How To Optimize An Open World RPG - Wrought Flesh Devlog 9

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[@Fevir]

Methods of optimization always make interesting devlogs

[@markellii3093]

so that's why yanderedev's devlogs suck

[@themalle132]

Oh wow cool seeing you here! I loved your videos and personality, it's sad that you quit but I don't hold it against you. Good luck with whatever you're doing now and I hope you enjoy it! :o)

[@Mothbean]

First off, I just want to say that the tongue-fed shotgun is the coolest thing. I love the idea of a weapon that seems totally normal but is hiding grotesque biology on the inside. The new biome and enemies also look great and the Terraworm's new arena feels a lot more dynamic than the old one. However, I do think the desert skybox looks a bit... off? I don't really know how to put it, but the way it cuts off or blurs at certain angles (like at 1:11 or 4:10 for example) is really jarring. I also feel the sky could use a bit more blue but that's more of a nitpick. Overall, this game looks fucking great so far and I'm really looking forward to when you complete it. Its's easily got one of the most unique game worlds I've seen in a while. Also, I had literally just finished watching the rest of this series when you uploaded this, which I think is kind of funny.

[@zoesidener7724]

I definitely agree with all of your points on this, the world is just really interesting IMO

[@Voxxitronic]

The problem I see with the desert skybox is that it doesn't take the fog color of the desert into effect at all - you have skybox dunes shaded almost completely black against a sandy-colored skyline. If you washed out the dunes in the skybox to better match the fog color, it would sell the effect much better. Also, I think you're doing an absolutely AMAZING job with this game!! I love every devlog you upload and I can't wait to see what you do next!!

[@barabara9855]

The most interesting devlog I've ever watched

[@UnderfundedScientist]

The cat chasing the laser is such a hilarious and amazing idea that you executed so well

[@ynrikotowers4374]

It really has improved from the previous versions and the new enemies and weapons are also awesome. The laser idea was hilarious and the npcs make sense. Good job overall and I wish you keep your enthusiam as always. Maybe you should try creating a pet from different parts like a mule to carry ammo and parts. For example a hexaped that uses arms of the soldiers and carries your weapons and sometimes shoot. I hope it made sense. Anyway nice short and precise video.

[@Fragler01]

Just a side note for the cat-ish enemy which is driven by the laser. It was not obvious for me until you explained it in the video. And an idea ticked in my mind. There are several games that has a collection of enemies, and a short description of each of them. Maybe you could do something similar?

[@stealthisaccount433]

@@Fragler01 like a fleshcyclopedia?

[@Fragler01]

@@stealthisaccount433 nice name for it 😅

[@stealthisaccount433]

@@Fragler01 thanks lol

[@hanseldsilva2393]

Yea like a Pokedex or a more recent example, the computer in ultrakill

[@benwatford3068]

Just want to let you know that you’re one of only three people I support on Patreon, because you’re genuinely one of the most creative people I know on this platform.

[@nuderedfinger]

Honestly yeah, very creative mind here

[@danktoast8004]

Holy shit, the cat boss fight is genius. That’s a fantastic spin on a normal boss. I hope every boss fight has some “gimmick” to freshen up gameplay every now and then. I’m loving this game and I can’t wait for it to come out.

[@furdieur]

something about this release in this devlog suddenly made this game go from zero to a hundred for me. this looks absolutely fantastic-- i have never seen anything like this. been watching everything you make/release for a while now but this game i truly cannot wait for. phenomenal

[@whinebite]

When i saw the sliding on the desert i could only imagine using a corpse as a snowboard, kind of like how alex mercer on prototype surfs with bodies, game looks insane so far im eagerly awaiting for a new devlog each time one drops

[@Lonewolf360gaming]

Let's call it corpse sledding

[@lancenorthy9900]

@@Lonewolf360gaming THIS!

[@deepwebwhirlpool]

tony hawks pro corpse riding

[@Vlad79X]

quite possibly the most interesting project I've seen a devlog on

[@GoodmansGhost]

I loved the insight into all the optimizations you make. Optimization is often one of the biggest hurdles for indie games.

[@Hatsworthful]

Seeing the evolution of this game has been spetacular so far, i'm quite excited to see the next developments! And as someone who is studying software development and wants to get into game development (probably more as a hobby than a full on career), all the technical details are a really cool learning experience aswell. I really hope to play the complete version of wrought flesh one day.

[@mehtt5242]

Man I am starting to get hyped for the release. It would be cool to see some reward for playing on harder difficulties. Like an acheivment or secret "ending" for playing start to finish on the hardest without changing. Keep it up dude, look forward to these each month.

[@Duartexis]

I don't know what impresses me more Miz, if it's your deving skill or your imagination. I'm always looking forward to whatever it is your coming up with next. Do you think that maybe, it would be cool to be able to replace some other parts of your body like limbs or eyes, in order to get new abilities like super jump (frog legs) and night vision (owl eyes), idk, later in the game. Gills for an underwater themed level, wings for badassery and what not. Think about it. See you in the next one, cheers!

[@Zap-Plays]

I'm honestly just blown away at what you've accomplished so far. So many cool ideas.

[@IainDuthie]

Love when you see a Dev that knows exactly what they are doing or is good at hiding the pain.

[@Codeer]

Really interesting to learn about your performance optimizations. Very cool devlog as always, I really enjoy the gameplay edits you put at the start!

[@ObviousDev]

Tongue Fed Shotgun - LETS GO! Loved the devlog, as always. Keep it up!

[@Overposting]

I bought your FPS course recently and I'm loving it so far!

[@theDemong0d]

This is shaping up so nicely, I don't usually play this kind of game but I am 100% buying this when it comes out. Weird choice of intro music though, I would associate this game with something super weird and psychedelic like Skáphe, not autotune ;)

[@strawberrypancake3253]

Such a fascinating game, best of luck!

[@PandemoniumGameDev]

Love seeing you work on this, the theme is completely outlandish and the gameplay and features are very original. Hope this game blows up!

[@GoblinDepartment]

Hell yes, great work. I follow a lot of in-progress games on KZbin and Wrought Flesh is probably the one I'm most excited about.

[@xanderabbey8529]

This game is looking sicker by the day. I reallly, really, really hope this game takes off! Visually-similar games like Cruelty Squad and Peripeteia seem to be doing well, so I hope yours does well, too!

[@GamesBySaul]

Great work, I love the enhancements you can use, and I must say the optimisation talk is super interesting, usually, I can't wrap my head around it...and I still can't but with your explanation I could more than I usually do :)

[@beavismount]

I am so looking forward to playing this! So many unique ideas, I can't wait to see what you make next. You have a ton of other cool stuff on the channel, but random thoughts about Wrought Flesh is what keeps me looking back here.

[@MrGallant90]

you're a big inspiration behind me trying to make game design a thing for myself and follow through on some dreams of my own, man. i really appreciate these videos and your unity tuts 👍 wrought flesh looks like it's going to be a banger.

[@codysuchomski6498]

Every few months I'll see a game dev channel and be reminded of your channel. I'll head over and binge every video to catch up, it's a real treat.

[@squee-z6442]

I really like that your videos are less monotone, it makes your videos a lot more engaging. I've always liked your content, but this just makes it even better!

[@rsavage-r2v]

From the title, I assumed this was about updating a large persistent world with many moving parts, but these are optimizations applicable to any action game. Much appreciated.

[@billynugget7102]

2 pieces of genuine advice: - the great thing about the desert scene is that enemies stick out from the environment but in this environment they fit in a lot. Maybe a brighter colour for the enemies so the hard combat is justified. - the best optimisation you will get for the enemies is going with a DOD design. To sum it up, when you go to update an enemies position, you pull in all of the object/classes data with it into the cache. And if your classes are in the vicinity of 500bytes you are gonna experience some crazy cache misses. It would be worth specifically separating all the data relating to pathfinding into its own array as you only pull in relevant data and don’t run into costly cache misses.

[@tomwwytom1372]

Damn, the opening is so good it gives goosebumps. Beautiful Catastrophe fits perfectly.

[@user-qh5mz6ik6u]

Super cool, game is coming along so far. When I saw the oasis and new weapons, I was so exited to hear you explain everything new. Optimization is pretty cool from a customer standpoint too, nice to know the dev is actively keeping player experience in mind.

[@Ironlionm4n]

Wow this is very inspiring. I don't even use Godot and bought your course just to support. Thank you for putting out this content.

[@chocolatedoughnut_]

I’ve only found out about this on my recommendations on here…I love this idea and this game looks like it’ll be so fun when it’s out!!! Wish you good luck on your endeavors 👍

[@Bonerfiesta]

Bandit camps could vary depending upon the biome. Rickety lean-tos in deserts, hammock tents in the woods, stilted huts in the swamps, etc, with maybe a kytoon for electricity used by more-successful gangs, making them more visible and apparent that they're not to be trifled with. I really like the cat-chasing-a-laser boss fight, that's quite creative!

[@osyrix5127]

Listening to the optimization sections of this video make me feel like im listening to a podcast on how Nasa calculations are being made. Way to blow my mind. Absolutely amazing how these things can be done.

[@PixelbugStudio]

The art style in this game is awesome. And also those optimization techniques you use makes this video intersting.

[@Skeffles]

It's nice to see some green to juxtapose the desert you've shown previously. Cool to hear about the optimisations too!

[@wafa6377]

ive been waiting for a devlog forever! excited!

[@bgrbgrmeisterbgr]

I cannot wait for the full release of this game! One thing I think can be neat is if the Killfuck needles you pick up are "stored" by simply being stabbed into your arm or something. That can also give a neat visual indicator on how many you have left.

[@MiLK-oj3cj]

love your creativity this game is looking to shape up really good

[@VBG33k]

This game is by far the most curiously insipring development game thing i have ever seen, subbed and probabbly will binge watch all the other devlogs! Great work really, i feel like this game will be a strong success.

[@sodagames4980]

Great devlog! I really like the creativity of Wrought Flesh, the meat armor looks really cool and the new body modifications sound fun to play! I can't wait for more body modifications

[@CoreUnderscore]

Your videos are really fucking great. I really feel like I'm learning stuff about game development, it's exciting, fun, concise and straightforward. Thanks for making these.

[@sherges44]

Amazing devlog as always miz, i feel though that you may need more telegraphing. The shots seem hard to time, yet ive never played so dont take my advice to heart please. Keep doing what youre doing! ❤️

[@anbagames]

8:20 Very clever, good idea. In your videos I always learn something about optimization

[@GrindedGears]

The electricity enemy reminds me of the shambler from quake. Really love it so far!

[@xelnagazchild]

the way you can customize finger weapon with organs kinda reminds me the way you could customize spells in Magicka. i really like those kind of organic ways of customizing gameplay that's available at your fingertips, it's like gameplay sandbox and does make you feel more involved in the gameworld as a player

[@KamranWali]

Awesome video! The game is looking really good. Really like the feature of just grabbing organs and putting it inside oneself. Also your optimization and performance analysis are on point. Really like when other devs talk about what's under the hood and what has been done to optimize it. Keep it up! :)

[@camerondavis5702]

holy shit, i’ve been watching these logs for a while and always thought it looked great but, damn this is looking fucking NICE

[@hjelsethak]

I love, love, love how you can slide around. I'm all for games that give the player freedom of movement. What about adding a mechanic that lets you propel yourself a bit? Not quite like rocket-jumping or jetpacking; How about violent vomiting which you can aim to go in any direction or use an attack? Or maybe a hidden third long arm that folds on your back which you can use to jump incredibly high? Maybe make it a reward for killing a certain kind of long-legged enemy, but that slowly decays overtime? That way you can add some verticality and dynamism to your levels.

[@kahvikone]

That shotgun just mlemming the shells is so satisfying and unique.

[@MG-bw9hs]

the cat laser idea is *chefs kiss

[@Keyshooter]

this game is looking cooler and cooler, this feels encouraging too, like, telling other people "hey, do game dev, is pretty awesome"

[@bellrick2803]

You have enemies with guns and you added new enemies with guns and projectiles, and you gave new guns to the player. The only thing really missing is a common enemy that will melee you with like a sword or blunt object, would be cool. Also the new forest map is looking like a reskin of the desert, it is to open. A good thing to add would maybe be claimable smaller trees scattered along. They can give you cover from enemy fier but if you jump on the branches you will be able to sneek pas them or treverse the environment a lot cooler or faster like in naruto. Great job as always, keep it up ;)

[@garyadamos]

was thinking that too, bringing melee into it the game would be awesome

[@bean5350]

here is that wrought of flesh devlog, waiting a while for this one, glad its here

[@eeaahh]

>worm-fed shotgun this game is sick

[@The404Studios]

Seen your tiktok, good stuff my dude

[@EvilVitJoker]

Thanks for the AI Fundamentals course. Just purchased. Will watch on weekends. The AI is the main thing, that holds the progress of my projects. Other than procrastination ;-)

[@Fyshtako]

Man this is really shaping up, a lot of progress per devlog unlike a lot of youtubers too

[@e_buffturtle]

Amazing work, I really think you should add more organ slots maybe in stuff in like the arms or legs and you would remove the muscles or something like that

[@Fopull]

I love the art style sm

[@willheur]

That moment when you realize you've been watching this games' development for months and not filing money into this man's Patreon, brb gonna fix that

[@banish1265]

That shotgun reload animation is goated

[@jwr26games]

I find the devlogs very interesting - I like your straightforward approach to things. This is by far one of the best projects that push Godot in terms of 3D and there really needs to be more of these in the future to help Godot progress. Quick question: what is your frame rate in the game clips we see that aren't for benchmarking purposes?

[@usta028]

I like the concept and art style/direction of this game

[@jamdonut]

Looking awesome, really appreciate the video and ideas for optimization. Never knew time slicing had a name either, been doing it for years.

[@cammybhoy6148]

I'm so looking forward to playing this game

[@Gome.o]

You’re creativity is breath taking my guy

[@poopandawa9593]

I love Wrought Flesh, I’d love to see another open world rpg done in this style, looks and feels great imo

[@tdif3197]

The pre-calcuated environemtn bullet raycast thing is a great idea! Definitely adding that to my roster. I'm curious about the bounding box checks though, and would be interested in the results of performance tests. I'm not sure how physics are handled in Godot, but in Unity I believe the physics world is automatically broken down into octrees anyway before doing more detailed checks on individual colliders, so in effect the same thing as the bounding box technique.

[@fylelastname4912]

The spinecat boss is so inventive! I love the laser idea!!!

[@eboatwright_]

I didn't know you where still working on this game. Super cool! :D

[@avocadopeel7536]

Potential performance boost: not sure what pathfinding algorithm you're using, but if you're not already, look into something like breadth first search that finds many paths to 1 end point, and share it with all the enemies that path find to the player, reduces to 1 search that only needs to gets called when the player moves.

[@PennDraken]

Loving the progress so far! I'm not sure if it's because I'm slightly colorblind, but for me it looks like it's hard to tell when you hit/ miss enemies. I see there is some blood, but it's hard to see with the quick movent and strong color scheme. I would love if enemies maybe blinked white/ red when you hit them, or there was greater visual feedback when you damage them. At 2:45 for instance I would love a bit more visual feedback in regards to bullets landing on the target. Would love to hear your thoughts!

[@RTWrename]

Thanks for sharing those optimization ideas, and a big wow for your devlog, you are going great, I can assume yo say that I Will buy your game when it gets out, you deserve every bit of suport, you are great man, really inspiring thanks!

[@bley_fb]

Hey, just stumpled upon this game and I wanted to say that I am soo damn excited to play this. I hope that there may be a small hut with chests so you can store some organs in there for future modifications. HOping to play this game for a longer time than it takes me to beat it. im stoked.

[@jipjip3000]

Im really excited for this project, great work! I think maybes you should make the shotgun feel a bit more impactful, you nailed the design but when your shooting it i think it lacks the proper feedback, maybes its because i havn't heard its gunshot sound but you should be seeing the gun kick higher with the recoil and maybes have a larger muzzle flash since its firing multiple projectiles.

[@chickenhunter6299]

That Lazer spike boss is such a great idea

[@olon1993]

This is coming along so nicely! Can't wait to see it released!

[@ThomasSchannel]

I like the new bandit look , I feel like you could use the trees for more like have an enemy be on the trees going up and down/around or maybe some platforming idk. It's just that in the desert you had a wide open area that facilitated certain gameplay and now you're in a "crowded" area.

[@zeelectron3022]

I love the creativity

[@FalcFalcFalcFalc]

I love the grossness you've achieved with the UI, reminds me of a less LSD'd Cruelty Squad

[@sprksmr7208]

Really looking forward to buying this game once it comes out.

[@wilmatimogtimog9736]

Plot twist(well not really) :the bullets that the pumpshotty shoots is actually teeth(also maybe this can be a little detail that you can only see if you look at it hard enough)

[@banditodog]

The game looks amazing, and your progress is inspiring. Keep up the great work!

[@tiacool7978]

I overwhelmingly disagree with your second to last video. But you are probably the best thing that could ever happen to Godot, and the Godot community. Your devlogs are amazing and inspiring, and I don't think I've seen a boss done quite like that cat. The fact that it's not attacking you intentionally is really nice. This is one of the few Godot games I eagerly wait to see completed.

[@frogrammer7954]

honestly revolver grenade launcher idea is too cool

[@GoldenEvolution]

7:56 you said delete the bullet, does that mean you're not using object pooling for the bullets then?

[@sdsdfdu4437]

I was just about to make this comment. Pooling is the first optimization technique I implement in games these days

[@Miziziziz]

I have object pooling but I'm getting rid of it. I did some testing and found it doesn't improve performance at all.Something about the way godot is designed. The only improvement it gives is compiling shaders on start up, and there are better ways to do that.

[@GoldenEvolution]

@@Miziziziz Sounds like Godot is a lot better than Unity in that regard then, because having no object pooling there with tons of bullets causes so much lag. Go Godot!

[@sdsdfdu4437]

@@Miziziziz that doesn't sound right, u less Godot is maybe doing some automatic pooling in the background

[@nodeg]

@@sdsdfdu4437 Juan Linietski, the engine dev, says "You don't need to do that in Godot because allocating/freeing scenes/classes is fast and there is no garbage collector in GDScript/Godot." GDquest expands on it more in their intro to design patterns page.

[@actualhyena]

One of the most impressive things is that even despite being told the animation calculations have been reduced, I still can't notice the difference if I look really hard.

[@avgchoobafan]

Amazing devlog! And also the insight in the optimization tehniques are really interesting, and i was wondering, if the kinematic calcultions aren't very noticeable what about having just a limited amount of npcs in high priority instead of dinamically change their priority based on distance? Like the 8 closest npcs in high priority and the rest on low. Also a lot of processes can be done in fractions of a second instead of a per frame basis. +15 times per second is hardly noticeable and diferentiable from per frame updates. This can be used for paths and internal behaviours like strafing and aiming and interpolating the end result if neccesary. Sorry if i sound mean in any way. Love your videos man!

[@ilovehumongoushonkers]

That bullpup smg reminds me of the TKB-022PM, TKB-011 and TKB-0146. Really funny looking guns I think you could make something inspired by those

[@Rysak70]

Your devlogs are so good !

[@Jaded_AF]

This was really entertaining, Never thought optimization could be so interesting.

[@MarkusScheme]

this game honestly looks so cool

[@jimmynutrition7858]

cant wait to buy this looks amazing keep up the AMAZING work

[@battenburg6089]

Your vidoes give me a lot of imagination for making my own models and world. I can't make games, but I like to make things anyway.

[@jackwattsitoyu9274]

1:34 I always imagined sardukar armor looking something like this

[@jonathancamarena3117]

Bought the course my guy! -> thanks for all the great work!

[@bumboy5348]

My favorite KZbin series