How to play repeated notes on the piano - Scarlatti Sonata in D minor K 141

[@Rog5446]

I heard Martha Argerich play this at the Proms about four years ago. It's one of her favourite Encores.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

We love her as well! Great pianist :)

[@raffaeledilallo213]

Her rendition is unparalleled!

[@scottweaverphotovideo]

I've noticed there are discrepancies between different editions of this sonata. The opening base chord as you show is common, but also the dissonant version of d-g-a-d. That's what Argerich plays and it captures the Spanish guitar sound Scarlatti seems to have gone after.

[@The12thSeahorse]

A really outstanding classical piano tutorial, describing a differcult piano piece, technique. Yeah, when you release off the notes make sure they are clean....and also even, which is the tough part I think.

[@struenlee4346]

Never knew Mark Hamil plays the piano

[@NoHomerS]

*Laughs in Joker*

[@santiagodaneyko4160]

I had just said the same when I read your comment 😂

[@Tmotiecius]

Scarlatti created 555 sonatas

[@00bean00]

And more

[@SimonPiano42]

about 555, that's the standard catalogue size. a sonata in G minor has been discovered recently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJapeZmwgLBsqpI www.e-musicmaestro.com/members/resources/view/308 (unfortunately, there does not seem to be public domain sheet music of it yet, Henle publishes it for example) if anyone knows of more discovered Scarlatti sonatas past these 556, i'd love to know.

[@ruperttmls7985]

Also sacred music and cantatas in Italy

[@marcussfebruary9104]

555 that we know of

[@Rog5446]

@@ruperttmls7985 I think that was his father, Alesandro.

[@alcyonecrucis]

That’s a nice interpretation! You say it works well on the piano- when one has such a strong judgment as you!

[@LouisEmery]

I make my fingers do "running in place." I got that from an early-grade piano book. I think this is what Bruce Lee below is talking about. I think "running in place" is a more visual way to explain the movement.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@WeeGrahamsaccount]

Thank you for the tutorial. I play this piece on both the harpsichord and the piano. As you mention it is very important to use the correct fingering as this is key to the phrasing and expression of the work. Personally I find 432123 more expressive than 321321. When I rehearse I sometimes play up or down the octave as it helps to refresh the feeling of the work. Many thanks.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

Glad you liked it, and thank you for your suggested alternative fingering. That may work as well. If you have any further questions for Robert, please, post them on his dedicated page: www.virtualsheetmusic.com/experts/robert/

[@davidrosenman1889]

Any suggestion on Practicing the Left-hand Chords? Thanks.

[@polyphoniac]

I find that alternating thumb and third finger takes less effort, is less fatiguing and is more conducive to speed. The slight degree of rotation that entails helps as well.

[@randmgenericname5077]

no

[@richlad2001]

I use fingers 432121 when playing this. Like you said, more fingers opens up more speed potential [paraphrase]. The 321321 fingering certainly works. Personal preference I guess.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

Eric Iverson Hi Eric - You can direct your questions or comments to our expert with the link in the description - Glad that you enjoy! Best of luck!

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@norarossetti2087]

Grazie Robert!!

[@charlottewhyte9804]

awsome thanks help my piano playing

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@billligon4005]

Is it a 'finger staccato' with 3 fingers?

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@d00mch1ld]

Some good tips. I prefer to start from the 4th finger for this piece.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@axelx4770]

Thanks but I think Argerich is a better authority on this than you.

[@tsabtsih]

im creeped out wtf is this 6:50

[@oooodaxteroooo]

tasos c. hahahahaha. a sublimina message :)

[@crimsonair8890]

tasos c. a glitch in the matrix 😶

[@js1.987]

Creeper

[@crimsonair8890]

awww man

[@bakuto.1055]

@@crimsonair8890 shut the fuck up :)

[@gonzaloruz1600]

Thank you this really helped me

[@virtualsheetmusic]

Great to know that! Be sure to check out all other videos by Robert on VSM: www.virtualsheetmusic.com/experts/robert/

[@EdwardFlores]

how to play em on the acoustic guitar using fingers ? could you do that video too?

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@EdwardFlores]

@@virtualsheetmusic it was more like a joke, cuz i cannot do it on the guitar... did not know that you guys read the comments XD!

[@crimsonair8890]

Does somebody know if it is physically possible to play this piece on an upright piano? I would appreciate a reply :)

[@whittomi]

You can, but the upright needs to be well regulated for fast repetition

[@giuseppetavella7341]

Is 432121 a good fingering?

[@graceabounds394]

Amazing! Thank you!!💜

[@virtualsheetmusic]

You're so welcome!

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

Czerny Op.740 Etude 7 And 35, Op.335 Etude 47

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@oooodaxteroooo]

PLEASE! the sheet music for the outro. omg, its such a beautiful improvisation! or is it?

[@virtualsheetmusic]

Yes, it's just an improvisation :) Glad you like it!

[@oooodaxteroooo]

Virtual Sheet Music the most part is figured out... lots of octaves you got from... forgot the name and the scales, if thats it i try playing a cocktail arpeggios. not fast enough. :) great stuff. greetings.

[@rodolfojns]

Thank you

[@virtualsheetmusic]

You're welcome!

[@C0nstellati0ns]

Thank you for this :)

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[@gunthermathiasbausellapiz5211]

2:46 Search your feelings. YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE!

[@brucewayne-cave]

Very nice, thank you.

[@nathanielouzana]

I wouldn't say the 321321 fingering is a good idea for this piece, it's contrasting the 3/8 time signature. I prefer doing 312121 for correct division and a little accentuation on the first 16th note.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@SimonPiano42]

312121 is nice and easy, but might get tiring for your fingers. Using 321321, you never alternate between two fingers. It's harder to play evenly and release the keys on time, at least for me, but i think with practice and for high tempi it's the best fingering. (432121 is interesting, but cramped for space, it's easy to miss the key with the fourth finger) Argerich seemed to use 321321, as you can see in this video at 29 seconds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZmciIttibCZoas Also, i don't think the time signature is very important to the alternations. You can't control too much detail like accenting the beats in a somewhat fast tempo, and in this piece the first beat is the most important anyways, i'm not even sure 2 and 3 should be accentuated. See how Scarlatti starts the piece with rests on beat 2 and 3 in the left hand. Maybe if you're using a moderate tempo like in this video at 0:54 or even slower, you can do something with the rhythm using your fingering. But not even anywhere near Argerich's tempo.

[@TheRobTV]

KZbin pianist paul barton does the fingering 432121.

[@axelx4770]

Comparing Argerich to Barton is like comparing a diamond to a piece of granite

[@ytyt3922]

Axel X wow what do you have against Paul Barton? Just insulting for sake of it? He’s a brilliant pianist, and can play this sonata almost as fast as Argerich.

[@ruperttmls7985]

Hi Robert, what about the "double escapement action" on grand piano? This Sonata could be played on upright piano? Excuse my bad english please.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@anthonyb2745]

It can be. But be prepared for many hours of practice because it’s a much more difficult technique on the upright. The biggest difficulty isn’t in speed; it is in uniformity.

[@modernmozart813]

Thanks

[@RicAbapo]

Thousands? Didn't he just write 555 sonatas?? Can anyone point me where to find the other 500+ works? Thank you!

[@SimonPiano42]

yes, the standard catalogues go to 555, though there have been a few more discovered recently (like the one in G minor). It's definitely not over 1000, that was a mistake.

[@ruperttmls7985]

Hmmm... what about his arias, sacred music and cantatas in Italy?

[@ytyt3922]

He was mistaken. It’s only around 555, as you stated.

[@tommyguest1520]

what is the name of the intro peice?

[@virtualsheetmusic]

It has no name. Just an improvised piece by Robert Estrin.

[@user-nikolial2c]

Это ты играешь? А что сверху съёмка? Не видно того кто играет.

[@danielmartipulido2161]

! Que fiera !

[@88tongued]

What about 432132 vs 321321?

[@virtualsheetmusic]

Please ask your questions on Robert's page on our website here so he can answer: www.virtualsheetmusic.com/experts/robert/repeated-notes/

[@TheCajonGuy-dh7yc]

Tip: don't pluck the keys, slide your finger towards the end of the key and the most popular types of finger for k141 is 4-3-2-1-2-1, thank me later..

[@tandavid9016]

You also need a good piano with good action in order to play this works if your piano is lousy than is impossible to play this with sticky keys 🎹

[@GuitarraErudita]

U cant speed it up because when u play finger 1 u lift and strait the other fingers. I dont know how many years u spent training wrong like that. Its like u choosed to lift and strait your middle finger when u use the thumb to get more power, but this is wrong for the goal. Or worse: the person learns to strait a finger to reach notes on fingering changes and carry that forever. The best way to solve this is to use the technique from the period 'técnica miúda' (sry i dont know the name in eng). Even playing a modern piano u should use the 'closed hand' technique and do never lift or strait a finger to get more power, this is an ilusion and builds a limiter to the speed plus much more process to the brain (unecessary process). I'm talking only about the repeated notes, ok. Watch Agerich playing, she uses the 'técnica miúda'.

[@fabr2863]

K. 141

[@JFroTheMusician]

IMO, Piano makes this piece too muffled and makes dynamics more of a challenge to perform.

[@virtualsheetmusic]

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[@freakmusic4009]

How he is an expert? If so why he cant play?

[@alejocc1262]

I can play it with one finger but i get out too fast haha

[@petercrowley1289]

He talks a lot of sense

[@philipbenhardb.velasco369]

For a moment there I thought it was Mark Hamil

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

The composer’s name is ‘Scarlatti’, not ‘Scarladdi’.

[@alejandrom.4680]

Elaine Blackhurst english my friend, all people says "Handel" or "Hendel" instead of "Hundel" (truth pronunciation of the name)

[@SimonPiano42]

@Elaine using foreign (original) pronunciation in another language takes a lot of effort. "Scarladdi" is a natural american pronunciation. If you want to pronounce the composer's name correctly at all cost, you should probably also use italian intonation, and that can be awkward and tiring. @Deonix: the original german pronunciation is "Henndel" (of his german name Händel), though his briticized name "Handel" was probably pronounced "Hundel" in England as you say.

[@alejandrom.4680]

Simon Piano Oh, i didn't know that, i was thinking the name was pronunced like "hundel". Thx for corrections.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Simon Piano You’re right about the original German pronunciation of his name; when Handel (sic) moved to London and became a British subject/citizen, the umlaut on his name was dropped - all extant copies of his signature are in the anglicised form - and he was universally known by the new anglicised pronunciation which was in effect a phonetic pronunciation of the English spelling. The comments referring to a ‘Hundel’ pronunciation are utter nonsense. Scarlatti is an Italian name; the point I made is about pronunciation, not accent. Brits and Americans are notoriously bad at mangling most European languages and in this case, substituting ‘d’s for ‘t’s is not on. Americans are perfectly capable of pronouncing the letter ‘t’ in some English words, and it is especially important to do so when it needs to be applied to foreign words. ‘Scarladdi’ is as lazy and incorrect as it is ugly, and it is a grotesque mutilation of a beautiful Italian name.

[@tunca9709]

Piano expert? You mean “virtuoso”?

[@virtualsheetmusic]

Yeah, music teacher, whatever you like to call him :)

[@tunca9709]

Lol I’m 17 and looking back at my old comments 😂, sorry!

[@tunca9709]

Try fingerings 4-3-2-1-4-3-2-1..., that also works;)

[@retf054ewte3]

actually he doesn't play it right...

[@aurelianepuras]

You can play with 4 3 2 1 2 1

[@curaticac5391]

What is the poster selling? Thought he was a salesman. For a good rendition of this piece, listen to Martha Argerich.

[@antroflux8969]

Play Sideways XD

[@piano484]

yikes... only played maybe half

[@akifaliyev1886]

Too fast for you

[@miamonteverdi]

4-3-2-1-2-1 is better than 3-2-1-3-2-1 for this piece.

[@mantictac]

You play too fast.

[@penguin3298]

Is this a video for babies? Sorry I got into this wrong classroom

[@penguin3298]

@Ener - uh why?

[@penguin3298]

@Ener - yeah the technique is hard but he can't do it properly and nicely so what's the point making this stupid video