Visited a relative, Grant, in Marysville, Michigan some years ago. He took me out for a ride in his Wills Gray Goose. Impressive engineering for an early 20's car.
@edsumler309 ай бұрын
Great idea. A lot cheaper than clamps made for fab tables!
@ericmcmahon1812 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I am in the pricess of makings these clamps. Thanks for the tip about welding them at an angle.
@Kingsize247 жыл бұрын
Thanks for killing that buzz. Has been driving me nuts for a while! Great ideas as well.
@oddfoxchassis7864 жыл бұрын
Just went and bought some of these clamps for my welding table.com unit, thanks for the tips
@mustangrebuilder3 жыл бұрын
One KZbinr tp another great job
@jvazquez533 жыл бұрын
I made some but used 5/8" shoulder bolts. Very precise
@mmartuscelli3 жыл бұрын
Hi José Can u Tell me the size of your table holes ? If the bolt is 5/8 16mm , the hole is 16.2mm ?
@rendel50245 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm new to welding, having only dabbled with it before. Recently bought a similar table with a 40 piece clamp set on sale, but this is a good way to get a bunch of extra clamps. Cheers
@macadamia19664 жыл бұрын
I am in the process of building my certi-flat 30x30 table and I think I'll make a set of clamps to use before I weld up the base kit. Thank you for the information. BTW, I know this video is almost 3 years old, but I'll answer some questions that I saw in the comments... The holes in the certi-flat table are standard 16mm holes. If you purchase one of the certi-flat fixtures, they will come with 16mm shoulder bolts for mounting. 5/8" = 15.875mm. This means that the 5/8" round stock, shoulder bolts, and other hardware will work as well as any that uses 16mm. The holes are in a grid pattern 2" (on center) apart in the perpendicular plane and 2.828" (on center) in the diagonal plane. (Used the Pythagorean Theorem: c^2=a^2+b^2). The fabBlock tables come standard at 1/4" thick hot-rolled steel, with the option of 3/8" & 1/2". There are other table styles they sell that are a bit different and they may have a thinner top. I would not recommend this style of clamp in a table top that is less than 1/4" thick. The angle required to make this clamp work is called the "cant". It is the angle from vertical required for the clamp to work. If you know what a holdfast is and how to use it, then you will understand why this slight angle is necessary. In woodworking, some of the workbenches have dog holes in them, similar to this welding table. The woodworking workbench is much thicker, usually between 2.5" and 6"+ depending on the style and the maker's needs. A holdfast is a piece of bent round stock just a bit past 90°, shaped like a Greek capital letter lambda. The tip of the upper end of the holdfast is hammered flat. This is what is placed on the work piece to clamp. The other end is placed into the dog hole of the workbench. The woodworker then strikes the holdfast at the bend, driving it into the dog hole at an angle. This angle causes the holdfast to grip the dog hole with more surface area, causing a much greater clamping force. If the holdfast head was not angled past 90°, the part in the dog hole would not be at an angle and would not hold. I've seen a couple of woodworkers pick up a large work bench using a hoist and 4 holdfasts, one in each corner. The clamp described in this video works the same way, but on a much smaller scale. Since the table surface is only 1/4" thick, the cant does not need to be that much of an angle for it to grip in the hole. For those who noticed that the table was moving, especially when he was testing the clamping force on the 4x4, the table can be mounted on casters. I suspect that this was the case for his table. Also, if you purchase the base kit from weldtables.com, it comes with dual locking casters - they lock the caster from rolling and from pivoting. This is a very stable platform with the casters locked, but it will never be as solid as a table mounted to a fixed surface. The tables can be found at: weldtables.com (disclaimer: I am not affiliated with this channel or with weldtables.com. I am just a consumer who did his due-diligence prior to making this substantial purchase. I came here to see how to make the clamps...)
@derekbell53333 жыл бұрын
I made some clamps with 5/8 bolts for my 16mm weld table and the don’t work. There is too much play and the clamps won’t grab. Any ideas how to fix this? Paint or powder coat?
@theewelder2 жыл бұрын
@@derekbell5333 easy fix......... with calipers....find that hole exact size.....grab roundstock(1/16 smaller diamter)......cut off the crap round sloppy roundstock and re-weld new round stck with a snug fit....done?
@annpeerkat202010 ай бұрын
thanks belatedly for your comprehensive post.... a lot more useful than the original video.
@alsaffarstudios3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with us 🙏🏼
@JacobAHull-nx6rx4 жыл бұрын
just finished building my first welding table now onto those great clamps!! Was gonna post a pic of my table but can't find anyway to load it up.
@alcyr56557 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the simple, and clear explanation. Always wondered how they worked. Baffled me, kinda like magic, LOL.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
lol yeah they do work like magic
@Romanm19577 жыл бұрын
Kyle Thank you for the clamp explanation! Not only I now know how it works but how to build them cheaply! Now I really want one of those tables! UGH! This channel is going to cost me! LOL
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
lol
@AustinDaniel917 жыл бұрын
Dude that table setup is dope. Im definitely going to start saving up. Also you can really tell you listen to your viewers and I just wanna say thanks for what your doin bro.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
+DG Fabrication thanks man
@TheMeta67 жыл бұрын
We just switched to led strip lights at work, it makes such a difference!
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
yeah but not cheap
@TheMeta67 жыл бұрын
We just replaced the tubes instead our getting complete led units to keep the cost down. Still not cheap though
@hoss22007 жыл бұрын
Great job man. Simplicity doesn't mean its easy
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@hoss22007 жыл бұрын
The Fab Forums i wanna lear to weld. I have a few projects in mind, but i need learn more about this field. I love your channel and how well you explain the procedure
@agguilarmetalwork44944 жыл бұрын
Thanks great information super simple design
@marksleeper93852 жыл бұрын
great vid what was you using for big wire for welding
@markgilder77576 жыл бұрын
Im gonna knock some of those up for my woodwork bench. What a great fixture.
@robperolli7 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Really like the clamp modifications, you can never have too many styles. Just wanted to let you know these are called F style or f bar clamps. Bessey is a name brand.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
gotcha
@rwg7272 жыл бұрын
Do you know if these types of clamps would work in a 3/16” welding table? Thanks for sharing your videos!
@grantroberts7065 Жыл бұрын
I just watched another channel and the bloke did the same thing trying to get the end off the clamp. A lot quicker and easier just to cut it off just above the end.
@rudyrivera52563 жыл бұрын
Thanks! For sharing! 🤙🏻
@78fenderPbass4 жыл бұрын
What size hole is in the table? You mention the bolt is 5/8" so is the hole in the table metric so it is ever so slightly larger?
@travis84042 жыл бұрын
do you think it would work on a 3/8 table ? I'm guessing your table is 1/2, would there be enough bind in 3/8 table for the clamp to work?
@carlthornton30763 жыл бұрын
Very Good!..
@sadegh8512 жыл бұрын
good video..thanks
@casper12403 жыл бұрын
great idea cheers
@boosted2.4_sky7 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of these Harbor Freight clamps... not on Welding Table or anything but they're actually pretty good... and if any of them ever crap out on you get a new one for 4 bucks
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
+Craig Cundiff For sure
@alessio555554 жыл бұрын
good job, what is the thickness of the welding table?
@pro13427 жыл бұрын
Video on the LED upgrades would be cool. I've got old Florescent lights in my shop and am looking to update.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
I will see what I can do
@EmmaCraib2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kiaypp6 жыл бұрын
Very Nice!
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
thanks
@Kodiak6607 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@celsoguajardovillarreal7 жыл бұрын
excelente mesa de trabajo, se acomoda muy bien. saludos desde Apodaca Nuevo Leon Mexico.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@TheMick267 жыл бұрын
A simple solution is the best solution. And if that solution is also inexpensive, that's even better. Nice job on the clamps, man! BTW, I'm gonna miss that hum. Honestly didn't notice until you mentioned it, then it seemed very obvious. haha.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
lol
@johnjackson-pu3xo7 жыл бұрын
Chucking genius
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
lol
@quickstart-M515 жыл бұрын
Do the Harbor Freight clamps provide an unbroken electrical connection from table to work so they can be used as a ground?
@Thefabforums5 жыл бұрын
yeah
@misfitfarm19374 жыл бұрын
Ty. Great
@STohme5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thanks.
@Thefabforums5 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@peterelios75684 жыл бұрын
Niiiice, thank you!
@michalpodlinski514 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is the thickness of the sheet metal the table is made of? is stiff?
@adollarshort15734 жыл бұрын
Great vid and info! Thank You! Is that a wood burning stove in back? What kind is it? My garage gets damn cold in winter!
@haroldwatkins70597 жыл бұрын
Great information my friend. Thank you.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
no problem
@butchallen9944 Жыл бұрын
you could weld tee nuts on them also
@91rss4 жыл бұрын
on the old C clamp tack a nut on the top so your nut driver on a drill can run it up ad down fast
@ceesteven7 жыл бұрын
Nice shop. Thanks man.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
+Japers Trills thanks
@bradthurkle72174 жыл бұрын
Clever idea 💡 thanks 🙏🏻 for sharing. I’ll give this a crack fasure.
@donaldpowers55577 жыл бұрын
I still want a welding table.....guess I'll have to build my own.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
yeah for sure
@jpisow6 жыл бұрын
These are known as F- Clamps in the woodworking community and if one breaks you can take it back to HF and no questions asked they will replace it (without a receipt even) which is as far as i know, a lot more than Bessey can offer....through the big box anyway. You cant go wrong with these cheapo's and i mostly mean price-wise as i haven't broke but one yet in two years of use and i haveabout 20 of em.
@KeepingitAnalog6 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@DestroyersGarage7 жыл бұрын
with the gclamp ones wels a nut on the moving part then you can drive them down and up with a drill ect...
@hermanschijf214 жыл бұрын
This works
@mmartuscelli3 жыл бұрын
Can u Tell me the size of the table holes? If the bolt is 16mm (5/8) How about the holes?
@rondumontier11876 жыл бұрын
Nice. But more interested in your angle device on your table u used
@ab_customz_llc6 жыл бұрын
What song is played at the end. Great working in the shop music.
@Tearstank4 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I was looking at the Bessey clamps for small wood miterbox but it cost 125 Dollars for a set of 2.... I will find something cheap and do what you did :)
@Aleksandr_TexMaster7 жыл бұрын
приятно и познавательно смотреть твои видео !!!
@hoagiesherlin77327 жыл бұрын
Thats kooler than dang it!!!
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
yeah very simple
@AlecMoody7 жыл бұрын
That's a nice cheap solution. Name brand welding clamps have always seemed overpriced for use outside of a production shop. When I built my certiflat table I ended up buying the clamps for the stronghand fixturepoint table. If I remember correctly the hold down clamps were less than $20 and they also have Vblocks, spacers, and stops that work well with these tables.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
yeah I have seen those. not sure if I am going to buy some or try to make my own style
@stormbytes5 жыл бұрын
How did you slot the rod?
@Thefabforums5 жыл бұрын
I think I used my bandsaw
@callofgeorge7 жыл бұрын
sure there's a video somewhere you did, but where'd you get your table? and price?
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
yeah its from weldtables.com...this particular table is around $1000 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJbQk2itrth7pdU
@gkin1127 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem solid at all when you were yanking on the 4x4 and the entire table was wobbling. You have it mounted on casters or something?
@personalphotography-bulgar64456 жыл бұрын
Hello What is the price to make a RIGHT corner, I saw it on the clip. It is very functional
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
not sure I know what your talking about
@personalphotography-bulgar64456 жыл бұрын
triangle - right angle is used for welding
@gunsntorches7 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing as soon as i got my fixture table
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
yeah you got to have some kind of clamps for sure
@ucesuherman1845 жыл бұрын
Theng you..
@cri8tor4 жыл бұрын
So you put your bessey rod into a lot of slots on that table and then pull out real easy even if you got wood.
@marioflores7685 жыл бұрын
What is the thickness of the table?
@nathanielphinney84927 жыл бұрын
How did your friends drift wagon tern out
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
It turned out nice....we plan to do an update soon
@nathanielphinney84927 жыл бұрын
I’m designing my 76 mustang II and I really like your channel and I like the metal work you and your friend do.
@AndrewBrowner7 жыл бұрын
looks like you need to sturdy up those table legs.. got more shake than my grandfather with parkinsons
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Browner nah
@jamesriley83916 жыл бұрын
That’s what I noticed
@joselrodriguez59996 жыл бұрын
Great idea! PS: Is it wrong that the only things I weld is more welding tools/jigs etc? :D
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
nope
@charlesgallegos35755 жыл бұрын
What kind of table is that sir?
@Thefabforums5 жыл бұрын
certiflat from weldtables.com
@theTIVANshow7 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@malcolmyoung78667 жыл бұрын
SAAHWEET!!
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
they work great
@ndrpz7 жыл бұрын
Kyle, where you been man? Last post was way back in December. Hope everything is well with you and yours!
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
I post weekly
@racrx76 жыл бұрын
I see a new project in my near future lol
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
They work awesome
@mikem9584 Жыл бұрын
The video "starts" immediately BUT the how-to not til 3:42. Jump ahead and skip the schspiel!
@P463456 жыл бұрын
Check out Vocha Alloy's video called Cheap alternative to a Festool clamp. It basically bends a hook on the end instead of the bind method. ;-)
@terrinewman73907 жыл бұрын
I've already seen a video this dated almost a week earlier.
@ClearlyShieldblock7 жыл бұрын
These harbor freight clamps have a tendency to get loose on the back side where the grooves are so they don't always stay tight. Just something I've come across.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
gotcha
@olecranonrebellion99764 жыл бұрын
Why is your table so shaky?
@pbmachines9727 жыл бұрын
I have a serious clamp addiction Kyle I think I need help
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
lol
@joshuamartin50954 жыл бұрын
Looks like I’m going to harbor freight
@rogertaylor86159 ай бұрын
They have stronger ones cheap price and Brandon lund welding channel made his but he made his with shoulder bolts which also made stops with them to
@2steelshells6 жыл бұрын
A guy called wesly treat had same idea .
@clampplus7357 жыл бұрын
If you want to use something much faster , you should checkout this guys website. He makes a toggle clamp for these welding tables , I think its called (clampplus).
@brapppforum7 жыл бұрын
Your wife let you go outside with that haircut? Just messing with you. Love your videos.
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
lol...she dont care
@ladykay84 жыл бұрын
toggle or vise-grip style clamps are way faster., and there are a ton of really useful mods you can do. Harbor freight is good for some things, but good quality clamps is not one of them. Over time that jaw will randomly stop gripping the bar as well. Now, I totally get the need to do something on the less expensive side. But you can fab better clamps by seeing the good stuff in action. The sliding adjustable clamp you were trying to remember the name for is a T-post clamp. Go watch this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYGae2ukaNeqaM0
@ab_customz_llc6 жыл бұрын
Anybody know?
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
yeah
@ab_customz_llc6 жыл бұрын
The Fab Forums can you tell me then please? The name of the song as your video ended?
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
Its just stock audio from the youtube audio library
@ab_customz_llc6 жыл бұрын
The Fab Forums oh okay thx. Great job on all your vids too.
@madams221007 жыл бұрын
i fucks with it lol good stuff!!!
@unitedstatesofbuild49157 жыл бұрын
Nice job Kyle. I like your style. I did the same thing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6vViJmAe5aagJI Another thing Ive added is a 1-2' length of square stock with a appropriate sized stud on the bottom that can be placed into a hole and used to clamp items to, Its just a cheap way to fixture stuff that has to be held at an odd angle to the work piece. See you later!
@Thefabforums7 жыл бұрын
nice ! they come in handy for sure
@dustinmeier97537 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about taking 2 of the 5/8 dowels that would slide into two adjacent holes and threading some all thread through some square stock on the horizontal plane (welding the square stock to both dowels 90 degrees out from the threaded hole in the square stock). This would let you have some adjustment to your stops because you never know when you'll need to fixture something up to a 1/16" .... kinda hard to do that with the spread without having something adjustable to drop in. ... Does this make sense? Just now thinking about it, lay one of those clamps on its side and weld on dowel in the end and the second one to slide into the next hole. Done (ish).
@grantforsythe12806 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be that guy but...technically they are an "F" Clamp and Bessey is a company that makes several styles of high quality clamps. I just thought it might help when searching online for them.
@Thefabforums6 жыл бұрын
its only an F clamp before I modify it. I was reffering to the table fixture clamp when I said Bessy Clamp. weldtables.com/collections/clamps-accessories/products/bessey-16mm-welding-table-clamp-composite-handle-variable-throat