How to Play Gloomspite Gitz - Age of Sigmar Strategy Academy (OUTDATED)

[@2Tough]

Make one of these for the new FEC book (after it’s been out long enough to get some consensus), and I’d love to have you on 2+tough to chat about the faction and promote your channel. This was super helpful as I just snagged a bunch of gitz myself

[@rocomet]

I'm super happy to hear you enjoyed the video! I really appreciate the offer to collaborate, especially since I've really enjoyed your content (also I always get a good laugh out of your weekly warhammer video). Although, I can't make any promises yet about creating a FEC video yet, since I want to wait to see how the battletome shakes out, but I'd be happy to touch base sometime after their new battletome releases. If I do end up making a video I'd love to come on your channel to discuss the army, I've always liked their lore, and it's awesome to see the new models reflect the lore so well. Feel free to contact me through email: [e-mail]

[@derameisenbar]

You channel is great! Seriously trying to get into Age of Sigma is a bit tough. There are so many decisions to make and while there is content it is hard to find exactly the information needed. This video was exactly whast I needed! Keep them coming!

[@rocomet]

Glad you enjoyed, I try to make the kinds of videos that I would have wanted when starting out with the game

[@thekinginyellowhastur9244]

as a massive ogre fan im very surprised I like this army the most out of all destruction factions, very good video

[@expanddongerydoo34]

Hopefully one day Spiderfang Grots will be shown some love.

[@sibnova]

I have a full painted exclusively squig army but hearing about the amazing screens that stabbas can be has made me consider taking a unit to screen for my hero's. Thanks for opening my eyes.

[@CantusTropus]

Hey, thanks for this! It's very interesting to hear the specifics of how all this stuff works. I'm an older-school wargamer who lived through End Times, and thus started off with a poor opinion of Age of Sigmar. However, I've been trying to get over that bias and give it a fair shake in the last few years, so I decided to check out one of the armies that always captured my heart - namely Goblins! Separating them from Orcs was one of the few AoS decisions that I whole-heartedly agree with without reservation - they had a different character and deserved better than just being Orc cannon fodder (it's not like Orcs were lacking in cannon fodder of their own!). In fact, back in the day, running all-Goblin armies supported by Trolls, Giants, and Artillery was already a pretty common strategy, so really, making the Night Goblins their own faction was just making official something that was already being done.

[@strigoi_guhlqueen8355]

Hey, this is a welcome surprise. I have a friend that got into git’s and it will be very helpful for him.

[@raahhhhhhhh]

I know it isn't necessarily a popular army right now, but I'd love to see one of these videos for the Kruleboyz! Loving the content, keep up the good work!

[@jsauer30]

This was super helpful for me! Was trying to decide on an army to start fourth edition with and this helped me make my decision.

[@SeekerOf7ruth]

I thought I was going to like Orruks so much more, but I now understand why this army is so beloved from both the olden days and now. Looking forward to testing them out on TTS!

[@nerdistnewkid]

Best new player video I’ve seen in a while. I’m sure you get tons of requests like this but I’ve found very little information about hedonists of slaanesh if the faction interests you for a video. In any case, keep up these videos!

[@johnstewartmarketing]

I was hoping you’d make a video on Gitz! Gonna watch this tomorrow 🔥🔥🔥☺️

[@heiroftheredeemer2828]

I'm loving the video so far, and I will subscribe for more content. But man, I didn't know Kermit played Warhammer

[@beardyhat9547]

Just wanted to say, thanks so much for this video, super appreciate it. I've had my Gitz army, sitting on my floor, all in their original boxes for a year now and I've finally worked-up the motivation to build them. I don't really know what direction to go with them, but this is very helpful. I also appreciate how slowly you speak; it's very helpful for allowing me to really absorb the information you're putting out there, especially when I'm distracted (as I am with building). Lastly, I know you have polls, but I'd love to see this same thing for Nighthaunt, my first army. I know they're kind of bad right now, but even in spite of that I'm really struggling and frustrated with them, so I'd love some advice on what I could do to play them more competently.

[@James-vl2hh]

Your how to play is easy and fun to understand. Please do more army. Maybe Ogor Mawtribes next

[@dinklewinkal465]

I like the little lore bit in the begin

[@KenrickBlock]

Fantastic content. Congratulations on the 1K

[@MajorLeagueNerd]

This was a perfect video! I'm brand new to AoS, so thank you!

[@obeisancex6369]

Hey, just wanted to say this was pretty useful as a new GSG player.

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

Okay, so you just inspired me to turn my Grinkrak's Looncourt/Skragrott/Start collecting box into an army finally. 4th AoS army tbh, but that's fine. I've been going hard on Gloomspite lore lately so I'm primed for some weirdness. I'm gonna review your lists and brainstorm. I don't know if I want a tournament viable list, or an army strictly based on just whichever models I think are the coolest. Because I know I'm buying Trugg, those Manglersquiggs, and the Troggboss already anyways. (and the Loonshrine too, if just for display) But sick lists, they're a great place to start. Great vid, good stuff! Bout to check out your Skaven one next while doing my damndest to not commit to a 5th army.

[@smatta84]

how have i just now found your channel...this is ace

[@Kimtanashino]

This video is amazing in every way. Thank you so much for the work, you earned my sub !

[@Bluecho4]

The idea of the Bad Moon inflicting fungus onto people when its light shines makes me want an army of a completely different faction, that's covered in mushrooms. It would be a good nemesis army for a member of a play group who runs Gloomspite Gitz. Plus, I've been wanting to start a Turnip28 army that heavily leans on a mushroom theme. So this could apply to both.

[@rocomet]

I love the aesthetic of Turnip28, would definitely give it a go if I had people to play it with and the time to start playing another game system. I could totally see a cities of sigmar army fit that theme

[@brendengeines9908]

Love this format of video, you just got a subscriber

[@babblingbeastofnurgle]

YES MY NAME IS AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!!!! Love the vids and can't wait for the nurgle one! 😀

[@rocomet]

Nurgle is a super cool army, their rules have held up really well compared to most of the early 3rd edition battletomes. Plus the Rotmire Creed models look awesome, definitely one of my favorite units to come out of warcry.

[@vicenttheprince]

​@@rocometbeen dying to see you cover std

[@babblingbeastofnurgle]

Yeah! mine are sadly still grey plastic though @@rocomet

[@thedinofighter7938]

I’m getting into AOS and would LOVE if you’d make a video like this for cities of sigmar or the flesh eater courts. those are the armies i’m stuck between right now and your overview of their play style would really help me decide!

[@hitmonleespruce9868]

Amazing overview! I have always loved seeing your dissection of each faction, is the skaven overview video for the remaining subfactions coming up soon?

[@rocomet]

Yep, they are next on the list. I’ll be making one video to cover everything I haven’t talked about

[@reedfranco5392]

Great video man!

[@SirTimbo]

Dankhold troggoth double reinforced in the renown army is pretty good since you can stack alot of buffs on them/rally as well.

[@Jelle1880]

'If squigs aren't your style then may I introd...' No. Great video, definitely helped me build my list.

[@rocomet]

Since squigs are what got me into Age of Sigmar in the first place, I relate pretty hard

[@Jelle1880]

I wanted to check actually about your note with the Loonboss on Giant Cave Swuig. Wouldn't running him next to some Boingrot Bounders be pretty strong ? Allowing them to fight immediately after he has fought could be pretty brutal.

[@rocomet]

It would be fine at best, this effect is on a handful of different small heroes in different armies and most of the time it's just a cute bonus, but you wouldn't want to take the hero if it's all they did. The main issue is, if you plan on having it fight alongside some boingrots in succession, it could easily be argued you are just better off spending the points on reinforcing said boingrots an extra time. The larger Boingrot unit receives buffs better, you'll have less charges to worry about, and make make use of the 4+ rally better. If the Loonboss on Squig did something else or also buffed boingrots in some way, then maybe there would be case for him. If you like the model it's not awful, but it's not optimal.

[@Jelle1880]

@@rocomet Thanks for the reply. I only got him because I love the model but that would mean that 2/3 of my hero units (I also have the Rabble Rowza) are pretty much useless or OK at best :D

[@KalashDaCat]

Could you please make some "how to play" about not only aos but also 40k? Your presentation style is awesome!

[@rocomet]

Realistically, probably won't happen anytime soon. Age of Sigmar is already a huge game with a lot for one person to cover and 40k just quite isn't something I'm as interested in. I'm glad to hear you enjoy my videos though

[@KalashDaCat]

@@rocomet Oh, wait, so you plan on making a "how to play" for all aos armies? That's gonna be a huge time investment, and I'm sure it will end up being amazing. It'll be like a wahapedia for strategies!

[@Neocorey11]

What units are doing well in 4th edition since the new battletome? Also, great videos in general.

[@politikz8128]

They have such a nice range

[@QuantumOgre99]

Excellent advice Rocomet, I'm starting a Beastclaw Raiders army. What do you think about that?

[@Polishbojo]

Thanks for including that last list. I'm not a big fan of squigs or troggs tbh, so I was wondering if you could have a list be fun to play without them.

[@johnmakin-shaw3516]

Really useful video for new players like me. What would be a good 1k grot / squig list to start with?

[@alias-yv2ro]

HEY this video came in at the perfect time! I started AOS with the gloomspite gitz, and just finished painting last year's battleforce and both of the recent dawnbringer's set! I also just picked up Grinkrat's court. How would yall expand to a 2000 pt army from there?

[@harrybrass734]

Great video! Do you think there is a way to run a grott hoard list with 100+ grotts?

[@professorracc.9780]

Big fan of these videos. It would be cool if you could make guides for every faction but no one has 20+ armies so idk if that's practical

[@rocomet]

Eventually it would be nice to make a guide for every army, there are so many armies that lack up-to-date quality guides. Definitely something I'd like to do if I'm able

[@Nobleshield]

I'm looking at starting a Gitz army for AOS for a path to glory beginning next year, so glad I stumbled upon this! Must be the influence of Da Bad Moon that led me here. Also question, how can you do the conga line of squigs in that one example? Dont' they need to each be within 1" of two other models at that size, so you couldn't have them in a line like that?

[@rocomet]

They do have to follow that rule for coherency reasons, and you are right in that *most* units cannot string out like that. However, squig herd are pretty small and go on 25mm bases, and 25mm is slightly smaller than an inch. So you can string out units on 25mm bases as long on they are base-to-base with each other and they will stay in coherency.

[@Tortuga03]

Idk if their is a was that the point values change for the battle regiment but I did the math for the 2k point that you use and it adds up to 2050, not 1970. I just want to make sure that the point values are correct because I want to use this type of army

[@thomasdodd2548]

Relatively new to Warhammer and I'm building up my Gloom spite Gitz army. Love them and I'm playing against my friends this weekend, so this video is a huge help. Was just wondering though, doesn't the loonboss riding a cave squig allow a unit of Boingort Bounderz to attack immediately after him? Love the content keep up the good work!

[@rocomet]

Yes. The reason I call the unit un-optimal in my video is mostly because I don't think it's a very powerful effect to warrant bringing it if you are trying to build a really strong gitz list. At that point all he is doing is bring a little extra melee damage and if you want to do that, you are probably better off just reinforcing the Boingrot unit.

[@JunkyKreeg]

@@rocomet but but but he looks really cool :(

[@CantusTropus]

@@JunkyKreeg A very valid point

[@Kinhussar]

You're da best

[@ramzypost5541]

Will you also be doing forest goblins?

[@Bulbadane]

LETS GOOO GITZZZZZZZZ

[@plumpnoodle]

I think you skipped one of my favorite Moonclan spells, Itchy Nuisance. 18" range, CV 6, and applies the strike-last modifier to an enemy unit.

[@rocomet]

It’s in there. I talk about it right after Hand of Gork. It’s definitely a great spell

[@plumpnoodle]

Ahh yeah. I watched it once, then looked at my list while watching again and missed it. 👍

[@danielihuel6962]

Can we play the webspinner shaman on arachnarok spiders (Gloog's megamob list) to cross the scenery ?

[@Bread_and_Roses]

I would love stormcast;-;

[@davidhansson4399]

New to this. If I bring back a unit of 20 grots. Then come at 50% so then 10. Can i then use rally on the and possible bring back 10 more to their starting number of 20 ?

[@rocomet]

No, the replacement unit of 10 is a new unit and has no slain models in it yet. 10 is the new unit's starting number

[@heliosfabrication9892]

Please nurlge next!

[@leonschroder7791]

What is with Mollog?

[@nathanielholmes3587]

I can't find zarbags gitz or mollog's mob anywhere

[@rocomet]

Yeah, they were part of the game Warhammer Underworlds and GW stopped selling them a while back so they are pretty hard to collect nowadays sadly. It's a shame, since they are really nice looking models

[@totomen666]

"What if Goblinz divorced from Orcs"

[@X.davidWilliams]

Huzzah,, go Spiderfang! I know that they aren't the best I don't care. I don't play competitively and they freak some people out.

[@Zosh_]

No time code?

[@rocomet]

Should be added now!

[@Zosh_]

​@@rocomet Oh, I wasn't expecting that. Thank you that's very helpful.

[@babblingbeastofnurgle]

Da Gitz! for da bad moon!!!!

[@matthiashegerath4047]

Where is the part about how to beat them? 😂

[@rocomet]

Gloomspite Gitz just can't be beat, it's that simple :( But actually I just decided not to put it in the video, was for a few reasons but mostly that the video had already become the longest project I made at the time and I didn't want it to take up any more work. Although I did write the script for it, so I'll just leave it here. Although as a warning, some of it might need some tweaking, or have changed since I wrote it. "Now of course I know there will be a portion of the people watching who don’t even play gloomspite so this section will be devoted to what kind of effects and strategies tend to be especially potent against gloomspite gitz armies The biggest challenge for gloomspite that I’ve found is long range damage, and this is for a couple reasons, firstly gloomspite grot heroes are some of the most frail in the game, usually only having 4 or 5 wounds. So if your army has damage output that gets around look-out-sir notably mortal wounds from spells then make use of that. The other reason ranged damage can be problematic is it means that the opponent can often shoot at multiple different units, causing damage and killing models without having to engage. And if multiple gloomspite units take battleshock, inspiring presence won’t be enough to save them all and they will be hemorrhaging models. Shutting off commands is also extremely scary obviously because once again inspiring presence is really important, and the moonclan 4+ rally keeps the army pretty resilient, but also units like rockgut troggoths are very reliant on the troggboss giving them all-out-attack for the additional +1 attack bonus. Looking at the stats you can see that without the troggboss all-out attack, their damage output is close to halved. Which is debilitatingly bad for the gloomspite player. And on the squig side of things there are a couple things you should keep in mind, for boingrot bounders it’s mostly that they need to be charging to do any amount of meaningful damage, so out of anything in the army they are the most susceptible to attrition fights, they don’t have the bravery or damage to punch out of getting charged by a big block of 30 skeletons with their constant regeneration or 10 pink horrors with their -1 to hit effect and absurd amount of wounds. For squig herd, it’s important to know your options, like I mentioned before the squigboss just isn’t durable, if you are able to kill him off before he is able to hero phase move the squigs, that will at the very least keep the squigs off of you for a turn. But if you can’t and end up with 72 wounds worth of squigs in your face then you are going to want to play it smart. If the best option is to kill them, then you will want to aim to kill a little over half of them assuming your opponent doesn’t have the indomitable triumph, as on average for every squig you kill another will flee and you don’t want to put more resources into killing them than you absolutely have to since doing around 36 damage already isn’t a small feat. This also leads into my next point, don’t engage the squig herd unless you actually need to. If the opponent has a big block of squig herd on an objective backed up by grinkrak then it might just be worth ignoring that if possible since at minimum that’s going to be around 640 points worth of stuff devoted to a single objective, probably even more if they have other support pieces. You might just be better off using a screen to block a lane and find some other less guarded objective to get control of. Also with grinkrak, squig herd do about as much damage back as they will take so if you do fight them, expect to lose whatever unit you charged in, they probably aren’t going to survive the fight on death, the regular combat activation and then also the mortal wounds from fleeing. And because squig herd do regenerate there isn’t really any point in sending in some unit to fight unless it can actually take them down. You don’t want to lose a unit for no reason. Next is one that may be difficult to do depending on your army, but using the monstrous action smash to rubble on the loonshrine and destroying it gets rid of a lot of utility, so if you have a sneaky teleporting hero like a verminlord deceiver or a fast flying monster like a bloodthirster or a vengorian lord then this is a good way to knock them down a peg."

[@matthiashegerath4047]

You and the Rat man from warpfire Minis are officially my Top G's for Warhammer content. Thanks a Lot ❤️‍🔥

[@rocomet]

I have to agree, Jordan is absolutely a wonderful member of the skaven and overall AoS community

[@verruxlunox8438]

why are you speaking like kermit