I've never really understood why ginyu is considered low teir. Sure his combos can be hard to learn but if he gains momentum, VERY few people can stop him. I'm still trying to learn how to play him effectively, but he is a blast to play!
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
It's one of those things where there have always been way easier character choices in the game, so he's been looked at as not worth learning. But yes, he's incredibly good and incredibly fun!
@ikunomakoto99553 жыл бұрын
He's low tier because all the pro players are afraid of telling others how good he is because of how much Ginyu traumatized them online
@thenewmeta51392 жыл бұрын
Tbh I really feel putting him at bottom 3 is disingenuous to Ginyu. In my opinion, he is probably mid to almost high tier (no higher tho due to power creep)
@cafequente82522 жыл бұрын
As much as Ginyu is indeed a good character, there are some things that keep him down in most people's opinion: -Hard to learn; -Low damage output (aside for corner combos and highly optimized combos, which are very damaging); -Very gimmick reliable: without his gimmick, he's pretty bad when compared to other characters. This means that if your opponent finds a way around the GF and/or plays a character that makes it easier, you're in for a bad time; -No low 2L and second slowest 2M in the game (Terrible high-low mix); -Slightly above than average mix: the only good thing he has is that the force can cause visual noise, which makes it harder to see the mix, but aside from that, he can't do anything fancy.
@2001coolchemist2 жыл бұрын
Go1 (DBFZ's best player ever in my opinion) picked up Ginyu for a little while and the result was scary to opponents.
@AstralArchon3 жыл бұрын
Nice guide -- looking forward to the next one! Also, side note for his B assist for people who might want to use it - While it always follows the "S, 236S, 214S, S" pattern, you can shuffle around the order by using his S attack on point, so if you plan ahead, you can avoid using his B assist to call out something like the Recoome Bomber if you want. And if you play Ginyu point before switching out, you can set it up to get the Purple Comet attack all loaded up which is kind of insane for other characters to have as an assist. Kind of feels like playing with a loaded deck of cards. Ginyu plays super dirty -- I love it :D
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
thank you! and yes, Ginyu is a monster of possibilities! (which is why this guide was so long even after I cut several parts out xD)
@nimbus77273 жыл бұрын
I’m relatively new to traditional fighting games, and recently realized I either like grappler characters or mixup heavy characters. Ginyu seems difficult to learn, but I can’t wait for how much fun I’ll have after I get past that initial learning/execution curve!
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
can definitely vouch for how fun he is! Definitely worth sticking with him!
@cowboyoctopus27382 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte best part is that if you dont find Ginyu fun you can just switch with the oppopnent
@josephperez6167 Жыл бұрын
Just realized the order of the ginyu force is the order of their deaths💀
@terrealexander44423 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this guide. Cannot wait for the combo portion
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
i'll try not to keep you waiting long!
@phonebooksan3 жыл бұрын
Finally I'll know what the hell I'm supposed to do when I get body switched
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
hahaha, i'd recommend just avoiding that situation if you can!
@broly1059 Жыл бұрын
You missed 3 big details about Ginyu's B assist and body change 1. B assist also generates meter, ¼ bar the first time, ½ bar the second, and ¾ bar the third before repeating from the start 2. If Ginyu changes bodies with Ginyu, they can still use body change and call in members of the Ginyu force. 3. Swapping with Ginyu also gives you their cycle, so if the enemy Ginyu has Recoome as his next summon and you swap bodies, you will call out Recoome as your next summon. And despite how it would make sense, the Ginyu force members also change colors with the Ginyu, so if you're using color 01 and swap with color 02, all the members you summon will also use color 02.
@MisterAcolyte Жыл бұрын
Thank you for demonstrating once again that not everyone is meant to teach! Also your post is incredibly ironic, and honestly very funny. It seems you missed some very crucial details my friend. First of all, not only did I mention the meter build from ginyu B, but did you happen to take a look at when this guide was posted? The buffed meter build had not be implemented at the time of this guide. However I did make a follow up video that covers that information. Second this is a "how to play" guide. The purpose of this guide, as stated, is to teach people what they need to know to pick up this character. The intricate minutia of specific rules concerning swapping specific characters is absolutely not key information that someone needs in order to pick up this character. Once again, I made a separate video covering the ins and outs of body change, as it's a broad topic that I don't want bogging down a beginners guide that is already over 30 minutes long. I'd suggest you work on your own observation skills before deciding anyone else has "missed details".
@medium95292 жыл бұрын
I picked ginyu against a friend for fun and found him insanely fun so i have been looking for a guide, this has helped so far
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
hahaha love to hear it!
@Rinkerbro3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for showing the numpad notation image at the beginning. I just started playing and have had no idea what people meant by 2m and the likes
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
no problem! I'm glad it was helpful!
@yoshaanimation31923 жыл бұрын
I'd REALLY love to see more of these cause I'm confused by a lot of things even after playing for 3 years
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
planning to do some more guides soon!
@fireempire73423 жыл бұрын
Very situational information, but when you have B assist equipped and body change, it will force the opponent to use the A assist instead.
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
true! I actually recorded that information, but decided to cut it for time. Wanted to try and keep this under 30 minutes, but that proved to be impossible lol
@RacingSnails64 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Thank you.
@Sure_Bestie2 жыл бұрын
This might be one of (if not the) most down to earth, helpful and entertaining KZbinrs on the platform. Thanks for the video
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
wow thanks so much! that really means a lot!
@sehtuk3953 Жыл бұрын
What the hell, this long into the game's lifespan and it's only now I'm learning Ginyu's 5H is a low
@MisterAcolyte Жыл бұрын
lol! don't worry, I hit people with it every single day!
@henrybartholomew53833 жыл бұрын
So something I've gotten to work a few times, bearing mind that I'm a low skill player who plays against my low skill friends, is 214S Guldo, immediately vanish. Vanish kicks them into Guldo's attack, and you can follow with SD.
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Summon into vanish is pretty good in certain situations! I didn't put it in this guide because it is punishable if the opponent is ready for it. However recoome S ~ vanish and Jeiece S~Vanish can be very difficult to 2H even if you're ready!
@ThePika783 жыл бұрын
Me: *Sends guide to my friend* Friend: "Why you send me this? I don't play Ginyu" Me: "It's called...foreshadowing" Friend: "...oh god no"
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
lol what have I done
@Maag_973 жыл бұрын
Plot twist* I'm a ginyu main
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
they'll never see it see it coming
@politecat78663 жыл бұрын
yo,I just wanted to say that this guide is incredibly well made, probably the most concise and efficient dbfz guide i've ever seen. even though im ass at the game I think ur content is super underrated, keep up the amaizng work bro
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
wow thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
@KuraSourTakanHour3 жыл бұрын
Could you explain more about how Ginyu B assist works? Because sometimes the ginyu force come out with different moves, I get Recoomes Bomber instead of his beam, and purple comet starts instead of Jeices Ki blast. Is there a way to tell which one you will get?
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
sure. Ginyu B rotates an input pattern along with the summons. It will always follow the patter of S, 236S, 214S. This is why its hard to keep track of what will come next. It is manageable however, as long as you keep track of the input rotation in your head as you play.
@kcxsifer3 жыл бұрын
Amazing guide, I’m always on the fence about Ginyu but man you make it hard not to play him
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
hahaha thank you! And welcome to the squad!
@travonaqw3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte The force*
@Vohlfied2 жыл бұрын
I hated how the Ginyu force were all just different sprites in previous games, and I equally love how in this game it's Captain Ginyu, and the rest of the Force are his specials. I wanna main Ginyu and Frieze outta respect for the developers.
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
This is the all time greatest implementation of Ginyu, I really hope that all future games utilize him even half as well as this team has.
@melenudopoderoso89233 жыл бұрын
Great guide man! Didn't realize body change can counter raw lvl 3. Definetely trying that out. For anyone interested, I'd like to give two tips on Recoome's beam summon: - When summoned on the ground, microdash right after. This way it autopunishes if the opponent vanishes or if he hits you with a normal (they won't hit Recoome). Also DON'T JUMP! The ground is your safe, happy place. You are protected from almost all attacks and you can safely summon Burter if they dodge jumping, where Burter will get them. - Combo ender: if you don't have smash/sliding knockdown when finishing a combo in the air, do shoulder and cancel into Recoome beam. Ginyu mantains the momentum from the shoulder, propelling him forward. This way you land closer to the opponent and Recoome is left offscreen, almost impossible to hit. IMO this combo ender is even stronger than sliding/hard knockdown.
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Sageknot2 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this guide! your Ginyu plays are cool as hell and have inspired me to play Ginyu, and I'm glad i can get my info from the guy who made me want to play Ginyu in the first place. TY!
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much! I'm really glad it was helpful!
@Supermariosupervideo Жыл бұрын
You really have a video for everything I was just wondering how to play Ginyu. DBFZ goat
@Stacysonful3 жыл бұрын
I actually love the way you did this visual guide. Thank you so much for your hard work. :)
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it!
@bardockvegetable63773 жыл бұрын
TOKU SENTAI TOKU SENTAI TOKU SENTAI
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
YES SIR
@itsbarday2 жыл бұрын
I’ve lost to this ginyu 6 times now I want to play ginyu
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
lol you've come to the right place
@114bleachfan3 жыл бұрын
This is easily one of the best guides I've ever seen especially on such an obscure character I'm sorry you're not getting the views to repay that amount of work but I really appreciate it and if you ever feel like making more videos like this in the future I definitely would watch you should try Android 18 since she's like the only other character to my knowledge that has a little buddy like Ginyu
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm really happy that this guide can actually be helpful!
@114bleachfan3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte yeah I'm going to be real I'm not the best player when it comes to fighting games it's just very difficult for me to dedicate so much time into a game like fighting games but I still enjoy playing them but with a guide like this I actually had it usable information as you broke down literally so much information in a way they can actually be digested and used most guys I've seen with this basically very basic tips that only new players could really benefit from and then tell you to go practice for 40 hours with the character to maybe make them playable or mentions they have potential but doesn't showcase it... so the fact that you not only show usable combos but step-by-step on ways to Branch out into other things shows how much work in you put into your videos
@ITzAhhMehMardio3 жыл бұрын
i think a cool thing they could do with ginyu b is that is your hold back or forward you'll get the 214s and 236s calls respectively.
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! i've been saying that for so long lol wish they'd do it!
@Somebodycousin Жыл бұрын
What’s with the “invalid” frame at 14:23
@saiyandensetsux42 жыл бұрын
This is the video i was looking for, thank you Majin
@linkofthewild85813 жыл бұрын
Good guide i always thought that ginyu was a cool character but not sure how his s worked thanks for the guide
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm really happy to hear that!
@Tartus21 Жыл бұрын
Ginyu the secret Top Tier
@guidoizsucc Жыл бұрын
I ❤️ MAJIN ACOLYTE
@slordzlol87463 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much it helped me a lot
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
that's awesome! Really glad to hear that!
@AhmadKhan-fk9io3 жыл бұрын
Nice, are you ever gonna do like longer videos of full matches
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
yes! those are coming very soon! I plan to have a better balance in the future of Guides, Full Matches, and clips.
@AhmadKhan-fk9io3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte ive always loved playing unique characters like ginyu and zamasu so you really are a pleasure to watch
@mischa33433 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte Exciting!
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
@@AhmadKhan-fk9io wow thank you! that really means a lot!
@kingstaze96962 жыл бұрын
Me, new to traditional fighting games, trying to learn the most complex character in a relatively complex fighting game:
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
hahaha welcome! I hope this guide was helpful!
@byron61452 жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't have any consoles and barely played any fighting games, Ginyu is a B A N G E R.
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
hes the goat
@2001coolchemist2 жыл бұрын
My biggest beef with Ginyu's lv 3 is that you can almost never kill a sparking character if you end a combo with it or even hit it raw. even if that sparking opponent has what seems to be little health he will continue recovering health while being hit by the Ginyu force through the lv3 animation. I think it is the worst lv3 in the whole game in terms of killing the spark. Also, it is the secondary lv3 since it was added later into the game, so when I mash it during blocking I get a super dash by mistake many times lol. I wish body swap would be Ginyu's secondary lv3 since it's the one that's more rarely used.
@textbookmethods Жыл бұрын
His 5H is a low.... Ginyu time.
@EmpireToday28006 ай бұрын
SPECIAL SQUAD🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
@momol2l285 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if he had all of his summons available at any time
@MisterAcolyte Жыл бұрын
he'd be cracked lol
@milk-dq7fu Жыл бұрын
Jees
@TevinDavisSailorgainz183 жыл бұрын
Ok phew I’m gonna be in the lab with this one
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
it's time
@TevinDavisSailorgainz183 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte it’s a little rough but I’m having fun
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
@@TevinDavisSailorgainz18 im glad!
@Rico-Suave3 жыл бұрын
You did it! You crazy son of a b!tch, you did it. (That's a meme. I meant no disrespect toward you). Thank you for this masterpiece.
@theworstloser86963 жыл бұрын
Ayeee thank u
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
you're welcome! :D
@Oblevee3 жыл бұрын
Do you think you will make a zamasu s4 guide?
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
im planning to work on one after the ginyu guides are done!
@elbananitolokito Жыл бұрын
Hey aco nice vid but could you do a ginyu guide???
@MisterAcolyte Жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@parisatkins32 Жыл бұрын
Hey is this guide updated can’t remember if the last patch was within a year
@MisterAcolyte Жыл бұрын
yes! all this information still applies! the only difference is now his 5S is ki blast invul! everything else is the same!
@parisatkins32 Жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte oh okay cool I’m running him with baby since he’s one of my aces just trying find another character that I play that works with them both
@heskymarky3 жыл бұрын
Frieza next?
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
haha I did do a guide on all his new season 4 stuff!
@Wandle713 жыл бұрын
Ayo bro fork over the music list I'm jamming
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
hahaha it's the Marvel Vs Capcom OST!
@jeratozfgc61113 жыл бұрын
Ngl that intro went WAY too hard 👀😬😬 (loved the video!)
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad I finally got a chance to use it! lol
@papagoose012 жыл бұрын
Music?
@nekobutler77782 жыл бұрын
bg music?
@Aziruf3 жыл бұрын
I just love how they did Ginyu 😂
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
same! it's such a perfect playstyle for him! every game up till now just had him doing the shoulder and milk canon xD
@I_AM_BAYTOR3 жыл бұрын
Who is Jeese?
@Axeice3 жыл бұрын
I love Racoom s214 for 21 and z Broly players. It a huge big fk you to them and they can't do nothing 🤣 .
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
lol that man Recoom says "no."
@alumnodesmr40052 жыл бұрын
Me encantaría que hubieran subtítulos en español o la voz
@MisterAcolyte2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the suggestion! I'm not sure how to do that but i will try!
@Timeless56_No.256_a5 ай бұрын
GO GO POWER RANGERS--
@alberteinstein30003 жыл бұрын
sick pfp code geass is awesome
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My favorite Anime!
@wayt1minit3 жыл бұрын
Dang, frame perfect 'invalid'. Awesome guide
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@myssledissle3 жыл бұрын
You seem to have made a mistake, this guide is incomplete. You forgot to cover how to play every single character in the entire game. -2 video, unsubbed, unliked, reported, posted on myspace without credit
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
lol wow
@Axeice3 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️🍕
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
aaaaaay
@Axeice3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterAcolyte been loving your clips. I would love to play you in a long set with you too. My Ginyu definitely would love to learn more stuff from you.
@MisterAcolyte3 жыл бұрын
@@Axeice damn man i really appreciate that! I'm definitely down for some sets, that'd be awesome!