I've been doing this stuff, restoring old tractors and machinery for a half century now and here are some of my methods. Get some PB Blaster Penetrating Catalyst. Absolutely the best for softening any rust. I'm surprised that you didn't mention it. Most people are in a hurry and think that it will work right away. It doesn't. Patience is needed. Let it sit for a day or two. Make sure the part is always wet. Re-apply as necessary. This is what I'll do if the broken bolt is below the surface. If any of the bolt is above, or flush, I'll always mig weld a washer to the bolt and a nut to the washer. Wait till everything cools and out comes the stud! Piece of cake! Below the surface; Take a large prick punch and a good size hammer. Prick the center of the broken bolt. A couple of good whacks with the hammer will help break things loose. Get some left handed drill bits. I've found that properly prepared bolts will unscrew as you're drilling, MOST of the time. Snap-On are the best, but expensive. I start by using a standard 1/8" right handed drill bit (don't take the chance of breaking your expensive left hand bit) and drill down 1/2" or so. I'll now take a acetylene torch and heat the broken bolt if there is nothing flammable near by. You're only going to heat the bolt very quickly and not the surrounding metal housing. I'm talking like 5 seconds here. Not getting it white hot. If there is a chance of combustable hydraulic fluid, take a 200 watt soldering iron and heat the bolt until you see the penetrating oil start to smoke. More patience! Let everything cool! Take a break, have some coffee! The stud has to shrink back. Now I'll take a larger left hand drill and carefully start drilling. I little warning here. Some new drills are too sharp and will suddenly grab and break. I'll take a fine stone and remove a little of the cutting angle, making it closer to 90 degrees. The same thing you do when drilling soft brass or copper so the drill doesn't grab. If you do break a drill bit, try welding a washer to it and most of the time you can take a pair of pliers and back it out. These methods work for me maybe 99% of the time. I hardly ever use the hammer in type extractors. Mainly because they'll expand the bolt and cause it to be harder to remove. Just thought I would share some experience. Maybe give it a try. Broken bolts don't have to be a pain in the ass!
@cardboardboxification8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried rust buster and let it set for awhile? Even a hour, Then some penetrating oil?
@adamadamhoney8 жыл бұрын
This guy. Minus the strap on drill bits :) good set of left handed cobalts will cost an arm and a dick but we'll worth it.
@wayneblack9908 жыл бұрын
Aren't "Strap-On" drill bits those Chinese clones? :-) I've had a lot of trouble with any drill bits not made in the U.S.A. The Chinese have terrible quality control and some bits seem to miss the heat treating part of the manufacture. Either too soft or too hard. Buy quality, take care of your tools and they'll last a long time.
@adamadamhoney8 жыл бұрын
+Wayne Black Snap on stiff is good, im just not a fan of the price tag. I usually use Sutton tools bits and taps mostly Australian made. I'm also in Australia so...
@apexmike8498 жыл бұрын
Nice tips! You should post a video!
@c_mac_o_fficial7 жыл бұрын
I feel like when terrible people die, they're reincarnated as drill bits in your garage.
@NextGenesis887 жыл бұрын
They were broke studs in both lives.
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys6 жыл бұрын
Now~~That's Funny!!!!!
@JordyValentine8 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the drill bits that sacrificed themselves for our entertainment
@JordyValentine8 жыл бұрын
Haha, farmer loctite, well played sir
@herpnderpn24848 жыл бұрын
+TacticalBBQSauce I nearly died laughing at farmer loctite. so true it hurts.
@davidhowlett37038 жыл бұрын
hats off to AVE for the patience to deal with that shit! Beer oclock usually starts after the first drill bit is broken and I have to go fetch the wrench I hurled in anger out into the yard.
@herpnderpn24848 жыл бұрын
I learned working on cars/planes/trains, When a tool drops the sound it makes can illicit many responses. Most often the sound of metal/concrete brings on mixed feelings of joy and anger, the sound of metal on metal is enough to ensure a continuous stream of 4 letter words for several minutes. The worst offender however is when it drops and there's no sound.
@benparkin78848 жыл бұрын
+Herpn Derpn there*
@tyguy38767 жыл бұрын
"oh man, that's tougher drilling then when the wife comes home from Tupperware and red wine tasting..." L0L
@tobortine8 жыл бұрын
WD40 - _"..must have high fructose corn syrup in it..."_ that cracked me up, very clever joke.
@snuffy4675 жыл бұрын
I also cracked up at this. Loudly
@tjdjultima5 жыл бұрын
tobortine except that the D stands for desiccant I did too
@Randomnamed15 жыл бұрын
Way to ruin a good nugget fellas..
@stanburton62244 жыл бұрын
@@tjdjultima ACTUALLY it stands for displacement. It was developed under US Government contract for Titan missile crews to displace water from connectors and fittings to prevent accidental contact between water and the hypergolic fuels/oxidizers used in the missile.
@samturnau23835 жыл бұрын
Then he finds out it’s a left hand thread
@tairegaming54644 жыл бұрын
That whould be a nightmare
@cryangallegos4 жыл бұрын
Literally the only reason we keep the square extractors on hand
@royjaskowski9054 жыл бұрын
Use a standard twist drill on left handed thread. If it grabs sides it can spin it free.
@iliketurttles1324 жыл бұрын
Lol
@spiritfree50504 жыл бұрын
@@cryangallegos what are they made of some sort of thougher metal? I'm a noob at this stuff
@t33s8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone else destroy drill bits for a change.
@agwhitaker7 жыл бұрын
13:15 - NO ! Not using a croissant wrench on a stud extractor ! Uneven lopsided force makes the extractor want to bend, only they do not bend , they snap, like you demonstrated. Use a tap handle, supplies even force to both sides of the extractor. Gets the broken stud out more often, reduces the amount of colourfull language.
@cryangallegos6 жыл бұрын
I take out stuck screws and bolts all the time, as in almost daily, almost never use a tap handle with ezyouts, but also typically use Hansen bits or sometimes those grabits with a proper cobalt drill bit.
@sundown7986 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But also more in the heat expanding and the tapidy tap....
@songsinger5316 жыл бұрын
LMAO the more you watch knowing this, the more it looks like he just did it on purpose. 😂😂 tap handle is an amazing solution, though! Wouldn't have thought of that one.
@guy_incognito75385 жыл бұрын
Yeah I find bread wrenches never really work well
@BMikeAD5 жыл бұрын
True. Assuming you can get a t handle into the spot where the broken bolt is. I usually just drill em out. Just got to ensure you center punch it dead center lest you mangle the threads.
@einherrjar8 жыл бұрын
great video, i love watching others work on my day off. some bolts you are just not going to get out, like steel or stainless bolts in aluminium, like the bolts in exhaustflanges on a 2-stroke engine's cylinder. they been fired up and cooled down so much that they pretty much bond chemically or something. only thing to do is drill through, and cut new threads, or drill it out and cut new threads one size bigger. never used extracters in the shop for fear of breaking them and adding a new problem.
@DoctorJelly8 жыл бұрын
If it absolutely has to be saved, AvE has done a previous video showing the use of Alum to dissolve steel out of aluminum. Downfall is that it takes days...
@suspectsn0thing8 жыл бұрын
I am spending 15 minutes of my life watching a man attempt to get broken bolts out of things. For the second time this month.
@spiritfree50504 жыл бұрын
its a good way to spend 15 mins
@whatman61993 жыл бұрын
The first one was on pornhub eh ?
@ww3218 жыл бұрын
I usually start drilling with the smallest bit I feel safe with drilling and not breaking. Something less than an 1/8". Don't drill all the way through with that small bit. Walk the bit around and make sure it's dead center. I can't stress enough how important getting dead center is. After you get a center hole started then go a little bigger. I rarely fool with easy outs anymore. Just drill and tap. If you don't have the right drills and taps or don't have the money to buy them . You probably shouldn't be trying this yourself. You don't turn easy outs with a crescent wrench. Use a tap handle . When using taps and easy outs, watch for torsion in the bit. You can see it twisting before it breaks. 45 years after watching someone do this and thinking " that looks easy, I can do that" It's still not easy but I rarely fail to get one fixed. I've only welded a nut on a broken bolt once or twice.
@hughmongus71078 жыл бұрын
@AvE have you tried putting your magnet in a bit of plastic bag or a finger of latex glove? makes getting all the metal bits off easier
@DavidKholz7 жыл бұрын
Man, that's actually great advise! Thanks
@Joe30pack7 жыл бұрын
Good call. Shavings on a magnet can be like a sticky booger on your finger.
@nonya95763 жыл бұрын
If the magent is not strong enough. The plastic bag will significantly reduce induction
@rileyfenley5228 жыл бұрын
I was one of those suckers who paid &45-$60 almost 15 years ago for those crapsman extractor pack. Still have them and don't ever remember getting them to work in anything metal.
@trollforge8 жыл бұрын
+AvE They still weren't worth what he paid.
@mjasz43414 жыл бұрын
My dad always calls easy outs "maybe outs" lmao
@warriorcraft41918 жыл бұрын
Any problem on earth can be solved with the proper application of high explosives.
@ishouldgetalif38 жыл бұрын
when in Doubt, C4. -Jamie Walrus Hyneman
@KaedennYT8 жыл бұрын
James Franklin "Walrus" Hyneman, that is.
@ishouldgetalif38 жыл бұрын
Kaedenn sometimes my toaster smells like pills.
@apexmike8498 жыл бұрын
"You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"
@kcuhc847 жыл бұрын
It's administering the THC to the explosives that's the problem.
@arnewolz70438 жыл бұрын
Who here has no idea what the hell they are watching but just think this guy is fucking hilarious?
@brandonquenneville73307 жыл бұрын
no... this is Canadian*
@greenjoe42026 жыл бұрын
he's my uncle from another blood line.
@sethtchristensen6 жыл бұрын
Arne Wolz I think that’s how most of us end up subscribing....
@joeys54296 жыл бұрын
yes combining work and fun good vid though
@heavymetalweld8055 жыл бұрын
My pops calls WD-40 panther piss, I don't care for the stuff on account of the taste.
@mike136rr5 жыл бұрын
WD 40=waste dollars 40c at a time.
@carpetsomething5 жыл бұрын
there's a shop near me that sells the cans of wd40 with fucked up paint on them or damaged caps or whatever at like half the price of normal wd
@gregoryprice25935 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the taste of a different piss?
@joeayers37775 жыл бұрын
Wwhhaatt? Panther piss tastes like wd40, thanks for the info.
@Nick_papagiorgio_5 жыл бұрын
Wd 40. Is called weasel piss in Canada!
@Robertlavigne18 жыл бұрын
Watching your frustrations and bit snapping have made my last 3 days of hitting my head on the wall with a project feel a little better. A treat as always, Thanks!
@HiddenTreasure7777 жыл бұрын
Left hand drills work much better when turning them counter clockwise ; )
@dustinwolfe95915 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say. The grabits are terrible but they occasionally work if you spin them the correct way
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt5 жыл бұрын
But what about if you only own a right hand drill?
@G.Sharb15 жыл бұрын
NIGHTOWL 1963 hold it with your left hand, duh.
@magpieblue8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for entertaining and educating me. I wish I had been taught by someone like you - although I realise I'm only seeing a small snippet of you and the reality could be far different. I am bound to come across all sorts of sheered and rusted in fittings if I ever get around to fixing some cars I have; this is valuable knowledge. I've never been confident with any of the skills I have learned, but you help to offset that and provide a good source of information that helps to fill the gap in my head. Thank you for another great production.
@Slugsie18 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch as always. I thought the point of those tapered threaded bits was that you pre drilled a hole, then run them in at low speed and let them tap into the bolt until they bottom out and get a firm grip thus allowing you to just unscrew the bolt that way.
@sleeptyper8 жыл бұрын
That's the idea. Works best if you just don't use power tools.
@spoofer208 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was kind of cringing when he went full speed into that shit lol...
@YouTubeSupportTeams8 жыл бұрын
same, i was like, thats never going to grip in a million sundays at that speed and will also damage the bit. the job still looked a nightmare regardless
@wobblysauce8 жыл бұрын
Would would watch a video of some thing done proper like.
@sleeptyper8 жыл бұрын
gacekky1 I tap them in the drilled hole with a hammer, then i get a wrench and start turning them. That way i have full control to the torque all the time. It's very easy to strip threads with power tools if you have a steel bolt in aluminium casting - like a cylinder head of an engine.
@meatloaf6669995 жыл бұрын
I work at a Tire Shredder as the only maintenance guy and we have two Columbus McKinnon (CM for short) shredders. They have two large rotors that turn into each other with rows of 1.8, 2.0 and 2.2" wide rectangular knives that are held to the rotor with three bolts each, 3/4" head 1/2" thread. about 360 knives per rotor. If something goes through the machine that it can't cut then it'll either break a knife or break the bolts holding the knife to the rotor. (chain reaction and normally causes hours of work.) To avoid taking the machine apart and needing to setup our mag drill to drill out the bolts (about 3 hours of work) we use a welding rod much like the "X-Tractalloy" rods you've probably heard of. Its tricky and the margin for error is very narrow when starting the process because before you lay down the flux with the first strike you can easily weld the broken bolt to the threads if you're not centered. But I just peck away at it. Strike and burn a bit then pull out. Wait for it to cool to cherry red. Drive back in. Eventually it builds a weld up out of the hole, weld a nut on her, blow on it with the compressed air to speed up to cooling process. After about a minuet we hit it with PB Blaster (not sure that it does much but we do it anyway.) and back the bolt out!
@Gaark8 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna set up a bolt extraction business, cos I love to swear
@bamd87705 жыл бұрын
I like to tighten the bolt slightly before loosening it if it is stuck, helps break it loose I think. Old timer taught me that long ago.
@dwrldgster31513 жыл бұрын
really
@bedebill3 жыл бұрын
correct , heat 1st then WD then loosen
@BreakAwayXD8 жыл бұрын
Use a 50/50 mix of acetone and automatic transmission fluid, some old granddad knowledge passed on to me
@melaniew77msn8 жыл бұрын
Marvel mystery oil works well also when mixed with acetone! I like it a bit better because the final solution is thinner and that makes me think it will penetrate deeper and faster. Marvels also is like a high detergent cleaner.
@dixoncider72568 жыл бұрын
this works. use it on all my automotive parts.
@apexmike8498 жыл бұрын
Never tried it, but sounds like it would be great.
@kho247268 жыл бұрын
I was entertained by the video and comments. Since I don't own a welder, I would block off the center hole and heat the bolts slightly to get the penetrant to sink in more. It wouldn't be enough heat to cause a problem. Regarding tough bolts, that are turning a little and stopping...do not force and break the extracting tool. Instead, reverse and tighten to break loose the crud. Back and forth with patience and finesse, makes the job go faster than dealing with broken tools in the hole. When I first learned to cut threads in high school shop class, I learned to turn forward to cut maybe half a turn, then reverse a little to break the chips and repeat. Same principle when removing a broken bolt.
@mauricecotton78858 жыл бұрын
hi there I have a simple cheap tip from a simple cheap mechanic. firstly drill into the centre of the bolt about 10-13mm deep and just over half the overall the bolt diameter then using a torx bit or a hexagonal bit use it to broach the hole you drilled using a good big hammer then it should just unscrew;-) Ps as you probably know most of the removal tools you can buy will wind into the broken bolt and can expand the bolt into the internal threads. but a torx bit gripping a 13mm deep hole reduces this problem. ( sorry my brain is graduated in metric only! I am from northern Ireland that's my excuse and I am sticking to it Ave.)
@davidharris21475 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the technique I used after shearing the head off of one the bolts I was torquing down when reinstalling my transmission pan. Drilling into the bolt was a bit difficult as it was recessed into the hole. But I did manage. I hammered a torx bit into it and it spun right off. I did use a pair of vice grips to start it turning, but once broken loose, I was able to spin it out with my fingers. After pulling the torx bit out of the bolt, the bit took no damage at all.
@nickwilliams76883 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite KZbin channel
@sjm981267 жыл бұрын
The absolute best method to remove bolts is to tig weld a nut to the end. If its broken off flush ill build up the bolt shank with weld until i have something to slip a nut over. Weld it, quench it and back it out with an impact. So far Its worked every time for me
@Hrafnhistorical8 жыл бұрын
Some of these idioms are completely brilliant.
@Ronburgandy0078 жыл бұрын
lost hope in humanity at 13:21
@Alpha-ro8sc4 жыл бұрын
Man, I am so happy you popped up on my radar with this old vid today. Was bummed, watched, laughed...pondered now right as rain Thanks Dude.
@Elon4258 жыл бұрын
Slow the drill speed down and use more pressure, your drill bits will last a lot longer. being in aviation, I've drilled more hardware than most people will see in their lives. Slow and lots of pressure will do the trick every time.
@ozfartface19148 жыл бұрын
+billybobjoe198 he literally said he's an expert, and you said you're not, so maybe listen to him.
@kevinliang95028 жыл бұрын
That doesn't work when you're using a 1/8" drill bit.
@Elon4258 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Liang majority of what I drill is with a #21, #30 (1/8th), or a #40. it works perfectly fine.
@MegaMetinMetin8 жыл бұрын
+billybobjoe198 drilling stone =/= drilling metal
@inthefade8 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear what a materials engineer has to say about when you should use pressure and a low speed versus a high speed with low pressure. I'm just a visual artist who has an interest in this sort of thing, and has done a fair amount of construction with different materials, but to me it seems intuitive that different media would respond in different ways.
@xaviesovis14534 жыл бұрын
I learned more practical factual knowledge from your videos then years of community College courses, and workshops. Cant thanks ya enough.
@ReverendVW8 жыл бұрын
heat bolt only (oxy acetyl), strike (and i mean really throw your purse at it)straight down at the bolt and then let it sit for a few minutes. hit with penettating oil and let it cool. left hand twist drill, more penetrant then extract. the key is the strike to jostle all the corrosion in the threads.
@DennysCountryLife7 жыл бұрын
As a millwright and a farmer, I got a really good laugh out of that last comment! It's always nice to watch other people pulling busted bolts from a work piece. I've done my fair share, and have botched the shit out of more than I would like to admit! Great video man
@adamabbett67595 жыл бұрын
“Farmer Loctite” 😂😂 this is why I watch
@leesont217 жыл бұрын
Channel the inner millwright!! Love it! 1460 Alberta Millwrights represent! Thanks for the videos.. I've watched all your stuff and there is always something to learn and take away from them. Keep on keepin on
@rationalmartian8 жыл бұрын
Howlee fuck. I've done too many and too much of this shite. Used to work in mining (fitter/engineer), and I can't imagine a much worse environment for corrosion and seizing except maybe a marine environment. But it's even worse down a pit, one can't just bust out the warm spanner. No flames or combustibles. To the extent of not even aluminium being allowed (aluminium unlike other metals causes a spark hot enough to ignite methane gas), unless specially licenced and treated, and then it was very rare, basically underground diesel loco's engine parts. Used to be a vehicle mechanic too. Water pump bolts and exhaust studs/bolts were always the bane of a mechanic's life. Usually in a pain in the arse position too. Being able to tackle them on the bench like this is sheer luxury.
@godfreypoon51488 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Think of that joy. I, too, have spent many of my days in the underworld of coal.
@gglovato8 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for proper ALUMINIUM :P ¿so a steel spark is not hot enough to ignite methane? huh who knew, the alu part sounds about right since alu IS combustible/explosive(they don't make bombs out of iron powder after all :D )
@KaedennYT8 жыл бұрын
Alunimnothermic reactions are no fucking joke. Take thermite for instance. That shit will melt through practically anything you can imagine (except cojones of steel; those can only be touched by a qualified wife)
@1001ewaste8 жыл бұрын
My grandfather worked Coal and Gold in SA and worked oil and gas in quite a few third world shitholes, nothing paid the bills quite like the natives and the job trying to kill you. Offshore oil and gas installations and the like, nice marine environment with all it's corrosive goodness with a liberal application of health and safety for obvious reasons. Would you like a +40 or -40c work environment to go with that :|
@apexmike8498 жыл бұрын
We don't usually try (down t' pit) - send the whole thing to the surface, if it's that important, or simply replace it.
@davidwelsh8297 жыл бұрын
As an exercise in futility I once did this: I had a motor mount bolt break on my 0470 (aluminum block aircraft eng) on my airboat. I drilled the bolt and used a Proto easy out which broke just as the one AvE had, I drilled a hole half in the bolt and half in the easy out, 1/2 inch in that bit broke off. I tried various other bits and tools and ended up with a Dremel and some diamond burr bits for carving that I had. It took 6 hours to get the hole emptied of all the shit broke off in it and I had to Helicoil the damn thing also. I wish AvE was around that day to cheer me up.
@cubleycat8 жыл бұрын
I love the commentary and the accent. I know that feeling when you break a drill bit right in the hole :-/
@AZBADBOYz8 жыл бұрын
Ave bother, I have much to teach you on this subject! First off, those damn old school type easy outs (brand name) are the devil and "when" they break, you're really in for a fun time, so I say don't even think about those damn things. The Craftsman type with drill can work but only on bolts that aren't corroded or seized in but at least they don't typically break off in the hole. My method is simply start off with a center punch, punch center of bolt, start with 1/8" drill bit of the standard rotation type and work your way up to just under the depths of the thread in diameter. What's remaining will be paper thin metal/bolt and most likely will come off while using your last step of the drill bit size. NOW FOR THE BEST ADVICE! Many moons ago, I broke one of those damn easy out type extractors in my racing bikes crankshaft, which of course is not an easy fix. Knowing that tool bit steel is harder than hell also means it's brittle, which is key to how I figured this out. I use a carpenter's spring nail set/center punch like "B" in this photo www.leevalley.com/en/images/item/Woodworking/Drilling/24k0101s1.jpg Most of the time, theres some of the easy out sticking up to catch an edge on, put the punch on any outside edge you can catch, put "saftey squints on" and pull the sping loaded weight side back and giver hell! Squint extra hard because this shit is dangerous to your vision but has worked 90% of the time for me. The aftermath may leave some junk behind that you can pick and punch out but after than you can proceed with my prefered method and save your hole :-)
@darrenmartin21958 жыл бұрын
What happened the new mill you purchased?
@krazytroutcatcher5 жыл бұрын
Yup, you’re right, I don’t think we make tools anymore in Engerland. I try various methods for extracting studs. One is, I’ll centre punch the stud, in the centre, then slightly angle the centre punch, going 12 o clock, then 9, 6, 3, repeat, tapping away with a small hammer, steady away with patience. If not, then lathe drills, they’re reverse spiral, drilling with these can unscrew the stud. If that doesn’t work, try place a nut over the stud, then weld through the nut centre, don’t weld the stud to the housing or whatever the workpiece is for obvious reasons. Don’t worry too much over welding something that is a pressure vessel. If it goes bang, you won’t know....
@mustie18 жыл бұрын
l like to drill them out to the threads then run a tap down it, but most of my stuff is rusted in.
@greenjoe42026 жыл бұрын
Mustie1 damn dude keepem lubed.
@spiritfree50504 жыл бұрын
isnt that what penetrating oils are for?
@Novous5 жыл бұрын
I hate KZbin. I haven't gotten a reminder or notification for AvE in over a year.
@rQbinN8 жыл бұрын
Drill a hole, hammerjam a torx bit in there and there you go! Cheaper with torx bits than extractors, works almost every time
@gregwarner37534 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that idea.
@RinoaL8 жыл бұрын
4:58 only good thing about WD40 is the smell. it does seem to do ok for coating and keeping rust off old tools though, so thats good.
@DanielWilsontech7 жыл бұрын
You have to try Kroil sometime, best penetrating oil I've ever used
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney5 жыл бұрын
Kroil is far and away the best penetrating oil I've ever used, and I've used them all. PB Blaster is also excellent, I use it for really crusty, filthy stuff like leaf spring shackle bolts and such, it seems to penetrate dirt a little better. A good dousing in Kroil followed by a few sharp whacks with a whammer, followed by a few hours/overnight, and then judicious application of appropriate tools, I find, virtually never fails me. I'm a hobbyist hot-rod/Jeep/dual-sport motorcycle weirdo and professional IBEW journeyman commercial/industrial electrician, for insight as to what kind of garbage I have to work on regularly. Acetone and transmission fluid (2 parts ATF to 1 part acetone) is probably the best penetrating lubricant there is, but doesn't come in handy aerosol cans that can be carried in your glovebox or tool pouch with precision straw snouts to snorkel into little places.
@KozmykJ5 жыл бұрын
Spiral extractors are always a bit iffy but I've found them to bite better when turned slowly.
@vermontgasman7 жыл бұрын
Watching you makes me feel so much better aboot my life. Thank you Ave.
@TheApothecaryAus8 жыл бұрын
Loctite FREEZE-IT - in Australia. Why haven't you tried the super cancerous Acetone + Powersteering fluid special?
@alcyr56558 жыл бұрын
I need to try that, a lot of the time I mix ATF and brake fluid 50/50.
@cmendoza10948 жыл бұрын
Mm, sounds like it smells a treat.
@alcyr56558 жыл бұрын
Lol, it actually smells good. But it destroys plastic spray bottles. That's why I use a glass jar and small paint brush now. An added bonus is that it doesn't freeze during our Canadian winters.
@TheApothecaryAus8 жыл бұрын
the fuck does "freeze" mean?
@alcyr56558 жыл бұрын
When it gets to -35 C or colder, it doesn't turn into a popsicle
@netmagi5 жыл бұрын
I love when you do these style vids. You've essentially created a new form of art. I don't mean that as a compliment. I mean it literally, and as a compliment :/
@piratapan8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, what is that clump of metal?
@remagairsoftllc8 жыл бұрын
+AvE Secret oncology stuff?
@DoRC8 жыл бұрын
A magnet for collecting the shavings mebbe?
@Electroblud8 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the magnet he uses to get the chips away? It's a magnet.^^
@piratapan8 жыл бұрын
No, the round fat thing he is extracting bolts from.
@christopherlejc80468 жыл бұрын
+piratapan secret hydraulic thingy ma doogigger
@johannesbekker19705 жыл бұрын
I took out many broken bolts by welding very carefully a little blob of a high quality stainless welding rod on top of the sheared bolt until it protrudes high enough to grab it with vice grip, by which time the heat would have cancelled any rust or locktight holding the broken stub. It works far better than anything sold on the market. A tip : hold the welding rod 90 degrees to the surface when welding, using a slightly higher current to assure a good weld. Why a stainless rod ? It grabs onto other steels in a clean and strong manner with no blowholes or irregularities associated with mild steel welding rods. When it is still tight weld a cap screw on there and use an allen key to extract the stub after adding some diesel to the job, an excellent penetrating fluid.
@DustanWebb8 жыл бұрын
why wouldn't you thru drill then spray with the freezer spray for better cold penetration < is that a thing? lol
@NobodyAskedForThis8 жыл бұрын
The theory of progression. Start with the least destructive method and work your way up.
@zlaya848 жыл бұрын
Necrophilia?
@MrROTD8 жыл бұрын
Might help who knows hey?
@Nate-wu8rr4 жыл бұрын
I have had some complaints about that aftertaste after cleaning fruits and veggies but the presentation points from the shine are top shelf! This is good for most but a pro tip for when you have special guests (like in-laws) and you don't mind chipping out a few extra Washingtons! A quick injection of ethylene glycol and the sweet flavor covers all hints of aftertaste! You're Welcome!
@PaulAdamsTheHandmadeFisherman8 жыл бұрын
of course we still make stuff in england, I just cannot remember what it is, yes i remember, tea, oh not that is from India . No I have got it, we make the Language, you try speaking without us, not so clever now are we?
@AdrianvanNunen8 жыл бұрын
You think that's the Queen's good English that AvE is manglin' there, sir?
@PaulAdamsTheHandmadeFisherman8 жыл бұрын
In fairness to him he has fully grasped the the concepts of Highperbole and the correct use of the malapropism
@jeffplunkett79947 жыл бұрын
Paul Adams like your pronunciation of Jagwire without the R
@PetitCorpsSalade4 жыл бұрын
They try speaking without your people, but it isn't very successful
@shadowfall20114 жыл бұрын
Well...fair enough but f*ck you all the same sir.
@scottcarr32643 жыл бұрын
I had a machinist come to me with a broken off screw in a small milling cutter, the screw was very hard and I couldn't drill it, it was broken off under flush, so there was nothing other than try to weld a nut to it, but the problem was the screw was 2mm in diameter, and the initial arc just welded the whole thing to the cutter body, oh well you can't win them all.
@phrodendekia5 жыл бұрын
This is almost exactly the procedure I go through every single time. Canuckistan or Argentina, extracting broken bolts are the fuckiest trick to perform
@BlackthorneBuilds7 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a video about extracting bolts just the other day and wondered if you'd talked about it. Turns out you had. Thanks for the video. I had already tried a few of these methods but this confirms my suspicions regarding my next step which involves heat. It's just a pain because the bolt is recessed about 40mm down in a 10mm diameter hole. The best part? Of course it's a chewed up flat head button cap. I'll get it eventually!
@NickNameNick28 жыл бұрын
Don't you have an Electric discharge machine that would be ideal for removing the broken bolts?
@GothicPotato28 жыл бұрын
+AvE Just as a heads up, your "How you know somebody is having a bad day" link isn't working.
@hyperplastic8 жыл бұрын
Remove the "www."
@Edgeman168 жыл бұрын
Works if you remove the www. from the front.
@hadrianhaine52047 жыл бұрын
something I have used when a easyout (Bolt extractor) Snapped in a broken Bolt was (and I know it's not suitable in all situations) but if you are able to tape it out to the next size up, get a diamond tipped hole sore the size of the Bolt and drill around the snapped extractor. I 8mm diamond hole saw bit to remove a snapped extractor from harden Cromoly motorcycle frame and then drilled and tapped to 10mm. great videos man.
@MauroTamm8 жыл бұрын
I just end up "milling" a vertical slit so i could use a flathead screwdriver.
@godbluffvdgg8 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@gramursowanfaborden58208 жыл бұрын
i use a diamond cutting disc on a dremel, if i'm feeling cocky i sometimes even go for a Philips configuration with the little diamond pokey bits.
@MrTheHillfolk8 жыл бұрын
+grumpybill when I get it out , I Dremel a smiley face on it.
@MrTheHillfolk8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes mig welding a nut on the snapped off stud works too. It seems like sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to stick and get enough heat soak goin, so have a gaggle of crappy nuts to use. There's about 80 to 93 ways to do this job.
@MauroTamm8 жыл бұрын
I think drugs are unnecessary for that.
@ggroombr8 жыл бұрын
This is so good! Im glad to see that I'm not the only one with the ability to royals root drill bits in quick succession!
@icondonnied8 жыл бұрын
Farmer Loctite... That made me chuckle!
@frognuts695 жыл бұрын
i have a couple years at anAerospace welding facility, we would weld small beads on top of the broken bolt and then get a purchase on it to spin it out, you're welcome. those back-out reverse extractors work 100% of the time on soft steel screws in wood for me
@lbhsbz7 жыл бұрын
Thats the smallest 15/16 drill bit I've ever seen.....must be some sorta british sizing
@pauldormont44706 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I read the /64 just as he said that!
@BrooksMoses5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's 15/16ths of a Whitworth, not of an inch, I think.
@wyvern45888 жыл бұрын
Ooooh the joys of being a mechanic in the salt belt, especially when you work on fleet cars that have never seen a car wash or a garage.
@tsw1997568 жыл бұрын
Being a machinist I don't even see broken bolts till they show up in my shop with a broken drill bit or broken ez out stuck in the already broken bolt. Rule of thumb the more broken shit in the hole the higher the price of extraction. Bumblefucks never stop toll it's completely dickered.
@Pilotdoo18 жыл бұрын
Found over the years of drilling aircraft screws and bolts that if I drill at a medium speed the bit will last for 8 or nine bolts. Also the granddads easy outs are still golden. Have ground some down to fit the drill bit I want to use and also grinding a smaller easy out and using the portion that is close to the shank gives a stronger bit. Also invested in one of those T- Handle ratcheting bit holders, another time saver. Time to put out some more fires. Aircraft taxing up.
@enlishbob8 жыл бұрын
Your opinion of fish cakes raises an eyebrow! Having just finished oiling the winter greens, the Concubine hath shed her carapace. The flesh is willing and the spirit be fermented- Tally Ho. "Cacher la Saucisse" xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@LucaHulot8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand.
@TheCraigy838 жыл бұрын
3 years straight muhamed is the highest registored name for new born child in england/scotland .
@LucaHulot8 жыл бұрын
fatbarry barry muslim never were a creative community when it came to names.
@TheCraigy838 жыл бұрын
Luca Hulot ya think lol
@jnms988 жыл бұрын
enlishbob
@bigginsmcsauce6 жыл бұрын
Mr. AvE--YOU are my spirit animal!
@chrisstephens66738 жыл бұрын
For best results never ever use a hand held drill to drill out broken bolts, unless you have to of course.
@1pcfred8 жыл бұрын
I think he was intentionally limiting himself to what a home gamer might be able to work with? For best results don't break hardware in the first place. Because extracting sucks no matter how you slice it.
@chrisstephens66738 жыл бұрын
Oh yes definitely sucks,but pays well.
@1pcfred8 жыл бұрын
Chris Stephens I suppose if it is not your hardware that broke then there can be a financial upside to it.
@chrisstephens66738 жыл бұрын
I have broken some myself over the years, but now I get them out for others and I wish owners wouldn't try themselves as they tend to bollocks things up by going off centre or breaking easi-outs. I do though admire them for trying but I just wish they wouldn't.
@1pcfred8 жыл бұрын
Chris Stephens That's the problem with hardware. Once you start going down the garden path, it can quickly lead to a slippery slope. Mistakes add up. Breaking the hardware is strike one. Drilling off center is strike two. Breaking the easy out is strike three, and then they know they're out!
@MrItsthething5 жыл бұрын
1:24 You can also use liquid propane if you're very careful. If you turn a blowtorch over and let the propane run out, it's a good but highly flammable cryogenic liquid, so do it outside AND with a fan running. The vapors are heavier than air and you will produce a lot of them. I've used this trick with pilot bushings on engines.
@bushelfoot8 жыл бұрын
I enjoy left hand drills to extraxt bolts..
@fordrac1ng818 жыл бұрын
nobody enjoys extracting bolts, left hand bit or otherwise
@bushelfoot8 жыл бұрын
It build's character, or in Ave's case a character lol...
@4wdsome4446 жыл бұрын
Well it would be fucking hard using s clockwise drill XD
@NDC11155 жыл бұрын
My go to other than left hand drill bits and twist extractors, is an air powered engraving scribe. Works like a charm
@probablynotabigtoe94075 жыл бұрын
"patents must be up" Lmfao I would not assume that... Notice how the packaging has no brand names or labels, it's like that so it isn't easy to trace.
@NeverMetTheGuy6 жыл бұрын
Still the greatest channel n KZbin.
@Dwdanieldotdd8 жыл бұрын
need to break out the edm type disintergrator.. they work. t... W
@83nav8 жыл бұрын
The bad day video link leads to nowhere, could you please check the link?
@station2408 жыл бұрын
edit: remove the www from the start then blame uchoob
@Assimilator7028 жыл бұрын
There's a guy in KZbin that demonstrates that machine. He says he's the last resort. He does alot of engine heads.
@kendigjl4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see freeze spray + one of those spring loaded nail drivers (maybe a super homemade one?) just to see if a bolt can be fractured. Come to think of it, a stand mounted spring loaded whacker would be an interesting tool. Maybe with a laser pointer, and some kind of high powered spring that needs a crank/lever to stretch it, and a release mechanism that can be actuated while standing behind a lexan shield - this would be cool to see.
@jondoe66188 жыл бұрын
wd-40 is complete shit!. Real mechanics/professionals know acetone and transmission fluid mix is the best..
@1pcfred8 жыл бұрын
I use WD-40 as a rust inhibitor. It works good for that. Not the best mind you. But all things considered it is best for my use. When you factor in cost, and ease of application WD-40 is the winner then. Nothing works well if you won't use it. I got no problems slathering my tools up with WD-40 though. If I don't they'll rust to hell here too.
@Assimilator7028 жыл бұрын
I just mixed up tranny fluid and mineral spirits and it works well. Need the acetone for my fiberglass projects. That stuff is not as cheap as it used to be.
@1pcfred8 жыл бұрын
Joe Rico nothing is as cheap as it used to be. I won't crack open a can of fiberglass resin without some acetone on hand either. Because doing that leads to a permanent case of geriatric wolfman palms.
@KamiCrit8 жыл бұрын
Going in I was sure AvE was gonna cook up that mix.
@andydouglass13748 жыл бұрын
3in1 is better for rust, if the part/tool is receptive (clean, dry, no tiny places). It won't run into tiny places like wd40.
@standuporshutup8 жыл бұрын
Those Grab-bit dealies (what I've always seen 'em called) are pretty good for aircraft purposes. Because damn near every small aircraft from 1950-the 2000's was aluminum everything. So for stripped screws in that purpose they work great. But I never imagined using them on a bolt, I'm not surprised they didn't do much work.
@Friariah8 жыл бұрын
PB Blaster kicks WD-40's ass. I never use WD-40 anymore.
@TheAmericanUhate8 жыл бұрын
I love PB Blaster, grew up with WD40 as well lol. I use PB for any bolts/screws I need to break loose but I still use WD40 for some other task. WD actually works awesome if you spill a drink on anything electronic. I spilled a drink on my computer mouse and flooded the inside of it. I took it apart and sprayed the board down with WD40 and let it sit for about 10 minutes, then patted the board down with a paper towel to dry it off. It was good as new after that.
@Friariah8 жыл бұрын
That's some good information to know, thanks!
@thekingofbeez31928 жыл бұрын
TheAmericanUhate now that is interesting. will have to remember
@hockeyguy8207 жыл бұрын
Yikes. Get an isopropyl alcohol based printed circuit board cleaning spray and an old toothbrush.
@mcearl80737 жыл бұрын
I agree that Pb blaster is much better than WD but I fucking hate the smell of it and it lingers for days it seems so I only use it if I have to. To add to what the other guy said about WD, I drove through a flooded area once and some water got on my distributor or something and my car wouldn’t run. I went into a gas station and got a can of WD and sprayed it down and she fired right up and ran fine. WD stands for water displacer, not sure what the hell 40 means.
@deansnipah28954 жыл бұрын
When it comes to those Grabbits, I always use a left handed drill instead of the ones thats built into the extractor since they dull out very quickly. I also put a socket on the extractor and never a drill since i can control the torque and how slowly i can extract without stripping it out
@ivordripatmenose82528 жыл бұрын
All the gear no idea !
@thetech80185 жыл бұрын
Usually do this maybe once a week on old motors. My method is find a washer with the hole the same size diameter of the broken bolt. I hold it over the end of the bolt then. weld the washer hole and the bolt together. Then weld a decent size bolt to the washer. Something I can put a wrench on. Then while it’s still hot douse it with deep creep. Then wait a few mins until cool. Now grab a wrench and slowly move back and forth with little pressure. Works every time!
@ToeCutter4548 жыл бұрын
there's a hell of an oil called "Kroil" that a lot of shop guys use because it gets into every nook and cranny, supposed to be the best on the market. www.kanolabs.com/
@Willgtl8 жыл бұрын
Yep, Kroil is one of the best penetrating oils I've come across, although due to the price, I'm partial to the cheaper PB Blaster. But if you want some real good shit, 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. I've also had some pretty good success with a 50/50 mix of ATF and Marvel Mystery Oil.
@ToeCutter4548 жыл бұрын
yea marvel mystery oil works wonders too! usually the PB blast you spray on before you even get the tools out and give it like 10+ min to soak in while you're getting everything around, then when you're ready to start work on it they pop right free!
@wobblysauce8 жыл бұрын
Good ol 50/50 here.
@Armithius8 жыл бұрын
We use Kroil in the aircraft industry all the time. That stuff is fantastic.
@wyvern45888 жыл бұрын
I've tried it, unfortunately the salt belt can rust things together tighter than welds, didn't help on EGR cooler bolts on an international engine, its better than pb however. I hate pb blaster.
@UberArchangel8 жыл бұрын
As a diesel tech I deal with stuff like this fairly often. My suggestions are hit with a center punch, wire brush it, heat around outside of hole with torch or shrink actual bolt with liquid nitrogen. Apply sili kroil. Use double cut dome top carbide bit that leaves 1/4 -1/8 of the bolt on either side. Then use Snap-On SR40K set. Hammer in tight and use either a tap handle or a 8/4 point socket and a ratchet. Gets them out 85-90% of the time.
@shmalax48027 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but if you see it, try Kroil, that shit is insanely awesome. If you're in Canada though, I don't believe you can take it up there
@WilReid7 жыл бұрын
I too thought about Kroil while watching the video, but then I realized it would have just been a "right tool for the job, and look it works!" video and really boring. Same would go for LPS penetrating fluid or WD Specialist penetrating fluid instead of the craptastic catch all WD-40. Amazon.ca sells Kroil, so I assume it's legal up there.
@avsforthecup747 жыл бұрын
ATF and acetone is another option. Cheap and readily available.
@bradcloud76707 жыл бұрын
Stopped to second this. ATF and Acetone have been tested to be BETTER THAN KROIL. 50% acetone. 50% ATF
@sparkjax14 жыл бұрын
You are so enjoyable to listen to thank you for what you do
@Centurionchains7 жыл бұрын
Now with aircraft hilocks. Steel - Easy. I do this all day. Titanium - Don't fuck up... Inconel - Bring me every bit in the shop.
@Northern_7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you work with Composi-Loks/Jo-Bolts, but the removal kit for those works great for mid-sizes of titanium Hi-Lites. A few of those sizes have similar head shapes, so it centers the bit nicely, and the straight flute carbide bits seem to eat right into them. Obviously this is more helpful if the kit is company owned instead of your own though haha.
@Ugleskjegg7 жыл бұрын
If the bolts are big enough, you can drill two holes in it to fit the tool that you tighten grinder discs with. with the two pokey bits on it
@dirtmoto27807 жыл бұрын
Ugleskjegg that would be one big ass bolt
@Ugleskjegg7 жыл бұрын
indeed, or drill an angeled hole and stick something hard inside (har har) then twist
@Elon4258 жыл бұрын
Aerokroil!!!!!!
@nickhetzer27448 жыл бұрын
heli coil is better
@jeepmanxj8 жыл бұрын
Came here to state this same thing. That shit is a god damned miracle as far as I'm concerned.
@jeepmanxj8 жыл бұрын
A good quality helicoil is superb. We use them ALL the time in turbo machinery drivetrains because they increase the contact of the fastener and are made of hardened steel So they can hold uncanny torque. We regularly torqued fasteners well beyond 3k lb/ft
@rwbishop8 жыл бұрын
Aero Kroil (which I think just means regular Kroil packaged in an aerosol can), and/or Mouse Milk are pretty much industry leaders in penetrating oils... how did thread inserts end up in this thread?
@trashflood78838 жыл бұрын
Timeserts are fantastic, seems almost no one has heard of them though which is a shame because people will keep using the same crap bound up spring helicoils for plug holes that will keep letting loose and further screwing their hole.
@bigmikeh58275 жыл бұрын
Some advice. Center drills are your friend. Along with a center punch. Ditch the wd40 it junk. Also try an engraver to use the harmonics to get the penetrating lub into the threads.
@redtails8 жыл бұрын
he broke like €50 worth of drill bits during just this video.
@ichjihadi3 жыл бұрын
That Shampoo story, is a great one. It was my introduction to the Old Red Cracker... Good article found within Searchlores. A must see.
@mrgreenswelding28538 жыл бұрын
you only need one good hole!!!
@rediculousman8 жыл бұрын
when I first started as an apprentice, an old bloke taught me to never worry about using extractors. just spend extra time getting the pilot hole dead centre and then drill out the entire bolt. as long as you're careful you get next to no thread damage. most of the time it'll come loose when most of the bolt has been drilled out.