The best comparison I've seen about this topic, so far Thanks
@hvspeed61022 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of KZbin videos on cutting melamine. This one is by far the most informative, thank you taking the time for making it.
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 👍
@pandyinfrance30653 ай бұрын
OMG 1:59 - That is EXACTLY how i ended up with the top of two of my fingers on my left hand missing. Absolutely mad that you show this in an instructional video.
@Mike-me3sp3 ай бұрын
Damn, we know he's got clamps nearby. Why would you do that?
@dguy-xk4fc3 ай бұрын
Tnx for the tip, good point
@akiraic2 ай бұрын
thanks for pointing ☝🏼 that out 😂
@27bri27Ай бұрын
Did it kick out? 😮
@TaqweemAhsan13 күн бұрын
Clearly he's a professional while your not. Frankly you should be the last person here to give any advice.
@kbc2137008 ай бұрын
Scientific method is alive and well with you mate!! WELL DONE!
@em0_tion2 жыл бұрын
Logic, demonstration, undeniable results. Now that is how you make great content. You rock! 🔥👍
@ernestbubly96362 жыл бұрын
It’s all about blade rotation. As long as you are cutting down into the material there will never be tear out. Try reverse scoring. . Set your blade to be about 2 to 3mm deep. Start saw on finishing end of board. Pull saw towards you. Now set blade to full depth and push away in normal manner. Voila.. splinter free cuts on both sides. Must cut against straight edge or use a fence in order to do this. Ad
@HisboiLRoi2 жыл бұрын
That's the same principle behind the common trick of putting the blade on backwards to cut plastic laminate countertops (where blowout on the underside doesn't matter). Of course, in either scenario the cut will go a bit slower.
@ernestbubly96362 жыл бұрын
@@HisboiLRoi Never thought of doing that. Must try it sometime. Thanks. For the tip.
@harrysingh-tj5pu2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestbubly9636 never thought about it because its fucken dangerous
@NightlifeReALIty2 жыл бұрын
Scribing blade on panel saws spin anti clockwise scoring Boards same principle as you explain. Best methods to cut melamine for me is order is all pre cut and edged 😂
@KingKatura2 жыл бұрын
Not completely the case, a cordless saw did it when i cut down. Actually honestly i was thinking about that because when i use a corded saw i usualy do cut down into it, its all i ever have done really. But I never even seen this problem until i started using a cordless saw, which most of the time i don't cut down through it because the blade tends to be a bit smaller and slower at times. But i did do it a couple times and it did the same thing on Engineered wood, with a vynal top, which like i said i had never seen until i started using newer cordless saws.
@bill90972 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I cut melamine, any laminate and 1/4" plywood from the opposite side when using a circular saw. Table saws cut down into the wood, not up through it, just for this reason. You can get the same benefit by flipping your stock over when using a circular saw - - also apply all the tips in the video too
@loganmedia1142 Жыл бұрын
Don't they cut downward to pull down and push back on what you're cutting so they don't drag it toward the blade or try to lift it off the table.
@DougImmel-y2x Жыл бұрын
SCIENCE. Diligent, thorough. Dude! Adding to the craft. THANK you.
@Hajjat2 жыл бұрын
Using the multi cut method provided great results even with 24 teeth. Great content, haven’t seen others doing this on a circular saw. Thanks for sharing!
@gregdee5302 жыл бұрын
Running a scoring cut before the full depth is always best, I use 3mm mdf over some cuts. Blades are not just about teeth-count I have recently learned (after 40 years lol!). Study-up on blade Hook Angles, they make the world of difference when combined with the correct teeth numbers on the quality of the top cut's finish as the less angle "shaves more than cuts" as it passes through, and obviously have the depth of cut set to match the material thickness. Bosch have a range of blades with minimal and sometimes negative Hook angles which I've now swapped to.
@hallmanager4911 Жыл бұрын
I used the three cut method yesterday on a length of laminated kitchen worktop - wow, what a result! I used a 24 tooth blade and no masking tape and the result was a near pristine cut. One thing I learned - start your cut at the curved edge of the laminate, otherwise small bits of laminate might get pushed off rather than cut, spoiling your perfect finish.
@jimmyc974 Жыл бұрын
Wow , thats got to be ignorance at it's peak , turn the worktop upside down
@joeabad59083 ай бұрын
This is how a video tutorial has to be presented.. super informative worth your effort.. thanks for the upload..
@billshowto3 ай бұрын
You’re welcome 👍
@MarshallLoveday Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! This is EXACTLY the video I needed today, because I will be cutting wide melamine shelves for my pantry. I will be using a circular saw with a NEW 60+ tooth blade. The 'multiple cuts' method is a winner, and I will be using some kind of edge guide. What complicates my install is that if course the side walls to the small pantry aren't exactly parallel, so each shelf must be custom-fit to size. I've got 1/16 to 3/8 differences front-to-rear on the shelf widths - 5 shelves.
@yourmasterrenovator867 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. You spent a lot of time to demonstrate all the options. Very thorough and informative. Thank you again. 🙏
@MandarkPsuedonym Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, so many others waffling on and then showing the finished result but not showing the cut being made. You did everything right in this, no bogus video cuts, no lies, just hard facts and hard evidence. Thanks mate, I owe you a beer.
@ThomasShort-w7e7 ай бұрын
Great tips Bill - gives me as a weekend DIYer a lot of confidence
@FreeRad1cal20082 жыл бұрын
That is such a useful comparison between the methods. Have used tape in the past and never been happy with results. Multiple cuts from now on. Who knew?! Bill did:) Thanks.
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
Now we all know 👍👍👍
@ConsistencyAndAdherence2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for increasing our knowledge with your informative video. Great work.
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome 👍
@HIK_489 ай бұрын
I've found the best method is to use tape AND sacrificial wood (and whenever possible using the table saw). But yes, all other things being equal, a wood blade will always give you better results than the generic blade that mitre saws, table saws and circular saws are shipped with.. Keep up the good work. Greetings from London!
@rosewoodsteel66569 ай бұрын
Moral of the story: Use the bottom of the stock for your finished side.
@elmonteking64308 ай бұрын
lol 🤣🤣
@noclicheplease7 ай бұрын
LOL spoken like a real and experienced carpenter.
@GrantOakes2 жыл бұрын
Great content! I was just getting ready to head to Home Depot to pick up tape because I'm cutting a bunch of plywood today. You just saved me $4 plus gas for the round trip. THANKS!
@dalegray9342 жыл бұрын
I have been building stuff for 40 years. Learned a lot of good stuff. Thank you.
@bernieshort63112 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration, thanks. I have found that clamping a waste piece of the same material over the cut area by using screws rather than clamps on the waste side of the cut, I have cut worktops (counter tops for USA) and have never had a blowout. I believe the extra holding strength of the screws over clamps made the difference. Thank you once again.
@phil55692 жыл бұрын
Can't tell ya how many times I've gotten rough cuts and had no idea why. This is great advice!
@petemiller519 Жыл бұрын
I think I was born with a hockey stick and a circular saw in my hand in 1960, but you're never too old to learn new info. Great info, never tried or even thought of the multiple cut method. Looks like I am buying a 60 tooth blade as well, compared to my 40 tooth. Cheers from Canada.
@billshowto Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@abalonesense4 ай бұрын
the best planning executed, best logic demonstrated, most believable result!
@Ragnaroz60002 жыл бұрын
A little tip I got from an old timer who's spent a lifetime making high end furniture, to get perfect cuts while cutting on the finish-side, without the need to go get a 60 tooth blade: Use the method you showed with the fixed guide, but on the first pass you set the depth to 1.5-3 mm (1/16-1/8 inch) and you make the first cut in reverse. By cutting backwards, the teeth of the blade will strike down into the finish side of wood and won't blow out since its always supported, just like you see on the backside of all your shown cuts. Its important (both for result and safety) you only make this first shallow cut in reverve, and not the full depth, as the saw will be pushing back off the material rather than clamp it between the blade and the depth guide as it normally does during forward cutting, so make sure you keep a slight pressing down on the saw as you cut. After that, you finish like you also did, with a full cut through in the normal direction.
@tomsmith30452 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip... In machining, that's a climb cut, and also smoother. With a really shallow cut as you describe, that should be ok in wood.
@henryw.h.39482 жыл бұрын
Sounds reasonable. Thumbs up! Let me translate it to Chinese for future Chinese audience. 这位鸭子叫同学分享了从老木匠那里学来的技巧:在正式切板子之前,用圆锯倒着切一条槽,倒着切的时候齿是压在板子上的,所以不会崩边。槽不要太深,1.5~3mm以内,太深电锯反弹力会很大,小心伤人。
@povilasstonkus3998 Жыл бұрын
Wow thanks
@dustman96 Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea, I'll have to try that
@mikeilkycook6832 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks.
@tonyog94582 жыл бұрын
A method I use for melamine is to score parallel lines the width of the circular saw blade with a craft knife over the top surface and edges. It's a bit time consuming, but I'm usually happy with the results. Next time I have a project, I'll have to try out your triple pass method. Thanks for the helpful video.
@Fred-eh7lj2 жыл бұрын
wtf
@WolfgangR752 жыл бұрын
Here i show u a trick i teach my guys in germany, may bee it helps u kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2KQpKanfJubmpI
@totallycv2388 Жыл бұрын
That works for me as well. Scoring the cut with a utility knife first
@TangHeyman9 ай бұрын
I learn a lot from your tips. Thank you!
@billshowto9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome 👍
@jackt6112 Жыл бұрын
Worthwhile watching. I would have never thought of the methods nor guessed the results.
@ifmbm332b Жыл бұрын
Multi cut did the trick with spectacular results!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!
@seanhunt34172 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Just want to say I absolutely love your channel and really appreciate how much you help people. I live in Adelaide and are a gardener/ handyman. I have learnt so much from you. Thanks again
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome, I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos👍
@slimeslime21232 жыл бұрын
Used the multiple depth cut method a while ago while installing a slat wall because I saw it in a Scott Brown video and couldn’t believe it actually worked so well
@ettiennelategan887 Жыл бұрын
I always used to initially cut a straight, superficial line on the board with a grinder (cutting disc mounted) to give a smooth cut on the top side before using the saw, but it's like surgery and takes a lot of time and focus. Having watched this, I can't believe I never thought of doing the surface cut with the circular saw instead. It is the same concept, just 10x quicker and you only need one tool to do it. Thanks Bill, I think I finally found that "one method that works". 👍
@MikeCarter3 ай бұрын
Glad you did so many tests - covered everything i had in mind to test myself. Saved me some time!
@dustman962 жыл бұрын
I'd say the speed at which you cut is the most important factor. When I want a clean cut I just slow way down. If you slow down AND use a fine tooth blade you get a nice cut with little blowout, and any blowout you do have is very small. The multiple cut method demonstrates the effect of changing the angle at which the blade exits the material. The first cut has a nearly horizontal exit.
@JoeAverage20062 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the multiple cut method is so effective and this is it - thanks!
@kaheka60 Жыл бұрын
So how is multiple cut done. Dumb!
@dustman96 Жыл бұрын
@@kaheka60 Was that a question?
@dustman96 Жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention another very important factor, sharp blades.
@markoshun2 жыл бұрын
When I use tape to trim wooden doors, I find the tape holds the fibers very well. But I wouldn’t expect to get a good result with melamine. Completely different materials. Maybe try these same tests with plywood..? Was very impressed with the multiple passes method. A bit more trouble to set up a guide, but great result even on melamine. Well worth it. Thanks.
@amos01402 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting these vids Bill, you’re really helping me improve the quality of my work 👍
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@ajithsidhu71832 жыл бұрын
@@billshowto hi bill please do diy ways to secure our house or low cost ways
@johnuniverse2902 Жыл бұрын
Dude, u just saved me tons of money!!! thank you!
@ronaldroberts72212 жыл бұрын
This is actually a useful tip. I haven't seen this anywhere else. Thanks.
@paulboregard4056Күн бұрын
Thank you for providing exactly the comparison I was looking for!
@sygad12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, straight to the point, clearly explained, results to prove it, thanks for making it, really helped me to get better results
@StuckInTheM1ddle2 жыл бұрын
Great video that I didn't think I needed until half-way through I realised how much I did! So if you want the perfect finish you just have to take more time cutting Melamine via the multiple pass method it looks like!
@michaels53818 ай бұрын
Worked great, cut the board easy as butter, thanks for the tips.
@eazymealz24494 ай бұрын
This is what I needed for cutting Ikea doors.. Thank you!!
@colinjames2405 ай бұрын
This is just the advice I needed to cut my kitchen units to fit. Thanks for the advice
@indyjones8312 күн бұрын
Great video, straight to the point, accurate. Good job!
@westfieldartworks81882 жыл бұрын
Some videos cover some of the bases....this one covered ALL of the bases. Best video I've ever seen on the subject. Can't thank you enough. cheers.
@olachus2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tests you've done. You may want to add the reverse blade method too. See what then results are and make a second episode of this video.
@charminglad1242 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, heard an oldie about this subject.. 2 cuts with a good carpet knife using metal ruler and 3 mm apart, the old guy swore by it..Just on the top
@johnnygsdiy19812 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick and simple video. Multiple cuts is the winner!
@Stevej20139 ай бұрын
What a great video Bill. Thank you Sir. The results were a shock. It goes to show, that slowly is the key.
@LoriSews5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this informative lesson. This will really help me when I use my circular saw.
@MrFreesearcher2 жыл бұрын
Another one to try is multiple cuts with the 60 tooth blade, but the first cut, pull the saw in reverse across the job. The material is essentially compressed into the board, and then ejected along the cut, meaning it isn't lifted. This might also work on the 24 tooth, but there's less tool control.
@DrM0lek2 жыл бұрын
Probably the most efficient method. However make sure to just set a 2-3 mm max during the first cut in reverse direction to avoid kick back and use a guide to stay on the same cut. Then cut through as usual.
@zcrazyg91142 жыл бұрын
as an extreme Novice when it comes to woodworking... i would not have thought the multi cut would have been any better since the rotation of the blade is still in the same direction pulling the material up.... now watching this and reading comments... it is actually cutting more parallel to the work piece which somehow helps prevent blow out..
@icolater272 жыл бұрын
Just watch for no reason and Actually really enjoyed it. I might have missed my calling.
@phillhart29909 ай бұрын
I learned something very useful from this vid. And... no arguments in the comments... because it was executed very scientifically. GREAT VID thanks for taking the time!!!
@vociferonheraldofthewinter22842 жыл бұрын
okay. This warranted a donation. Thanks for doing the work to figure out this frustrating puzzle.
All the techniques in 1 video. Great content. Now just need to do the same thing with different types of wood (particle, laminate, plywood...)
@MrKidQueso Жыл бұрын
This video was very handy, as I know that the chipping occurs, and in my case cutting laminate. I was surprised to see the results. My project involves trimming off an already set countertop, where a new oven would not fit and I have to trim off a quarter inch from either side. So the repeated, shallow cuts, would be a way to get the best finish possible. Your video provided valuable information and I think you for that. I rarely do these kinds of cuts with my everyday blade, so it’s time to buy a few, including the 60 tooth blade and apply tape as well to the method.
@mrscoot1 Жыл бұрын
He showed tape does not help , only multicuts with 60 tooth saw blade
@TheRealMrCods2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial Bill, Big thumbs up for this one 👍
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@larryr5420 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
@deborahklem439 Жыл бұрын
Tried the multi cut technique and it worked out wonderfully! Thanks so much for this video!
@benpaci85612 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to make to make three passes for the multiple cut. Just two is enough. And you should never cut 16mm sheet goods with your blade at full depth anyway. Having your blade only just cut thru the material makes the world of difference. Give that a go next time Bill 👍🏼
@boski2242 жыл бұрын
I do first 2mm deep cut - backwards. You have to be more careful but it is 100% sure to have clean cut. 2nd run is full depth.
@chrishayes57552 жыл бұрын
Usually I'll give it a 360 run at 3.14mm then backpass through the cut with a slight 0.5 degree spaced bevel arch. Afterwards I'll lay down some gold foil and rip through at 1500 RPM for the final pass, but only after giving the saw a full spray down with the air compressor and lubricant on all bearings.
@benpaci85612 жыл бұрын
@Chris Hayes 😂😂
@JoeAverage20062 жыл бұрын
@@chrishayes5755 thanks for this I followed your steps exactly and it came out perfect!
@jonathanbetenbender3072 жыл бұрын
Also doing the cut a lil slower... but I think the fast cut was better for demonstrative purposes.
@GM-wq4wn7 ай бұрын
No comments, just perfect cuts.
@morganrody67 Жыл бұрын
Winner winner chicken dinner, great video, thanks!!
@chuisaoule6 ай бұрын
I personally make a first cut backwards, like 2 or 3 mm depth, I think that's the most effective way to get a clean cut 🙂
@rbgohome2 жыл бұрын
Upcoming DIY table desk sawing and later edge banding. Really needed to know this. Ordered a 60T to replace my 24T asap too. Now I can tackle this job with confidence. Awesome! Thanks for this information.
@vbroder1511 ай бұрын
Mate, you are genius! Thank you!
@piotrprs5729 ай бұрын
RLY nice test of different blades and cut techniques. 👍👍👍👍😘
@OzPanthera2 жыл бұрын
TY for the vid, I'm a first time watcher and I found it fascinating and informative, I won't forget this ever! 🙂
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 👍
@bradwatson2814 Жыл бұрын
Thanks - what a great find you are. I love the way you compared all of the methods - very scientific 👍👍
@tttm992 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and very useful demonstration! 👍 Nice work.
@rayhayes622 жыл бұрын
You went to a lot of trouble for our benefit there, many thanks. 👍from the UK.
@amberx186310 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I only have one board to cut and didn’t want to buy a new blade for this just that. Was hoping to see 24 teeth with tape and 3 pass method combined but I guess I’ll be running that test myself tomorrow
@buckJuddsonАй бұрын
What if you take the blade off and put it on backwards. That how we cut vinyl siding , so it don't splinter and crack .
@peymansheikhchi15482 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a nice video as usual! What about cutting upsidedown, flipping the piece of wood and cut.Cheers!!
@kennedymcgovern5413 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I just remodeled one of my bathrooms. I used MDF baseboard and trim molding. I cut it all with a 40 tooth Diablo on an 8 1/4" table saw. I had zero blowout. It cut to perfection. Guessing that maybe the diameter of the blade has something to do with it? I don't know. This video, however, convinced me to get rid of the stock DeWalt 24 tooth blade on my circular saw, though. I just never gave that any thought before but, honestly, how often am I ever ripping a 2X4 with the grain of it? Never, is the answer. So, now that you have made me think about that, I ordered a 60 tooth diablo to go on the circular. That just makes better sense. Thanks!
@rayaldridge2506 Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration. I just wish you had added one more test. A single straight thru-cut using a guide like you did with the multi-cut test. But since you did all of the other tests, I guess I can do that one on my own. 😀 Thank you for sharing.
@chrisvaiuso60102 жыл бұрын
Great methodical approach.
@greggregson96872 жыл бұрын
Nice tip. I will remember this one going forward. I sort of guessed that the more teeth, the finer the cut, which is pretty obvious, but that trick with the multiple cuts, nice one. Thanks for another great video Bill.
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
👍
@richardhasler67182 жыл бұрын
Great video, really clear demonstration of how to get clean cuts, especially in faced boards. Thank you for this.
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 👍
@barrylongstaff5849 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Bill, and the most useful I've come across. Keep up the good work!
@billshowto Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@mrhome26502 жыл бұрын
Best video ever!! I wish I would have watched your video earlier.
@TH3C4NN4BL3C0W2 жыл бұрын
fantastic video, trying to use what I have for some melamine and this showed exactly what my results would've been without having to trial and error myself
@shebangsTS4 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic and extremely useful tip!!
@carlmastropaolo6147 Жыл бұрын
Thanx so much for your presentation. I will use what you taught to cut beadboard and I will cut with backside up to get best results on front side.
@mijalic12 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Thank you for your time and effort to make this video and share it with us. Greetings from Croatia.
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome 👍
@Billy_Bull_SheeterАй бұрын
I think if you go slow and take your time, you experience a better finish. You also enjoy it more. I also found that using some form of protection on your wood helps. Practice makes perfect.
@sarchlalaith88362 жыл бұрын
He's back! The Ozzy man snack is at it again 😉
@billshowto2 жыл бұрын
Lol👍
@sarchlalaith88362 жыл бұрын
@@billshowto love the wisdom Bill, keep them videos rolling 🖤
@albertodarla715 Жыл бұрын
Great video! That's very helpful. Thanks for sharing mate! :)
@ArchiboldAcquah19 күн бұрын
very methodical and informative. Thanks!
@danieldibiaso93429 ай бұрын
I cut a lot of plywood and have the same problem with blowout. I think I have solved the problem with frog tape but, I purchased a steel roller about 3” wide made for flooring installers to flatten seams. By rolling the tape with this steel roller there is absolutely no blowout. The roller costs about $45 at a big box store.
@kevinurzi55423 ай бұрын
very good demonstration. thank you
@bertiesworld9 ай бұрын
Your multi-cut is essentially mimicking the saws we use at the factory, although we do it all in one pass. We have a scoring blade running in the reverse direction of the main blade, both mounted on one saw bed. The cuts we get are extremely sharp (you can cut yourself), even 3 metre long cuts with 5 boards, held in place by a couple of pressure beams, cut all at once. The other thing that makes a huge difference is the blade itself. Is it sharp? In the factory, blades get changed a minimum of 3 times a day. More if chipping starts to occur.
@nevilenobody6062 жыл бұрын
Your 60T blade looks like it's had a hard life. A brand new one will cut perfectly through melamine. But the multi cut method looks pretty good to get the most use out of the blade as it ages and the carbide tip starts to blunt.
@luulemees2 жыл бұрын
You dont want to cut carpet with a dull knife cause you know it is ripping instead of cutting.. somehow people attach blunt blade on powertool and expect perfect cut
@Johnytube313 Жыл бұрын
I find the best result with frog tape if you decide to use it it is actually not along the frog tape but right by the edge of it, if you don't cut tape it does not lift up with chips of wood it still holds them down, try out.
@jg15032 жыл бұрын
I know festools are expensive but if you don’t already know, it cuts clean on both sides. Having the right tools makes a better craftsman.
@grahamcoster83332 жыл бұрын
Fantastic how-to mate! Can’t thank you enough. Bill, you rock 🙏😀