How To Plane a Bridgeport Mill Table: Part 1

Using my 1943 Rock Ford Metal Planer to restore a Bridgeport Mill I am rebuilding.. Show you the setup and planning the top in this part.. Part 2 will have planning the dovetails.

[@danneumann3274]

amazing how the best way to do this job hasnt changed in almost 200 years.

[@jackrichards1863]

Well maybe seventy or eighty years?

[@danneumann3274]

@@jackrichards1863 planers similar to this were around in the early to mid eighteen hundreds

[@tonyray91]

The other reason for using the full stroke of the planer is to help to keep bead wear even.

[@thecanadiantradesman7916]

As a hobby shop for sure, no doubt. I would bet as a professional shop just to keep costs down on machine time they would go for the shortest stroke and machine run time to stay competitive, that being said they probably wouldn't be doing this with a planer either lol

[@Sketch1994]

@@thecanadiantradesman7916 In that case they probably would. Shaping introduces much less residual stresses in the material than milling, thus allowing to machine the table without warping it all over the place

[@digitalmagic101]

I really dont know any thing about this type of work I am a Animator by trade but I found this so relaxing thank you for the video and time to relax and enjoy some thing different, have a great day.

[@10swatkins]

You're very welcome!

[@stacy6014]

I wish you were a couple thousand miles closer. I would have mine sitting on your door step to do. I have an older Gorton mill that could use some love like this. I enjoy your videos Steve. Joe

[@10swatkins]

Thanks Joe... I always like Gorton mills :)

[@byronselorme9477]

Thanks for sharing these videos Steve. Love watching these for ideas with our machine building best practices!

[@jimdean7335]

If you are happy, we are happy. Glad to see someone else does a diet dew a day. I also do a brew a day, but after I finish in the shop. And Don, tell Steve the batteries in the flash light will last longer if he turns it off.🤓

[@10swatkins]

I am happy.... Who knew the batteries would last longer! .... Actually I was using it for camera lighting and to keep the people that make batteries busy :)

[@donmadere4237]

Can’t argue with that!!

[@magnuscarlander2464]

Why don't You start with the bottom so You can assure to take as little as necessy on that surface?

[@Bobs-Wrigles5555]

Steve sort of explains why top first at 5:10, later he also says the dovetails are going to be a pain to get into, so the less you have to do on the bottom the better. Guess we'll have to wait for the next episode to see what he means 😀

[@10swatkins]

You start with the top and that becomes a solid base for the underside work. By leveling the top's 4 corners like I did it assures you don't take off more than necessary on the top and also the bottom at the same time...

[@thebotformalityknownasdale2564]

Steve that is the coolest vintage equipment that would give you the potential to get as close to perfection as a man can get ! It's a lot louder than even the biggest ones iv seen (check out Curtis at CEE cutting-edge engineering) he just got the biggest I have seen anywhere certainly in its line of manufacture and it would have some limitations where you would not ! I don't know enugh to know what makes one better than the other . However I'm positive I would have a lot more fun with your planer than any shaper I have seen !

[@10swatkins]

Don't care how big it is it's still a shaper :) Shapers are limited by stroke and table size. My planer is limited also but that limit is 96 inch stroke ! I could find a bigger one if needed :) Not so on a shaper...

[@rossilake218]

Exactly! Wheres my buddy:Don?

[@10swatkins]

@@rossilake218 I thi k he is back in Jail...

[@MrMojolinux]

Nice plane-ing job Steve, but what's with the hurky jerky stroking camera?

[@gorak9000]

I noticed that too - I was wondering if it was on my end, or if it was just the video. Seemed to be always when it was the gopro camera - the video just periodically freezes for a second. Very odd

[@10swatkins]

It was something on KZbins end.... IT did not look like that when I sent it up! They reprocess it for compression I guess :(

[@michaelrandle4128]

Beautiful finish., slow and steady wins the race. I think Don has a little planer envy. Thanks for sharing.

[@10swatkins]

I caught him one sleeping on the table!

[@huibhoogendoorn503]

Wy didn't you support the middle of the table for the push down fors?

[@10swatkins]

This is so thick it was not needed..... On thinner stuff I sometime put in jacks.

[@paulmackintosh3171]

Hi Steve, thanks for yet another enjoyable video. You have grown to become one of my favorite machine video providers :-) Best regards from Denmark

[@10swatkins]

Wow, thanks!

[@tonyray91]

Your videos are the ones I take my time over to watch to ensure II’m not going to be disturbed or distracted .

[@tonyray91]

Abom79 has does barbecuing, Steve Summers has squirrels, CEE has his dog….. Steve’s got …. Don !

[@gorak9000]

And ToT has his kid / cats / time travel, etc etc, Joe Py his worlf spiders, RotarySMP his channel's #1 fan, Nico, and of course Ollie has ratty / croc / baby rat / cocky / magpie, and kookaburra

[@ellieprice363]

@@gorak9000 And Mr. Pete has his Opti-Visor, sometimes.

[@michaelsteakley3898]

That looks great. I appreciate your dilligence and workmanship to not be in a big hurry. Question - My old Bridgport table has some weld repair areas. Can it still be planed?

[@10swatkins]

Depending on the type of material they welded it with... Most weld deposits are harder than the cast iron and will cause the tool to jump when it hits the harder surface.. If it is a lot of welds it would be better to have it ground...

[@jimzivny1554]

Beautiful finish. Like Keith Fenner says occasionally "it's better to be looking at it than looking for it" I've known a few guys who thought being aggressive with their cuts saved a lot time until they went too far and had to weld it up and do it over or scrap part. I'm with you, be conservative and remove as little as possible.

[@10swatkins]

Yep , you can take too much, better to do it once :)

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

“Pakistani Truck Method” 🤣

[@waynep343]

Have you seen their channel. They stripped a brand new hino truck down to bare frame rails separated from the cross members. Quadruple framed it. Made new really beefy cross members. It was all going I want one of those till they sent it to the pimp and tassels shop. If you have a cracked wheel center. They throw it on a lathe and cut it out. Weld in a new center they stamped and turned while you wait.

[@10swatkins]

I admire their work ethic... I just wish they had more to work with :(

[@kevinhaley8625]

Steve, you said to bevel the forward edge so it doesn’t chip out chunks, so do you also bevel the cross slots at each end of the table? Sorry, I didn’t hear if you said we are to bevel those cross slots and watched it twice just to see if I missed something. Thank you in advance sir.

[@10swatkins]

you can and must if you are taking a lot of depth of cut... On this job I was only taking about .003 of material in those areas so I did not bother with the cross slots..

[@kevinhaley8625]

@@10swatkins I thank you sir for the information, nice looking shop

[@djfaber]

Could you detect that 8 thou while the table was still on the machine?

[@10swatkins]

I never measured it.... I knew it was coming off to replace the nuts and screws... You could easily measure it with a 4 foot straight edge...

[@coreyb4073]

Very nice, to the people who think your not going fast enough, you can hear it howling in the middle from being un supported, but int needs to be unsupported so its flat in "free state", also the same reason you would fight it on a grinder; the chuck wants to suck the bow out of the table, then it comes back on the surface plate

[@10swatkins]

Yes and by using a positive rake tool there is less down force... Sometimes supporting it make chatter....

[@oldnick4707]

@@10swatkins why not just have it Blanchard ground?

[@waynep343]

Should have tee shirts . Come ride my Rockwell Planer. Smooth landings every time after a lot of touch and go's and a few go arounds.

[@10swatkins]

Everyone want shirts...... :)

[@roylucas4414]

What a great video. Thanks for allowing me to look over your shoulder.

[@10swatkins]

Thanks for watching and helping my channel grow!

[@nalinux]

I just have a Mini lathe and a CNC3018. This thing is insane to me :)

[@10swatkins]

Stick around ... Pretty soon I'll have you infected with old machineitis :)

[@dannywilsher4165]

sweet

[@williambramer8217]

I thought about leaving 2000 comments but then thought better of it. Nevertheless enjoyed the video - I love seeing the planer in action. Judging by the first passes there seemed to be a little twist in the top surface.

[@10swatkins]

2000 thumbs up would be ok too :) Yes there was a slight twist to the top also... All better now :)

[@SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so]

It's tragic that so few younger guys are preserving these old treasures ...and the knowledge and wisdom.

[@10swatkins]

Well when I was younger I had no time for this either.. Girls were the main focus :)

[@mythril4]

I am younger but I can only spend so much, I have restored a Fadal VMC 4020, a nice 1989 Acra mill and a lathe. I always want more machines to rebuild but out where I live, they are all gold so they don't come cheap.

[@drevil4454]

I'm familiar with scraping machines but i've never seen a planer like this. Wouldn't they use suface grinders to do this job in today's time???

[@10swatkins]

That they do... But mills to get it close first... Grinding is a slow process.

[@paulpipitone8357]

I don’t know about anybody else but the rhythm of that machine is so relaxing. Love the job guys thank you for sharing and taking us on this journey

[@10swatkins]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@W4BIN]

I find it odd that he had to grind a bevel on the leading edge of the casting, but not the two leading edges after the two perpendicular slots (perpendicular to the "T" slots) near to the ends of the casting. Ron W4BIN

[@10swatkins]

I was only taking off 3 thou on those ends... there was a little bevel from the factory...

[@mikecowan1471]

The bevel on the cast iron edge answers why there are bigger bevels on 1 end of a south bend lathe

[@ericpeterson336]

Will you have to scrape in the table ways after re-cutting them?How is cardiac rehab going? It was a good thing for me.

[@10swatkins]

I will scrap in everything but the surface of the table... Rehab is going great... 5 more weeks : ( BUT I am an all star compared to 90 % of the people going through it with me... I am blessed!

[@firstmkb]

I’ve never seen this kind of machine before. Do the terms planer and shaper mean the same thing, or is it by “moving table” versus “moving tool”, or something else? I don’t know about some of the comments you’ve gotten, but I’ve never heard complaints about long strokes! Besides, using the full length will wear your table evenly, right? Very cool, and nice to hear your explanation!

[@10swatkins]

A shaper is usually small, a big one is a 36". PLaners can get really big... A planer has a moving table and a fixed head or heads. Mine has 2 heads, I have seen 4 head machines. Shapers have a fixed table and moving tool head... I go long stroke because I am going for supper accuracy, .001" over 4 or 5 feet. That is a lot of moving mass on the table and long strokes give the table time to settle in before it hits the metal.

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

A planed mill table is a great idea, plenty of quality machines such as Deckel’s have planed tables. Much less likely to develop a raised up ding than a ground table.

[@johnharlow486]

? Why is it different?

[@EnlightenedSavage]

This doesn’t make sense .

[@tonyray91]

Is there any possibility that the table will deflect under the cutting pressure as it’s hollow on the underside due to the bow or is the casting too massive for it to be an issue.? Would you pack the bow out if it were a thinner section?

[@10swatkins]

This is pretty thick and by taking light cuts with a sharp bit / a light rake I avoid too much deflection.... I do a lot of straight edges that are lighter sections and hard to hold also.. Same method helps...

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good video..new suscriptor

[@10swatkins]

Thanks for the sub!

[@Poppop-el3jc]

Good job son Good job As far as the nicks go A blind man would be tickled to death to see them or You will never see them from the river

[@davenicholson3491]

I’d love to have a machine like yours, be awesome to be able to plane my lathe bed ways. You sir have some fantastic skills. Greetings from Perth Australia 🇦🇺

[@christopherleveck6835]

I have been looking for a shaper for a long time. The only ones I've come across are too small, too pretty and waaaay to expensive..... With that said, the 74" table on my Lagunport (Lagun Republic turret vertical knee mill with a variable speed J head) needs its table done. Same issue as with yours. As near as I can tell, the dovetails ie the bottom of the table and the saddle all seem perfect. I still have the scraping swirls on the matting surfaces. I replaced the old ballscrews with brand new high precision (unbelievably expensive but bought new as surplus thank god) ground ballscrews...... So now I've go ZERO backlash and the only thing I'm having to deal with is about a .002" rise in the middle. Front to back its fine. So the question is.... can I face mill or flycut the table on the machine? Other than having the bow in my table I think the machine overall is perfect. Well, now anyway.

[@10swatkins]

If you have a bow on the top I can say you probably have a problem with the dovetails also.. Run the table to the middle, adjust the gib snugly and then see what it is doing as it nears each end of travel... Milling the top only takes care of the top...

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@10swatkins helped a friend work on his Bridgeport and his had that problem. It was so tight in the middle it wouldn't move all the way to the end. And there was no adjustment left in the gib. My jib is tight and it's barely snugged down. I think this mill has had very light duty or maybe wasn't used much at all. The table has a bow but it's really more of an "M" shape. There is a kind of an outline on the table with the middle looking new and everything around it is "dirty" looking. I think maybe it had a fixture plate or something bolted down in the middle third of the table with 8 bolts holding it down. The 8 bolts were 2 on each end with 4 on each side but close to the ends. So it may have pulled things up on either side of the middle. So the ends of the table are the lowest point. The center of the table is .001" and on either side of the center is .002". So it looks a little like this: ______-----__-----______ If I move the table end to end and put an indicator on the quill I can move the table all the way back and the ram all the way forward and the indicator runs true on the bottom of the front face of the table. And I'm good on the top face along the x and y all around the edge of the table top and bottom. So I'm thinking I should be OK surfacing it. I have a 4 inch face mill with indexable cutters and I have a fly cutter that will go larger than that but it balances really nicely at 3.75". It takes a 5/8" HSS blank or I have a carbide tool I can use with it. I like grinding my own tools but I don't know which I should use. Or if I should even do it. I've been thinking about making a surface grinder to attach to the back accessory loop.....

[@10swatkins]

@@christopherleveck6835 For something like that I would not face mill it... I would just scrape the table... Of course I have a power scraper and that would make short work of it.

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@10swatkins that's a good reason to buy a new tool.....

[@marvinpybus4599]

Our grandfathers turned America into a super power with old iron like this and lots of hard work. You do realize that one day you and the other KZbin teachers will be in a video history library at schools across our country to show students how America was built, right?

[@10swatkins]

That's my plan... I have been working toward a shop that has everything I need to completely rehab a machine in house... I have reached an agreement with Skill Share and who knows you might see some videos popping up in their innovatory :)

[@waynep343]

Steve there was a video 2 or3 years ago about an India company building new hydraulic edit. Planers

[@billdivine9501]

You can get that light at Harbor Freight and it recharges by usb. I have several in my shop. So far only 1 was a dud!

[@10swatkins]

I'll check it out.... Thanks

[@THEIRONWORKER]

How do you get the tool square to the table to make those big step over cuts

[@10swatkins]

You might have notice setting the tool up in the video... I set the tool down on the surface and adjust it almost flat to the planed surface...

[@johnskelin2566]

Steve please bring back the bell🤣

[@10swatkins]

Trouble maker!

[@bcbloc02]

I would LOVE to have a big planer!

[@10swatkins]

I would love to have a boring mill :)

[@donmadere4237]

They are very cool machines!

[@jerrywilson9730]

Thanks for the time you take to show these great machines at work.

[@10swatkins]

You bet

[@stephenvale2624]

I agree. Definitely equals a rehab workout.

[@haroldsprenkle4173]

Hey you said comment so here it goes, glad Don came by to supervise. Your wife brought liquid refreshments, I have been getting into diet ginger beer myself. Was waiting for you to put a cramp on the backside, rod and a wedge, anything, but you remembered. Doing good. Myself I have just been making parts for the engineers, getting them coming out to see me before they go home, pick their brain and I throw my 2 cents in, maybe I won't have to make so many prototype parts that way. Engineers are special, tool and die guys just have to figure out what they want done, make it work and explain it to them so they can change it in autocad, but now they use solid works. Give me a Big Chief tablet and a pencil. Ok, been commenting about work, been a 2 year ordeal at work, I have been there 9 months now, 2 engineers have thrown their hands in the air and quit on this new line, they got mad and put part of it on the die shop to handle, we handled it. Wish us luck, we are making parts now, hand testing components now, but making parts for auto test machine now. Can't explain too much, proprietary stuff. But I am making this stuff on a Bridgeport clone. How much stuff has been turned out on a Bridgeport, toolroom mill of choice, might not be the best at anything but it will do everything. Handier than a pocket on a shirt.

[@10swatkins]

I also find a good manual mill to be essential ... Don't have to be a big mill as a Bridgeport will do about 75% of the jobs...

[@darrendean21]

Nice and slow Steve, nice and slow .... no rush for no-one :)

[@10swatkins]

You got that right! A 42" bed from H& W is 1780.00! Who knows when I could get a 48" and probably at least 2000.00....

[@rossilake218]

Steve, I like you guys. Please don't bang with your fist. Use lead or brass. Thank you.

[@10swatkins]

I have a tough fist... Also I can feel better than a hammer :)

[@rossilake218]

@@10swatkins Steve the athritis will catch up with you, ask me how i know? I'm 60 and i'm careful about banging/shaking my wrists. Be careful, we like you and Mr Don.

[@10swatkins]

@@rossilake218 Got you beat :) 65

[@ricko5123]

I've run shapers but not planers and they are beautiful and the nice thing is if you run them slow enough and precise you can have your whole house painted by Don by the time the part is finished. These machines are why I have to stay off Auction Sites and even ebay or I'll come up with another excuse to the wife... The old dreaded Bridgeport table really looks nice, Steve. Imagine if our tables could speak, man the stories they could tell from abuse. Ricko

[@10swatkins]

I tried to talk Don out of it.... Really tried.... You can lead a horse to water :)

[@Jeremy-iv9bc]

You have to admit it's pretty impressive how well those Pakistani guys do with the most basic tools possible. Great video Steve!

[@10swatkins]

Thanks 👍 I am also impressed that they work so hard... Of course their repairs always fail but damn they do the best they can with what they have!

[@Jeremy-iv9bc]

@@10swatkins job security! Lol!

[@rudymagarin6292]

CALIDAD DE TRABAJO SALUDOS

[@nick4506]

why not stick a tool in the mill and have it mill it's own table. its automatically perfectly square and everything with the tool. kinda like how surface grinders grind their own magnetic chuck things.

[@10swatkins]

How do you think this table was finished in the first place :)

[@KennyEaton603]

I’ve had a shaper obsession since I first saw one. Planers are awesome as well, but that thing is bigger than my home shop (10’x12’ shed with concrete floor). I still don’t have a shaper, someday though. My father has been a job shop machinist for 40+ years now, always tells me shapers, planers, jig borers and horizontal mills (K&T and such) are obsolete. He’s not wrong, he’s just surrounded by million dollar CNC machines at work. The rest of us have to get by with old technology that isn’t as fast.

[@10swatkins]

For 99% of the jobs even planers are obsolete.. For rebuilding machine tools and straight edges they are low cost machines that are well suited for the work... Slower but this is not production work. I hear you on the size.. I am struggling with a 40x 60!

[@michaelrandle4128]

Ah but it is as fast, if you want to make small numbers of parts, by the time they have programmed the cnc and checked all the tooling, found this plane and that plane you can have a few done on a manual machine,

[@KennyEaton603]

@@michaelrandle4128 they have Proto-Traks for that. The only manual machining left is high-precision lathe work. If you’ve never seen a 50hp horizontal CNC remove metal, you’ll have a hard time catching it despite set-up time. MasterCAM is phenomenally good, every modern CNC can probe a part faster than you can indicate it in a manual machine, and when you have a tool library of 600+ tools and 115 tools in the tool changer, there are few advantages to manually machining the parts. Especially if it’s complex. The 5-axis machines are incredible with a good programmer. Sadly, manual machining is dying. It will always exist at some level, but the days of even low-production being cost effective are quickly becoming history.

[@KennyEaton603]

@@mayshack I truly believe that machining itself is slowly dying. As metal 3D printing improves and becomes more cost effective, it’s going to become difficult to compete with. There isn’t much left made from actual metal anyway. Everything is injection molded plastic and cast garbage metal. The world is in a race to the bottom, and for reasons I don’t understand. I personally appreciate things I can buy knowing they will outlast me.

[@russkepler]

As the saying goes "you can make anything with a shaper or planer, except money"

[@MUDNROCKS]

I used to own a flat belt driven planer with an 8 ft bed, never used it a lot but there are things that you just can't do on other machines, the rumble rumble squeak and ease of getting something dead flat ....... should never have sold it.

[@10swatkins]

I guess a flat belt is better than no mill at all :) I just love the Hydraulic one I have... Not sure how I would get along with a flat belt...

[@scruffy6151]

Nice job setting up the work piece for planning.

[@10swatkins]

Thank you Sir....

[@ponga782]

I have a SB9A and a SB16. any interest in milling some ways. The 16 is already apart and the 9 would be even easier to pull apart.

[@10swatkins]

Maybe but it would be awhile, I'm really snowed under...

[@CrowBarActual]

Think I would have used (6) block, (3) on each side to prevent any flex in the middle.

[@10swatkins]

then you would have had a screwed up table with a bow in the middle... 4 is the only way to get a straight surface between the two ends...

[@ericsandberg3167]

There is a lot of knowledge based set up to get these kind of results....I wonder, how fine of a step over can you take with this planer...?? Looking forward to see the magic on how you do the dove tails on the back side.

[@10swatkins]

The step over is controlled by the hydraulic motor... I can set it down pretty fine but for this you want wider step over to create the slight ridges for parts to sit on... Too fine or scraped surfaces make parts hard to move around...

[@richardandrews6754]

Hi Steve, great to see the planer in action, one question, how would the original ways have been machined, I see the top of the table was planed but the ways are much longer would they have been ground?.

[@10swatkins]

Planning has no limits on length ... Just need a longer planer :)

[@AnvilDragon]

You're not trying to generate dollars per hour so no reason to drive the equipment hard. Taken care of this could last a couple more generations doing good work for people who care about machines.

[@10swatkins]

My thoughts exactly, Thanks for watching :)

[@kurtkrueger9715]

I understand the need to raise the tool on the return stroke, but what's the purpose of the double-kick? Thanks -Kurt

[@10swatkins]

That is a problem with the pump or valves.. It works so I am not inclined to make it worse by fixing it :)

[@paulcooper2897]

I am 1/10,000th of your goal! Loved watching and learning about the planer! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

[@10swatkins]

You da MAN!

[@johnlee8231]

Been looking forward to seeing this since you first showed us the planer. Its a good day plus a Don sighting

[@10swatkins]

Thanks for watching....

[@larsrodbok1285]

Mezmerizing, Steve! I agree with the “measure twice, cut once” ethos! Thanks for the great video, again!

[@10swatkins]

Thanks Lars.....

[@trevorjarvis3050]

@@10swatkins good morning! Sir. How wide is your cutting bit, and how much step over did you use? Is there a certain… “percentage” of overlap from pass to pass you were shooting for? Thanks.

[@10swatkins]

@@trevorjarvis3050 That bit is 5/8" wide and I was taking about a .250 step over... IN this case I was having to play with the settings to eliminate chatter... When I hit upon something that worked I stay with it :) Sometimes you can go wider, sometimes you have to narrow it up... All depends on the casting and hardness of the iron..

[@trevorjarvis3050]

@@10swatkins yes Sir, if it works don’t fix it. I’ve run a small shaper like Mr Pete has. That must be a rather powerful planer. I didn’t think the step over would be that much. I kinda thought it would more like an 1/8 with a 1/2” tool bit. Great video, looking forward to the dovetails being cut.

[@10swatkins]

@@trevorjarvis3050 I have taken 3/4 inch step overs :) This thing will peal metal! IT will also do surgical strikes... When the casting cost 2000.00 to replace, which would you do?

[@garyknight3019]

Looks great guys….not something you see in Australia….not sure what they used back in the day…certainly something I would live to own👍👍👍👍

[@10swatkins]

Thanks for watching!

[@jackpledger8118]

Great video on brings the table back into spec. Do you have to do anything to the T slots after surfacing the top?

[@10swatkins]

I just run a stone or file over the slots if needed...

[@ellieprice363]

@@10swatkins Steve I know you’ll use the full size tee slot nuts that fit the grooves instead of the little bitty import ones that bugger them up.

[@GeorgeWMays]

That is slicker than snail snot. Thanks for sharing the video. Super cool.

[@10swatkins]

Thanks for watching!

[@kdenyer1]

You know your machine.

[@danrabenhorst2549]

sure glad Don showed up to supervise

[@10swatkins]

:)

[@trumanhw]

If I'm not mistaken, they don't actually remove any metal until ~ @38:00 ... Seems an excellent tool (attachment?) that MANY mills would benefit from It'd also be great to not only plane mill but lathes. THis is awesome.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I used to suck them Mountain Dews down. A buddy got me started on them and I made up for lost time. Kept two 6-packs in the company truck tool box all the time but here in the hills it's not hard to get the real thing. This was after my all expenses paid tropical vacation where I about burned my kidneys out drinking Fanta orange and grape because the water point was almost all the time messed up. And as it was said about Carl Jackson a while back, I'm glad to see the beautiful and talented Don Madre, the Rembrandt of the rebuilt and restored metal working machine world back in his rightful place, trying to turn your planer over by leaning on it. And remember, ONE Dew a day. And don't forget the GATE! GBWYall!

[@10swatkins]

Well I used them to keep me awake :) After the heart attack they are trying to keep my heart rate and pressure down... I was thinking maybe a few MD's might be at cross purposes...

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@10swatkins More than likely. I have never seen 2 that agreed on anything.

[@artmckay6704]

I love that machine! It does such a nice job of flattening stuff! The base that your planer table rides back and forth on must be flat within 100 millionths or better! That Planer is one nice machine! :)

[@johnlottes7440]

I noticed that you aren't using any coolant or lubricant. Why?

[@10swatkins]

None needed... Cast iron already has graphite in it.. And the planer table has no provisions for coolant and it would contaminate the table oiling system/

[@trentbain4988]

ahh shucks Steve i am happy your happy, really like your video's. was an automotive machinist for 16 years, really enjoyed doing the work.

[@10swatkins]

Thanks 👍

[@platin2148]

I suspect the casting was in the old days significantly cheaper.

[@10swatkins]

H&W will sell you a more common 42" table for 1787.00 plus shipping :)

[@tomeyssen9674]

Beautiful job. Enjoyed watching perfection! 😊

[@10swatkins]

Thank you so much 😊

[@CraigLYoung]

Very educational, thanks for sharing 👍

[@10swatkins]

Thanks for watching and your 1 of the required 2000 comments :)

[@CraigLYoung]

@@10swatkins : You should asked yourself, "Do I really want a retired Infantrymen giving me 1,999 comments?"

[@bernardwill7196]

Mr. Watkins what cost a KW/h where you live ?

[@10swatkins]

.0978

[@bernardwill7196]

@@10swatkins Thanks for the answer. You are lucky, here in germany cost a KW/h US $ 0,321.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Nice one . I remember there was some huge planer machines at the railway workshops where i started my apprenticeship a long time ago . 👍

[@10swatkins]

Yes Planers can get really huge :) This one is about 28 feet long and as much as I can reasonable cram into the shop !

[@drevil4454]

I wonder, when would you plane and when would you scrape a table?

[@10swatkins]

You plane first to remove bulk material... Rule of thumb is you grind or plane if it is over .005"

[@jeremycable51]

Looking forward to the rest of this series especially the turcite/rulan process there’s not very many good videos of this process of correcting warped and bent machine tool castings besides just scraping and making a new gib

[@10swatkins]

Don't think this one will need it.... We will see..... Not much to doing turcite... just glue it on and then scrap it ......

[@jeremycable51]

@@10swatkins i need to do something with my lathe compound it’s horribly worn and as of now I don’t trust my mill to machine it close enough to scrap it in

[@10swatkins]

@@jeremycable51 Trucite is really easy to scrape... In fact usually with cast iron I don't mill anything that is less than 5 thousand out... Of course I have a power scraper and a power flaker also.. A lot can be done with power tools :)

[@benkeller3]

Just found your channel. After watching this video it looks like I will be spending a bunch of time watching your videos. Very nice job!

[@10swatkins]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@dnixon8767]

Thanks for another interesting video.

[@10swatkins]

Your welcome

[@marcelbouchard5955]

use a feeler gage .001in. with your angle plate.

[@jerrellkull5347]

That is a nice machine to have, the possibilities are endless. Take care Steve, and Don....

[@10swatkins]

Thanks

[@sgtokie]

i never let anyone lean on my machines-just my OCD

[@10swatkins]

Does your machine weigh 22000 pounds :)

[@grahamheath3799]

Interesting never seen a planer in operation before

[@10swatkins]

They are unique... Out dated for almost everything now days but well suit to the things I do...

[@leeroyholloway4277]

That's a magnificent machine. Kudos to you for moving, setting up & keeping it in use.

[@10swatkins]

Thank you very much!

[@byronwatkins2565]

Taking it slow also allows the table to relax as stressed metal is removed.

[@10swatkins]

Yep.. In my situation fast just is not worth it..

[@carltonlane8931]

Thanks for the video,enjoyed the set up.made a brilliant surfaced bed.

[@10swatkins]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@carltonlane8931]

The tapered ways ,they are going to be very interesting to see the set up,thanks again for the videos.

[@10swatkins]

@@carltonlane8931 Very soon :)

[@johnb5519]

You're a wily old fox there Steve, when it comes to setting up that planer. Do you only have to grind a bevel on the edge with cast iron, or do you do it on everything?

[@10swatkins]

I don't have to on steel but it helps ease the bit into the work....Cast iron is brittle in that regard and tears easily.

[@dannywilsher4165]

machine!

[@christophercullen1236]

Still trying to find a safe place for you and Don to live your three neighbour states are worse ! Maybe your commenter who communicates with me could help Christopher from Down Under

[@10swatkins]

Oh we are ok.. :) I guess you did not notice the small case on my belt :)

[@christophercullen1236]

@@10swatkins what was that for ? Christopher from Down Under

[@10swatkins]

@@christophercullen1236 emergency ventilator

[@jackrichards1863]

That final pass is a coarse finish after the previous. Is that a tool dulling or different depth of cut? Great machine you're using and I have to admire the ability you have to use it. Accurate job.

[@10swatkins]

No in fact it is a fresh sharpened bit... about .002 deep...

[@jackrichards1863]

@@10swatkins That is the thing I wondered about. wasn't sure the sharpening had been done for the last or the previous but now I see? I also have the idea you'll stone the surface next to give a cleaner finish?

[@Hoaxer51]

Now that you have that top really looking nice, do you put anything on it to keep it from rusting or getting a flash rust on it? I’ve used a product called Top Coat, I think it might be called Boeing Shield on my table saw and jointer that’s in my basement and I’ve never had any trouble with it. Man that top came out pretty!

[@10swatkins]

I have used Boeshield T-9 for years... OF course this mill will be kept inside he Climate controlled part of the shop :) After all this work it's only right!

[@Hoaxer51]

@@10swatkins, Man, did I screw up the spelling on that or what? It does do a nice job though.

[@seantap1415]

love the old machines and seeing them being used..... But wouldn't hiting it down with a soft blow hammer introduce a twist. it should be shimmed I think but maybe I'm wrong.... Cheers

[@dannywilsher4165]

is

[@m.m.7511]

Goes through batteries like amber Hurd goes through money!!!! Hahahaha....

[@dannywilsher4165]

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[@MitchEllis-e4y]

Machin mekanik uses a wiggly wire. When you see him pull out a dial micrometer he’s done got serious. LOL. I think he is in Vietnam but not sure.