How To Make Sure Your Kick Serve Kicks! - Tennis Lesson

[@cliveburks]

Thanks really comprehensive and clear instruction backed up with demos. I have been eradicating a slight waiters tray aspect to my serve I think that is behind me now. You didn’t mention how Ryan has his strings facing upwards when he starts the motion. I have found this makes spin easier than having strings facing down which seems to suit the flat serve. As you have to pronate to get the topspin I find this helps to ensure I don’t slip back into any waiters tray aspect to my take back. I was using an abbreviated backswing aka Andy Roddick but I struggled to get any topspin seeing Ryan take a longer take back I realise I can do that and still pronate plus this gives more natural rhythm and I believe power. I need a consistent serve with kick with pronation especially for doubles. Something I don’t bottle out of under pressure. Thanks again love your instructions will check out your swing path video. 😊

[@twinwankel]

Thanks for the kettle bell exercise. For me, the kick serve is not difficult if you have a good flat serve. That is, if you pronate well on the flat serve, the kick serve is simply tossing the ball slightly behind you and changing your swing path to hit the ball behind you. As long as you pronate correctly, your ball should kick out. The key is to have a good drop and swing just as hard as your flat serve.

[@vectorthurm]

And 1! Very much appreciate this as I’ve seen this exercise before in other (top junior training regime) video I saw.

[@nicholask2760]

I agree, if you have a good serve it shouldnt be too hard for you to develop the kick serve. Factors such as height can help with the kick serve too!

[@iagreewithyou112]

What's your USTA rating?

[@vectorthurm]

Spot on guys! Making the statement that this a very challenging serve to master and talking about stuff off the court is so much more honest than most videos out there that sugar coat it and try to make this serve more accessible to mortals. I’ve played tennis my whole life (well 10 years old & on) played HS Varsity and at 48, this serve still eludes me simply because: (A) it’s evolution as a serve really occurred after I got into it-I credit Edberg as first real big kicker guy. -and-(B) It’s really f-ing tough to master! Great video guys! P.S. Edberg’s fitness (Along with Becker) was amazing!

[@Playyourcourt]

vectorthurm thank you for the kind words, they’re much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the instruction. No doubt the kicker is a difficult serve to master. Hopefully the instruction provided will help break it down and make it more accessible (with lots of practice). Love the Edberg reference, he was always one of my favorite players.

[@vectorthurm]

@@Playyourcourt Edberg one of my favorites as well. Not sure anyone benefitted more from the kick serve as Stefan did with his S&V game!

[@kunalshah82]

Great vid! I've been facing the same issue with my kick, where it's not moving out. Can't wait to implement this on the court

[@Playyourcourt]

Glad it helped! Let us know how it goes 💪

[@butacaexplosiva333]

Todos tus videos son geniales! Te felicito!

[@jbergman1960]

Great instructional video! Can’t wait to get started on a new kick serve

[@Playyourcourt]

Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it! Let us know how the kick-serve practice goes!

[@johnbenevoli2066]

Great tips, thanks lads!

[@Playyourcourt]

Our pleasure!

[@Player_2895]

Hi , I've noticed that Ryan doest pronate on his quick serve I've seen so many slow mo kick from the pros and it seems like every time they pronate and the hitting part of the racket faces the back fence every time. But Ryan's racket is facing the ground. Can you explain please if it's important? And why all the pros seems to kick serve that way

[@marcosbirocchijr]

Great more advance instructions. However, it d have being more clarifying if you had record some serves facing the court sideview, I always wanted to get explanation that even if it's a circular motion, how much the racquet goes towards the net. Thanks for this amazing content you guys are releasing.

[@Playyourcourt]

Marcos Birocchi thanks Marcos, we appreciate the kind words. We’ve received a lot of feedback regarding the camera view on this particular video, therefore we plan to release additional content showing the kick serve from a side and top angle. Thanks for watching!

[@DynamicsCapitalGroup]

Thank you Scott and Nate, I have been following you for almost two years. Following your advice have helped me to improve my game. I want to practice the kick serve that kicks. How can I do that without hurting my back?

[@Playyourcourt]

Thanks so much for the kind words. We're thrilled to hear we've been able to assist in the improvement of your game. If you have back issues a kickserve can be tricky. You can still achieve a pretty solid kick with focusing on just the hand moving from left to right and loading into the direction of the serve. We have a video coming out soon that I think will help with your question. Stay tuned!

[@colinbyer3018]

Amazing stuff guys thanks so much I started doing that kettlebell thing a long time ago and it really helps with getting the muscle memory of the motion down. What if didn’t know was the whole tuck thing and pushing out to the right. I think this will really help so thanks!

[@Playyourcourt]

Colin Byer thanks for taking the time to leave the feedback Colin, it’s much appreciated. Hope the tip regarding the tuck and pushing to the right helps. Let us know how it goes!

[@capricornmagic63]

Finally someone who knows how to hit a kick serve.

[@Playyourcourt]

💯

[@pauamy0829]

Thanks for this great video on explaining kick serve. I wonder if next time you provide a helicopter view using Drone. My kick serve is kick but not moving forward. May be your second point in the video is correct as my hitting arm to not parallel to the baseline.......A short guy from Hong Kong.

[@johnmerrill5633]

SAME!

[@dmitryprivate6558]

I agree. A helicopter view is essential to learning how to serve right. Flat or kick. Good point.

[@Playyourcourt]

pauamy0829 interesting thought with the drone. The overhead footage is something we’ve been giving a lot of thought. Keeping the swing path parallel to the baseline is critical for a successful kicker. Give it a go and let us know how it progresses. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!

[@alenx5455]

My kick serve has good pace and kicks high and alot towads the right, but its very inconsistent, sometimes I spray it long or in the net, not sure if its my toss that gets messed up or something else.

[@Playyourcourt]

Alen X sometimes if the toss gets to high it can cause issues with the timing. Perhaps play with shortening the toss and even allow the ball to descend just a bit for additional spin. Thanks for watching!

[@maxpowers3732]

What always give me trouble is how far in front and how far left to toss the ball. Sometimes I hit a great kick serve where it just feels right and kicks up to the right, but other times I feel off balance and my serve has nothing on it. I've heard you should let the toss drop a little and also like you said here you need your body going up with the toss into the court. Where should I aiming my toss so I can execute this serve consistently under pressure?

[@Playyourcourt]

Howdy sir, great insight and question. Tossing behind you and leaning in is a concept that a lot of players struggle with at every level. The toss is often more efficient when tossing parallel to the baseline for a kickserve because of this reason. You want to toss the ball so that if you were not to hit it, it would land on your back. It will help if you lean in towards the court before jumping to assist the balls location to stay above you as well. Allowing the ball to drop just slightly will definitely help with the kick. Hope this helps, keep swinging!

[@chheyden]

I will also send this thought via email: What about a right-hander on the deuce side? The kick serve will bounce in (not) out into the opponent for an easier return shot?

[@alexhe1987]

Great video. Just wondering how to execute the kick serve in deuce side? Thanks !

[@Playyourcourt]

Supernovasia honestly, the mechanics don’t change all that much. As the target changes, the direction of the jump and the contact with the ball varies but ultimately the biomechanics are the same. Hope this helps, thanks for watching.

[@alexhe1987]

@@Playyourcourt thanks for replying, I'll give it a try.

[@munchimunch4187]

Thanks guys super helpful, my kick serve has been ok, but I imagine this would help it a lot more

[@Playyourcourt]

Munchi munch glad to hear you enjoyed it. We appreciate you watching and leaving the feedback. Let us know how the kick serve practice goes!

[@kenharris7194]

Great tips!

[@mikecbrblue]

Cool video. Will try these out... Especially the gut tuck, very interesting!

[@Playyourcourt]

mikecbrblue let us know how it goes! Thanks for watching. 🤙🏼

[@jh276]

Could you have Ryan come back and demo the deuce side kick-serve? where should we aim? thank you.

[@Playyourcourt]

We'll have Ryan back very soon! Body and T tend to be the most effective targets on the kick-serve while on the deuce court. Unless you're a lefty then out wide pays dividends. Hope this helps, thanks for watching!

[@francisremedios2530]

Does the racquet hit the left side of the ball for a kick serve?

[@Playyourcourt]

Hi Francis, the racquet strikes the ball on the bottom left as the racquet sweeps from left to right (as a righty). Hope this helps, thanks for watching!

[@kiohnam6269]

Extremely helpful. Here. Take my subscription and likes.

[@Playyourcourt]

lol, we're grateful for the sub and like! Glad the instruction helped!

[@fingersm]

Love your new Radical!

[@Playyourcourt]

frank mancuso definitely enjoying the lower swing weight. Arms not getting any younger unfortunately.

[@fingersm]

PlayYourCourt.com i have switched to it and to my surprise it is very stable. I have always added weight to racquets but this one does not need anything! Very quick raquet

[@nicholask2760]

Great tips

[@delplaya5]

Hey guys, I noticed Ryan doesn't bring his back foot up to meet his front when he springs up to serve like a lot of players do. Is that something he only does on the kick serve or all the time? He just springs up into the serve with his feet separated. Which is better? Does it matter? I hope this makes sense!

[@Playyourcourt]

delplaya5 hi great question. Ryan serves from a platform stance. What your referring to is known as the pinpoint stance. Both stances have their advantage but ultimately they are both really effective. It simply comes down to personal preference. Federer uses platform while Monfils uses pinpoint. Both have great serves. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!

[@GermanShephard123]

I live right by George Mason University. Are you guys located in VA? If so, would love to schedule some lessons?

[@Playyourcourt]

Hi Adnan, We would love to work with you! Be sure to checkout our work with Scott and Nate section on the website. As you can imagine we have limited bandwidth with building out and maintaining the company so we keep the number of students we accept to a minimal each year (Hence the sticker price shock you may experience) Let us know if interested though and we'll set something up!

[@marcodeluca4068]

LIL confused because above your head would be second serve to curve the ball into the serve box not much power so if you have the ball behind your head you would get even less power on your ball. maybe if you showed a side video shot of Ryan's serve it might help us.

[@Playyourcourt]

Marco Deluca we agree, additional views would have been helpful. We’ll release content with several additional views very soon. Thanks for the feedback.

[@ynaglogger3015]

nice Many new tip

[@Playyourcourt]

BA george thank ya sir!

[@jesoby]

Most club players as you point out throw it behind them but stay behind the baseline rather than behind but into the court.

[@Playyourcourt]

jesoby this is true, thanks for highlighting a very important aspect of the instruction. If players can get into the court, specifically in the direction of the kick, their serves will improve immensely.

[@brandtbynum7441]

5.9

[@MAELOB]

He is only an inch or two taller than you guys 😂

[@jackquinnes]

But he is a trunk. Not sure if it is any better than being a twig in tennis though. Be lean and flexible like Djoker, with roots, water, fire, wind and void. ;-O

[@Playyourcourt]

MAELOB lol kids a hoss though, feels like he’s significantly larger when standing next to him. ;)

[@seekheart2023]

I don't see a kick serve, it could just be the geometry of the court, why not have him serve in the deuce to show it actually breaks?

[@Playyourcourt]

Mike Tung perhaps it’s the camera angle or even the geometry but if you look at the trajectory off the bounce you will see the ball striking the curtain well before it would reach its second bounce. That’s the ball breaking and breaking aggressively. We plan to release additional content with several different views to better illustrate the serve. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!

[@omarsultanov362]

A-la Sampras finish of your guest proved to be a flop. Look at the elbow. The elbow was the key of that Sampras's serve element. Secondly, could you dwell bit more on the kick serve ball/racket contact point. Not the usual 7-13, or 8-14 o'clock, but in a 3D logic?

[@vectorthurm]

Yeah I noticed that, but even though he doesn’t have the classic Sampras finish doesn’t prove him as a flop. I would not like to see the video of me trying to return any of Ryan’s serves😆

[@Playyourcourt]

Omar Sultanov A D1 serve is a flop? The major take away in that segment was emphasizing the importance of focusing on the racquet head (tip) facing down. The reference to Sampras was simply to provide a visual. Granted Ryan’s elbow didn’t stay up but that wasn’t necessarily the goal. We plan to release an overhead view of the serve, hopefully that provides the details you’re looking for regarding the contact point. Thanks for watching.

[@Playyourcourt]

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[@mercybudiono7399]

Joss

[@mikeshoup3550]

Thanks, but could you guys speak with a thick southern accent and use German subtitles? Also please provide a pov camera angle by surgically implanting a camera in your eye, and maybe another camera inside the ball? Thanks!

[@gustafsongb]

Roger that, Mike.

[@Playyourcourt]

Mike Shoup 🤣 done and done! ✅ ✅

[@pankunikarn8947]

Ryan is hot

[@Atomium001]

Youre gone show me ? Talk ...talk... talk....

[@Playyourcourt]

Hans-Friedrich Marie Erichsen so as we were saying...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Thanks for the warm and fuzzies Hans ;)

[@coachnguyen]

Nothing to learnn you guys talked toooooooooomuch.

[@Playyourcourt]

Frank Nguyen well that’s unfortunate, shame you feel that way Frank.