How To Mix Kick & Bass | Luca Pretolesi

[@blakeunderwood1075]

Literally the most direct mixing help

[@gigelbecali8072]

That is just gold. Just like how someone else said: you avoid phase issues from the EQ cuts. Amazing explanation.

[@morsymusic]

I love this low cut idea to hear the problem frequency but then switch to a low shelf so you dont loose the low end completely!

[@yofrantovar9463]

Luca is literally a magician of audio

[@danielbarker2522]

No clue what's happening or what's even changing but it's still cool 👍

[@seantreyfr]

😂😂

[@tomstubbsmusic]

Same. I’m lost

[@SeFu2006]

He’s basically fixing the phase and adding attack again and then once again fixing some more phase issues

[@BudgieDnB]

@@SeFu2006 this mixing method is just making more work for yourself - do your processing then fix phase instead of constantly going back and forth between processing and and phase alignment

[@SeFu2006]

@@BudgieDnB okay but why does he teach it this way?

[@cypressmuzik]

These are the tips mixers need. This is a 💎

[@DavidAskerMusik]

What a rhyme scheme in the the beginning 😀

[@giulioboobzilla]

Yes

[@mosheshohat3486]

Kickstart2 move the fade to the end of low end frequency of the kick. Make sure the bass not bigger then the kick phase shift if needed. Done

[@tubeo94]

Perfect example for not to low cut everything.

[@edoardocoppola1180]

you can reach a pretty analog color with low shelf and without exasperating curves

[@79keydet]

@@edoardocoppola1180 color is about saturation, not about equing

[@edoardocoppola1180]

@@79keydet in music when you use the term color you can refer to many things, i said analog color, it means that if you dont make cuts but shelfs its going to sound more like an analog eq since analog eqs are more "bell curve" sounding and are commonly defined as a more "colorful" option than vst parametrics, so it was about emulating the analog result, if we are talking about the aim of every plug in, saturation is used to bring out more harmonics from a sound, if u use alot of it its going to be more like a distortion, the color is the intrinsic sound that every effect(mostly analogs) has regardless the settings, you could notice that simply applying an eq with no settings on in a track the sound changes just a little bit, maybe it becomes more hot or more cold but it is just the sound passing trough the plug that makes a specific change, well that little change is color, there are plugins that specificly adds color but they are most of the times analog emulators (99 percent of real analogs or analog sims are also used just to add color without touching settings)

[@edoardocoppola1180]

@@79keydet Also color is the shot term for "tone color" that is a synonym of "timbre", so no, color is not about saturation, color is about everything that can change timbre, saturation can change the timbre like many other instruments but is not meant for it, its meant to bring out harmonics from a sound and make it pop out in the mix without actually increase volume. You cant change the color from a saturator its just going to bring a single timbre related to the saturated channel, nothing to do with color controlling, Obviously you can use any effect as you want for any final result but saturators are litherally about saturation, its just a type of distortion.

[@79keydet]

@@edoardocoppola1180 so called "analog color" is just analog circuit distortion harmonics which can be reproduced with a saturation effect in digital. Different analog circuits give different circuit distortion enriching sound with different harmonics. Thats what "analog color" is about. Different analog EQs have different analog colors since their circuits are built different thus introducing different sets of harmonics. Most popular among EQ "analog colors" is Pulteq circuit distortion harmonics set.

[@tamashalo]

King of mixing/mastering 🥳

[@M.W.777]

This was fantastic!!! Experience turns this into a lightning fast job

[@EBMZEQUENZER]

and now the MP3 is worth 99 cents : cheers 🥂

[@rizzbod]

These are some of the most helpful tips 😮

[@noteaks]

This is insane value 🤯

[@musicbydenchik]

Please make a in-depth video about this

[@RicardoSilva-e2n]

There are plenty on mymixlab :)

[@RicardoSilva-e2n]

*The webseite

[@TylerMcDonnell]

Amazing

[@naelbeno6249]

SUCH A GOLD GUY

[@r.velasquezm]

Beautifull

[@alexanderdavis75]

My top 5 producer mantronix

[@Dane_Riazer]

always bringing the Heat Luca!!!! See you in Vegas!!

[@DarkTrapStudio]

Legend.

[@a.ro6]

Great🎉

[@musicforthemind3421]

I would love to give you one of my drum and bass tracks in studio one to see what you would do to it. Proper mixing G 👌

[@D16-i5n]

i can mix it for you

[@AlienVMusic]

lemm try on it,FOR FREE !

[@madhatter7862]

So cool i want to learn these things

[@MrBradbeats]

Holy moly

[@ATK_OSTs]

I think Naa ready song was mastered by you only sir🎉

[@buzzpsy]

Thank you sir

[@Luke-ot6mk]

Fantastic! Which spectrum are you using? Multianalizer?

[@LoneGRoEnt]

Blew my mind

[@JDD___]

Amazing skills. Amen

[@deemarcomusic3941]

I would love too see how he mixes a bassline that hasn‘t as much space as this one has. 😊

[@Bittamin]

So I watched one video talking a bit about this, and if it’s possible to create space, it’s worth trying. Sometimes the writing of a bassline has just as much impact on the way it sounds as anything else. Shortening a few tails can make a dramatic difference 🎉 but that’s just one of many methods

[@veikster1165]

​@@Bittamin yeah, only proper arrangement allow for an awesome mix. Or use side chain, which, imo does not sound as good if bass is written around the kick.

[@bencastor9207]

​@@veikster1165 what? You can make sidechaining subtle or aggressive as hell, there's so much freedom in it, if it sounds bad then I've got some news...

[@Kai_soze]

In that case you need to use a shorter kick that doesn’t have a ton of sub frequencies and more of a transient “thud”.

[@mttlsa686]

Shelf shape (if you're not working in linear phase mode) creates phase shift anyways (obviously the more you cut the more the phase shifts).

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

But sounds more stable than a locut

[@mttlsa686]

@@mirkomarkovic3438 at first i've read "locust" and i thought why tf has a locust something to do with this? 🤣

[@tilltravels89]

in the last step, whats that analyzing plugin `called? awesome tips btw!

[@ENDOFFEB]

beautifully done

[@adikeys]

Thank you 🙏

[@TruongDaoMB]

Master

[@djorion_]

I love this😊

[@FreeTimeSpacken]

uhh nice tipp thanks !

[@mohammadkanaan6697]

wow, I mean this is so creative and well explained

[@9bass826]

Like a boss 🔥🔥🔥

[@kostantinosmag2986]

Nice 😊

[@lavonpem6563]

Wow

[@longdee5192]

super cool! But what's the plugin you use to see the spectrum of the kick and bass together?

[@KrT___]

U can use SPAN in certain config. And it's free

[@xrabbz2010]

Spectrum2 from Schulz Audio does it well

[@darshanajjamada]

I think it's from the free Melda plugins bundle...

[@anujverma497]

Melda Mmultianalyzer 2

[@levondarratt787]

this is Melda

[@noserave3699]

Idk what just happened but I want to learn

[@outphase78]

For real, looks like some good advice but this was advanced. I have no idea wth is going on

[@ILove_808]

Nice

[@redcoleman]

you can Invert the Phase on S1

[@amrelsheikh5107]

so much respect for you ❤

[@vybavmusicals]

🔥 🔥

[@berrymusic_]

Nice 🔥🔥🔥

[@lucasluan12]

Brabo!

[@Sn0O0zY]

What about note change ? And when the bass note and the kick don’t align ?

[@djicebreaker80]

Cool tutorial, but I would use kick starter and side chain it

[@jimjones1505]

Hey Luca, what do you think of the Kii 3 digital speakers..I’m replacing ATC25s..

[@khanspiracy]

W content

[@memeswillneverdie]

The low shelf still has phase shift granted much less but it’s there and it’s correlated to the steepness of the Q, also why do the bass and kick have to be in phase, they aren’t the same instrument recorded at the same time, if you sum the two and flip the phase on one and see the result and guarantee there will be no frequency differences. Also even if it did effect the signal flipping it 180 degrees would only help if the signal was 180 out of phase, slight phase shift could end up getting more audible by flipping the phase.

[@Datacustic]

The hard shelf will do the same amount of phase shifting as the cut will do

[@mttlsa686]

What's the name of that super fine analyzer on top of the pro-c2?

[@nennd953]

i Really like to know that as well.

[@mttlsa686]

​@@nennd953 Differently from when I commented the first time, today I can see more of the top screen (maybe YT has enlarged the height of shorts video? I don't know) and I can tell you that I'm pretty sure it's a Melda plugin, just looking at the graphic interface. So it's Melda Analyzer or another Melda plugin with an analyzer but its by Melda, 100%.

[@baseerS2000]

What application is he using?

[@LonelyStarOfficial]

Do we have to sidechain?

[@SHOCMUSIC]

👏🏻

[@rawmaterial9679]

What’s the plugin that allows him to see the kick n bass bleeds?

[@spiritsoundzlab7636]

Asking same

[@fdgggfh24]

It's the MMultiAnalyser by Meldaproduction

[@TheVal1234567]

Whats the name of this analyser?

[@tobysandovaloficial]

Melda Mmultianalyzer 2

[@DanL-j6b]

Electronic kick and bass are easy.. try live drums

[@sebastianbaran5182]

what's that graph plugin you used when low cutting the kick?

[@N8oRMusic]

Check the phase AFTER all the processing!

[@Blah-i7n]

Which plugin is the analyzer?

[@Swiftopher755]

Melda production, m analyser or something like that

[@bci3937]

In which section i should see the polarity of the Phase, more in the beginning or where the low frequencies are?

[@truthseeker964]

The best phase correction plugin is PI from Sound Radix

[@Thefi5thdnb]

Id thought using such low cut shelf would cause some phase shifting, unless it was linear phase EQ

[@VAIBHAVSINGHMUSIC]

How to setup that visualization Melda one?

[@branchyapple]

So its not always by ear, finding the sweet spot with the eq is visual

[@athemalive]

Why plugin for phase? If your daw can make it?

[@Sey_Les]

I sometimes wonder if I need to just "track" the song out and go back and fix stuff up later. Kuz I'll spend countless time just fixing up these little things as I go along. And still, evidently, I don't do that well a job 😂

[@TheLonelyCabbage]

Yeah man i feel like most successful producers will tell you not to stress all these little things, at least not until you have something really solid then you can go in and start tweaking the small stuff

[@Sey_Les]

@@TheLonelyCabbage It's a training process. Tryna teach myself to get tf up an not indulge for 13 hours on my off day making music lol. I have learned to get the hook first.

[@gil6878]

100% don’t get deep into mixing while writing or tracking. Completely halts the creative flow. Write or track the parts, then do the arrangement and then mix

[@Sey_Les]

@@gil6878 indeed man thanks

[@PMMMARIO]

Whats the crossover point

[@kundankumar2980]

❤️🙏🏻😊

[@lexetunez]

How can know if my bass is in phase when i use a bass plugin rather than a bass sample.?

[@DennisLB1]

oscilloscope plugin

[@jlaycodzi8071]

Can you tell us what plug ins your using to see if the kick bass is in phase or not?

[@hereafterdj3800]

Its not plugin, its the daw studio one

[@calib3r403]

what plugin he was using on top of Prp Q ?

[@discobomber]

Name.of the spectrum analyser?

[@RufianBeatmaker]

m multianalyzer

[@discobomber]

@@RufianBeatmaker thank you!

[@JD-lh4kb]

how do you tell if its in or out of phase in ableton

[@jlaycodzi8071]

Ever figure it out I’m wondering the same?

[@JD-lh4kb]

Nah i got a new job, dont have much time anymore for it@@jlaycodzi8071

[@c17jing]

How do you tell they are out of phase from the visual information?

[@musicbyfaint]

Why is the pase important if you sidechain it anyways

[@NikeGunner77]

im wondering the same thing

[@alessioflex5231]

What anazlyzer is?

[@andrewcoop641]

Why do low shelf’s not cause a phase shift as opposed to a hpf?

[@loubot3332]

Did you ever find the answer to this? Great question

[@allinonetube6282]

how do you know its in phase or out of phase

[@AudioReplica2023]

Easy , Pick your kick and bass better. You want the kick to punch your chest or move your bowels ? You still can get a nice and sub mix if you plan ahead at the arrangement phase before you hit record. Thats producing.

[@j-station]

Can anyone list all the plugins? I recognize a few but some of them are hard to see and I don’t know them on sight. Starting with the very first one where he is comparing waves for phase.

[@hereafterdj3800]

Neutron 2 Pro q Pro c2 Mmultianalyser

[@felixftp9670]

Why no lowcut on the Kick?

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

180* phase shift, a low shelf only has a few degrees of phase shift. Resulting in a much punchier kick.

[@felixftp9670]

@@NoQualmsTheArtist Thank you very much for the clear answer!

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

@@felixftp9670 if you need to Highpass, just Highpass both the bass and kick together or at the same frequency then they both have the same phase shift which keeps them in phase. Or try a linear phase EQ. But this usually doesn't matter as the kick and bass waveforms are so wildly different it rarely makes a difference, just use your ears.

[@felixftp9670]

@@NoQualmsTheArtist Oh, I've done that in the past like bass and kick lowcut together. Thank you for the good tip!

[@apsigod]

is he putting neutron on the kick or the bass? i cant tell which one he is inverting the polarity of

[@hereafterdj3800]

Kick

[@D-Gowda09]

It sounds similar to Trinidad Cardona's 'Love me back'

[@florianionescu185]

sounds the same to me, a '80s rocker.

[@JonKunis]

But don’t u lose all the low end impact in your kick if u just shelf off all that low end ???

[@raven_hate]

What's that spectrum tool in the end does anyone know the name? I don't mean the pro q 3, the one on the top.

[@hereafterdj3800]

MMultianalyzer 2

[@deatheternal720]

I use ableton's utility plug in for stereo widening and phase inversion

[@foreverunknown369]

Videos like this make it hard to learn mixing

[@levondarratt787]

I think this is for the advanced user - Luca doesn't explain - he just does :)

[@bombaclitt]

His goal is actually making you confused and to doubt your own mixing/mastering knowledge, so you buy his bs courses

[@IngoGarza]

@@bombaclitt nothing about this is confusing. IF you feel confused after this video see it as a moment to learn about this so that you can watch it again and understand.

[@bombaclitt]

@@IngoGarza i’m not confused at all, I understand everything in this video, and I’m saying that the purpose of a lot of these videos is to further confuse beginners with a lot of useless techniques to sell courses.

[@JaX-cu7hb]

The kick is in FaZe

[@ashtref4524]

If kick and bass are out of phase then isn't that useful, as kick is being played the bass would already be down but it will be heard as the kick stops. That's like sidechain. What do you guys think?

[@A..720]

There is always a crossover of frequency which you need IMO for a natural sound, if it is out of phase you will lose energy and power in your low end

[@LyoshaTheZebra]

The kick modulates the frequency a lot, where is the point that I need to look at to see if it's in phase or not with the bass?

[@ramansvami4981]

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[@alexchase1856]

Unless you are using a linear phase EQ, any time you use an EQ you are phase shifting, that’s just how EQ works 😂

[@aphexish]

He actually goes over that in a few videos.

[@79keydet]

Different EQs works differently. For example Ableton Live non-linear EQ8 is transparent in oversampling mode and causes no audible phase issues. linear phase EQ is needed when you eq a sample recorded from 2+ mics. It is most often applicable on multimic drum recordings. If you are EQuing samples from downloaded sample packs most often you would have zero difference if using eq correctly - not carpet equing with a high Q values. Also linear phase eq causes pre-ringing artifacts...