How to play mid like Topson in 3k MMR

[@TankorSmash]

The constant comms is quality man, thanks for doing it. It's hard to talk while playing, but you're putting in the effort. Thanks for the upload.

[@duhagumrukcu]

I recently reached Top 5k EU following your tutorials, keep up the good work!

[@NoobofArchon]

congrats

[@Yoppppol]

BSJ really deserve to get million subs for this Thank you for educating us 3k players!!

[@MDK83]

We all know you're a herald bro... go back to watching Jenkins vids.

[@salejuniorr]

why you toxic sonofatard@@MDK83

[@Ульфсаарвоин]

BSJ seems to transform into a Role Model who is not scary, just a wise human… Really like it

[@denizz608]

Best quote of the video “Its just like the dating life you wanna keep your options open”

[@erichb4530]

THANK YOU for making lobbies and not smurfing in ranked. Educational without being unfair (even being exciting for willing participants). Bravo!

[@MDK83]

"Willing participants" means the experiment is a failure from the beginning. When they know they're playing with a higher MMR player in an experiment, their natural behavior changes... for the better or worse.

[@parham1023]

@MDK83 they don't which team has the smurf.

[@sgamerhd442]

@@parham1023 isn't it obvious in the first 10 minutes?

[@parham1023]

@@sgamerhd442 no not really

[@MDK83]

@@parham1023 it doesn't matter... they know there's a smurf... normal play is... I join a ranked game and play for MMR thinking all the players are around the same MMR level, doing the exact same thing.

[@alexanderericson8628]

he shows concepts of how to not lose your mid tower while you are ganking for your team. Technically you can do the same thing on puck qop spirits pretty much any hero you want that you consider mid tier.

[@buddy4768]

this kind of videos are really helpful. I've just tried primal for the first time and finished the game 20 0 20 , thanks for content

[@gabrielgarachico6602]

14:10 "its just like dating life, you wanna keep your option open" :D

[@animal10.05]

Very cool to see you play a different style than the typical BSJ carry, or even the tower pushing pos 5 I've seen you play. Also, wondering the bet you lost to Jenkins so you had to do most of the video in a valley girl voice?

[@ifprototypelq-84i10]

Patiently waitin' for a fight to explode on (yeah) You can stunt if you want and yo' ass'll get rolled on (it's bsj) And it feels like my laining been hot for so long (yeah) If you thinkin' I'ma fuckin' fall off, you're so wrong (it's bsj)

[@96Tapatio96]

Please make more vids for mid lane! I’m starving out here for mid videos

[@tyvain]

I would like to see you against a strong mid hero like od, void spirit... Cause I am pretty sure I would loose mid badly and get flammed

[@sunbro6998]

Nice just hearing your casual thoughts while playing.

[@acejay1]

What was Razor using to auto type runes spawning soon and that Roshan will respawn between (X - Y) ?

[@acejay1]

Copy pasting it in chat/ having one phrase typed in store search to copy paste from

[@lebleathan]

@@acejay1 nope I was the razor and thats not what I did

[@acejay1]

@@lebleathan give it up then?

[@lebleathan]

@@acejay1 I did but since there is link, the comment probably needs moderator approval. just look up dotacoach overwolf.

[@acejay1]

@@lebleathan ah thought so. My computer is too trash to have both open haha

[@sagepolyester4248]

bsj doesnt want to admit it but the educational smurf lobbies are the same as jenkin's spot the immortal lobbies

[@guydudemanson2551]

FART STUDIOS STILL IN IT! HYPE!

[@blurry9744]

the skins that razor and spectre used in this game, its not possible to get them anymore or, how would I get them otherwise?

[@nickpadgen2490]

Amazing content as usual BSJ, keep it up!

[@KingGibsy]

Dude said “it’s like dating life, you want to keep your options open”

[@joelmorrison3243]

the riki cloud bug is the most annoying thing in this patch.

[@marwanak10]

I'd like an educational smurf when you're a PA and both mid and offlane lose so hard that even when you go 10-1 at some point you still can't fight into them.

[@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891]

Some games are not winnable, and don't pick PA, lol

[@marwanak10]

@@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 It was vs a Spectre but spec went 5-0 in the first 10 minutes vs a Doom lol... Was almost killing her with half the farm but a couple of bad fights then it's over

[@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891]

@@marwanak10 as i said,some games are not winnable,and your Doom fucked up hard, or maybe your 4, how did he got dominated?

[@marwanak10]

@@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 who knows dude is was a while ago, I still have ptsd but don't remember details 😂 the mid laner also got stomped. Like you're saying some are just outta hand

[@robbierotten2024]

I was wondering if you might want to do a video on this topic. I think it’s obvious that meepo’s skills don’t fit the role that he is made for, that being a midlane carry. No BKB and being targeted means you have an awkward position to play in, which would be fine if you weren’t taking all your farm from your hard carry in the process. However, I think that if valve didn’t focus on trying to make him a carry, he could be altered to be a good offlaner. Having full map presence, a strong disable, and as a result can put out a ton of pressure on lanes and on enemy heroes as a set up for your teammates. Unfortunately, he isn’t balanced around this concept right now. If you were in full control of updating Meepo right now, what would you do to balance him around offlane play rather than mid lane play without removing his core concepts (clones, poof, probably net too)? This would have to be done such that it doesn’t make midlane meepo strong, but gives him a missing piece in his moveset either by replacing his passive or giving him a new shard ability or talent. I think he’s close to having a much more stable game as an offlaner if he was pushed that direction by a patch, as opposed to his weird and always low tier and awkward mid flash farm play style

[@robbierotten2024]

This is especially due to the fact that as an offlaner, he doesn’t have to worry so much about being focused down and killed as he’s just a support/ offlaner.

[@themaskedivy29]

Full map presence, strong disable, ton of pressure. Well.. we already have underlord that suit your description. Meepo scale with extremely well with lvl, you know, more lvl and poof~ his damage *2, a little bit more and poof~ *3 So nope - as long as his lvl is this important he will forever be a farmer with a priority of pos 1 or 2.

[@robbierotten2024]

@@themaskedivy29 that’s what I’m saying, currently he doesn’t work with his moves to fulfill that purpose. But if you exchanged maybe the lifestea for something else, and instead of focusing on stats you focused on pushing lanes and ganking he would be fairly unique. Yeah, underlord has a root and a global ult too, but they’re hardly the same. Underlord has to wait for his ult to be on cooldown, and it can only help him tp to a single spot and back (or his entire team). Meepo on the other hand could do the same thing but in 5 different spots at once. He could carry auras to increase his survivability and aid the team at the same time like every other 4, but gain more from it personally thanks to it applying to all meepo’s. He would need an ability or two to be changed, and a different aghs shard, but I think it could work. If you make it so that he’s not gold dependent as much as he is now, he can get plenty of xp pushing lanes. An ability to help him push lanes safer than he can now without helping mid would help him do that. Even if he’s not stellar or is outclassed in some aspects by underlord, it’s better than being in the role he is in now. Unless they can rework him to not be so feast or famine in whether he wins the game or tanks it to hell, he’s gonna stay a Smurf hero forever

[@robbierotten2024]

Plus he would be a way better gank hero than underlord, because he wouldn’t have to waste his ult to gank, and doesn’t need aghs scepter to make his ult a super good ganking tool like underlord. Don’t get me wrong, underlord is strong and so is his ult, especially when it has aghs for the root. But meepo is way more mobile and way more of a presence. He could ward enemy jungle, steal their farm, push lanes, and set up a gank at the same time with some alternate abilities

[@EKottaYT]

Razor using dota coach app, lol. I know it because im one of the community translator for it😅

[@EKottaYT]

Im saying in case if anyone was wandering about his messages in chat

[@auto1nfanticid3]

I feel like this is more of a guide on playing pos 3 from mid. I realize primal fits mid fine but from my experience most mids are either greedier farming heroes, or heroes like spirits that while they play active, are poor primary initiators. Its a good video I just think the information will be hard to use for alot of people's hero pools; would this play style be effective for anything other than melee strength heroes like tusk? I welcome input on this, I don't pretend to be better than BSJ.

[@appsenence9244]

They way he played the map can be played on any wave clear hero

[@mejfuz]

As a Huskar main, this isnt the best guide for me.

[@jasonmendoza1]

As a midlaner it is often good to look at what your team lacks, you can play tanky heroes, initiator heroes, squishy dps heroes, and those "in and out" heroes. It is good to have a pool that contains a few of each "catergory", and of course there are under categories, like midgame heroes, lategame heroes etc. If your teamcomp needs a primal beast, you should play that style in order to increase the chance for +25

[@maikoymokspg163]

contrary to popular belief, the concept of positions and lanes doesn't actually constrict you to what hero you play, but how that hero can contribute in the game that could be considered as that role. I believe that this meta is fun because of how you can use heroes that used to only be seen as one role or the other, but now can be used in multiple roles. Only problem of this is that the creativity is dampened by the community who are used to seeing the usual Safelsne Antimages and Midlaner Storms. While I do think that AM shouldn't be played support, I truly hope that alot of heroes can be played in multiple roles and should be more accepted in the community.

[@auto1nfanticid3]

@@maikoymokspg163 I agree with you, the hero diversity is part of what makes mid my favorite lane to play. Of course there's always support rikis and safelane linas, and everything under the sun when it comes to pubs, but midlane is the only position where almost every hero is viable in some scenario.

[@harambetoodles717]

Double Shiva work tho? Bc razor had Shiva as well

[@varungollapalli4388]

is this a reupload.? or dejavu?

[@matheo4934]

I love bsj. And ofc i love topson. I’m in herald and I’m just trying and learning.

[@daniellyness5180]

28:52 I've no idea how meepo works but does he have any business owning 2x Dragon Lance?

[@lebleathan]

Yes. Sometimes meepo even goes 5 dragon lances. Meepo is very stat dependent

[@The_Casual_Person]

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[@DemetryN]

Just most cost effective slot for combination of tempo agi+str gain Its kinda like 6 mangoes start. He will sell it later if game goes long enough

[@Colopty]

When you buy items on the main Meepo, the Meepo clones don't get their own copy of the item (except for boots) but they do get the stats. As such any item that gives stats is very good on Meepo since it gives 2-5x the value. Dragon lance is one of the most cost efficient items in the game in terms of stats, making it a popular mid game item on Meepo.

[@Б.Энхбат]

bsj bro do analyze TEAM BALD 97% throw game XD

[@ИванТорунов-м6о]

Why I got this video in my recommended after valves “smurf update” 😅

[@yep_yeppe]

the chat is so wholesome. while mine was chaos since picking heroes like offline mk and say fuck this game :)

[@kjyu]

If you hold alt, All Damage Received shows damage before reductions!

[@SkateFallen1424]

there is no such thing as a 3k meepo player. meepo players go directly from 200 mmr feeding idiots to 12k smurfs, there is no in between

[@UnoCholoLocco]

yes, playing against 3k mmr meepo.

[@yongjeonsa5906]

Good video!

[@sambutler9927]

Is it just me, or is BSJ question talking more than usual

[@winterboy7337]

he did to explain and educate others... and you for?

[@KlashLaker]

Is this Fartstudios vs 3kmmr?😂

[@ezwindota]

very good video

[@mattripodi6187]

good stuff.

[@armankhalilian8998]

I wonder why and how everybody on his and enemy team's name is 5?

[@jbsanagustin9333]

why the players name all 5?

[@lebleathan]

so that they dont know who is BSJ

[@ronelforgotten7416]

why all name is 5

[@hegemonic1930]

why skill Q fist vs meepo when E gives you extra dmg for last hit, you already lost the first range creep. go smurf in 1k pls

[@Ziche10]

Razor actually just using a script to post the rune times? Every 3 minutes, even if he's in the middle of a fight. He used it for rosh times too?

[@trashboat722]

y u put obs when the enemy is right in front of your face? u noob?

[@abdulnafay6733]

16:28

[@kristianstenerson2608]

meh, even in my bracket meepo mids lose espeically if they aren't smurfs

[@N1kura]

How do you win a game when 2 of your teammates (party) shadow amulet afk in base and 1 guy feeding because he didn't get the role he wanted? True 2v6

[@thegoodrelaxingmusic7093]

it dosn`t matter in sea server

[@enchanterxt]

this is below 1k in SEA

[@zAkkTF2]

👏

[@overwolf-mk6ox]

bro u noob af ...12:46 that move ahahhahah

[@KeppelChristine]

34616 Tremaine Bypass

[@ErteiAblaou]

COMMENT!!!!!!

[@BinkyBorky]

bsj I love your content, but ending every sentence! with an inflection of a higher note, so it sounds like a question is super annoying.

[@SavantAudiosurf]

This is what you said, Josh, 3 months ago: "Yeah but bsj... I drink heavily and have way too much sex while doing fun drugs. You said your favorite drug was PMA mine is mdma cocaine. Plus I'm older passed my prime like 20 years passed my prime old. I want to get back into dota but I fear that I will not be able to perform" So how about you shut up about BSJ's voice and get your life on track, you creepy ass weirdo.

[@parham1023]

From this 30 min video this is what you learned? You need therapy

[@WhitePerson-]

He is also repeating himself a lot, especially in the 10min videos just so he can advertise. Quantity over quality times. Our banana needs $$$

[@BrainGrapes]

He’s American. It’s what they do.

[@peterjordansonthe2nd731]

He's much better about it than the lil fella from Gameleap, that's for sure

[@l33tlee]

Support pleaseeee

[@charlin86]

Meepo is my main and it's sad to see such an underwhelming meep player.

[@lebleathan]

He had 120ms ping XD

[@lweismann5587]

First hehehehehehehehehehehe

[@appsenence9244]

Man please do this with 5k average so i can learn something. I would also be able to crush these 3ks

[@MooseRust]

I was the highest mmr player on dire team in this game and it was pretty much despair from the beginning, their team drafted and co-ordinated and we had 2 supports and 3 farming cores who just got walked on (literally lol). Would be interesting to see BSJ play more of a support role and point outmistakes rather than just crush 2ks with a snowball hero

[@scxizm]

The problem is 4k is literally already top 10% of the playerbase. It makes more sense for him to make videos for people below that.

[@ruadd4592]

I liked this format

[@Colopty]

@@MooseRust I do hope he covers all the roles eventually, so if we get support games in this series that would be good.