I use a very similar method but bend the wire up into the center hole in the points. The outer tube is glued in place and covered with scenic. It's a simple method that works as well now as it always has. Good on you for showing everyone. Cheers!
@johnjohnston96615 ай бұрын
Glad to see a foray back in OO. Nothing against N, it's just a bit small for me. I think this is the first time I've seen an instruction video on wire and tube turnout controls - thanks for doing this! Simple and effective.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@OlivierGabin5 ай бұрын
A great classic at last explained, and illustrated with a very convincing example. Thanks for the tip, I buy it !
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@MarkPurnell-er1lx5 ай бұрын
Another simple, ingenious idea …. that came to life 😊
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@davidpriddle92365 ай бұрын
Simple is good, well done. I've had success using brake/gear cables from bicycles either new from the shop, or scavenged from an old bike. They are flexible so can have the control knobs (good idea the pencil sections) located exactly where required. Cheers, David, Tasmania.
@mp-modelplastic5 ай бұрын
Excelent tip, very Simple and eficient. Thank you for sharing. Greetings from Portugal 🙋
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks. Lisbon is one of my favourite cities, love the trams there
@user-sv4pj5jl8n5 ай бұрын
Thank you Mike for reminding us of this low cost turnout control method. For those in North America, Hobby Lobby has similar components, in addition to the floral wire, K&S brass wire and tubes are available. BTW the jewelery beads also make great handles.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
The bead idea is a great one thanks
@mikehebdentrains5 ай бұрын
Sometimes, old tech is simpler :o) Thinking back to about 60 years ago, the advice then was to cut back the tube slightly and include an 'omega loop' in line somewhere along the wire. This acted as a safety feature if the wire was pushed or pulled too enthusiastically - in normal use the loop just transmitted the force in either direction, but if there was excessive movement the loop either closed up or opened up to compensate, protecting the point. A tip I was recently given for tension lock couplings (but haven't tried yet) was to glue a magnet to the end of a tube/pencil or something and then you just dip it on to the top of the couplings and it will lift both link bars. I suppose you could just magnetise an ordinary screw or nail!
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
I've tried the magnet, but the issue is the little hooks if the Wagons are not compressed
@Matt296N5 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. I've just done this on my OO inglenook this afternoon. A length of plastruct tube and two lengths of brass wire set me back the huge total of £2.06 from my local model shop (The Model Shop, Northampton) and works beautifully. I used hot glue to attach the tube to the board and cut down some spare dowels from flat-pack furniture for the knobs on the end of the wire.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Sounds great, cheap simple and effective
@charlie18725 ай бұрын
I have been reviewing all the videos on this topic as my layout does not presently have point motors. “Just like that” Tommy must have had a hand in this. 👍💥🔥
@railway1875 ай бұрын
N is great but since I have H0 and OO, I am glad with this video. Great idea for a remote control of switches 👍 I didn't know about the smaller frog in Peco points, I should have checked that before buying my Hornby points. The frog is indeed bigger and it seems quite elevated, wheelsets with larger flanges tend to jump over them... 🐸
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
I learnt the hard way too, I would never use Hornby, even the mechanism on peco is more positive and reliable
@Bill_D.5 ай бұрын
Back in the 1970's, a hobby shop used bent down nails instead of a pencil, hooked to the wire. It protruded up near the edge of the board. It was neat for a similar switching layout. That was back before Tortoise switch machines and plastic hand throws.
@monsvillerailways57365 ай бұрын
Good idea. You've done this on previous layouts I remember. Good and simple with no wiring. 👍 Happy Modelling.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@955trainboy5 ай бұрын
Big smile and a lightbulb moment for me when you said, and demonstrated that this method is just as quick as flicking a switch for a point motor.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
I know, it's a bit of a shock when it occurs to you, same result no expensive complex electrical Components lol
@michaeldavies96005 ай бұрын
Hi Mike i love this sort of thing,no need for expensive point motors and wiring is there! I have seen this before some where,but this person had his mounted under the baseboard.But both are great ideas.Playing with trains should be fun and easy😀
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Absolutely thanks
@Curious_Skeptic5 ай бұрын
Yes! Perfect. RC airplanes use this system and there so many lengths and diameters. They come as a set wire and tube you don't need to buy separate. If you wanted, you could drive them with a simple servo and servo test controller. It would better to have the servos away from the switch so they are easier to access and no long runs of wires. Running them under the table and even being able to have flexibility of the tubes leaves lots of options. I think you could go up to 3' with no issue as long as you secure your tubing.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks I will take a look at RC planes parts for longer lengths, good call
@DavidJones-hd1jj5 ай бұрын
I bought some model aircraft actuator wire and found it too hard and almost impossible to cut to length - it would ruin Xuron track cutters. I think I used a hacksaw in the end. It looks as if you found a better solution.
@Curious_Skeptic5 ай бұрын
@DavidJones-hd1jj yes, dremel cut off wheel. That said, never had an issue cutting with linesman plyers. Maybe you are using the heavery gauge. You need the smaller stuff. Like for park flyers and such. I will look up the gauges when i get a chance.
@smallscenesh05 ай бұрын
That is a nice solution. Thanks for the video!😉👍
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks, it's had a very good response, sometimes the simplest ideas are the best ones
@wild_rover26485 ай бұрын
great idea Mike
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Clarinetboy825 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I really like the simplicity of it. I will take a look at trying this for the switching layout I plan on building.
@LondonPredatorAngler5 ай бұрын
This is a great idea, love it, defo gonna do this to my own when I get started. Glad ur back to making a inglenook shunting layout in 00... but loving the N too... keep these grwat videos and tips coming please, my fav model railways channel... the simple things are the best ideas 👌🏻
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support
@edgein78924 ай бұрын
Great solution again. Not for every brand though, a brand like Roco has points that wont stay put unless a manual throw or point motor is attached. Easy solution for that would be a screw at the end to turn it in the desired position and lock it in place.
@paulkandi19 күн бұрын
Its a good idea and saves money, but as I have done this before, it will not take long to damage the ends of the wire.. Maybe recessing the pull knobs into the base board, so they don't protrude, a better way, is of a type of lever, similar to a signal box lever frame, better still..
@donniblanco52393 ай бұрын
Perfick point motors - keep it Simple 👍🏻
@steadycamman15 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, love the points idea I would never thought of that, regards, Pete 👍
@Herriot75 ай бұрын
Love the thinking, the value and open approach. Will enjoy hearing about your adventures with a MRC. I've found a club really helpful in giving fresh perspectives and ideas as well as sharing the pleasure of the hobby in person.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks I'm looking forward to it
@fredpryde85555 ай бұрын
easy cheap and a great idea for starters well done
@ShaneRHDR5 ай бұрын
Great Idea thanks for the tip.
@johnbridges9555 ай бұрын
Love this, thank you for posting.
@philipclark83075 ай бұрын
Oh excellent, thanks so much for another OO gauge video!
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@GregPotter-ln4pl5 ай бұрын
Realy helpful thanks😊
@stevenjones19-m8i5 ай бұрын
Hello,that works great. I have done similar with N gauge but the rod going underneath in the hole and holding the pipe with balsa wood .
@Rsmith6005 ай бұрын
This is brilliant, I'm doing this with my layout.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@dibsyardshuntinglayout5 ай бұрын
Gotta love wire in tube. I have it on my layout. I use 2mm brass rod with 4mmOD x 2mmID PTFE tube.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Where do you buy those please
@dhouse-d5l5 ай бұрын
This is brilliant. Cheap and very affective..right up my street. Thanks.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@086DEN5 ай бұрын
Excellent idea lad, thanks for that.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@nikneumann91705 ай бұрын
Hi, Mike, hope all is ok on your side of the tracks. Great idea - reminds me of your Tutorial Teusdays.
@seanmmccarthy5 ай бұрын
Great! I very well might give this a go. Now to find a proper uncoupling solution...!
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Hopefully in the next video as I've been experimenting
@tabletop_railway5 ай бұрын
It’s a nifty idea ! I wonder if there are some sorts of manually operated semaphore signals that could be operated in some similar fashion.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
I would think so, nice idea
@robertstrainset65565 ай бұрын
Hi, This could be very useful as I have just used a wire system made out of what was in the house so Mains cable, tap washers, washers and a hot glue gun with some bought in knobs £1 each as on the 8ftx1ft 6in end to end I am building wanted it to be simple unlike my iTrains controlled layout in the loft so if you had uploaded this before mine which went live in the last week it could have helped me however your system is straight can it be bent and still work as on mine which is installed under the baseboard does need to. But well done for showing this and if anyone wishes to do the same and does not have spare mains cable your parts and method would help. Cheers Robert.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Hi, I would think it could be bent using a more flexible tube, the length of the wire might be an issue. I did make long bendy runs on another layout using 3d printer tube and filament
@robertstrainset65565 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Hi thanks for the reply if you look at what I have done a bendy run is easy to do and I have with my run around points changed both with one wire pull push. Cheers Robert.
@fircombehallrailwayoogauge14305 ай бұрын
I am now wondering why I spent hours under my baseboards adjusting servos!
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
@@robertstrainset6556 very clever
@dundasjunctionmodelr.r-jam82675 ай бұрын
I use Walthers code 83 turnouts , there is a hole at each side of the throw bar, just need a 90 degree bent in the piano wire, I don’t use Peco turnouts, but the idea is cool
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Should work the same.
@1987TimeLord5 ай бұрын
Looks good Mike, but is there any chance you could add the product information to the video description, please? I'd like to try this on a shunting layout I'm making, but I'm not having much luck finding slaters rods which are actually tubes.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Sorry, I bought the slaters tube from Kernow models, it has no packaging etc, so can't give product codes etc. The florist wire is as the packaging I showed and came from hobby craft. Worth remembering that this will only do short straight runs
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be5 ай бұрын
Just the vid I need for my floating shelf TTn42 Inglenook. Been trying to figure this out. Can Inglenooks use automatic decouplers? Where would they be placed?
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
I tend not to use uncouplers as you need to un couple any where along all three roads.
@SBCBears5 ай бұрын
I'm smiling. I like it.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@whirlington5 ай бұрын
Do you have any equally interesting budget motorbike tips?
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Sadly mine is the exact opposite to budget at the moment as it needs work. It does do 100mpg though so that's budget at least lol
@claireflorencecampbell95152 ай бұрын
Hi that’s fantastic as I’m not good with electrics for point operations Also where did you get the hoop from which goes on to the point lever ?
@BudgetModelRailways2 ай бұрын
@@claireflorencecampbell9515 I just bent the wire round, it is much easier than point motors
@claireflorencecampbell95152 ай бұрын
Thanks I'm Def goons give this method a go !
@andypreston68995 ай бұрын
Why not use RC pushrods. They have wire and tube all as a set. Just need to cut to length, they're designed to work as a set, no trying to match the tube with the wire.
@djwarren50815 ай бұрын
RC pushrods?
@andywilley30415 ай бұрын
Where can I get that from please
@davidsheriff89895 ай бұрын
Can the wires overheat when covered?
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
There is no power to them, just manual so should be OK. They are a loose fit so if there was some thermal expansion they should be ok
@davidsheriff89895 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Just thinking as PVC is flammable and toxic...
@MartinsTrainsAdventures5 ай бұрын
ant idea of when i get my order?
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Depends on when you placed it. We quote a minimum of 28 days for despatch and at the moment there is a delay due to a sudden influx of orders
@MartinsTrainsAdventures5 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways 22nd march
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
It's difficult to give exact delivery as each order is unique and takes a different time to print, we will get it too you as soon as possible, or can refund if you would prefer. Probably another week to ten days
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
If you can give me the name on the order or the order number that would help
@jaystarmini5 ай бұрын
Any chance you could check your emails. I've order a double controller box 1st March and no word about it getting sent or any contract just pending on your website
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Sorry, we usually quote 28 days delivery but have had a sudden huge influx which has pushed things back. It will arrive we have the order but will be delayed sorry
@andywilley30415 ай бұрын
Just rang slaters direct and the chap claimed the tube wasn't theirs...said it was from America and their tube is solid??...help
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Sorry I'm sure it was slaters. Might be worth ringing kernow models in Guildford which is where I bought it. It was in a square orange display stand
@nikonuser2u3 ай бұрын
the plastic tubes can be bought from most model shops, even brass ones along with lengths of stiff wire, tell them what you want them for and they will help you choose the right ones.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
@@nikonuser2u thanks for the good advice
@christopherbraiden67135 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, this is a great idea that I will definitely use,saving a great deal of money!!😎🚂🚃🚃🚃🇬🇧
@bugler755 ай бұрын
Keeping the KISS principle! Great idea and thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@tompPRR897623 күн бұрын
Greetings from the USA. I liked this method very much. Thanks for posting. 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
@BudgetModelRailways23 күн бұрын
You are welcome!
@richardtarr27455 ай бұрын
Well done Mike, how wonderfully simple! I'd have thought Doug could have 3D printed some pretty knobs rather than using a pencil - but the main thing is that it works😃
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
He is at uni, so I have lost my 3d capacity lol
@terryglover32155 ай бұрын
I use a similar system for my N gauge. I use half-unwound paper clips with a little hook at the end and put it in the hole next to the dimple. I hold it down with a piece of card glued either side of it. There's going to be a wall between the track and the other end of the paper clip. I call it the 'remote hand of god'.
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
I looked at paper clips but on this occasion they were too short
@terryglover32155 ай бұрын
My points are right at the front. You'll see when I send you pics.
@davidportch88375 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Mike. I am planning to do a simple, long, shelf style layout along one wall- station to fiddle yard in 00. This system will be perfect for that...
@BudgetModelRailways5 ай бұрын
Sounds great!
@Mokkers_stuff5 ай бұрын
Brilliant! A truly "hands on" interactive feature for anyone to try. Love it!