How to plant a rose in a container WITHOUT harming it! David Austin Rose Roald Dahl

I have mentioned most of these things before in previous videos but I wanted them all under one neat roof for ease.
I have seen many rose planting videos and many I have seen are not in accordance with what David Austin now recommends. In this video I show you some tips and tricks of what I have learnt from my own experience. Furthermore, David Austin do a great tutorial on there website.
David Austin Rose Roald Dahl
Many thanks for watching

[@cherylbeswick7327]

Great video, very helpful

[@Jay_Jay]

Thank you :)

[@obiwankenobi6952]

Hi Jay Jay, what a beautiful Pot…😍😍I have lots of Roses in Pots, but I had big problems with our very wet winter and spring, most of them I had to repot because of the bad drainage, most of them had such compact root systems the water just couldn’t get out…I never thought about Styrofoam, I use expanded clay pebbles, but with an extra Vlies around it so making a drainage bag on the bottom…but the styrofoam gives it some frost protection also….very interesting Thanks ❤❤❤

[@hungariancottageadventure77]

That's great advice especially about the root and turning the pot upside down, top tip, I guess we have to source polystyrene now 🤔

[@Jay_Jay]

Thanks potager. David Austin suggests holding the pot upright by the bud Union and then striking down on the top edge of the pot to separate it away. That’s all very well IF the soil AND roots are all firm in the pot. If it’s not it’s like holding onto the flag of the sandcastle whilst knocking the bucket downwards. 😂😂 I did explain this but I wanted to get the 10.00 min video:) Polystyrene I got from the local fish shop bin. ;)

[@rareandwonderfull]

0:24 So you raided the tip!?? 😆😆 After seeing thousands of ants coming and going from my potted plants through the years I finally got into the routine of tightly installing window screen wire inside the bottom to fence out the little pissmeirs! 1:08 Nice looking pot though! The fired glaze will greatly slow down drying out, less often watering. I can not recall ever seeing any pots that nice here in the USA. I am gardening for 50+ years now and it seemed to me that my plants that I have in potting mix would attain to perhaps 80 to 90 percent of the lushness and vibrancy of those planted in the ground. Several years ago i wondered "Is it lack of earthworms?" So I incorporatd earthworm castings into the mix, I did not percieve a significant improvement. Then I wondered "Is there some electro magnetic phenomena occuring between the plant roots and the finely broken down minerals in the ground?" So anyhow, for several years now, I mix approximately 50% potting mix with 50% good, healthy garden soil, this I put into the lower 30% of the pot, then I finish filling it with potting mix. I do believe that i see more vibrancy and lushness in the leaves now, and certainly less "crash" of the plant stalling out going into a decline after a few years in the pot. 9:00 I am in the habit the past five years of planting alyssum in my potted roses, it looks so idyllic, vintage and helps to integrate the pot into it's garden environment. It looks lovely to see alyssum dripping down partially concealing the pot. The pots that I like best are my 100 years old Weller pots with their vintage, low color saturation, I love the 1890's Victorian era romantic look and the star of the show should be the plant, the pot should play the part of a supporting actor/actress, not command attention away from the plant. Also, if possible, I integrate the pot colors to the plant in the pot. A great disadvantage of old pots is that they are seldom large enough for a fully developed rose plant, so rather than my roses being prisoners in pots too small, I put them into massive plastic pots and try to conceal the odious plastic behind alyssum. Sorry to ramble on, I have written a chapter ina book with all of this , but plants in general, and roses in particular are a deep fascination and work of mine for many decades. I don't want a large number of roses, i just want representatives of each category of old, Victorian, vintage style roses. Thank you for sharing! Ralph in Ohio.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Ralph. “Window screen wire”? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of this? I assume it lets water drain out of the pot also? I have heard of people using ladies stockings to cover over the hole to keep out snails but never heard of this wire you use. Yes I do like a nice pot. But it’s the expense of them sadly. More recently I have opted for the larger plastic pots which can take more root and less expensive. Having companion plants trailing over the edge solves the look of course and it’s something I’ve started to introduce on some of mine. The potting mix is something mine has evolved since making this video. I no longer use potting mix at all in my potted roses, but I came to this conclusion from a different direction. I noticed even after 2 or 3 seasons the roots of the roses hadn’t really grown in potting mix. I do have footage of unpotting a rose planted in potting mix with the rootball being able to fit back into a DA green pot. That’s after two full summers! I noticed however that roses I had planted in pots with a mix of garden soil, the roots had grown big and strong filling the pot much more as I’d expect. So now I use a 50 percent mix of ordinary garden soil and John innes number 3 with is a loam based soil made up of peat, clay and sand I believe. The irony of this is I don’t really notice a difference above ground after 1 or 2 or even 3 summers. The roses above ground still do very well regardless. (Providing of course they are fed.) but it is clear in the heavier soil the roots are stronger and more extensive. Well it’s been awful weather here the past few days. Rain and the relentless high winds that have featured so much this year has yet again left my garden in ruins. Was actually starting to look nice only a few days ago. Now, it’s taken a proper kick in the balls. Again! Anyway Ralph I hope your having a nice day.

[@rareandwonderfull]

@@Jay_Jay Thank you Jay for your long, informative reply. The ladie's stocking sounds ggod for keepingants out. Yes, my pots drain effortlessly using the window screen wire. We seem to have independently arrived at the same observation and similar but not identical solution. I use half good , rich garden soil and half peat moss/perlite potting mix mixed together in the lower 50% of the pot, then straight potting mix to top that off. I have noticed that if there is too much garden soil in the top, that when watering, the water will run off and not soak in. Yes, when my rose plants get to their second and third and older years, I must put them into rugged, well made plastic pots. I hate the modern look of them, so far the only way that i have found of concealing them is to have alyssum trail down their sides. Lax canes also help. Sorry to learn of your terrible weather. No strong winds here in Ohio, just miserable heat which has now passed. All black spot infested leaves have dropped off and new, healthy leaves have come on. Well, today is the first day of autumn, after that comes winter, which I think of as "dream time". The time of year that i learn and plan and dream of what I shall do with the garden the coming growing season. The past winter, it was pleasant to study what the famous English gardeners Gertrude Jekyll and Vita Sackville West were doing. Anyhow, until later, cheers! Ralph in Ohio

[@antonio3x3x3]

A scholar & a gentleman. Thanks for this! I didn’t realize they’d switched the recommendation for what to use in the bottom of the pot. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I haven’t noticed any problems, but now I do have to wonder if The Country Parson (this year’s victim of my garden) suffered from this waterlogging issue. It was doing fine, then one day it drooped & the next day all the growth had fallen off. Sad days indeed. Silas Marner (planted in the same way, at the same time) is thriving, which makes me think it probably was waterlogged. My poor plants.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Joe. Rosariens have been using pebbles or stone for years and will continue to do so. It can work but if you KZbin it there are many reasons why especially novices should be careful because we can’t see the signs that the water table is rising. Water can get trapped inside. I know because I’ve done it also. The stones or pebbles need to be just right if the gaps are only small then water can’t escape. I may do another of these videos soon that is much better. Cheers mate

[@anorthfacinggarden9045]

Nicely explained.......the rose is full of buds 😍 was it an online order or picked up in person from the DA rose center.

[@Jay_Jay]

Thanks naffy.. I was very naughty and I ordered online. But it came good and this must be the 2nd flush minimum.

[@moonfiremagic777]

Hi, I am a real novice with roses, am in Cape Town, a Windy City and am trying to get the overwater vs underwater things sorted out. I watched this video and wondered how many holes are at the base of that pot? My rose is in a similar pot on very sandy soil, like your advise about drainage and am thinking of making more holes in the base.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi, there is only one smallish hole in the centre of this pot. (Maybe an inch) Ideally i’d have liked more. They are often insufficient in my humble. Since this video now I cut big holes in the base and turn them into “baseless pots” (if the pots are sitting on soil). This I very much recommend. The roots can go straight into the soil and you haven’t got to worry about drainage. Cutting or drilling pots is easy as I’m sure you’re aware I’ve done it on terracotta and porcelain type pots many times without a single issue. I have read recently when potting a rose the molecules in the soil change over time from having big gaps to small gaps hampering drainage further. So I see no issue with bigger holes at the bottom if yours are small like this one. But the polystyrene also works. So long as you’ve created those big airy gaps at the bottom. Good luck

[@Jay_Jay]

And if I could just add. When you water for the first time you don’t want to see water gush out straight away,.you want the pot to hold onto the water and soak it up for a little while first. As you continue to pour after say 60-90 seconds or more you should only then see the water gush out. A lot of this could be down to soil density. If the soil is way too loose you will see a flood of water too early. If you’ve cranked the soil down hard with you elbows and shoulder it will hold onto the water too long. Roses in pots I hear they need water and air to flourish so don’t have the soil too crammed and restrictive. Wrist and a little touch of forearm works well for me. Remember I’m no expert I am a novice but I have many roses in pots now and this is my experience. Thanks for dropping by.

[@gavinparry5426]

RD.......great choice haha

[@Jay_Jay]

Haha I have done an unboxing video of it you do get a mention. Not sure I’ll send it I’m not that into unboxing vids but it was another pre opened box! Looks great though thanks very much

[@dollyperry3020]

What size pot did you use? Its lovely :)

[@patrickbowen5398]

I'm just curious as to why the plant was put in the pot off-center. I've never seen that done before with potted roses. Also, the wood chippings --- my experience with using those is that it attracts fungus. Have you ever heard of or seen that before whilst using wood chippings? (PB from USA)

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi there. This rose was planted off centre to maximise space on a Pretty narrow pathway. I wanted it growing more to one side so it was a little less likely to snag people as they past even if it was only an extra 4” or so. I’ve actually also used this method on a few different roses because it’s easier to water without getting the foliage wet, feed say or replace mulch etc. having it planted to one side opens an area at the base of the Rose free from congestion or sharp thorns. But I see it won’t be for everyone all the time I get that. The wood chippings i don’t use on my garden anymore. I prefer a decent organic mulch that is quicker to break down and feed the soil beneath. But I have to say I didn’t notice any fungi with wood chipping. Thanks pb

[@mohdsohailkhan7519]

Sir you buried the bud union under the soil. Why. Will it not be the cause of fungus on the bud union. ??

[@Jay_Jay]

This is a question of hot debate. Many experts say the bud Union must remain above the soil for reasons you give. And I fully understand that. Especially in wet climates. If you notice whenever you purchase a rose from ANY breeder the bud Union is always above the soil. So I do get it. However the majority of Rose experts including David Austin are very clear, they state the bud Union goes beneath the soil when planting. This shelters the bud Union from cold temperatures and chilly wind. It also helps prevent root rock. Which one is correct is up for debate. It may be the case in spring and summer time it stays above and gets buried when mulching for winter time.

[@mohdsohailkhan7519]

@@Jay_Jay thank u sir. Got your point.

[@Jay_Jay]

The truth is often found somewhere in the middle but for time being at least I’m going with what David Austin say. 👍

[@dollyperry3020]

In cold climates we routinely burry the bud union two inches below the surface soil and then when it gets chilly add mulch. We sweep that aside in the spring.

[@sharonmccormack8504]

Jay jay, why did you set it off to one side .... is there a reason that I don’t know about?

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Sharon. Yes I offset this one because it was going close’ish to the garden path so I wanted it over to one side as it grew. You will of course manipulate growth when pruning under these circumstances but this has worked very well. It’s easier to mulch and water and I think with the offset it doesn’t look too bad at all.

[@sharonmccormack8504]

@@Jay_Jay Thank you Jay Jay, makes complete sense. Your roses are gorgeous and thanks for the follow ups. You’ve done a grand job too on your Mum’s garden 🌹

[@Jay_Jay]

@@sharonmccormack8504 bless you thanks Sharon and best of luck with your roses