How To Make Your Own Wipe on Poly | Easy Home Made Woodworking Finish

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@VaracolacidVesci
@VaracolacidVesci 4 жыл бұрын
And make sure you pour plenty of solvent on your bench!!! Loved it
@EricEllenbrook
@EricEllenbrook 7 жыл бұрын
A tip for those who have issues pouring. Stick a stir stick, scrap piece of wood, or even a gloved finger into the jar and then pour the contents onto that stick. The surface tension will make the liquid stick to the object and go into the jar rather than stick to the side of the container and go all over your bench. I learned it by being around chefs in the kitchen!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
fun idea. I have a funnel I use for the first poor out of a can, but I completely forgot to grab it. LOL
@luisantoniogalvezheras2792
@luisantoniogalvezheras2792 6 жыл бұрын
i use those little jelly cups are mainly used for jelly shots, that way i can keep everything clean, including cans
@GradyElla
@GradyElla 3 жыл бұрын
Having just dumped probably a half pint of dark walnut danish oil on my woodworking bench (don't even ask!) I now have the inspiration to just proceed to the top coat. I'll start by mixing equal parts of poly and thinner directly on the surface now that we have both mastered our application technique! I feel your pain little brother, been there, done that.
@KevinDrevik
@KevinDrevik 9 ай бұрын
Really liked this one. Always good to learn something new! Great job.
@middleroad00
@middleroad00 5 жыл бұрын
AFTER doing an oak king size platform bed, I stumble across this fine piece of info. Handy tip that will be put to use. Did not know you could thin poly....
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Good information late. Sorry. Yup thinned poly is so much easier.
@tommypers7973
@tommypers7973 2 жыл бұрын
When you have left over mix do you keep and use it another time ?
@tommypers7973
@tommypers7973 2 жыл бұрын
I got the answer from the very end of your video thank you
@Busterblader13
@Busterblader13 9 ай бұрын
Curious on shelf life once mixed.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 9 ай бұрын
Years as long as you keep it sealed.
@Busterblader13
@Busterblader13 9 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWright good to know. I opened a can of poly once and poured some out. Sealed the lid and in a few weeks it was done for. So i try and stay away from it. I assumed at least a year for this mixture with all the mineral spirits in it. Im building a drill press table and want to do a poly finish on the top. Love your videos btw. Thanks for the knowledge and inspiration.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like some air got in there even with a full gallon of air at the top it is usually only enough to form a skim on the top.
@LEO-xo9cz
@LEO-xo9cz 4 жыл бұрын
Can Polly be applied over linseed?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Sure. As long as the oil has polymerized first. depending upon which one you use that's anywhere from 24 hours to a couple weeks. But if that is too slow you can put a layer of shellac over it and then put poly on top of that.
@JEANEREANO
@JEANEREANO 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use this as a wood conditioner before staining ???
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
If you send it out a bit more and just use one coat it might work for that however it would not be great as the polyurethane is not as porous as others. This usually would go on after a stain to protect the wood.
@JEANEREANO
@JEANEREANO 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright ... thanks !
@jimbol8695
@jimbol8695 7 жыл бұрын
I heard once that a funnel is a "hand tool".
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL yup. a sissy hand tool. LOL
@scottpardoe6349
@scottpardoe6349 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advise on the colour identification. Great video
@joelcleare
@joelcleare 9 ай бұрын
Still relevant. I used 2 parts minwax poly and 1 part mineral spirits (order less ). Worked out excellent.
@joemungle7734
@joemungle7734 3 жыл бұрын
Would this finish work with a sanded down epoxy tabletop
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
If you're saying a table top that has an epoxy coating on the top of it then no. The epoxy is the final finish on it and it shouldn't need anything else. If you're talking about a table that has an epoxy fill in one place or another and would in others then this would work. However this is not a durable finish and I really wouldn't want to use it on a table top. Usually my go-to in that case is Rubio monocoat It is one of the easiest and most enjoyable finishes to apply and it looks just like oil density oil and paste wax when it's done. But it is very protective and will give you years of a great surface.
@joemungle7734
@joemungle7734 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jakedevillier5863
@jakedevillier5863 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I recently started adding BLO to my mix (equal parts everything). I don't know what benefit it has but I saw the Alabama woodworker do it so I gave it shot.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup A lot of people do that. really adds to the color. I have done that before on the first 3 coats.
@mick2spic
@mick2spic Жыл бұрын
What do think is a good mix for red cedar paneling? Would 60% poly / 30% mineral spirits/ 10% linseed oil work decent? Looking for something a little thick for less coats needed, looking to just wipe on 2 coats @@WoodByWright
@martkt10
@martkt10 5 жыл бұрын
Would this mix also seal the wood or should i still use a wood sealer
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Wood sealer is a baud term covering several product categories. are you talking about a pre finish, a water tight finish, a stain resistant finish, or what in particular are you wanting to seal out? as to sealing a table top this will protect the wood from water spills (providing the wood is not over porous) and most scratches.
@martkt10
@martkt10 5 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright I'm a hobby woodturner and when i use a polly finish with a sanding sealer it always goes funny weather the polly is oil based or water based
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
@@martkt10 oh ok. for a pre-finish sealer I generally only use that for wood I know will go blotchy such as maple or pine. but yes. a thinner poly coat will adhere better to a pre-sealed surface then full strength poly.
@lateepiphany
@lateepiphany 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!
@DylansDIYWorkshop
@DylansDIYWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Poly was what I was looking for at the store today. Is there a way to get a satin finish from the homemade version you have there?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
you just buy the satin poly. once you have a few coats you can wet sand it to your desired finish. ending around a 330 grit will give you a very matt finish. satin is around 400-600 in my book.
@macdc96
@macdc96 3 жыл бұрын
Can i use turpentine instead of mineral spirits?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
it can work but not as well.
@JimDockrellWatertone
@JimDockrellWatertone 7 жыл бұрын
....and as a side benefit, a section of your bench gets another coat of finish, or as we call it....character.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I am always dumping more finish on the bench. looking forward to seeing what it looks like 10 years from now!
@DylansDIYWorkshop
@DylansDIYWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright I love the look of my grandfather's work bench. Over 30 years of stains spilling on it. Looks amazing!
@andydrinkwater5337
@andydrinkwater5337 2 жыл бұрын
good looking guy. love the video
@jamesGT78
@jamesGT78 4 жыл бұрын
Will it last as long as buying a can regular wipe on poly or does it go off if you get me?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yup the exact same shelf life.
@jamesGT78
@jamesGT78 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thanks. I've been using it for model ships but only making it up as I need. Now I can just make a big batch of it. Alot handier. Thanks again.
@jamesballardjr6821
@jamesballardjr6821 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use Oil Modified Polyurethane and mineral of spirits?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Ashish-sp4hw
@Ashish-sp4hw 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can I use turpentine instead of mineral spirit?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Sure. If you're okay with the smell. Some people just don't like that as much.
@douglasjolliff2406
@douglasjolliff2406 7 жыл бұрын
Nice money saving tip
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks Douglas!
@wegaboo
@wegaboo 3 жыл бұрын
Ia it possible to make a (water based) wipe on poly?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Sure. With water-based polyurethane you can dilute it with just water.
@wegaboo
@wegaboo 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thank you very much bro
@floridagirl9064
@floridagirl9064 4 жыл бұрын
Can i do this with spar urethane?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
You can but you'll probably want to use a different thinner. you'll have to look at your particular brand and see which thinner they use in it.
@floridagirl9064
@floridagirl9064 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright i freaking did it before you reapinded. I hope it doesnt F up. Please send good thoughts... I did a desk, an antique sewing box...& an antique dresser before i read this.
@6atlantis
@6atlantis Жыл бұрын
Hi. Can I use regular clear gloss poly in the mix? Mine isn’t fast drying like yours.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
Sure can. It is the same method.
@6atlantis
@6atlantis Жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thanks
@rid1coza
@rid1coza 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You, I had no idea such a thing existed, Im a noob at woodwork, made a desk and varnished the top. My Initial Finish was so ugly and upon googling i found out how to get it smooth as glass by sanding down using rough to smooth water papers in that order. Got that right and smooth as glass but the smoothest paper I could find was 1200 grit and the last bit of scratches though smooth were just not coming off with a machine polish. Back to google i found another video showing a wooden floor repair using a product called Wipe On Poly, so i googled again and thats how I found your solution, I made your solution using Lacquer Thinners and Polyurethane and the desk is looking great now just gave 2 coats so far, will give another 2 coats and Im done and the nicest thing is it doesnt take half a day to dry, it's dry within 30 minutes. I tried 3 different big name hardware stores here in Cape Town, South Africa and the smoothest water paper i could find was 1200 grit at only one of the stores and neither of them had "mineral spirits" but looking at the comments I assumed Lacquer thinners would work and it clearly does work with the glossy finish Polyurethane.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Lacquer thinner will work fine. In other parts of the world they call mineral spirits white spirits. So it might be named that where you're at.
@rid1coza
@rid1coza 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright The only things I saw close to spirits were "methylated Spirits" and "Spirits of Salts" and close to Mineral the only thing I saw was Mineral Turpentine - which when reading label said its slow drying which would defeat the purpose. Thanks for your response. The desk surface looks way better now, still going to give the 3rd and fourth coats tomorrow after the first and second coat has a bit more time for dry out even though its dry to touch .
@joeldwolf
@joeldwolf 7 жыл бұрын
Can this be done with a spar varnish ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
+Joel Liebman no that is a different cemical deal. I might have to do a video on that
@joeldwolf
@joeldwolf 7 жыл бұрын
another finisher who thins brushing finishes claims you can do the same with spar varnish.. Your answer is not clear. You say no but also want to do a video on it ?
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip. "Stirred, not shaken". So anti-Bond, anti-James Bond. LOL
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
that is because I am right - James Wright!
@MoravecMarek
@MoravecMarek 6 жыл бұрын
And my glue is Bond - Tite Bond!
@TrophyJoe
@TrophyJoe 3 жыл бұрын
And you only took 4:23 to say 50% oil base poly and 50% mineral spirits. So many others like to gab endlessly. Thank you!
@TrophyJoe
@TrophyJoe 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I do enjoy your channel. No snark intended.
@rid1coza
@rid1coza 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrophyJoe He gave the recipe away at 2:11 so he took exactly half that time
@yoheff988
@yoheff988 9 ай бұрын
can you use turpentine?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 9 ай бұрын
Yes. Different people use different kinds of thinners.
@authenticsailor9808
@authenticsailor9808 4 жыл бұрын
Could I add a splash of oil based minwax stain to this formula to add a little color?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
sure if you want to, but it is often better to apply them separately so the stain gets a more even coat. then put the protectant on top of that.
@authenticsailor9808
@authenticsailor9808 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thanks for the quick response, I'll try it on a sample piece first. My goal is I don't want a full stain color, just a subtle hint of it
@Asherr6
@Asherr6 4 жыл бұрын
Can you add stain to this mixture? Have a tinted wipe on poly?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
You can but generally you apply seperatly for better control of the color.
@blackfender100
@blackfender100 7 жыл бұрын
I have tried this James and the finish works well.But and it's a bug but if I put in a very well sealed Jar in a short time period it is the consistancy of jelly.and will not stay thinned out ever again.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
true you got to keep the air out. I try to keep a full jar so there is little air at the top.
@sundu21
@sundu21 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea n a great video. Thanks 😊
@BillHartCooks.
@BillHartCooks. 7 жыл бұрын
Another good video. Two down Twenty eight to go! WooHoo!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
OH YA!
@kle2217
@kle2217 4 жыл бұрын
Could I use paint thinner instead of mineral spirits? Mineral spirits is getting harder to find in the big box stores now a days. And could I add a little linseed oil to this mix?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Paint center will work okay most of the time. Lacquer center would be a little bit better but I would do a test first just to make sure.
@DylansDIYWorkshop
@DylansDIYWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Ayyy day two!!! Keep it up man!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
OH YA!!
@juanantonioespinosa8816
@juanantonioespinosa8816 3 жыл бұрын
Uuuh.. thanks a lot. I was loocking for Minwax wipe-on poly like a fool without success, here in Costa Rica, for a self bow finish. Now I'll buy a local poliurethane poly brand and mix it with solvent as you show. Do you think is going to be a problem if I aply the wipe on poly over the self bow if I've already aplied a couple hands od boiled linseed oil?.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
That will work fine. As long as it's dry to the touch, it shouldn't be an issue at all.
@henrysscrollsawworks6367
@henrysscrollsawworks6367 5 жыл бұрын
how long will wipe own poly last in the mason jar
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
depends. I usually use it up at least once a year. maybe as long as 2 years.
@henrysscrollsawworks6367
@henrysscrollsawworks6367 5 жыл бұрын
thank info.
@lenalove8138
@lenalove8138 5 жыл бұрын
No bells, no whistles...... kept it real simple....... just 1+1=2 .......thanks!!!!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Right on. Love to keep it simple!
@z1catfish
@z1catfish 7 жыл бұрын
Another great combo is poly and linseed oil 50/50
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup. one of the many mixes that make danish oil. there are more recipes then there are woodworkers. LOL
@Dm65-gpy
@Dm65-gpy 6 жыл бұрын
What do you use to wipe it on with? If going for a semi gloss finish will this change after deluting?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
no the gloss does not change. that is determined by the grain thickness. I use blue shop towels or an old sock.
@Dm65-gpy
@Dm65-gpy 6 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright when mine dries I see strinks in the finish. Looks like areas were there are no poly but there is..
@superdukedad
@superdukedad 6 жыл бұрын
New to the wood working world thanks to new, unfinished, cabinets. Settled on the wiping method for application, but went with a water based, satin poly. Experimented with many different ratios and found that NOT thinning the water based poly gave the best result. Have two coats on currently, but am curious as to how many are "recommended". Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Yup with water based you can just wipe it on with out deluteing it. How many coats depends on how thin you paint it on. I go fairly thin and end up with 5 coats. But some will go thick and stop at 3.
@superdukedad
@superdukedad 6 жыл бұрын
Thank a bunch, you have been a great resource through all of this!
@jaredmiller7
@jaredmiller7 4 жыл бұрын
Any idea if you can put the water based Polycrylic over linseed oil ...raw or boiled?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Sure. With BLO you just have to wait for it to fully set which is usually 24 to 48 hours with raw raw you have to wait for it to fully set but that can take a week or two. Once it's fully cured then you can put a water-based poly on top of it.
@adamwilson4834
@adamwilson4834 6 жыл бұрын
Can this be used over a blo finish?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. I do that quite often.
@nahuelgalmarini117
@nahuelgalmarini117 4 жыл бұрын
I have water based poly. Can I just use water and apply the same directions?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Just add water.
@nahuelgalmarini117
@nahuelgalmarini117 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Much appreciated!! Keep making videos for us!! They are the best. Thank you again
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome information. What would be best to build up quickly straight poly then mixed or mixed then straight also results are most important Thank You for all your help.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
with poly the only quick way is spraying. the thicker you make the coats the bigger the chance of a messy finish. I usually do 5 thin coats with 2 hours in between and sanding after the first 3.
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 7 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright Thank You James.
@lisakennealy1695
@lisakennealy1695 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that great info. What's the secret for the water based one? Can I make that from PVA?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
With Water based you just add water to thin it out.
@lisakennealy1695
@lisakennealy1695 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright oh yes. Of course! But I was thinking can I make the original thing. What is it? Do you know?
@paulmormile5763
@paulmormile5763 7 жыл бұрын
Been doing this for years. A tip for wipe on poly. Put a piece of wax paper between the jar and lid. This way you don't seal the lid to the jar.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup. that is a good one. I do that with a lot of mine.
@chrisalbright4825
@chrisalbright4825 6 жыл бұрын
I have also used the thin white (or pink) plumbers tape to provide similar results.
@coachrooney3145
@coachrooney3145 2 жыл бұрын
Would this work with the polyshade. The poly with stain
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it is oil based this will work. If you chose a water based version you just use water instead.
@cobberpete1
@cobberpete1 7 жыл бұрын
I'm using Minwax Poly as you post.. It's going on a little thick and I wish I had diluted it down. maybe for my next coat I should use your recipe. Thanks James
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
it makes it so much easier to wipe on.
@anhtuyentran
@anhtuyentran 4 жыл бұрын
A great clip, James! I have a question about the sheen, but how about the sheen of the diluted product? If I start with semi-gloss poly, will I get the same semi-gloss wipe-on poly?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It'll get the exact same sheen out of it. It doesn't change what actually goes on to the wood it just thins it out so you're putting a much lighter layer on with each coat.
@jayc3110
@jayc3110 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. A Simple method. -- I intend to try it... I wonder if you can throw in some stain also if doing a project with unfinished pine? - Would love to know if you have tried this also... Thank you for sharing this tip.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
You can add stain, but I would only do it on the first coat. It needs to soak in. Also this would dilute the stain and make it a lighter color.
@jayc3110
@jayc3110 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks... I have another question on a small project: Will this wipe on poly (Approx. 50 - 50 Mix), if used on nicely sanded, "UNFINISHED & UNSTAINED" wood panel provide a good result? - (This is because I want the color of the unfinished unstained wood panel to remain basically unchanged and as light as possible). Have you tried this in any application and how did it work? - Hoping to hear from you... Thanks again for your help.@@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
@@jayc3110 As this is oil based the oil will bring out the true tone darkening the wood. for the look of unfinished wood, you want to use Water based Poly. you can do the same thing but you just cut that with water 50/50.
@davidthompson5761
@davidthompson5761 5 жыл бұрын
If you dilute the product/poly, I'm going to use Waterlox topcoat (Gloss), does it change the gloss factor or do you need to put on more coats to achieve the same gloss factor?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
that depends on howmany coats of poly you out on and what sheen the poly has. but I would ask why you would do that. waterlox would be better to put on first to get that oil color.
@opasworkshop8373
@opasworkshop8373 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip James thanks for sharing brother. By the way how big was that glass jar?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thansk Opa! not quite sure how big it is. why?
@opasworkshop8373
@opasworkshop8373 7 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright I was just wondering because I've got some big mason jars and I guess that'll be okay as long as I do equal parts thanks for the video James.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup. for the big ones where you might not use them that often. I would close them with a piece of wax paper between the lid and jar so they to not glue down.
@garymccoy2888
@garymccoy2888 7 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright ..a piece of a plastic grocery bag works as well...al.la. John Heinz.
@lauravardy2890
@lauravardy2890 7 жыл бұрын
This is such a good idea, my dad always just buys stuff like this. I'm going to save him £££££s.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
don't have too much fun!
@andreaseliades7212
@andreaseliades7212 Жыл бұрын
In my country (Cyprus) I cannot find minwax fast drying polyurethane... I can find two part clear polyurethane though... What do I do in that case to make wipe poly? Is it possible to use poly without hardener and mix with mineral spirit as the video?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a two-part poly. I'm kind of interested in it. Most of the time. If it goes to two part, it's a resin or a new hard wax.
@LarryB-inFL
@LarryB-inFL 6 жыл бұрын
Good succinct video, but I was a bit puzzled by you avoiding shaking the poly because of bubbles...since you are about to pour it into the mineral spirits, where bubbles are not a problem, and the bubbles will settle out of the poly.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
when you thin it out the bubbles are not a problem as they will escape in a few seconds. with full thickness it can take minutes or hours for them to come out.
@j_2_the_izoe
@j_2_the_izoe 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any sort of restriction as far as shelf life when mixing your own?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
I have not found a shelf life. But I tend to not mix up more than I'll use in a year.
@j_2_the_izoe
@j_2_the_izoe 5 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thank you for the timely response! I'm finishing up a bed frame and picked up some poly and mineral spirits and I wasnt sure if I should wait until directly before applying it or not. Love your channel by the way!
@NewYears1978
@NewYears1978 Ай бұрын
If doing a 50/50 mix how long do you need to wait between coats. Normal Wipe On that you buy claims 3-4 hours but is this 50/50 mix quicker?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Ай бұрын
With wipe on you can reapply when dry to the touch
@NewYears1978
@NewYears1978 Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWright Thanks, that's what I was reading. It was taking a long time to dry and was removing some stain on my first coat but the second coat was much better and even dried much faster overnight last night. I am waiting 48 hours though for my first 2 coats to fully cure then I am going to do 3-4 more coats (probably only on top, not bottom). This morning it was dry to the touch after doing a second coat late yesterday and it was a little rough feeling (as expected) so I will wait until tomorrow and do a light sanding with a between coat 3M pad before doing the next coat. Thanks :)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Ай бұрын
That can cause a problem. If you have stain on first, you need to make sure that fully cures. Otherwise, the center in the poly will reactivate the stain and move around. Sometimes I'll put on a very thin coat of shellac over the stain first and then come out with the poly. The shellac will bind to the stain without reactivating it and then the poly will bind to the shellac.
@NewYears1978
@NewYears1978 Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWright It worked out in the end. Only that first coat slightly removed the excess stain but it still looks great :)
@JeepTherapy
@JeepTherapy 7 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to think of a funny smart a.... remark but you didn’t leave much room in this video to go by!!!! I’m mad now. Too straight forward. Keep it up bud. Thanks for sharing.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL I thought the intro would give you a good one!
@JeepTherapy
@JeepTherapy 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah... but the intros and puns are yours :(
@JeepTherapy
@JeepTherapy 7 жыл бұрын
OK FINE!!! No use crying over spilled solvent??
@L1A1Rocker
@L1A1Rocker 6 жыл бұрын
How many wipe on coats to equal one coat of straight poly?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Depends wildly on who is applying the poly. if I spray on one coat of poly I rarely put on more then what goes on with the wipe on. but some people love to spray it on thick.
@billfromelma
@billfromelma 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, great tip. Did you ever try wet sanding with this mixture on woods like oak or cherry to fill the grain ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I have, but most of the time I am not trying for that high gloss finish. usually, I do a quick hand sand with 400 grit in between coats 1, 2 and 3 then put on 2 more thin coats after.
@omegaflameZ
@omegaflameZ 7 жыл бұрын
Since the poly is oil based I gotta ask, have you tried adding BLO to it?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I have made mixes with it. and yes you can. it adds a lot of that rich BLO color, but you have to be careful with the thickness of the finish. you can also mix Shellac and a few other finishes. some people get really creative with it!
@eduardvaniersel7535
@eduardvaniersel7535 7 жыл бұрын
take one part poly, blo and mineral spirits each and you've basically got a sort of danish oil.
@omegaflameZ
@omegaflameZ 7 жыл бұрын
Oooh I love shellac finishes, I gotta try that now.
@aearnest
@aearnest 7 жыл бұрын
What is BLO
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Boiled Linseed Oil
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 7 жыл бұрын
I have used equal part turpentine, poly and denatured alcohol
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I think there are more recipes then woodworkers out there lol
@herbsu4330
@herbsu4330 7 жыл бұрын
A thought occurred, could you mix the water based poly with water to get a wipe on product?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
you could but it is already wipe on. it would just allow you to put on a thinner coat.
@randomguymaniac
@randomguymaniac 6 жыл бұрын
is mineral spirit somekind of thinner ,
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is a general thinner. It is called all kinds of different things around the world. "White Spirits" "bug Spirits" and some times just "spirits"
@williammueller768
@williammueller768 5 жыл бұрын
I am about to do my first major build. Curly Maple with walnut legs entry table. I am looking at using a clear finish for it. Would you use this wipe on poly or something else.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
eater wipe on poly or a hard wax like Rubio monocoat is my go to.
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 7 жыл бұрын
Knowing your preference for the oils I am going to ask anyway. Could you do the same with the water based Poly and water?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
you can, but most water based poly already comes thin enough to wipe or brush on.
@danhartman9087
@danhartman9087 6 жыл бұрын
I made a batch of this using the exact same ingredients and exact proportions. Worked great. Problem is 6 months later, all the "satin" settled into a gelled chunk at the bottom with mineral spirits at the top, and no amount of stirring or shaking seems to mix it up again. Any thoughts?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
yup that is the problem. without normal mixing, it settles out. the Wipe on poly from the store has additives to keep that from happening. what those are, I do not know
@briangurka8085
@briangurka8085 4 жыл бұрын
This is great. Going to try this today. I'm noticing that a bristle brush leaves streaks and a sponge brush doesn't distribute the coat evenly enough. This is what I'm looking for
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
If it is leaving streaks then the coat is too thick. I generally use a rag. Old t shirt or sock.
@unwinsis
@unwinsis 5 жыл бұрын
Does this work with spar urethane?
@robira1313
@robira1313 4 жыл бұрын
Could that mixture be applied to a stained wood? I'm afraid the mineral spirits would remove the stain....no?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
If the stain is cured it should work perfectly fine. I have used it over several different types of stain.
@watermain48
@watermain48 7 жыл бұрын
Is it too late to use this on a bench that has been treated with BLO? Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
nope. once the BLO cures you can put on whatever you want.
@blekatwoodworks742
@blekatwoodworks742 7 жыл бұрын
nice tip....thanks for the info.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Brad!
@tammpapeari6873
@tammpapeari6873 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the share 👍🏻 Did you ever try to make some kind of Danish oil ? Do you have any recipe ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I have. my favorite is to mix equal parts Miner spirits, Poly, and BLO but then I do two top coats of just wipe on poly. But, I think there are more recipes then woodworkers out there lol
@kqx7152
@kqx7152 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm very newbie with this issue, and I'm wondering: doesn't this mixture need hardener at all? So, is this PU 1k or 2k?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
no hardener needed. the polyurethane will harden when the thinner evaporates.
@kqx7152
@kqx7152 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@SimopsAus
@SimopsAus 7 жыл бұрын
What's Mineral Spirits? I'm from Aus and don't see that here.......is it same as Mineral Turpentine? Cheers
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup in AU or NZ it is called mineral turpentine. for some reason there are all kinds of names for it where ever you go. White spirit (UK) or mineral spirits (US, Canada), also known as mineral turpentine(AU/NZ), turpentine substitute, petroleum spirits, solvent naphtha (petroleum),Varsol, Stoddard solvent
@SimopsAus
@SimopsAus 7 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright thanks👍👍
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527
@dwarfsbaneironfist2527 7 жыл бұрын
Got to be careful buying some of these now, some white spirits in the uk are some cheap chinese stuff for cleaning water based paints, check you buy the real thing.
@FSWoodworking
@FSWoodworking 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip James. Thank you for sharing!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure man!
@VampireOnline
@VampireOnline 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any examples of the two compared to each other? I doubt there would be a difference in the look, but I'd be interested in seeing the comparison.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
I used both together on my cabinets int he kitchen and I can not see any difference at all. once the thinner evaporates all that is left is the poly, and it is the same recipe in both.
@tompritch56
@tompritch56 7 жыл бұрын
Great info...Thanks Much
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Tom!
@jeffeberl12
@jeffeberl12 7 жыл бұрын
Add one more part blo and you have Danish oil.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup, I do that sometimes when I really want that color. sometimes with varnish or shellac too.
@carbonitegamorrean8368
@carbonitegamorrean8368 7 жыл бұрын
thanks J
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
any time man!
@MakeBrooklyn
@MakeBrooklyn 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Effective and cheap :)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@BDM_PT
@BDM_PT 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there from Portugal, Nice Info :D Obrigado(Thanks)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@theones261
@theones261 6 жыл бұрын
If added with linseed oil refined or boiled then comes up with same result as minwax tung oil.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
yup. there are a ton of other mixes that different people like to make that way.
@johanvandyk6532
@johanvandyk6532 7 жыл бұрын
Can this be applied over boiled linseed oil (BOL) once cured? How long does BOL take to cure?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yup. drying time depends on the type of BLO the type of wood and a bunch more factors, but it does not need to cure to put it on. I normally wipe off the excess BLO then wait an hour or two. overnight is usually far more than needed, but again it all depends on other factors.
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info James! 👍👊
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Fred!
@Outsideville
@Outsideville 4 жыл бұрын
Could you mix poly, spirits and tung oil together for all coats? Presumably equal volumes. How long of a wait time between coats?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
sure. general poly mixed with oil is considered a tong oil. it depends on the mixture but anywhere from 4 hours to over night before the next coat.
@kobs2222
@kobs2222 7 жыл бұрын
8 pints in a half gallon? Hmmm🤔 love your style! Thanks for keeping woodworking fun!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL yup. that is what happens when I talk too fast!
@imortaldeadead
@imortaldeadead 7 жыл бұрын
This is going to save us all a lot of 💰💰💰 Is there other things we can mix in to continue the savings? Such as colours or umm I don’t know what else we could put in the mix 😂
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
you can mix a ton of other things. some people mix in BLO or other varnishes. but I do not like to get that fancy. there are more recipes out there for finish then woodworkers. LOL
@rick91443
@rick91443 7 жыл бұрын
Great video(now I have to try translating the ingrediants into French.) Already, I asked about "boiled" linseed oil and the sales persons huddled together, and then thought I was nuts...rr
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL sorry man. I have been told that BLO is hard to come by in Europ.
@parkarlsson7955
@parkarlsson7955 7 жыл бұрын
It depends on where in Europe, for example in Scandinavia and most northern countries it is easy to find. Linseed oil is called "huile de lin" in french :)
@rick91443
@rick91443 7 жыл бұрын
Mais huile de lin bouilli n'exist a pas ici....The boilded stuff they've never heard of...Thanks, I've lived here 34 years(so I do speak the language, lol)...Seriously, there's a big gap in the hobby market between n.America and here in France. Don't know about the northern countries but do have Norwegian Relatives...cheers...rr
@superdukedad
@superdukedad 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard of others using your same recipe with the addition of linseed oil; any benefit or reason? Also, could you use the water based poly and cut it with water, or does that not work as well? Thanks for the video!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. If you add BLO it is a type of Danish oil. It is not needed with waterbased poly as you can already wipe that on, bit if you want it thinner, yes, water is what you use.
@superdukedad
@superdukedad 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Another question...we have unfinished hickory cabinets and our plan was to just seal them to leave the natural wood characteristics exposed. I like the idea of water based products, but heard they don't penetrate hard woods as well as oil based products, is this true? Is that as important with poly as it it stain?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
the idea of "penetration" is commonly over blown. even the best oils only penetrate a 1/1000 or so in to most hard woods. Unless you are talking about raw linseed oil which will slowly penetrate over weeks or months as it takes that long to cure. it is true that water-based finishes do not penetrate as deep as oil finishes, but in hickory that is around 1/10000" difference. not enough to worry about. if you want that raw wood look then water-based poly is the way to go. it is a durable finish, and as clear as they come.
@superdukedad
@superdukedad 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your input!!! Took a crack at it tonight on a relatively simple piece and all your advice, both here and in the video, was a great help. Thanks again!
@Dewelful
@Dewelful 7 жыл бұрын
Can you mix water based with water 50/50? A funnel works wonders BTW lol
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
you can, but the water-based is already easily wipable without too much mess. thanks. Funnels are for sissys! LOL
@b3arwithm3
@b3arwithm3 4 жыл бұрын
If we wipe water based poly, do we have faster dry time between coats? How do we tell when we can apply the next coat?
@blairkorchinski627
@blairkorchinski627 7 жыл бұрын
See, you just saved me like 40 million or so.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks!
@TheEnergyball
@TheEnergyball 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. For understanding, what does boiled linseed oil offer to the strength of the finish? I see you are mainly using it to thin the formula but is there more to appreciate about it?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
it is not BLO that is mixed in. the thinner is just that a thinner. it allows you to put on a thinner coat. that slows the coats to be cleaner and smoother.
@calebsmith2671
@calebsmith2671 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, is it ok to use the homemade wipe on poly as the final top coat? I've seen forums/videos that say to use diluted poly for the base coats and then use regular undiluted poly as the final top coat. Are there any major differences? Have you ever done a side by side comparison? Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
There are a few people that say that but I find it to be total baloney. It's far easier to mess up a thick top coat. Most people out there just stick with a bunch of thin cotes you get the same protection but far easier to apply and less chance of large streaks
@calebsmith2671
@calebsmith2671 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Thanks!
@MMAFreakofNature
@MMAFreakofNature 6 жыл бұрын
I get the theory but when you thin it youll have to apply twice as many coats to achieve just straight poly. So is it really saving money when youre just applying 2x the coats?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
The savings is in comparison to buying "Wipe on Poly" not straight poly.
@MMAFreakofNature
@MMAFreakofNature 6 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright oh god duh haha i was thinkin that was wipe on poly this whole time. Sorry haha
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL that would make a difference!
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