How to play Shogi(将棋) -Lesson#12- Skewer and Discovery

[@HIDETCHI]

Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you like this game. Right. Anticipating the dropping pieces is quite tough. :-)

[@Gerstein1]

I love this game!! I don't know where I can find a cheap set, so I use two sets of chess pieces that look somewhat different. Pawns=pawns, Bishop=bishop Rook=Rook Different rook= lance Knight=Knight Different bishop= silver general , Queens= Gold General King=king. A backgamon chip below the piece meens it's promoted, and a chip behind it tells you which color it's really playing for if you drop it. You play on the corners, just like in Go, so it's a 9x9 board. If you have two sets, try it!!!

[@noobita4983]

Brilliant!

[@KarenSDR]

On boardgamegeek there's a post about using a Scrabble set as a Shogi set.

[@Yo5463]

Before I could buy my own set, I just drew the board and cut the pieces out of paper. It works well until you sigh too hard from thinking and the pieces go flying. It took me under an hour to make one so all of my friends who sat through the basics got one. Although I suck at Japanese cursive so I just wrote 成香 for the promoted lance, for example

[@lisyaron]

At 5:24, it is probably better for King takes after knight checks. Opponent can then recapture after lance captures rook. Thanks for a great tutorial :)

[@OneWeirdDude]

In the 5:15 example, White should use the king instead of the pawn to take the lance. It doesn't change the solution, but it might in similar situations, and White at least gets to soften the blow.

[@HIDETCHI]

Thanks for your comment. If you make a check with Bishop to 8e, White will just block it by Pawn drop to 7d.

[@HIDETCHI]

Yes, because he can recapture the promoted Lance. I just wanted to demonstrate you can take the Rook by discovery attack anyway.

[@cdoggie]

Hello. I am learning this game, and love your videos! I did have one question though. At about the 9:16 mark, when we are trying to capture the dragon the second time, couldn't we just put the king in check with the bishop, and take the dragon? By moving it up, left 1? Or is it done a different way to help win the game? Thanks. GREAT VIDEOS!!!

[@hirohiigo]

@OneWeirdDude In abbreviated situations like this, you don't know if in a real game sente would have more pieces in hand. Usually it's a bad idea to move your king closer to the attack, so in this case in a real game, taking with a pawn was better.

[@YosoyAlpharius]

muchas gracias por las lecciones, hace tiempo no jugaba shogi, es bueno volver.

[@HIDETCHI]

It doesn't matter, though it's more polite to put it unpromoted. It will anyway be placed unpromoted when it's dropped.

[@hanafuda4832]

So a skewer doesn't count if the attacking piece gets counter-attacked? Having a pawn behind a long-range piece still counts as a skewer.

[@hanafuda4832]

At 1:20 wouldn't it be better to drop the Lance behind the Pawn instead doing the skewer? You'll end up with your Lance supporting Gold's attack against the opponent's King piece.

[@hirohiigo]

@borha300 Look more carefully. The bishop is now defending the gold, so your attack has failed. You can take the gold, but trading a rook for a gold is a material loss.

[@selcukcan836]

at 9:17, isn't bishop to 5h an easier way to capture the dragon?

[@HIDETCHI]

Hi. Hmmm, Droping gold at 5c is also good, but opponent's dragon will escape to 1b or 2b. I didn't know about shogidokoro. I looked it up in the web and found it. It's looks great. Thanks for telling me.

[@hoodedraider]

haha ye i figured that out later.. was counting 4 from the left side instead of the right O.o anyway since Im typing anyway.. thanks for answering my questions in other vids aswell.. and ofcourse a huuuge thanks for posting these super well explained tutorials

[@hirohiigo]

@luboSVK Gote will drop his pawn to 7d, blocking the check and the attack on the dragon. It's a good idea, but promoting the bishop to give a threatmate is the only move in this position.

[@hirohiigo]

@Bean123forjoem Yes, 2b still works, and so does 1a.

[@iLuvHinata360]

brilliant skewers and discoveries ^^. This definitely opened my mind to efficient moves ^^! Hidetchi sensei Arigatai desu, domo arigatö gozaimasu!

[@TavartDukod]

Can White just move gold to 4e at 3:20?

[@flordapimenta7559]

obrigado pela tradução koshiro sam! poderia traduzir os demais tambem? seria otimo!

[@robertwegner8962]

Is it generally advisable to exchange a lance and a knight for a rook?

[@MXdetty]

yea i like these pices too where didi you get them from ore more important where is the board from?

[@HIDETCHI]

Of course. At least the professional players can all play blind shogi.

[@hoodedraider]

I'm kinda new to this game. but could you explain how white couldve saved both at 3:31 ? Coz moving gold to 4E would still leave the king in check

[@cdoggie]

Ohhh. That makes sense. Thanks!

[@eien7228]

love this

[@zhumanchuie]

Why did you use the dragon king for the opponent in the exercise?

[@gokharol]

this looks so smart! :D

[@ValkyRiver]

1:01 "This is not a skewer" It is a skewer, just not an effective one (since it can be taken)

[@PedroLTQ]

Ouch, at 1:33 the bishop can move to 5e so it's not a Skewer, right?? (or not, why not..)

[@HIDETCHI]

Gold to 4e blocks the check.

[@hirohiigo]

It's a skewer, because the rook can take the gold after the bishop moves.

[@arquimediscurtidasilva1085]

Didnt get how the mate worked on 7:14, White could just block the rook with his own rook

[@glendaal67]

I thought that at first too, but it's not a rook, it's knight, and unless white has piece to drop (which seems white doesn't) it's a mate

[@Fynov]

at 1:44 it doeas work u just get the other 1

[@MagicksMage]

I laughed when you said "swapped" ^-^

[@WARFOUYN]

thk ;)

[@NaturalGroundation]

@NaturalGroundation Nevermind... and this is why it is a Dragon king LOL... Now if it was a regular rook my plan would have worked HAHAHA

[@FoodPunch]

I cant find any shogi sets in singapore D: playing with the computer sucks, i keep losing... I wanna challenge my dad instead... :/

[@szecr]

Lol

[@vendeghaj]

Ez nem igazságos! Itt megint a magyarok ellen szól, hogy nem fordították tovább le a nyelvünkön! Ez hátrányos számunkra. Miért akarnak minket magyarokat mindenhonnét elnyomni? Reménykedtem, az összes rész le lesz fordítva!