How to Master the Rafale C F3 - A War Thunder Skill Issue Guide

[@angrytexan8883]

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[@SauronBaggins69]

when the missile gets chaffed or notched, it switches to datalink, making it essentialy a fox 1 tho it wont be able to hit the actual target. The problem is in this game, all aircraft radars can be notched. So when your missile gets notched during bvr, its always the case that your own radar gets notched too, thus disabling it from giving datalink to the missile to help it reaquire its target. BUT, the ONLY and FIRST plane in the game that gets an unnotchable radar is the RAFAEL. Gaijins attempt to implement AESA has given this a legit unnotchable radar, at least as far as ive tested it. Which means if you use a HARD lock, track lock, and maintain the lock all the way, the missile will never , ever lose track by notching or chaffing. This means that the only way to dodge mica is to either do proper defending going cold etc or arcady ass multipathing. So yeah this means it can be really good in high altitude bvr BUT it also means that this missile is literally unchaffable and notchable in a dogfight as long as you maintain radar lock, which is guaranteed with rafael radar. Just make sure you use hard lock.

[@angrytexan8883]

@SauronBaggins69 interesting, I wasn't aware. I'd heard people say that it wasn't properly implemented yet but i guess I was misled.

[@iamgaard]

He gets unintentionally notched at 7:43, am I misunderstanding something or is that an exceptional case in your hypothesis?

[@SauronBaggins69]

​@iamgaard it's a bug that all radars have in the game that happens very rarely

[@endelgame6291]

Wich mode is better for the radar?

[@Spacketsss]

@@endelgame6291 For long range Fox 3 missile slings, I use TWS. That way I know generally where people are and can get a hard lock from there using PD. Then when I get to about 15km I transition to PD HDN and whip out my Fox 1s. So it all depends on where you are in relation to the enemy players (this is when I'm in my F14, so ofc I won't have amraams at medium ranges.)

[@Spacketsss]

Very useful for when I get this plane in 1.34 years 😊

[@banedrivingyt2384]

i pushed the rafale from the reserve planes less than the week without top tier premium aircraft, only with use of premium account. What 1.34 years you are talking about. It literally will looks like you are getting rafale for 0.08 years and other 1.26 is clearly waiting

[@unnamed_7852]

@@banedrivingyt2384 Less than a week from reserve to top tier? U are either lying or were playing 20 hours every day I got from reserve to mirage2000 in 9 days using f1c. And that is with bombing and 2kd on f1c

[@Spacketsss]

@@banedrivingyt2384 bro its just a joke chill

[@banedrivingyt2384]

@Spacketsss oh.... I got it. My bad)

[@Spacketsss]

@@banedrivingyt2384 no problem :)

[@guerrinlove69]

This is an excellent rough n' dirty on this whole BR range, not just the rafale. Lots of good tips that were easy to pick up and understand, thank you. Earned a sub

[@angrytexan8883]

@@guerrinlove69 thank you friend

[@starstreakalex7372]

obviously these aircraft are still being used in service, so Gaijin does not have accurate blueprints or manuals for the aircraft, meaning stuff like top speed, thrust, rip speeds, and damage modelling are not going to be realistic.

[@Vogelchen]

"oh shit the MICA is coming at me very fast range" is a very catchy name

[@KausPupsen]

I use WTRTI to constantly monitor the IAS speed, in the program you can assign different speeds to different sounds. For example, after reaching 1400 km/h, a sound starts to sound every few seconds, then at 1420 with a higher frequency, and at 1443 (the speed of the structure breaking 1458) the voice overspeed sounds. And so you can listen to it without concentrating on the value and orient yourself when it's time to reduce power. I used it on M2K, so I continued on raFAIL.

[@angrytexan8883]

@@KausPupsen that's a good idea. You should consider making a tutorial on that, it would probably get a lot of traffic.

[@KausPupsen]

​@@angrytexan8883 Unfortunately, I think such a tutorial is very niche and it will be useful literally only to players of Rafale and Mirage, because only on them I have come across such a thing. Although I thank you for the idea, maybe I will try it.

[@angrytexan8883]

@@KausPupsen Fair enough, tbh though a lot of the videos of mine that did best were on extremely niche topics that I didn't think would do very well.

[@KausPupsen]

@@angrytexan8883 I made a video, but I don't think it will even get 20 views, but maybe you'll find it useful and set up a speed alert for your planes.

[@flynntaggart8549]

4:29 literally my opening strat lol

[@CatWachristmashat]

any tips specificallty what to do? i just die instantly to aim 120s or i have no idea where they're coming like from 50km

[@rowanwild8445]

6:35 To answer you about "what the French were thinking when they designed this[low rip speed]" well it’s simple they did not. In War Thunder the rip speed is arbitrarily determined by TopSpeed * 1.05. It doesn’t work that way in real life. What’s more, the max speed on the Rafale, as on most jets in war thunder but especially this one, is an operational limit, not a technical one. It was made so in order to keep the IR signature of the plane low(as per stealth features requirements) and highten fuel consumption efficiency. War Thunder mechanics just works in an unfortunate way for it.

[@angrytexan8883]

@@rowanwild8445 well crap. I'm sure someone already submitted a bug report but i hope it gets looked at soon...

[@CatWachristmashat]

I actually just try to tab out for like 20 seconds to check a message then my wings ripped off because i accidentally left afterburner on max. :)

[@SkyBlue_32]

Side climbing is back!!!!

[@KilogrammeKG]

Well, i tired the strat to go left at 101%. I got killed by an invisible EF2k. I try to notch, but idk where the missile comes from. How to know if the missile is up or down ?

[@angrytexan8883]

There isn't really a good way to do that unfortunately. Sometimes you just get unlucky.

[@claudemontezin911]

Great review. A lot of bugs still on it. The real-life Rafale, with a decent track record in actual interception, CAS and interdiction roles, has had no wing rips. For some reason, Gaijin also equipped the Rafale with a different gun than the GIAT 30 - one of the best gun in RPM and velocity in the world.

[@Keep3r1438]

The gun is correct I believe

[@Galaxy47712]

Good video bro!!, Could you upload a video of your complete settings in Air and Land?, It would be amazing and of great help bro😎

[@angrytexan8883]

@@Galaxy47712 thank you, tbh though I don't really have anything particularly special set up in terms of settings. If you search 'war thunder settings' you can pretty much just copy what you see in those videos, most experienced players run everything mostly the same way.

[@smiley9178]

How do u go only 101% throttle

[@angrytexan8883]

@@smiley9178 i use my scroll wheel to control throttle, you should be able to just wind it down from 110

[@smiley9178]

I tried that but it just stays at 110

[@angrytexan8883]

@smiley9178 I would check the forums for posts about throttle settings. I don't have the game in front of me do idrk what the problem could be.

[@spocky7515]

You monster.. asymmetrical loadout. Nah, kidding. Although I hate asymmetry I've grown used to it, given tanks like the Abrams or Panzer 4. Still, would choose 6 MICAs and 2 Magics over 7:1, but eh, personal preference. And as much as I wanted to grind to the Mirages, the Eurofighter made me switch back to Germany. TwT (Also, go angrytexan go! Great videos :3 )

[@user-cs3qh1uv5y]

Should I grind with rafale in Sim or Air RB?

[@angrytexan8883]

@@user-cs3qh1uv5y I mean, if you play both modes, I'm pretty sure it's a lot stronger on sim.

[@guitarlover42]

War thunder players really refuse to not hold after burner down lol

[@Zorthal]

My first match after watching this I got 3 kills and an assist !!

[@Space_Reptile]

"use the airbrake" he says on the airbrakeless airframe

[@angrytexan8883]

@@Space_Reptile airbrake^2

[@AllTheNamesIWant]

any plans for a "How to Master the J7-D or MIG-21bis"?

[@angrytexan8883]

@@AllTheNamesIWant i was actually trying to get footage for that, and what I found is that basically, how well you do in that sort of aircraft comes down almost entirely to the enemy's situational awareness (or lack thereof) because non IRCCM heat seekers are so easy to flare. Maybe I'll revisit in the future but honestly I feel like it would be misleading to claim there's some sort of ideal trick or tactic to use in those things.

[@AllTheNamesIWant]

@@angrytexan8883 Oh good its not just me who thinks that.

[@Elrment1]

Articulated commentary, thanks

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

the stupid rip speed should be changed but probably won't for awhile, maybe if f18 suffer the same problems since it will have the same x1.05 of max speed for rip speed but powerful engines like the Rafale

[@angrytexan8883]

@@nicolaspeigne1429 i also hope it's changed, but unfortunately I think it may be realistic.

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

@@angrytexan8883 the rip speed is an arbitrary value of 1.05 time the max operational speed, but it's for simplicity sake, for example the F16 all share the same rip speed despite having slightly different max speeds, because the airframe stay basically the same. The rafale max speed is limited by the size of its intakes more than the airframe itself. At the end of the day it's a balance decision, that's why it may not happen for the Rafale alone, but if the problem is also shared by the F18, maybe the whole force of complaints from the USA playerbase will make things change.

[@angrytexan8883]

@nicolaspeigne1429 well I'll certainly keep my fingers crossed

[@iamgaard]

F-18 has half the thrust per engine compared to Rafale. Won't be an issue.

[@yametetakiro5914]

Mica : The missile so bad at his job that it make me think than the aim9b wasn't that bad. 4km That crap can't hit anything.

[@angrytexan8883]

@@yametetakiro5914 idk what missile you're using bro, these little fellas are cracked.

[@yametetakiro5914]

@angrytexan8883 mica. Just mica.

[@Squidkessoku]

The mica is so much better than everything else than it makes amraam feel dogshit compared