icon does nothing lol.

[@TheSourBreadMan]

Great tutorial man, bassicaly explained how to play the game without making us feel like we are in a lecture.

[@patrickmccarron2817]

Okay I think this video finally broke through to my monke brain when it comes to understanding the economy in this game. I’m guessing this can be applied to most of the goods in the game. More of these shorter tutorial videos would be awesome, I need this shit beamed directly into my head.

[@parallax_review]

Thanks for the video, very helpful! I hope you do one on colonization in the future, because I just got my first colonies but cannot make them productive.

[@TheCalantyr]

Useful and well-presented.

[@wp12mv]

I tried figuring it out on my own, but I didn't realize I needed to set up my own export routes as well

[@SmallPotato2313]

U dont have to always do that the ai can export from u if they are in need and its good for them but u dont have much control over it if ai imports so its much better to set it up yourself. The negative thing tho is that u need bureaucracy to maintain your trade routes

[@njalsen]

This was good and entertaining :) A better way of learning for sure

[@AlexBergPlays]

Excellent stuff!

[@Captain-Axeman]

I might actually prefer this game over hoi4. Mostly because I love economics. Especially when they are realistic.

[@jr8260]

There's nothing realistic about unlimited goods lol, still pretty fun though.

[@SmallPotato2313]

@@jr8260 by unlimited goods u mean natural resources like coal sources and iron ore?

[@jr8260]

@@SmallPotato2313 no, if I understand it correctly there is no finite number of goods. For example, there is no exact number of available steel resources and you will only be cut off from them after it reaches a maximum price point rather than there is no more available. Functionally it the same purpose is served and it's probably way less taxing on computers but it's definitely not realistic, if I understand it correctly.

[@AlexF-eh8yz]

@@jr8260 That's not at all how it works ... there are definitely finite resources

[@jr8260]

@@AlexF-eh8yz well sheeit do you care to explain cause I don't get it then

[@kajetan9906]

Thanks! Very good video! A similar video on standard of living would be cool!

[@FeedbackIRL]

GOOD IDEA!

[@wulfie1199]

Yeah very useful info! Made vic3 seem a little more straight forward thanks!

[@thecirclegamer2118]

Thank man, definitely helpful for me

[@MantasRudas]

good and not boring video, keep going!

[@GregMcNeish]

I'm both a commerce student and someone who's watched a load of Vic3 videos already, so none of the economics stuff was new to me. What I did learn that will make my playing experience more enjoyable is holding Alt while clicking to jump something to the top of the construction queue. Beautiful.

[@alexandererhard2516]

That is actually mentioned in tooltips, but that's probably easy to overlook haha.

[@GregMcNeish]

@@alexandererhard2516 Yeah, I noticed that afterwards. Considering pretty much everything is tooltips on nested tooltips, I definitely completely missed it. With how dense the menus and tooltips are, there's no way I'd figure this game out without actual play videos.

[@armydawg15y]

Ive been playing the game for the last 2 days pretty hard. But there are some good tips here that i didnt know. Thanks!

[@gerddergaertner5071]

This video helped me in 2 instances where I was stuck

[@sergeantscumbag2116]

Thank you so much for this video

[@ProWhitaker]

Thanks for the video

[@trashedhead]

Comparative advantage and the Spanish coal monopoly -- sounds good to me!

[@Wright1331]

Great video, this is one of the best out so far on making money. Most of the rest of them are generic stuff that is obvious after you play for 30 minutes

[@sozilla]

Good format for this video

[@wolfapostle]

Finally had a play throughout where I could sustain my profits...thx for that! Ran into abit of problems once I went for steel mills tho....number ine in the world for iron and coal but no luck with steel...guess i need to create an internal demand for it?

[@FeedbackIRL]

Check next video to take it further

[@patrickdawson6281]

Best economy tutorial

[@longphaminh5558]

Thank you 😁😁😁

[@mast3r346]

actually usefull video

[@johnnicholas1657]

Very helpful.

[@KayKusoden]

the graphics are so beautiful, it is really enjoyable to watch.

[@rafaelurrusti6418]

Great , Dave!!

[@DanBarry851]

You don't get a throughput bonus from construction sectors but you get the state construction efficiency bonus which can really cut down the cost of buildings.

[@JankerMLD]

The most important button in this game is auto expand, cause it drastically reduces micro to a human capable level. Justo auto expend resourse production and focus on goods that require supply chains and generate a lot of added value which contributes to gdp growth. The problem though is that if you want to improve your level of life or destroy your ally economy in customs union you want your goods to be super cheap, which means you need super cheap resourses, so you have to micro again + subsidize resourse facilities

[@benjaminfranklin2064]

Great video. You dumbed down the concepts that even I can understand this game. Can't tell you how many paradox games I've bought and have failed to understand the game mechanics they throw into these games or the actual objective behind it. Well done!

[@paulmanning4901]

Best explainer Ive seen by far. Thank you . Watched it three times already

[@Annoxium]

"I think I'm gonna go with Aragon..." *chooses Valencia*

[@TheBestNameEver1000]

Deficit spending the game.

[@ericfernandez2378]

best tutorial yet wow

[@bgclo]

Ha! with all the shade being dropped on Potato, it's a wonder any whiskey gets made...

[@thomasjames9678]

Great video. After about 14 hours, playing with cheats to stay afloat and test the best way to earn money I've caught on to much of what you've shown here, with the tools needed to produce coal, making them cheaper etc. never though about avoiding railways though. great tips. Also, in the "market" view there is a toggle that you can change, (if I remember correctly) you can set the specific import/export to prioritize domestic use or prioritize export or neutral. Because I noticed that as I was diversifying my economy with engines, locomotives, Ironclads, etc. that I continually couldn't get the resources needed, mainly steel. So I looked in the market tab and found that toggle and set it to prioritize domestic use and it brought my income up drastically because it brought the demand for resources down.

[@seangallagher9435]

Something important about Bureaucracy is that the negatives and bonuses are based off the ratio between the usage and production of your bureaucrat score. If your usage is 10 percent more than the production, then you lose 10% taxes, but since the government buildings add a flat amount, there are some diminishing returns, it won't always be a 5% increase, as your total production can end up being over 1.5k by the mid game,

[@TheSmokingCheddar]

aaahhhhh thats where i have been going wrong, i havent been putting enough into my construction, i have actually only built enought so i could only build 1 construction at a time. thanks xD

[@LSUfan4life97]

Min-max, the philosophy of paradox games

[@alemaorobsondirschnabel670]

Thanks a lot Dave. Now, Brazil when?

[@julienf2301]

4:02 I don't think you get the "State Construction Efficiency", because you decided to construct your construction centres here and there. My understanding is that this bonus only affects things being constructed in the state of a construction centre. So generally you want to build a tall pile of construction centres in the state which you want to be central for your economy, where you will spend a lot of time building. That's just another kind of "economy of scale", even stricter in the sense that in this case the pile of construction centres needs to be in the same state as your pile of factories, while if the construction centres were using the same system as all other buildings then you could scatter you workforce into one construction state and one factory state.

[@lastfirst5863]

I have watched seven videos that promised I would be comfortable with the game after their quick tutorial, only to run into a debt spiral in the 1860’s every time, without exception.

[@hrodvitnir6725]

Pls do more tutorials! I actually diddnt fall a sleep watching this one and learned something :)

[@eqcr2177]

construction sectors give bonuses in the state you build them.

[@ultramarine0123]

The north fc experience

[@5psx]

More of this, need more coal.

[@YoungClarke]

It is difficult to explain to others that I enjoy games that you need to do homework and start over a dozen times before you know how to play.

[@kc_was_here737]

"Unhealthy economy, we will worry about that later". Unrivaled realism.

[@kerbalette156]

Epic brah cheez meh. Colonisation and warfare plez eh?

[@ThaStrum]

@FeedbackIRL Could you do Finland sometime in the future =?

[@zarinth]

Thanks.

[@boomerix]

Somehow I just always end up in a crippling dept spiral.

[@cyrusol]

Construction sectors don't have economies of scale but they do have state construction efficiency, effectively making buildings cheaper to construct in this one state. One should always designate one state as the "main hub", it should start with a big population, get permanent Greener Grass, permanent Road Maintenance, permanent Encourage Manufacturing and maxed construction sector. If it's not the capital it should be made the capital but for most countries the original capital is a fine choice. In this state you only build urban buildings, no rural, no resources. Once you run out of peasants in this state migration towards it will increase. The high wages there will increase SoL more than if you dispersed construction early on. The urban buildings with high throughput effects will still remain productive enough.

[@honk813]

Meanwhile me just completely leaching off the entirety of Europe by selling large quantities of grain during wartime

[@bigdikdude4207]

So whatcha saying is….. do the gazprom tactic? Interesting

[@Oscar-qj7uc]

Are there areas or countries where for example iron or paper would be a better option to make money. I think that all is based on demand but do you see same results with other resources but better in other countries (like silesia has 10% coal efficency)

[@Mentorshipgmailc-xr9rs]

*Email*

[@JamesJones-uu7ou]

As Spain you start off with a lot of random trade routes. Probably a cheaper way of starting than building so much admin?

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*Email*

[@tirraj9951]

well then regional fighting instead of provincial will be intresting

[@jabuticabavencida]

can someone explain to me what he did during the game, I don't understand very well the American language

[@darkpaladin18]

Same Guide for Japan pls

[@knpark2025]

Koch Brothers Simulator

[@AngryDrake]

Cold mines. :D

[@jakubkotas3617]

ok Feedback, this was SO helpful. I tried playing VIC3 once today and had 0 idea what to do, i actually considered qutting it. Huge thanks, super helpful!

[@joelhicks5468]

I watched this guide, then decided to start up a game. I chose Japan. Half this guide doesn't work for them because of their Isolated Economy - looking forward to more guides about how to manage the political aspects of the game. I had an incredibly hard time getting things moving without being able to import and export goods.

[@alexandererhard2516]

Japan is an interesting one, as you have to think about how you actually create a demand for a resource, so it doesn't sit at -75% price and makes the factory unprofitable. Having listenined to a few other channels, I think the best earlygame route to railroads for Japan (or other isolationists, if they have those resources) is probably Tools to use in Logging Camps -> Iron Mines to use for Iron Tools and Coal Mines to use for Coal Streetlights in whatever order you like -> Steel Mills to use for Steel Tools -> Engines and Railroads That way, you gradually have a bit of demand (and therefore should have profitable buildings) for each new resource (well except engines, do them at the same time as railroads) on the way to getting railroads.

[@utewbd]

Call of Duty so good bro

[@Tommy1andonly]

Processor doesn't support AVX, can't launch game, skill has nothing to do with it, but :shrug: you have a great way of explaining stuff even if i can not play myself, it helps me understand playthroughs i watch on youtube, and it is remarkable game mechanics it seems, but bare bones it seems, i fear it doesn't get forgotten by the time i get a new PC.

[@FeedbackIRL]

What cpu you got?

[@briang966]

Another way to increase the price of coal initially in your market other than trade is to add gas lighting to your urban centers

[@technoincubus1736]

You build CIC to build more CIC

[@utewbd]

Sounds familiar

[@q1w2e3621]

why no railways?

[@jefflokanata]

That money only go to that coal digger company. Unless you have economic laws that transfer into investment pool. Or you pass some law that also can be tax if the business booming.

[@fsulitskiy]

Coal is good for money making but what other commodities are? I can't imagine something like iron/wood would be cuz it would make the economy unstable since demand would sharply rise whenever you build and fall whenever you don't

[@Lex-dw7ng]

iron and wood are quite good actually - because *someone* always needs them. If you're not building (which you almost always are) your trade partners are, and they'll take up the slack. If you find yourself in a position where your "static" use of wood/iron vs your "active" use is too far apart, you simply increase your "static" use (by building tool workshops, for example)

[@chengarqordath]

@@Lex-dw7ng Especially since as you move down the tech tree, tools will get more and more valuable. Pretty much every industry building will eventually start consuming tools as you build up the tech base. When in doubt, just build more of whatever goods are selling at a high price.

[@fabriziocossio3336]

Iron, wood, lead, opium, sulfur, tea wine Anything used for either industrial expansion or for warmaking has a lot of potential , or commodities that some countries are addicted to

[@FeedbackIRL]

Coal is not the best money maker. You're better off making manufactured goods. Like tools or steel or clothes

[@gaberobison680]

I bet his population ante him for the lack of clothes and furniture lol

[@friendlyinternetman5271]

Feedback is the only place to go for ‘guy who actually knows what he’s talking about and explains things clearly and succinctly’. 2 hours of a noob reading all the tooltips? No thanks!

[@samstringer3549]

Some games I do really good and make a ton of money and some others I go bankrupt immediately and I have no idea what I’m doing right or wrong

[@mikelator96]

I love the part when you go to politics to see if Spain is a monarchy. My man, Spain is still a monarchy to this day.

[@PanzerV21]

Why do u use 500 civs for eco why not 501

[@spitfireflyer2205]

sup dave

[@dbzfanexwarbrady]

My EU4 habbit and playstyle hard reverse of the recomended playstyle in this game , i hate Debt