The LIKELY Reason Why Your Kick & Bass STILL Don’t Compare To The Pros

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

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[@don_huzan]

You guys worked with nostalgix?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Yup! She’s cosmic fam. Been with us for years ♥️

[@pwoblem]

I've been producing music for 20 years and for the last 8 years even professionally. I actually did not know about that random phase button in serum, and this easy video pretty much explains so many hours of troubleshooting for me looking back, lol! Thank you!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You’re welcome!! Love hearing things like this ♥️👊 puts a smile on my face when I can help. Appreciate you watching and dropping me the line!

[@_ENOC]

Now I need to find this setting on other synths, any tips?

[@CCXYZ0123]

​@_ENOC You have to read the manuals. Most modern software synth (VSTi), like Serum, Vital, Spire, Dune, Avenger, Phaseplant, Falcon (even the old Sylenth) etc. have this option. There are rare exeptions, like Pigments from Arturia (which is a shame for such a synth). But take care and it's not shown in this video: When using an EQ for removing the low end, you will mostly shift the phase again and your hard work is ruined 😂

[@tubeo94]

@@CCXYZ0123thats why i prefer not low cutting kick and bass, just leave it at that, phase shifting can eat up headroom anyway.

[@Zerbasst]

IMO not looking into phase seems kinda unprofessional tbh but yeah, you never stop learning

[@ProducerPlayer2]

This is quite honestly the best kick & bass video tutorial ever. Zack you never disappoint with the most underrated mixing knowledge 🔥

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

❤️ thanks brother!! really appreciate it and hope it can be put to good use! for something so small and subtle, it makes a legitimate difference!

[@zambalam]

One of the best explanations I've seen on Kick/Bass phase correction! Linking note velocity to phase values is a stroke of genius mate

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

BIG thanks!! Appreciate you 👊♥️

[@philipmateo3816]

The amount of people that say they’ve got a “secret trick” or whatever is astounding but what’s more astounding is you actually deliver! Great tutorial!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thank youuuu 👊 happy you enjoyed this!

[@keriozaraki]

I really enjoyed that you also mentioned what happens when playing multiple notes. In my opinion, many tutorials only focus on a single case that‘s very static but don‘t go into further details regarding a more complete use case.

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

appreciate you!!! Really happy you enjoyed this one and hope it can help. This is one of topics that can be a bit harder to explain so means a lot to hear you say that 👊♥️

[@DodaGarcia]

I was pleasantly surprised with that as well!! Immediate credibility from me.

[@SK-dc8dj]

You can put the note source to phase to auto control the phase alignment... but takes time to adjust correct amount of source

[@ThatBigCactus]

This is the absolute best explanation on all of KZbin. This guy is an outstanding communicator, and the video editing is fantastic. If I was still pursuing a career this would be pretty a really good sell for any of their services

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

I appreciate you!! ❤️ 👊 means a lot!

[@jamesb655]

Finally someone who can explain things CLEARLY and easy to understand ! The quality of your videos are extremely well done as well. Subscribed ! This video should have 200k views...

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

THANK YOU!! really appreciate you saying that 👊❤️ means a lot

[@khaledabdrabo]

no one on youtube explained it the right way as you did, thanks for this trick

[@ableenk]

phase automatization for different notes is mind-blowing

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

right!!?!? its not always needed/necessary but in those specific instances where kick and bass just aren't gel'ing...it can be one of the potential solutions!

[@WackyJackyTracky]

@@TheCosmicAcademy If you use (analog) outboard synths you never have an exact phase 😄 Also good luck with this method when you have glides 😉 Aren’t there Plugins that handle phase issues automatically, mainly made for multi-microphoning drum-sets but maybe also useable for these bd/bass issues

[@jerometournier5467]

@@WackyJackyTracky Yeah this method is overkill for me,though yes,it will sound louder and punchier. My focus is on sound-design,composition and arrangement rather than these micro adlustments. Also I can understand the point about phase reset on percussive elements for consistency but not that much on synth sounds because phase random makes them sounding less repetitive and boring.

[@NopeyNopesworthyIII]

Your videos are honestly incredible. I've only watched a few but the way that you teach about technical concepts, then give an example of how to apply them, is miles ahead of any other tutorial that I have come across. Absolute game-changers!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Really appreciate you saying that!! Means a lot! 👊♥️

[@sesokaiba]

This was a HUGE tip. Never tried this before but already see/hear a difference in my mixes. Thanks guys.

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Happy it helps!! That’s awesome to hear 👊♥️

[@sound-engineer]

I don't know how to thank you enough. Even though I'm an advanced producer, your video already taught me a very important trick. I subscribed the channel. You are a very good educator who can tell a very important trick under 10 min unlike most of educators who intentionally prolong contents to pretend to be like "I tell a lot of things"

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thank youuuu 👊♥️ I really appreciate you saying that!! I’m always happy to hear that the tips are useful/helpful!!

[@RDSYproductions]

So after my last message I decided to put this to the test.. & WOW ! this has defiantly made a big difference to my kick and bass mix, the low-end just stays where its should with now power drop outs in all my years in production this is what I was missing, the final jigsaw puzzle to my over all mixing. Thank you Cosmic Academy ✌😎

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Happy the final touch was able to help!! ♥️👊

[@RDSYproductions]

@TheCosmicAcademy it definitely made a massive difference, especially when you move the phase using automation to tune up with your kick drums. You can really hear the difference when you do this in real time.

[@s_ms865]

All the love guys, I don't actually use serum so I wished I learn about this in a different way, but still learned a lot from this so thank u so much !!

[@MarkKunoff]

What if I don’t use Serum? This video would have been more helpful if you could apply this concept on many synths. And what about samples?

[@harmonicresonanceproject]

This would not apply to samples as they are not generated on the fly in this manner. Always good to keep an ear out for phase issues in a mix and invert phase to just check sometimes (or, in Hardstyle, to see if a kick pops more if u reverse phase, eg) , but this is all perhaps much more of a problem using things like Serum to generate kicks in the first place.

[@aoproductions372]

Thank you

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

of courseee!! give it a try and I hope it can help your low end!! ❤👊

[@TONELOWOFFICIAL]

This channel has been my biggest reference for improving my mixes! I can't believe you guys don't have a patreon yet!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Hahaha thanks! We have a school for 10+ years with 800+ alum!! No need for a patreon!! 😅

[@reliction]

very professional editing and easy to understand explanations, underrated!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

thank you!! i really appreciate you saying that ❤️👊

[@TAYAMusic-vo6td]

Great video 🙌 I’m constantly telling my mentees to use their discernment when looking for ‘quick fix’ solutions in their productions, on KZbin in particular. Theres nothing worse than learning the incorrect way to do things! But this guy, is ONTO IT! Hats off to you sir 🎉 🙏

[@MORIAH_B]

thank you very much for the tutorial. It's really important to simplify the information, not just list which plugins to use. We would love to see more explanatory videos like this

[@Electronicjar]

This literally topped it for me. Thank you so much. I also use diva and would like to know does this work for diva as well and if so how ? Thanks 🙏🏻

[@devalah]

did you eventually figure that out? : )

[@IntoTheWeeds71]

This is the first video of yours I've watched, but I love this format - short video, clear explanations, real-time demonstrations - subbed!

[@a.d.h.s.]

that one's gold! Thanks

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You’re welcome! 👊♥️

[@Sachifu]

Funny thing is, on my desktop speakers, I couldn't hear the difference, but then I put on my in-ear monitors and could hear the difference. On the one hand: This is thought provoking on a lot of levels. Although, I feel like there are times I like how the phase cancellation sounds. It might give the kick a slight accent that compliments things. On the other hand: There are definitely times I don't want it, and it exists, and now knowing this is another tool to the arsenal of things to try is useful. But it still makes it clear this can be somewhat subtle and then you have to know the right context within which those knobs make a difference. I tried playing with them in a different context, didn't hear a difference, so I thought I'll have to figure it out later.

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Totally know what you mean!!! And in this case with low end, it’s obviously going to be specifically for the bigger systems like club, or car, where those differences add up!! ♥️👊

[@Sachifu]

@@TheCosmicAcademy Oh yeah, that's right, clubs are loud. Sometimes I take my earplugs for granted. (The irony / humor in this statement being I frequently find myself within the 1st five rows at festivals because the bass needs to vibrate my every fiber)

[@rafaelnouveau]

Outstanding masterclass in under 7 minutes! THANK YOU!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

thank you rafael!! i really appreciate you dropping the message. its great to hear that these vids are helpful!

[@simonnguyen692]

i didn’t know vin diesel was a producer

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

That’s incorrect…you didn’t know Zack was in fast and furious!!

[@arcadesoundsofficial]

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[@johnymst]

holy shit 2 years of mystery for me has been resolved in this video. Subscribed and will be back for more!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

♥️👊 happy it helps! Happy to have you part of the fam here

[@LETTMusic]

Great tutorial. Really important to point out at the end that the relation of the kick to the bass changes when your bass changes notes but the kick holds the same pitch. I guess another thing you could try is shifting the kick's fine pitch slightly for different bass notes, but either way you approach it, it may need some automation or fine tuning to match kicks with changing basslines if you want to get to that level of polish. There's a recent plugin this past year called Mastering the Mix FUSER which has a nice built-in feature that handles smart EQ dynamic ducking and auto-phase optimization. It analyzes something like a kick vs. bass playing over like 10-15 seconds and it will auto-rotate the phase to the optimal placement that gives you the strongest correlation of the two audio signals at once. It's convenient considering any additional mixing you do in a track, such as EQ, distortion, compression, etc. all makes slight additional waveform changes, which may undo some of the work you do further up in the signal chain, like changing the initial phase knob all the way back in Serum. You can instead just put FUSER at the end of the bass FX chain, and re-run the phase auto-correction.

[@infinitystratos5292]

Your videos are really gems, short but still full of helpful informations. Thank you for your effort in creating these videos for us and sharing your music production experience 😃

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You’re very welcome!! Appreciate you leaving this message ♥️👊 means a lot!

[@niccko]

Thank you!!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You're welcome!👊♥️

[@FourthCo]

This is absolute top of the line mixing tips hard to get elsewhere. Thank you!!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thanks dude!! 👊♥️ always appreciated!!

[@derwiederentfachtermannith3863]

Amazing content bro !!!

[@patrykszabla7208]

Great vid, no filler doesn't waste any time. Thanks!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You’re welcome Patryk! Appreciate you dropping me the comment too! 👊♥️

[@loganschockelt]

That hack about connecting to velocity 😂 Simple yet fire!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Hahahaha happy you enjoyed it! 👊♥️

[@OLEKSAJEDIX]

I wish there were more music production videos like this one. It's crucial to rely on your ears, close eyes when changing sliders/knobs values. Never rely much only on spectrums/oscilloscopes/other graphical displays, those are just great supplements for your ears! if it sounds good = good if it sounds good + you are aware of such slight details on the oscilloscope + you have more control over your sound = PERFECT

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Exactlyyyyyyyyy!!! ♥️👊

[@mynameisfarbod]

Absolute gold

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

thanks farbod!! ❤️ I'm starting to get nit picky with the tips here haha but this one actually makes a HUGE difference as soon as you apply it! Give it a shot and lmk if you have any questions 👊

[@mynameisfarbod]

It's this level of attention to detail that separates the truly professional sound@@TheCosmicAcademy

[@dbdbdb12345]

The best kick & bass video tutorial ever ! thank you !

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thank youuu!! 👊♥️

[@RDSYproductions]

Big Z did a similar topic on this and was mind blowing , But you my friend have just completed the final touches on how to move the phase with the midi notes, Spot on this fab video ✌😎 this will be added to reminder list.

[@joshmarn]

Thanks bro

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

you're very welcome! ❤️👊

[@arziva1615]

how does this works when you work with 808 oneshots and not a vst ? :)

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Check out MFreeformPhase for a free option!

[@theonejet]

Dropped a like 👍🏾 thanks for making phase alignment easy to understand

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Glad it helped! ♥️👊

[@abbielyman6468]

Amazing!! Love the Moose content, and your videos are the best. Thanks Zack!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Hahahaha thank you!! ♥️ and that’s from moose and I 😂

[@dullastonishment]

Really enjoy these videos. Short, sharp and very neatly produced.

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

I really appreciate that!! ♥️👊 was nervous about this one because it can be tricky to explain phase…wasn’t sure if this was gonna click!! So means the world, thanks

[@schqrr]

super helpful vid thanks

[@Lobonostillalive]

love this, but how can you do this with other plugins then serum

[@derwiederentfachtermannith3863]

Bro !!! That’s sick man !!! Well done ! Man you can teach and communicate and it’s useful !!!

[@ryanbent9368]

This was great, Zack!!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thanks brotha!! 👊 give it a shot…it seems subtle (and it kind of is) but the difference it can make is always worth it!!

[@JamesEnglish-gl7ls]

Thanks for the clear and concise info man!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Glad it was helpful! Appreciate you watching!! ❤️👊

[@BorisBeing]

Great vid but how would one be able to check the phase using a synth other than serum?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You can scroll through the comments!! I’ve answers this a bunch of times. Third party plugins!! 👊♥️

[@BorisBeing]

thanks dude @@TheCosmicAcademy

[@DJWISS83]

Great tutorial! I mainly use Sylenth1 for the Sub bass and Mid Bass will this technique works the same in Sylenth1?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thanks glad it was helpful!! Yeah in sylenth you can then retrig on to create consistency between each note. Then you can use the phase knob in the oscillator to adjust!

[@gmorb666]

They both sound fine to me 🤷‍♂️

[@OneDarkMartian]

This is a great tip, thanks, but what about other synths and audio etc. How do you do this same thing? I’d be interested in seeing that for sure.

[@dorykahale]

I can't see the difference in the purple and yellow waveforms. Or I don't know what I'm looking for. (1:37)

[@ukarzpierug780]

In serum it’s easier. What about the sample that we use for the subbass? How to emulate the randomize mode and make sure there’s no phase issues?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Samples (if they are a one shot) are always the same! You can also use other techniques to adjust the phase for audio…you can nudge the file a few milliseconds and that will adjust the phase relationship. You can also try flipping phase using your DAWs utility plugin. You can also use phase plugins (ssl, voxengo pha, etc)

[@Openeyesopenmind777]

What if a DJ Mix One Track in the other and they both „cancle“ each other, because the one Kicks Phase goes up and then down and the other one goes down and then up. I‘m asking, because Sara Landry showed in a Tutorial, that the Kicks Phase goes First up (over Zero) then down. Thanks

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

That happens in every dj mix if you listen carefully! Hahaha inevitable. Don’t worry bout it 😅

[@sjcflawless]

Question 🙋‍♂️! Now, I found this very intriguing and helpful. However, I noticed that the kick used had a sub level with it. The technique described, does it apply to the kicks with sub already in it, or is it just kick only? I ask this because I usually separate the kick notes from sub and mix those separately. I find it better for mastering as well. Don’t get me wrong though, what you described basically made my life a lot easier. I just wanted to know because I was confused. Edit for spelling btw

[@thanos_k]

Great tip! Indeed something I haven't seen anywhere else 🔥🔥🔥

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

♥️♥️ thanks! Hope it can be put to good use!! 👊

[@phantom_him]

Seriously great videos on kick/sub phase. Appreciate it. Subbed.

[@shlomo_bachar_Music]

Hi Thank you Very much about this video you realy help me a lot but I have to ask if i use other vst synth like arturia stuff or diva or any other synth how i fix the phase and consistency of my bass layers? and again thank you for all of your videos it is realy help me a lot

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You’re welcome!! I think I’ve answered this several times already in the comments if you wanna scroll, but there are third party plugins that can adjust phase!!

[@boseyboi]

How do you fix starting point of phase when a 808 sample isn’t consistent!?!

[@shani_beats]

I am amazed to see that not a single person asked this question, what if we are using a sample for bass? I understand in that case there wouldn't be phase randomization but what about automating the phase? is there any plugins that does the magic or am missing I something?

[@wolfdisko9223]

Great video!! I have also heard that high pass filters change the phase and that a linear phase eq is a way to avoid phase issues… so now I use linear phase eq on kicks and basses. Is this correct?

[@rhysmann7774]

How would I do this with a classic jungle drum loop?? Can't change the phase of a loop?

[@PMMMARIO]

I love this but how to apply if the plugin isnot serum but trillian for example

[@oliverbroek134]

even when I turn down the rand all the way. when I play the sub solo in a scope it shows it moving slightly every beat, how do I fix this

[@ZackEdwardMusic]

As always, hope this one helps!!! ❤

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

👆👆

[@massimogurinidj7318]

Ok bute what if you record analog synths or if you use soft synths where you cant adjust the phase and stuff?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

you can always record to audio and you can try a few things to make the relationship better. You can nudge the sample a few milliseconds on the timeline/grid, you can flip the phase using a utility plugin in your DAW, or you can use a phase plugin, like Voxengo PHA-979, SSL has a phase plugin as well. As mentioned in the video, you dont have to be "perfect" here, just a little bit of phase correction goes a long way! These can do the trick ❤️👊

[@Trickle2007]

thought about if it'd possible to link phase to key, so that the phase changes dependent on the played note...?

[@Schubidu2]

How would you fix this with audio tracks? Groovy Greetz!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Check out MFreeformPhase for a free plugin option! 👊♥️

[@zanderryz]

Yessss this was excellent! Never seen a video on this topic

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

♥️♥️ thanks and hope it can be put to good use!! It’s a very nitpicky detail but it really does make a difference!

[@MichaelHull-lc8el]

Good video, but what if the bass notes change ?

[@GuruxMusic4eva]

Excellent, thanks for sharing ❤

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

You’re welcome!! Appreciate you watching and dropping the message!! 👊♥️

[@larrydekat030]

nice but what if your bass isnt made in massive, how to adjust phasing then?

[@gre5711]

quick question how can i do if im using a bass audio clip ?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Check out MFreeformPhase for a free option!

[@jonathanthedeceptikon]

This is a fantastic video. Thank you! Also - one of my life goals is to meet Moose in person and tell him what a good boi he is.

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Hahahahhaa moose is gonna be headlining the dog stage at ultra next year. Gotta be there! 😂👊

[@anthonymazeppa]

really good tutorial, thank you

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

really happy it helps!! appreciate you watching and leaving the message! ❤👊

[@alinbeats]

yea man really good job, i'll take that advice

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

👊♥️

[@tracktaylor2783]

Well im convinced! New sub here..great stuff..

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thanks and happy to have you part of the fam!! 👊♥️

[@chiahhuff2634]

Could you also dial it in and them route the note mod to phase in order to have it adjust incrementally with each note and avoid automation all together?

[@EricvanRichthoven]

Thank you very much for the good explanation and the good video 🙌👍💪

[@twintelemusic]

your videos are giving vin diesel but if vin diesel was headlining edc and I'm here for it. side note: I can't tell you how many instructional videos i exit out of because the vibes are off and or the guys are cringe and boring. Learning music production can be daunting at times and its rare to find someone who can make it enjoyable. Keep em comin!!!!!! also, love your pup!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

I used to get the vin diesel thing every single day of my life 😂 as I’ve aged though I’ve drifted away from my fast and furious friend…hadn’t gotten that comp in a while hahaha. Happy the vids can help and moose says thank you too! 🐕

[@2crimesmusic]

Amazing video ! What if I use nexus how do I solve that problem ?

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Not sure if nexus has a phase knob. Otherwise you could always use a phase rotation plugin outside of nexus.

[@2crimesmusic]

@@TheCosmicAcademy PERFECT THANKS !

[@MrFynutzU]

hey thanks for the tutorial, but how would you go about the same thing if you are you using bass samples and not using vst so you can adjust phase knobs? do you have any video on that that I missed, please let us know 🌋

[@localeyemusic187]

Will this be nessaserry to do if i use Kick & Bass Samples from a proffesional artists sample Pack?🤷🏽‍♂️🙏🏽 And thanks for the awesome helpfull videoes you make!🙏🏽💪🏽💯

[@ShannonCoen]

Eye opening. Thank you!

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Happy it helps!!! always appreciate you watching 👊♥️

[@tomweatherill9301]

Can you change the phase for example on diva as never seen that option cheers

[@roccsterx]

Thanks for this video, but how do you get a sine waves phase to not move if you have a long sub note playing? Setting the phase to 0 does not help?

[@ItsRedfern]

amazing!!! objective and clear!

[@ganzler9376]

How do i do this if i don’t have Serum?

[@WackyJackyTracky]

If you use (analog) outboard synths you never have an exact phase 😄 Also good luck with this method when you have glides 😉 Aren’t there Plugins that handle phase issues automatically, mainly made for multi-microphoning drum-sets but maybe also useable for these bd/bass issues

[@cyrrustvirus]

my TR-909 and TB-303 have just joined the chat 😄

[@haunted1994]

What if files are audio?

[@angreez2738]

And how would you suggest modifying the phase of a sample bass? (WAV file)

[@howard555]

how could i go about changing the phase of a sample? just invert polarity and hope for the best? 😂

[@johnwitcher7039]

do all pros doing this like this or another way but same point ?

[@yassn7094]

I just discovered yout channel and after a random video I just knew that you put quality contents, so I subscribed immediately. Keep up the good work, you are helping so many producers that begins or that have more experience also. This tool looks amazing, I downloaded your link but I have only files components vst and vst 3 but not a dmg. can you help us with that. Thank you man

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thank you!! Really appreciate the kind words and makes us happy to know these vids can help ♥️👊. To install, you just have to drop those files into the respective folders. they are located in HD>library>audio>plugins>component/VST/vst3

[@yassn7094]

Amazing thank you :)

[@kairozmusic]

I didn’t had any idea about this but damn this is eye opening for me. Thanks for sharing this. 🙏🏽

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Happy it can help!!! It’s a rather small, and nit picky topic but it really does make a difference when you’re making music for clubs/festivals/any bigger system ♥️👊

[@neonblack211]

I saw this exact same concept for a youtube video except they said to make the waveform look like a buttplug which was interesting

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

😂 I will forever remember it now

[@DomBaconMusic]

Thanks for a great explainer video, very informative. Also, i would LOVE to join your academy. I have applied! Thanks again

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

you're very welcome! appreciate you saying that 👊❤️ happy to hear you filled one out!! keep an eye out as we go through them pretty regularly and will be reaching out

[@matthewheinz4453]

Is fuser able to be used with ableton? I downloaded then realized it is an aax plug in

[@keflat23]

BIG UP!! looking forward for new content :)

[@TheCosmicAcademy]

Thank you!!! really appreciate you watching and got plenty more comin (like the one I just posted today hahahaha)