How to Play Your Small Pocket Pairs at the Micros

[@BlackRain79Poker]

How do you play small pocket pairs? Also, check out my latest video with my 5 simple tips to start finally winning consistently at poker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4e6oaKwipJmd5o

[@ditaalin76]

Pls, can u write me your blog? Thanks... And... About The hand.... Weak bet on The river.... Then... Pot comitted...

[@paulthompson9668]

BlackRain79Poker I would have gone all in after the turn. Mathematically the best play in the long run.

[@leftisrightNL]

Most important decisions in poker are river decisions. Just because there's already a lot of money in the middle and a call or a fold in these situations can make the difference of multiple hours of grinding to make up for it. This is why this is a very valuable analysis and one of the best ones on this channel in my opinion. The reason why many players prefer to make a bet here instead of check-call or check-fold is pure psychology: They want to keep initiative to avoid facing a bluff. So the fear of facing a difficult decision makes them bet, when betting on the river here is clearly not the most optimal action. Being passive on the river is on several occasions a much better play than just betting out, and this is one of these examples. Great analysis!

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Thanks Left I am glad this video helped!

[@leftisrightNL]

@Trius No. Just calling is better here because there was no flush draw on the flop yet.

[@TheNekruss]

That's why sometimes I did press all-in after the flop when I saw a set and was satisfied with all the guys folding))

[@nonegiven]

Thanks! I didn't 3 bet this time but I normally would against most players. I figured if I missed it would be a lot harder to push him off the hand so thought call/fold was a better play vs this player. The river analysis is very interesting and is probably why my blue line goes down while my red goes up... Makes sense now you've said it. Thank you.

[@connman8d617]

This is every single hand I play in low stakes. Donks making donk calls and laying way more than the right odds to chase their draws....except the river is just neeeeeeeeeeeeeever some harmless 2 of clubs or something. That Queen of diamonds was 100% the worst card in the deck.

[@elwinvanwees8516]

Someone’s been in the lab 😁 I like your explanation of balancing your range better then Doug’s tho! Also really happy you stopped explaining HUD every vid and refer to the link! Great analysis! Welcome back!

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Thanks Elwin! Nothing much scientific about how I try to balance but I am glad it made sense. I agree with the HUD stuff, just referring to the link.

[@sumitkhosla4205]

Hello Nathan,just a quick question When I usually get into these spots,I tend to jam right on the turn to let villain pay a heavy price to complete his draws,what do you think ? Is that a good play or should I continue value betting till river depending on the board ?

[@vincenttupper1765]

at these stakes i think flating is fine in this situation, i would fold imo i play a pretty tight game unless there was another caller in this pot.. 3 betting if they call and a lot of the times they will, it can just lead to more issues on the flop.. he has a hand in, which etheir he hits, or does not. When he doesn't it turns into a bluff, and when he does it doesn't guarantee he gets paid off... I'll rather just play it much closer to the vest at this level... btw loved your explanation on the river why you hated the bet and how you want the villain to bluff off there bad hands, if your going to showdown get more hands that pay you off... ty for that , awesome advice!

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Thank you sir, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@MultiNekta]

Q: For those who using HM2 HUD are you turn on the "session stats" in options for regular tables or not? I'm wondering...

[@johncochran5852]

Great vids man. I'd say I wish you had more viewers b/c you deserve it, but I don't want people getting their hands on this ocntent!

[@pokergeniusordonkey6517]

When hero just flats pre-flop for the set mine. I might prefer the donk bet. This lag might think the the donk bet is nonsense and raise his drawing hands, and hero can jam the flop.

[@fundiver198]

Yeah a donk bet could be a creative way to mix it up and induce mistakes. Especially if you go for a weird size like 12c into the 32c pot. Then he might think, this does not look like a real hand, and raise with a wide variety of holdings. This might especially work, if you have no history with him, so that he might think, you are some sort of idiot fish. If on the other hand he know, you are a good player, and dont normally donk, it could send alarm bells running through his head and allow him to play a bit to perfect.

[@paulwevers2109]

And i watch the end. Blackrain is now a hero thinker to me lol.

[@fundiver198]

Nice to see you back Nathan. Missed my weekly fix ha ha. But of course everyone need a vacation, so totally cool with the break. As for the hand I am not saying, I got this right, and I have not done any sort of scientific work on the subject, but I dont like 3-betting baby pairs and even less so out of position. The reason is, that in my opinion the hand type just perform so poorly in a 3-bet pot, when we get action. You mention C-betting the flop, but is a good LAG folding that much to flop C-bets in a resteal pot, when he have position, and he know, you are probably 3-betting him light? Say we had 33 and missed, and he float with AQ or KQ. Sure we are somewhat ahead equity wise, but unless we spike our 2-outer on the turn, we kind of have to check-fold, if he even breathes on the pot on the turn or river. Typically I will call in a spot like this, but if I am honest, I am not sure, I am making a profit. Sure we are getting a great price investing only 10c, but if we are only setmining, we need to win 80c, when we hit, and the LAG has such a wide range, that he certainly wont pay us even 2 streets every single time. So to be honest this is a spot, where I am not really able to come up with a plan, which I am sure is profitable. So actually is there really that much wrong with just folding and getting rid of the spot preflop? I would love to hear your opinion about that. As played I love the flop and turn lines, but I hate the river bet. Its one of those, where sure we smashed the flop as hard, as we could. But the board ran out as bad, as it could. So the best line of action is to just accept, what happened, check the river and hope, he check behind or make a sizing mistake. If he jam, I think, we should check-fold. Unless he is a moron, he is not valuebetting two pair, and what is he bluffing with, when everything got there in the end?

[@BlackRain79Poker]

I am back now for sure haha. But probably just once a week. It was a bit too much with my blog, pokernews articles and trying to play some actual poker myself! lol Thanks for your thoughts on this hand. I definitely think the river is interesting. I think if we check the river a lot of bad players at these limits will make some silly bluff of half pot that I am fine calling. Tight reg bets though, I am folding.

[@igorcapuzzo5890]

according to my little experience I believe he was right to bet especially against a particularly aggressive opponent as can be seen from the HUD statistics, perhaps the size could have been around half pot but a check call would have been the worst choice also because we would have shown weakness. Furthermore, by doing this, our HERO would have been able to demonstrate that he was able to close the FLUSH so that the opponent instead of RERAISE would simply CALL. Congratulations anyway for the excellent work done

[@paulwevers2109]

When you play nl2 or nl5 each day you will get a feel for how regs play there. Like said here , the mixing up is very low with them. Its pretty easy to read these people. Lot of them have vip`s of 15 to 20. They play tight. Always the same raises, lot of them even have the leak that they cbet half pot when missed and bet higher when hit or already made hands. Sometimes you get this feeling that the guy in a situation like here has a range of raising AK AQ all big pairs and limp their smaller pairs. If you use a hud like pokertracker you can just hover over the stats and see some of his ranges. My point? If the situation comes that this is such a reg and the flop is like this here and he cbets i would prefer to just call. Its not a dangerous flop for your hand, he would need runner runner to get you. If you raise a tight reg on this flop AK AQ is gone. I want him to hit. I want him to think he has the best hand. This kind of poker goes a bit against the mantra of always getting the pot to grow so 3bet , raise bigger even when you dont have to protect your hand like in this case here at this flop. I tend to see i get more money in these days of regs playing it more with mindgames then aggressively trying to build that pot up in situations like this. You still awake after reading this? Good concentration. Good for poker to. But what do i know? I guess my thinking is way off vs people like Blackrain here. I was just writing down a specific situation as it went trough my mind after seeing just the preflop action and the flop.... Now im gonna watch the rest. Goodluck at the tables!

[@itsLeoAngelol]

When playing against a villain, i hate a board that has 4 to anything i.e. 4 to a flush or 4 to a straight. Almost always, the opposing player has the goods. Instead of leading out for around 70% of the pot at the turn, would it have been better to shove on the turn and put as much pressure on the villain to chase that straight? I mean villain had a deep stack so he may have just called it down but I don't know.

[@Pumalate77]

Jamming turn is not a bad idea at all

[@elproto1146]

I think overpot turn its the best choice, cause only nuts is gona call or color draws ACE high. If they dont hit straight at river you approach the most.

[@lutherwallingford4773]

Been giving Poker more and more attention (play money) and this video just made so many things clicked for me.

[@metagrinder3989]

I like a blocking bet more than a check. Any raise makes it an easy fold, any bet he makes when checked to puts you in a tough decision when he puts 2/3rds pot. With a 1.0 AF, really you only have a bluff catcher with bottom set. Idk, just my two cents.

[@fundiver198]

The problem with blocker betting is, it lose us money, when we fold to a jam, and we don’t even get to see a showdown. It also takes away the chance for him to go for thin value himself with something like KQ or KJ. So I much prefer to check. If he jam, we can fold without loosing any more, and if he bet something like 1/3 pot, I think, we are good often enough to justify a crying call. But really I am mostly hoping, he check behind and show us something, we beat.

[@metagrinder3989]

But is the guy with a 1.0 AF really jamming anything we can beat? Honestly Im surprised he raised with a T on the end. I don't see him thin valuing KQ or KJ, although I'd like to see more of specific stats. He's not a station but he's only aggro pre flop. If he's betting 1/3 pot then yes check/calling is correct. But most players are going to bet 1/2 -2/3 ud==if they are mixing in their bluff and value hands well. If we bet 1/3 we save ourselves some money because he really can't raise. The problem with this hand is the stack sizes are awkward at the end. If he had more behind a blocker bet would make much more sense but when hero bets 80% of his stack, villain is always going to jam straights or better.

[@fundiver198]

Because of the stack size issue, I think, he is either jamming the river or betting really small. If he bet like 2/3 pot, he put himself in the same awful spot, which Hero did. As I said, I don’t think, we have enough equity to call a jam, and that would also include a 2/3 sized bet, which is nearly the same as a jam. So I would only call a small bet, partly because of the price, and partly because I think, it could sometimes be a bad value bet with a hand, I beat. We are kind of on the same line here, the only difference being, you assume, he is more likely to make a bad call with KQ, and I assume, he is more likely to make a bad value bet if checked to.

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Ya I think a blocking bet works too, just needs to be a lot smaller. I might even go 40% or 30% pot to get crying calls out of top pair and all the two pair hands.

[@vlad1mir100here]

Thanks, Nathan! Exactly that case when math says that I have 2 show the best hand in 10% times, but on average I will have the nuts here in 0% times. The latter reason should always be taken prior.

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Glad this video helped you Vladimir, thanks for watching!

[@MrBlack-wt5er]

This is why I go all in to protect my hand if the board ever starts to look dangerous, sometimes I'm wrong and I run into a set or maybe I run into a brick wall with someone slow playing aces and I flopped a king but I don't get sucked out nearly as much as players who go through this all the time letting one danger card after the next come down and it happens a lot in my experience if I just bet in such a way to keep the other player in the hand, anyway going all in a lot looks like a bluff so if anyone notices your all in all the time they are not going to know that you had a big hand they are probably got to think "you stole the hand" or stole one hand after the next so that will set you up to win big hands with marginal hand calls like middle pair......

[@KC-qi8sm]

I have a question How do you play this hand if you 3 bet it preflop to like 40 cents and he calls. What Would you do if you Miss the flop? cbet it ? And gove up on the turn ?

[@KC-qi8sm]

Or bet turn and give up on the river ?

[@TheUla287]

Does anyone know which websites does he play poker?

[@truemiller_crypto]

Problem came with the river bet, he called hero down the entire way, then when the fear card comes in, hero spazzes and tries to get value from set when facing straight and flush draw. Villan has a low aggression factor, best play imo is small bet for villains "easy fold" or check it, and read villains aggression considering his low AF.

[@thewisecanary9664]

I you 3 bet pre flop here what do you think is the correct sizing ?

[@BlackRain79Poker]

I think villain's 3bet sizing preflop is fine. Sometimes I go a bit higher at NL2.

[@VaultTecc]

Another possibility for villain 3 to raise the river is tilt. Then again he would probably have to have bullets specifically.

[@ygg9888]

Hey Nathan, just sent you the FB request to join your forum. Any idea how to efficiently detect coolers (KK vs AA, etc) in micros and in general? I got to do something about that lol...

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Hey YG, I have a video on that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZbNcpJ7etSlZ9E

[@shivasirons6159]

The real question is if hero checks river does he then call V bet\ shove?

[@Dariusknight]

This hand really exemplifies why small pocket pairs are hard to play OOP. I think a 3-bet PF would have made it a lot easier to play post-flop, I also disagree with Nathan on the check raise on the flop, I think check-calling and exercising pot control at least until the turn when the Kd comes giving more draws and then check-raising would have worked a lot better. Even just check-calling all the way down would be fine too. I also think effective stack sizes come into play here, villain has almost 200 BB and the hand is at 100 BB effective and so therefore this hand should have been treated as if we are playing short stacked and therefore be a little more cautious in how we approach things. Since the player is a LAG, I think maybe a less aggressive line might have at least limited the damage and given us more fold equity on the river when all the draws hit.

[@fundiver198]

Talking about pot control, when we essentially flopped the nuts against someone with a very wide range, seem a bit results oriented to me. Hero just got outdrawn, and that happens, but he could have lost less, had he played the river differently. For me this is a 100% standard spot to check-raise given, that 22 is the strongest hand, I can ever show up with here (JJ and 99 get 3-bet preflop). I don’t want to develop a donking strategy, and I also don’t want to play completely passively against someone with a very wide range. Sure Nathan has a point, that if you always check-raise your strong made hands (22 and J9) and your strong draws (QT, T8), your range become somewhat face up, when you check-call. But at 5NL I don’t think, many players are good enough to ever pick up on that and actively exploit it.

[@Dariusknight]

Again, you need to factor in the effective stacks, you're essentially playing short-stacked against him which necessitates a more cautious approach because you don't have enough money to push him off of big draws and overpairs that could outdraw you on the turn/river. It's why I'd check-call the flop, check-raise the turn then fold river or check-call all the way and only check-raise if I hit a boat. A 3-bet PF would have made this board moot as he probably wouldn't cold call a 3-bet with T8o

[@fundiver198]

I dont consider 100 BB a short stack, and with this hand our goal is not to push him off big hands but to get value from them. A turn check-raise can be a viable alternative, but there are a few drawbacks. It allow him to check back the turn, and if we are bluffing, our draws have weakened on the turn with only 1 card to come. For these reasons I prefer to check-raise the flop. It is the only way to make sure, we can always get stacks inside on the river. And typically I want that, if I flop a set, just not on this particular runout. Remember that Hero actually generated a lot of value both on the flop and turn. So all he had to do different, was to check-fold the river, then he would have played the hand perfect on every single street.

[@nonegiven]

Most players wouldn't call a 3 bet with T8 which is why I normally like 3 betting with small pocket pairs against steals. Steal ranges are wider, but you cant just 3 bet the nuts so small PP is one of my 3bet/fold to 4bet hands normally. Against this player, I didn't think he would fold to a 3 bet with most of his range and would probably call down quite wide, so if I didn't hit a set, a lot of the time he would call a cbet and I'm stuck with a small pair in a big pot. I also don't think it is effectively playing short-stacked. That would be like saying if we were 800bb against 400bb deep it would be considered short-stacked. Or 500bb deep vs 500bb deep is exactly the same as being 100bb deep, so you should stack off with KK pre, when you probably shouldn't. I was happy with everything bar the river which was an obvious mistake looking at it now. Its charging for his draws which is how to make money in the hand.

[@nonegiven]

But check/call and check/raise turn is a good play when he might not have much too, so could be done on this board sometimes.

[@krabman356]

I see bluffs like Villain 3's, but it may be the site I play on. BetOnline at NL10. Sometimes it's the crazies and other times "I think" it's frustrated people who feel someone is always betting into them with nothing.

[@robjelley1138]

Bang on I think.

[@konstantinsinichkin8855]

Sometimes i think it is better to just push or 120%-pot size betting flop and turn in this situations, thinking that better is to win small then to lose big

[@natepoodle9132]

I think if people say "shove on the turn", it is possibly because they know now what the villain was holding. Shoving on the turn maybe would have been the only way to win the pot, but I think it is more to do with hindsight.

[@sumitkhosla4205]

Hey Nate,I completely agree with shoving the turn specially when villain is so loose and if he is deep,I tend to shove turn almost all the time when the board is that wet,almost all the time these draw chasers get there on river LOL

[@lliliiliillliliiliili5180]

What do you think of check-calling the flop considering the board is relatively dry, and then check-raising the turn?

[@BlackRain79Poker]

There is certainly merit to that line. I probably should have mentioned that in the video.

[@dedicatedchamp4780]

What would you say your comments will be on shoving at turn since the board was getting so scary. I thought he had A10.

[@Dark_Angel555]

I assume this balancing out 3bet ranges is for regs and lags only ... there is no point in doing that against a passive fish with a small PFR or a loose aggresive fish/maniac ... cause he will always call your 3bet or 4bet you and you are fucked anyway when you dont hit the set. If a player calls your 3bets all the time and he doesnt fold on flop against your cbet either ... is there any point to continue to 3bet him PF with small pocket pairs or a lighter range ? Also does balancing your range still applies if you lose hand after hand to a single player no matter how you play ? Let's assume he gets lucky all the time against you only....what do you do ? you either continue to play the same against him or you change something ?

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Yes you are right, I don't balance versus fish.

[@fundiver198]

I think, it is justified to make adjustments based on your perceived table image or even your perceived image with a single player. The reason is, that even if your frequencies are near perfect in the long run, over a small sample there will be huge swings, and people typically tend to over adjust to these. So if your last 5 C-bets against a particular player were all bluffs, and he called you every single time and won all the hands, then you should probably make some adjustments to both your opening range and your C-betting range, until things have turned around. If he is on your direct left, you might also elect to simply change to another table, if its a cash game. If its an MTT, often there is nothing else to do than patiently wait for big hands and hope, he bust, or that you get moved to another table.

[@Dark_Angel555]

fundiver198 i was talking about a situation where the player keeps getting lucky against you even if you play the hand perfectly all the time. Do you keep playing the same way against him or you change something ? Or you leave the table ?

[@fundiver198]

If he just cooler you or draw out on you again and again, I would not change anything. If you are losing on a particular table, and its more than just a few individual hands, there is never anything that wrong with leaving though. Maybe that guy, you deemed to be a fish, is actually not that bad postflop, and maybe he is even outplaying you a little bit. And if that is the case, yeah then why not find a better table.

[@MrSitemaster2]

I'm surprised villain only had a straight here I was expecting to see a flush.

[@SimpleOne_000]

Well, I`d disagree with the idea of 3-betting low pocket pairs at a high frequency. You`ve mentioned that it keeps your opponents guessing, but if we start 3-betting such a wide range, we`ll have extremly high 3-bet frequency, which can obviously be countered by light 4-betting or floating the flop (since we are OOP and it seems like the plan is to bet and give up). That`s assumed that we`re playing against a reg (I don`t think that you meant that we have to keep the fish guessing). For that reason I`d much rather mix those hands in our 3-bet range like 10-15% of the time (simply because I like having a wide range of "unlikely" hands). Talking about the hand, I`d much rather see a flop raise being like 0.60-0.70, because with 0.51$ we`re giving our opponent a great price to actually try to catch his straight. If we make it 0.65$ and he still calls (since he called the turn here, this assumption seems reasonable), we have 1.62$ in the pot on the turn, then we go for about 1.20$, and on the river there`s 4$ instead of 3.26$, which means that we make extra 7.5bb in the hand when he misses his draw. And I definitely agree that the river was played poorly. Bet\call is much worse then either of other lines: bet\fold, check\call (worst case - we lose the same amount) or even check\fold.

[@fundiver198]

From a pot geometry standpoint a slightly larger check-raise would have been better, since it would set it up for a more comfortable river shove, when the board dont screw us, as it did here. However its a bit of a tradeoff, because we also dont want to go so big, that he might consider folding something like KJ or QJ.

[@SimpleOne_000]

fundiver198 well, he might consider folding those hands anyway (even though you're right and sometimes smaller size will be more profitable). I think its safe to assume that his range is almost inelastic (given the fact that he called a big turn bet with his draw), so vs those top pair hands I think we are just getting more value with bigger size. And if he's willing to put all the money in with a top pair, as you said, its really better to set up a non-overbet shove on the river. If he can fold a top pair, we're not getting stacks inside using a smaller size anyway.

[@salamander822]

I agree with your analysis..I think another line on the river if just shove but only against really fishy players who will call you with 2pair or even single pairs

[@fundiver198]

I agree, that this guy is probably inelastic, and that his turn call is pretty bad. If the river is a 7, he might lose to QT, if its a Q, he might lose to AT or split with another TX, and if its a diamond, he might lose to a backdoor flush. And also how often does he really get paid on a 1-liner (even he did this time)? Seems like a clear fold to me.

[@connman8d617]

@@fundiver198 It's definitely a clear fold to winning players. But losing players take bad lines, pay too much to draw and draw to 2nd best too often. That's what makes them losing players. It has taken me a lot of energy to make peace with the fact that losing players play so poorly that they sometimes win as a result. Better to have them make mistakes and occasionally suck out on you than to fold you this pot on the flop and you never really make any money off of them as a result.

[@chemstudent4826]

Pre flop: fold I think is the correct answer if you are playing against a skilled player like a lag that has position or 3-bet big Flop: check/raise Turn: bet bigger to maximize chargers for draws. River: check/fold. The river hits his range too well. I could see him calling with a back door flush draw on the flop or an open ended straight draw on the flop which he had

[@MaydayAggro]

So.... No one else finds the raise otr completely insane? When Nathan says he must have it, I'm thinking AT, QT, or something very similar, NOT the naked T. I'd love to see villain raising with that hand otr. It means my QTs hands, which would also c-r otf, can print money here. (Yes, the Q gets counterfeited here, but not usually. It could have just as likely been a 7, where QT would have stacked him.) Nathan, how often do you c-r with a draw in the micros? It's assumed against thinking players that your bluff to value should be roughly 2:1/1:1/1:2 (otf/ott/otr). I assume you would scale those ratios down?...

[@connman8d617]

The only hand printing money there is A10 which completes broadway and it makes 0 sense for A10 to have check raised on the flop so the villain can completely disregard it as a possible holding. Since the villain has flopped open ended, he holds blockers to lots of draw combos so it is most likely he's up against a two-pair or a set when he gets check raised. Occasionally he's up against a pair+draw combo like JT or T9. At any rate, he's either way behind and drawing only to his 32% equity or he's still behind and drawing to a split. He's never ahead. For these reasons, I think he should be folding to the check raise unless he has very specific knowledge about his opponent like "this guy likes to flat with QQ+ and then checkraise flops. Even though I can't beat QQ or KK here I can take it away from him if another scary card comes even if I don't improve."

[@nicks210684]

Hero shouldn’t have many better hands on the river. AT is never check-raising the flop. And not many flush draws do either. T8 diamonds would be the only one obvious option. That’s one combo. Maybe AJ/JT/87 diamonds. But I don’t think I’d be check raising any of those hands. Even counting them it’s 4 combos. On the other hand there aren’t that many sets or two pair hands hero can have either, since most should be 3 bet preflop.

[@Vinceto88]

All in on tern

[@natepoodle9132]

...but is that because you know now what he was holding? I thought to myself as well "shove on the turn", but I think it is because I know what he is holding now. If you had have shoved on the turn maybe villain would have folded. It probably would be the only way to win the pot because the shove may have been enough to deter him from continuing (considering that villain had nothing at the turn).

[@EllisAidan]

Against an EP raise from a seemingly solid villain I would fold 22 in a single raised pot OOP, is that a leak?

[@haugi357]

yes

[@WillPage]

Go all in on turn and he prob calls like a muppet. Winning long term strategy overall.

[@elmariaci7637]

I'd bet about 30-35% of the pot on the river and if he raise I'd fold my set without a doubt.

[@BlackRain79Poker]

I like that line a lot.

[@truetrue2963]

just put it all in on the river or check dont leave $1 behind

[@MrDavePed]

Better to force him to fold at the flop than to let him gain the better hand at the river. Milking with 2's? Only for moo's. The milker gets milked by the inevitable. Think of how good your hand would be after 7 cards? Ten cards? Set of two's gets weaker and weaker the more cards are dealt. That is the intrinsic nature of low numbered cards. Better to go all in and take home whatever you get at the flop. Risky to let him see the turn card. Suicidal to let it go to the river. Moo. ..

[@cameronsmith2730]

10,000 subscriber potentially. His book his fucking brilliant for anyone considering buying it

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Thank you Cameron! And thank you so much for subbing, 10k is amazing.

[@Deadeye1967]

It is the lowest pair, why would you never fold?

[@KleinmeisterPang]

Holly shit he did all this with 8To ... 🤣

[@tobiaskarl4939]

Hero has 74 % at flop and 81 % at turn and at river 0 % ... thats the special unrandomness of pokerstars ... and villain 3 is employee of them ... they can have every shit ... they call or raise and at the end they win ... because they already know the turn, river card ... says one voice in my head ... the other voice say: "no no villain 3 has 8 outs straight draw at flop with 32 % chance" I think Hero had to go all in at the flop to avoid free/cheap cards for villain 3 ... ok ok ... its a donk bet then check-allin

[@sisusdk]

And now, every microstate player playes this hand this exact way, too easy to read.. hahahaha.

[@dsc5085]

disagree with the advice to choose to fold on the river after the minraise

[@BlackRain79Poker]

Thanks for your thoughts on this hand David!

[@MusicalSawMen]

you don't need to balance your play at those stake !

[@BlackRain79Poker]

I agree MSM!

[@mattc9446]

I’d fold lol

[@junito1008]

Always Set-Up hands in online poker !! 🤦🏻‍♂️ People still playing.

[@fundiver198]

I would not call this a set-up. Any TX made a straight on the river, so sets just moved tremendously down in the distribution and could quite easily be check-folded. Its one of those, where you just curse the gods for that crappy river card and try to rup your luck box a bit harder the next time :-)