How To Maximize Your PS5 Storage: Delete 'Other' Storage, Manage PS4 Games, UI Tips & More!

[@mr.4for431]

You are the KING of playstation on KZbin. Been following you for years. You helped me with SSD information and your PS3 buying information video was so informative. It helped me make my decisions so much easier. I’ll always support the channel! Sending positive vibes your way and the cat too 😂

[@Toshinisei]

I'm also subscribed to John Glasscock's channel. They're both awesome when it comes to PS stuff.

[@mr.4for431]

@@Toshinisei I’ll check out the channel!

[@ThePokestopPapi]

@@Toshinisei Gotta love the Glasscock!

[@brucewhite360]

What's up with Gen Z and the positive "vibes" ?

[@litt420]

Imagine saying that about this mystic fraud 😂😂literally worst content on youtube check his old videos to see how its supposed to be made this is garbage 😂

[@mugen_870]

Thank you! It feels like no one else is talking about how “other” storage can’t be deleted. I’ve had to reset my console a couple times to clear it. I hope PlayStation updates this in the future. I get it needs to be used for BC games and some other things but just trust us to clear it out so resetting isn’t a requirement. Less of an issue these days with the M2 drives etc as an option but it always feels weird when a company is like “no no no, don’t touch, you’ll break it” lol

[@beepboopthemyth]

“Other” storage is important though. Don’t be broke, but an SSD 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@fddodgers11]

Right, I had just cleared space on the internal sad and i downloaded the modern warfare 2 beta on my external sad and the internal was full again. One other thing i need to check out with a game that wasn’t able to update when the internal was full but even filling external sod would take up a bunch of space on internal sad.

[@shaazouki7352]

I need some help I deleted a game and now it’s not even in game library

[@mugen_870]

@@shaazouki7352 It might be in your hidden library. In the menu where you can sort your game library by A to Z there will be a toggle to view hidden games.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

This video is so essential and you're the perfect guy to do it

[@beanwizzle15]

Credit where credit is due this is a great video idea. You have a knack for finding obscure video ideas that gamers have always wondered about but never took the time to look up/create.

[@kadirpvp6174]

Thank you finally someone who says how the other storage is getting less

[@zubiddydoodoopop]

I've always treated my M.2 & hdd drive as the PS4 game drive while the onboard storage was the PS5 game drive to minimize "other" storage. I never bothered to check that theory but it's cool to see it confirmed

[@dosecacius6704]

Can I save ps4 and ps5 games onto my 4tb ssd and play them even though the ps4 save data will be in the console storage?

[@garryja513]

Thanks to mystic's video I succed to shrink the others storage from 60gb to 10gb ! For now on I'll install ps5 games only in the internal drive and ps4 games in the external m.2 ssd. The other way around wasn't great to me.

[@lyconxero457]

I've had an external SSD for my PS4 games since I got my PS5 at launch and it's been fantastic. I get all the benefits of faster load times without taking away precious internal storage space. Right now it feels like I'm doing pretty good on internal storage space so I've not had any reason to buy an internal upgrade. What Mark Cerny said about what the average player needs seems to be true as I've bought plenty of games over the almost 2 years I've had the system but still haven't run out of space yet. And if that day does come then it's really not that big of a deal to simply delete games from my internal drive. I think I've actually done this for both PS4 and PS5 games that I've fully completed as it's not like I'm going to play them again anytime soon and I do still have their save data so re-installing the game isn't that big of a deal. The PS5 installs games SO MUCH FASTER than the PS4 that at most I'm usually waiting like 5 minutes instead of the 30 minutes to an hour I'd be waiting for PS4 games.

[@trashyspeeds266]

I could only hold 4 big title games with standard storage..... not ideal for me.

[@shaazouki7352]

I need some help I deleted a game and now it’s not even in game library

[@lyconxero457]

Subsequently, this is also another reason why the PS5 with a disc drive is superior because in every single case that I've tested it is faster to install a game from a disc than downloading it despite having 600Mbps internet. Downloading a game for me seems to depend more on Sony's servers at that particular time which obviously vary depending on their current load but installing from the disc is always fast PLUS the system will automatically start downloading any patches or updates at the same time so you don't have to wait. This makes the idea of deleting games that you've finished off your system instead of opting for more internal storage all the more appealing as installing from the disc takes like 5 minutes tops for me as opposed to downloading which depending on various factors can take anywhere from 5 to 45 minutes.

[@unlodead9045]

Good stuff! I knew a lot of this already but you also made me aware of a few helpful tips I wasn’t aware of. Thanks!

[@SirDave1988]

Thank you. Just knowing about the Safe Mode is useful information in of itself, best PlayStation KZbin channel bar none 👍🏻

[@Nahsense-]

I’ve noticed that screenshots that you delete go straight to other storage most people wouldn’t notice it because screenshots don’t take up much space but it can add up if you take a lot

[@elijahrook4183]

I take a lot of clips trimming them and deleting them. Which method would be the best to clear that out? I tried the clearing cache in safe mode and a couple gigs went away..

[@punjabi38]

When I was finally able to get my hands on a PS5 through sony, I took my ps4 pro to gamestop and sold it. It was in a top notch condition so I got the max slae price. I think they gave me like 260 for it. Went to Amazon and bought a 2tb pci card for my ps5 for 240 bucks. It was perfect. Don't have to worry about storage anymore. I hope more devs publish their games in a way like COD CW, where it gives you the choice to keep part of the game you actually play and delete the rest. Thanks for the tips! Great video!

[@vincentwhite6707]

Out standing information as always friend, but please in future vids. Point out to users of external drives, to plug them in the rear of there consoles as the front USB outlet is really for recharging. It can be used as a data transfer port but the loading time is much longer. The rear ports are made for data transferring.

[@AustrianCitizen]

Got a 1 TB SSD in a bundle with a controller for around 120,- Pretty happy with how much space I got now 👍

[@justaweeb14688]

120 or 1200

[@LongTermTitanKillingBootyCall]

Cheers for this. Even simple things like looking for a specific thing in the settings menus can be confusing with no context.

[@snipinpixihunter]

Thank you Ryan! Great, informative video. I was literally JUST perusing online stores for M.2's lol... I might wait for a good deal on black friday if I'm lucky.

[@Frank7G]

Another good thing to do is, what I do is stop downloading every single game what I do is I just add it to the library & when I'm ready to play it I play it once I beat it I delete it.

[@napaceHbIK]

5:02 One day after having a power outage while PS5 was in rest mode, I got a nasty glitch - rest mode stopped working correctly. Sometimes after waking up from the rest mode, game icons would become blank, and if I presssed the options button, the menu (check for updates, delete the game etc.) wouldn't appear. If I started the game, it fixed the icon, and restarting the console fixed all the icons, but only till I used the rest mode a few times again. May be a minor bug, but annoying nonetheless and seemingly unfixable without resetting everything to factory settings. I know it's said in the video that this whole rest mode trick is risky, and here's my example how exactly it's risky.

[@ishaangamer27]

Thanks for this informative video

[@BespokeSlipp]

@Aditya Sharma yes

[@BespokeSlipp]

@Aditya Sharma lol I know I was messing with you

[@ishaangamer27]

@Aditya Sharma No I just said thanks for no reason you idiot 🤡

[@-clickhere]

@Aditya Sharma Why did you ask in such a condescending way?

[@BespokeSlipp]

@@-clickhere exactly, we’re all chillin’ here

[@koobs4549]

Awesome video Ryan! Lots of great info here, very helpful & clearly explained.

[@oroshikamui]

Thank you for this very informative and helping video👍

[@ahsankhan-zg6gr]

One vid in … I’m convinced you’re not like the other PlayStation BS KZbinrs Subbed

[@The_Wailing_Doom]

What a very useful video! I can't believe you're not at 10M subscribers yet.

[@futureking719]

I am so happy I found your account dude cuz I had first got my PS5 and the other with the storage was completely taking up all my gigabytes following your instructions made it go all the way from 500 to 27 gigabytes thank you so much you are a legend

[@alexandru2882]

You've answered all of my questions! Great video!

[@gravereaper3243]

Didn't know ps4 games were taking a big chunk out of the other category. Thanks for the info.

[@MrPlanner12]

Itd weird I have a game that's has both versions the ps5 is 10gb smaller then the ps4 version

[@gravereaper3243]

I noticed alot of ps5 games are smaller than the ps4. Probably because they can compress the files more with the SSD. Cyberpunk is a big one. 100gb for the ps4 version. 55gb for the ps5 version.

[@djangofett4879]

@@gravereaper3243 45 gigs... wow... i dont think compression can explain that massive of a difference. that's crazy

[@oomen-86]

His video's always seem to be so relaxing 😀 Keep up the good work 👌

[@Stefan_Payne]

Also, since we're at it: We should be louder and mention the PRICE per Gigabyte for the Storage Expansion! Right now, a 2TB SSD that is compatible with the PS5 is around 150€, though not recommended. The Recommended ones are around 200-230€. Working, but not recommended, 1TB SSDs for PS5 are available for 70€, the recommended ones are at around 120-140€ (quite pricy) The Storage Expansion for the Competiiton right now is ~150€ for ½TB, ~230-260€ for 1TB, 410€ for 2TB... And its only rated for 2,4GB/sec, not 5-7GB/sec...

[@redfox-zj5mn]

This needs more likes

[@antonioowensby8823]

this video was very informative 👌 keep making great content

[@TheViper4Life]

I put all my PS4 games on an external HDD, then when I'm ready to play it I put it on the PS5 so it can benefit from the SSD. When I'm done, I either delete it or put it back on the HDD...this has kept my Other storage relatively low over the last year and change (it's at 47GB right now).

[@Owen01]

I’m good on PS5 storage. Have the internal storage, a 2TB Western Digital SN850, and a 8TB external HDD for PS4 games/cold storage

[@anthonyguada]

Just bought my very first gaming console, I am 65 years old, my first purchased game is Gran Turismo 7 25th Anniversary Edition - PS5 Disc & PS4 Entitlement and WOW.. Blew my mind. Say this game - do they have it in VR ? Now that would be so groovy, Oh yeah, VR I know nothing about VR so does PlayStation sell one style of VR ? Can I use any VR set, or it MUST be a PlayStation VR headset? Can I use the PlayStation headset on Steam VR? When I was at a store I saw VR, and said, I just got to get me a PlayStation PS4 the PS5 is a little pricy

[@snakeeater4042]

Thank you for covering this! And at the same time: WTF Sony!? I did all the safe steps and could clear up 2 GB of space...then I did the risky method of unplugging PS5 and unbelievable 30 GB!! of space have been cleared! It's so dumb that this is by far the most efficient way to do this!

[@PenguinYayOne]

Sony should give us the option to turn off automatic bg recording. That'd greatly increase the device's lifespan

[@unicorntomboy9736]

If the system was designed with that in mind, how exactly would it damage the console?

[@lordspalse0062]

Sony is truly very stupid for forcing that feature

[@PenguinYayOne]

@@unicorntomboy9736 It constantly writes to the internal SSD as long as a game is on the screen. The internal SSD has a limited number of write cycles and is soldered to the main board.

[@ferrodriguez10]

Man no joke, but what a great video with lots of value. Like each topic you brought up you gave great options to how to handle or solve and adding the ssd internal and external information. Thanks and keep these videos rolling out 👌

[@ET_Videos]

Thanks for the tips!! I guess I should just buy an external SSD and then wait a bit for a BIG M.2 in the future. Since I have a bunch of PS4 games.

[@cmdr101z8]

I would recommend just getting an external SSD with a USB connection for PS4 games, as the loading time difference isn’t much between the external and an M.2. Also, then you still get faster loading than a HDD and you can save space for PS5 games on the M.2. Not to mention that the external SSD would be cheaper too

[@Rawzix]

I never understand why you guys need an external drive. I have a bunch of PS4 games as well and I used to have an external drive filled with loads of PS4 games but I realized how pointless it was since there’s never a point where I play enough different games that would fill my PS5’s regular storage… Unless you play a bunch of multiple games at the same time it’s pointless

[@ET_Videos]

@@Rawzix we like hoarding:-)

[@eliv.1033]

I use a WD E HHD 4TB... works great for my PS4 games and I still have around half of my internal storage left .Now I just have to wait till I'm lucky enough to get WD 850 on sale...😁👍

[@PatrickTCAPIreland]

I removed my dead PS4’s drive and put it in an Amazon enclosure for €10, works like a treat

[@upamorgan1695]

I have 404 GB in my ''Other'' storage ...

[@Aetoetta]

DAMN. How many ps4 games do you have?

[@upamorgan1695]

@@Aetoetta 104

[@S-420]

Using rest mode also fills up your other storage permanently unless you factory reset the console

[@Deedric_Kee]

Me doing this every time I get a new game. I also keep my "PS5 in resolution mode and I don't use HDR at all,and I have my TV settings on hdmi 2.1 or for ppl who don't have a 2.1 compatible TV,just max it out to 2.0. Excellent video "Mystic. Hope you have a great "Sunday 👍

[@PSG51]

Thank you so much man. I really didn't know that the external drive could also store these PS5 games to get them quicker. A half year ago i bought a Seagate 2TB and its really handy for those PS4 games. I highly recommend for all of you to do the same as this is much better.

[@waynebell6200]

Mystic your the master. Thanks heaps for the video man.

[@cluckendip]

One of the most helpful videos for PS5 users I've seen!

[@albertawheat6832]

Thank you for the useful information, I am new to the PS5, and I appreciate it.

[@PenguinYayOne]

The 'other' storage contains the always-on recording video file

[@ThePokestopPapi]

Source?

[@PenguinYayOne]

@@ThePokestopPapi If you save the 1h video clip a bunch of times at once you can actually see the "other storage" shrinking and then getting bigger. That's because the system records the video there but when you save it it just moves out of that space and starts filling the "other storage" again.

[@ThePokestopPapi]

@@PenguinYayOne Ahh ok, interesting! Thanks for this info, never knew about that

[@egrintarg230]

It is so cool that I can get that other storage to go away. To reuse SSD, what a novel idea!

[@zekemanning5617]

Id like to use this advice as soon as i get a ps5

[@xxbiohatchetxx]

I made a video on how to fix other folder in storage 10 months ago but hey the more videos showing how to fix stuff on ps5 is great i also have a video on how to fix the error code for when you're trying to update system features and it pops up the error code and other error codes n other videos also but yeah not a bad video tho and as of the m.2 ssd I'd recommend the nextorage brand do research on that brand like who that brand is made by for instance plus the speeds and you'll see why n yes i do have a 1tb nextorage ssd for my ps5 n it's amazing but yeah hopefully your doing good, have a great n blessed day and keep up the good videos :)

[@BranWolfYT]

Appreciate the video Mystic I have 4tb on mine but I always try to keep it clean and I always delete a game after playing I hate having 2 many games on there as it can get overwhelming for me.

[@Bully_Biscuit]

When I got the PlayStation 5 it had 300+ GB in the “other storage” after resetting it, it only has 7 GB in there now. Thank you!

[@Dakotacamp]

How did you reset it? What method did you use?

[@cosmic_drew]

I finally figured out that I had games that I had inserted and they hadn't fully installed that was taking up my "other" space. The 80GB of "other" wouldn't go away until I put those discs back in and finished installing them even though I had "cancelled" those installs.

[@bamban_garcia5562]

Bloody hell welp time to install almost 200 PlayStation 4 video games I guess just to remove that annoying "other" aspect

[@robertlawrence9000]

Great video Ryan!

[@Carl-G]

EXCELLENT Tips 👍 👍 👍 I didn't wait tho :D & the end of last year I bought a 4TB SSD :P It cost way to much :D but it does make the PS5 even better :P I just LOVE looking at all my PS4 & PS5 games on it now & I still have LOADS of space for the future ;)

[@Kenny410]

I got the WD BLACK SN850 2TB but wanted to upgrade Im hoping that 4tb Firecuda goes on sale around black Friday

[@BAZCHILLIN]

I'm at a point where it's faster to redownload then to transfer. What a time to be alive. 1000Mbps up and down

[@LOSTBHOY88]

Yea I feel ya mate. 900mbps here. What took me an hour an half before now takes 10mins to download. Life changing lol

[@wolf0491]

My speed is high enough but I refuse to pay an extra $50 a month for unlimited . Screw Cox

[@BAZCHILLIN]

@@wolf0491 we don't have data caps in my country. I feel sorry for people who do man.

[@jrico153]

i had to redo it again and it actually worked thank you so much♥♥♥♥♥♥

[@Gamer_Zane]

when warzone's updates come , they usually make my storage and others big , but when I fix it , it come back to it normal state

[@NIJAHARRY123]

Thank u so much, I got this message and I was confused but I saw it video and I had 1,250k media! I have so much space now! Thank u!(I do yt streams on my ps5)

[@christophermoore6110]

My ps5 got bricked because it lost power in rest mode. never again. It wasn’t broken permanently, but who would want to risk losing data?

[@mazlynn2]

Good tips. Thanks man

[@uhuhbhuguguvygvv9847]

I NEEDED THIS SOO MUCH! I was trying to install cold war but didnt have any space and i had a usb storage but to move a game there i had to actually install it,BUUT i moved a 78gig game(ww2) to my storage and i needed to delete something but didnt know what.. SOOO i found this videoa nd learnt how to delete others

[@yFrxgrr]

Thank you so much you helped me!❤️

[@jtw-_-]

This actually helped me

[@BestGameLoadouts]

What about “Ghost Storage”, the PS5 will say I’m using 250GB for instance but everything including the other may only add up to 215GB for example

[@Darklord_tK]

System software also takes up some space if you were to completely reset it would only have like 700gb available out of the advertised 800+

[@omnymisa]

Thank you!

[@Moonlitriffs]

I have two 5tb externals for my PS4 games, that's the way to go!

[@jordanking7711]

Thank you Mystic. I haven't got a PS5 yet and was always wondering about the external hard drive point you mentioned. Got a 4TB external hard drive for my PS4 games, and was curious to know about that, if I wanted to move it over to PS5 to save the SSD storage. I guess that the console will save the save game files for those games, but that's not a big deal.

[@LuisBita]

Thanks Mystic, best regards 🎮💙

[@NickvRijt]

Thank you I had 300 GB of Other and by deleting cache I now have only 30 GB

[@joekelley7649]

As a gamefly guy I was always wondering how to dump that other folder

[@textmeontelegrambikes_and_7288]

Rush by Ayra Starr

[@Denilius123]

The difference in price between 2TB and 4TB is insane. 2TB is EXTREMELY limiting, but I'm not prepared to pay more than the console itself for 4TB. This is really tough, and I find myself researching every month hoping that prices have dropped or there is an amazing sale. Don't think I'll be lucky. I'm WAY too hesitatant to settle with only 2TB. Idk wtf to do lol.

[@soundwave_kun2702]

That's horrible 😭 LISTEN I bought a 2TB thinking it would be fine but i've already used 1.5 ;-; I still have 500gbs on my internal storage though but I think you should bite the bullet and get 4TB!!

[@Denilius123]

@@soundwave_kun2702 I'll see, I can still manage for a month or two. But any sale, and I'm jumping on that Corsair

[@NormallyIll]

So what did u get

[@Denilius123]

@@NormallyIll 4TB SSD for roughly $130 CAD

[@NormallyIll]

@@Denilius123 quick question when I download a game and they give me 2 options to download as a ps5 game or ps4 game does it affect the game graphics and performance by any chance or no?

[@Acd1984]

I have never found the need for extra storage, I only ever have a few games on the go and delete what I'm not using

[@ericmacgillivary]

The PlayStation app has improved so much

[@Road552]

I moved all of my Games/Apps to my new 2TB M.2 SSD I just installed. However my Games And Apps on my Console still says it’s taking up 55.43GB despite having no games left in there. Anyone else having this issue?

[@jonathanm9986]

Yep it’s a unfixable glitch

[@billycutiep]

I have a 2tb external ssd and a 2 tb WD Black SN850 with an Elecgear PS5 Heatsink. I don't have anything besides a few movie apps and system storage on the internal drive.

[@sleepster9944]

Just got my hands on a ps5 yesterday happy days 👍👍

[@wossle73]

6:27 The Single Best Storage Advice for PS5! I have 2 External Drives, Totaling 7TB of Space. Best thing, They came from my PS4! Almost Everything, Just Worked😉😄

[@bamban_garcia5562]

Why not simply buy a single 8tb external hard drive

[@DGKMcfly01]

I’m so close to buying a 2tb ssd! 😅waiting for that $200 or less sweet spot. So far Corsair MP600 is $220 but I’d like to get the WB Black 850

[@christopherduren9368]

I know I waiting for it to go down now I see some for under 239. To 200 I getting one my be next year

[@goncaloduarte4683]

Nand manufacturers overproduced, so SSD prices are going to keep falling hard, by Q2 next year, they could be half of what they are now some experts believe. So waiting may be a good idea.

[@redhot642]

Guys their is a easier way if you have a ssd just close the ps5 disconnect the ssd then open the ps5 and go to storage and the other gb will in games and apps so you can delete it and then connect the ssd back with your games and everything is ok

[@Lozin80]

I finally broke down and went to Best Buy for some storage. I actually had the new 2TB WD Black SN850 in my hand but I just couldn’t do it for the price and instead I got the WD Black P10 8TB drive which also said rated for PS4 & PS5 on it for a lot cheaper than the SN850. I don’t mind transferring games so it was a no brainer and 8TB should last me a long time.

[@Titanino9]

Hi! how much is the minimum "other" than u can have? i restored the 2 things you said, and erased all ps4 games and i still have 19gb of "other" things. Pd: Great great video, thank you!

[@Deedric_Kee]

You can also just get a WD Black hard drive off their site,if you don't wanna delete your games. It can be helpful to those who don't play a ton of different games all the time.

[@Stefan_Payne]

I wouldn't recommend first party USB HDDs though and go for a 3rd Party one, such as Intenso. The Reason is that the first party is even harder to open and also uses integrated, dedicated USB HDDs, while 3rd parties can use USB to SATA Converter boards... Though for a Game Drive, that doesn't hold any data of value, it shouldn't matter much at all.

[@chrismonterubio9475]

Download time for a full game install varies by your internet connection. The time it took you to download Horizon Forbidden West took me less than 1/4 the time it took you with a gigabit connection. It’s faster for me to do a full download vs transferring to an external drive. For others I get it, and this may not be the case. Before upgrading to the PS5 I got a couple weeks ago, I transferred all of my PS4 games onto an 8TB external drive. I’ve also paid the exorbitant amount it costs for a 4TB m.2 ssd, so my digital PS5 has almost 13TB of storage space.

[@OrdinarilyBob]

Thank you.

[@Sincethe80sGaming]

I learned this a few years back with my Ps3 and then Ps4 going into safe mode will eventually help you delete some error files.

[@Lolpower777]

Thinking to get a flash storage USB 3.1, is there any you would recommend?

[@defective8867]

I’m some how stuck with 530GB of storage in other so I really need so much help

[@silverian]

Great info!

[@potentpotions73personsunko37]

Crucial p3 plus gen 4 sad 4tb is the cheapest 4tb option on Amazon. UK 🇬🇧 263.00£ which then gives you 4.6 tb of storage

[@trashyspeeds266]

you can pick up a 2tb external storage for like, 70 bucks. Just snag one while your getting your ps5, it'll make life a lot easier then worrying about storage space

[@marcello000]

Thank you brother

[@lordeowstheking]

Didn't realize that having games played off of your external hard drive would affect the loading time and how some of the games perform on the PS5. Seems weird performance wise because the PS4 didn't have that problem but I understand that I will have to put games onto my console in order to get the quick fast loading times.

[@cmdr101z8]

It’s because the internal SSD has a transfer speed of 5-7Gb/s whereas even external SSDs top out at around 500Mb/s. So pretty much the internal SSD is around 10x the speed of an external drive, and that’s if it’s an SSD instead of a hard drive. The PS4 on the other hand used a hard drive internally, so the speed wasn’t much different internal or external

[@darkdestructer]

So I just done a quick test with the other folder. I deleted 2GB of videoclips and the folder went up by 500mb. It actually makes 0 sense, feel like that folder is reserved for leftover files, that u already deleted but don't have access to.I turned off all automatic captures, save my ps4 games seperately and it still blocks 60GB of my Harddrive. Actually messed up by sony. reserving 150GB for system data is 1 thing but creating a whole folder that permanently goes up without being able to access it is just a crazy scam. Imagine buying a 1TB harddrive but it only has 500GB space, u would immediately return it. Why is this a thing?!

[@ahmed11egy]

Thanks Ryan

[@liamkirtis]

I dont get why everyone says you get 667gb of useable storage. Another 50/60gb is reserved for console updates etc. So you get 600 not 667.

[@OverDriveBOLT]

Thank You very much

[@RichB-78]

I wish the Xbox app was as good as the PS app. It doesn't even have the XB store.

[@cxmber]

I literally just set up my ps4 and the “other” space is taking over 660gb??