How To Push Back Early Zerglings!!- StarCraft 2 - Competitive gameplay - Platinum League 1v1 TvZ

[@thestoryteller9431]

When boxed in one base with two command centers consider landing your 2nd back in base purely for mules. Its a lot more effective than you think particularly for one base. Keep up the good work.

[@thestoryteller9431]

Also consider the distance between his main and where he planted his base you were harassing. Dropping very close, walking really far. Keeping the drop between both would have forced him to waste attention and time moving around to defend both

[@Voidspacealpha]

Yay! Mike is here

[@Voidspacealpha]

I like thinking like this. I love working on taxing attention, mainly because it works so well on me

[@zealltube]

GG! Glad you stuck with it instead of tapping out early due to the contain. Recommend moving that factory down 1 tile so your SCVs can wrap around to repair the ramp wall. To break the contain faster, I would have moved the 1st tank up to where the 2nd tank position is early on so as the reaper kites back, they also eat a tank shot. Lastly, you might consider playing a solo game where all you build is SCVs to build up a rhythm of when to create workers so you have less down time on the CCs. Overall great job and nice vid!

[@Voidspacealpha]

Thanks man. This is solid advice

[@MrDenniy]

FYI, reaper saw everything but you might not have recognized it. Macro Zerg will put their early tech choice down around 3:30. You saw bane nest at 2:45. That’s a dead giveaway that aggression is coming. Also, you should click on the growing tech structure to confirm which units he will make. There are roach rushes that hit at this time too and the optimal response is different against roaches than banes. Roaches are countered hard by tanks but are barely tickled by hellions. Any amount of Ling bane gets deleted by 6-8 hellions behind a wall. You can defend them with tanks, but with hellions its so one-sided, they’ll probably just bugger off. So if you can confirm ling bane, hellions are better. (as others have said). At this point, you’re probably good enough if you just have a standard response to early aggression (bunker, pump marines, work toward a tank, repair/reinforce wall will cover almost anything that can hit you before 5:00). Even if it isn’t the perfect response, you’re playing from a lead anyway, so probably ok. Better to react decisively than slowly make the optimal response. At higher levels, aggressive players have diverse follow-ups and that’s when it becomes more important to get your reaction optimized.

[@Voidspacealpha]

okay so i actually need to look for the early tech structure, and ideally see what its going to be. sounds so dumb when i write it out. my bad

[@MrDenniy]

@@Voidspacealpha Yeah, it takes one action to know whether you have roaches or a bane bust coming. It's worth taking that moment.

[@Voidspacealpha]

You are, as always, totally correct

[@drulad43]

GG Well Played 👍🎉🎉🎉... Awesome Proper Response! after he was trying to TRICK you that he going for BaneBust all-in but he was actually going super-super greedy Macro behind. His Build was wrong though. Going for MACRO-Hatches & Rushing-Tier3 (obviously rushing Lurkers) was bad. His suppose to get it one at a time, getting Lots of Army Production is always 1st Priority. Also I noticed during the harass or scan you didnt CLICK the structure he was building. you have to figure out what tech he was going for. Tip: "Zerg Build Basic Fundamentals" Theres a path that one has to choose on getting up the TECH-TREE (same with Terrans & Protoss). Terran has Bio or Mech, Protoss has Splashes-1st or Gatemen-1st(blink/charge), But Zerg has 3-Stages: Stage 1: "Banes vs Roach Style" You can only choose one style to keep up with the UPGRADES (MELEE or RANGE) picking both weakens the army. just Imagine Terran is almost +3+3 upgrades and Zerg is still on +1Melee, +1Range & +1Armor. Not a a good situation for zerg indeed! Stage 2: "Special Support" "Anti-Air Support" is either Hydra or Muta. Hydra benefits from Range so its a good support for RoachStyle and can go to Lurkers. Muta in the otherhand is costly thats why their more better with the cheap Banes & Also U can get Corruptor&Broods "Caster Support" is a more MICRO-focus support but can easily get zerg into straight-up fights. Fungal, Abbuct, BlindingClouds, Swarmhost and more are all very helpful for direct engagements which may easily turn the tides of battle it properly used. "Roach" is also a special support ONLY when using BaneStyle against Mech & Protoss. Too many Robo & Mech can be overwhelming against just LingBanes. Stage 3: "Tier3" Basically those 3Lategame Units (Lurkers, Ultras, Broods). Costly but powerful & strong, its up to your style that can benefit your units its already lategame anyway (5base Saturation is already Lategame), UNLESS ITS NOT LATEGAME WHICH IS WRONG & STUPID ... LOL

[@Voidspacealpha]

This was very detailed. Thanks man, I’m strugling with off race build knowledge so this helps a lot

[@proape6052]

A trick you can do to break that contain is siege a tank right at the bottom of your ramp. Tanks can take a lot of baneling shots and if you have marines behind it, they can clear lings off the tank. You should make sure to target fire the banes with the tanks for maximum damage. This can force the Zerg to fight or retreat because the tank will be in range of the ling bane. Another trick you can do is to drop the tank into the banes. This will detonate the banelings and if you're fast enough, you can even rescue the tank. You can do this by hotkeying the tank to 2 and medivac to 1 and using that to quickly select the tank and pull it into the medivac. Usually people counter this by making hellions because they're easier to get compared to tanks and bane busts usually hit before tanks are out. You can stall them by using engineering bays to wall off your main and abusing marine range vs zergling melee.

[@Voidspacealpha]

Oh that’s a cool idea. Tank at the bottom of the ramp 👍

[@erikhaynes5506]

Nice to show complete dominance once in a while. Shows how much you are improving.

[@Voidspacealpha]

I don’t know about totally dominance 😅 But thanks man

[@alastairlarwill6388]

GG ollie, if they are building zerglings they are not building drones. Any early rush by Zerg is extremely expensive for their macro.

[@Voidspacealpha]

I knew this, but it took me way to long to like, actually know this.

[@albertbergquist2113]

Good opening, much tighter timing than usual with the factory and starport! Zergs 14 exp and 14 pool isn't really a build order, it's just bad. 16 exp and 16 pool would have been much better. 14 pool is a build order, but then you don't get the exp, just the queen for extra larvae ... zerg should have busted your depos as his first banes finished. You won due to his mistakes, which is a typical SC game. :)

[@Voidspacealpha]

Well, I’m glad to hear my build is getting tighter. Thanks man

[@MrDenniy]

Serral did some great stuff with 14/14 last year. It’s very modern/innovative at the pro level. Definitely a real build. Not saying this guy executed properly. That’s a different question.

[@albertbergquist2113]

@@MrDenniy yeah that might be it. Whatever this guy did wasn't a build. :)

[@Voidspacealpha]

Need to watch this match

[@Voidspacealpha]

Fair enough

[@elnaindejardin]

Good game but I think your opponent was not at your level :he was late in his lings rush and he didn’t use his economy to build a decent army. Remember researching upgrades sooner. Also when you spot gas+spawning pool immediately prepare a defence keep your second base in your mane until you have enough army.

[@Voidspacealpha]

Gotcha man. Totally makes sense

[@defendermd2991]

you are close to plat 1 and diamon 3, i dont know how to handle properly those gay Lurkers, im curious how you will deal with😁

[@Voidspacealpha]

So bear in mind this is me, so it might not be the best advice. For me it’s mainly keeping a handle on my panic. The temptation is to rush units in and deal with them with a scan. This can work, but you’ll lose some units for sure, so really it’s about assessing if that sacrifice is worth it, and if it isn’t, pull back and pick a new fight. Scans are fine, but also ravens are better. Then it’s all seige tanks and air vision

[@Framidan]

Marauders and liberators, use scan and don't forget to focus fire

[@MrDenniy]

Either play it like tank vs. tank TvT (AKA a positional siege match) or split up, surround, and come from many directions (dilutes the splash). Do not fight without detection.

[@Voidspacealpha]

This works too

[@Voidspacealpha]

No detection is basically a fail

[@ryantaylor4831]

kinda lucky with that game, he built all those lings and banes and did almost nothing with them giving you time to build up your forces.

[@Voidspacealpha]

I'll take a lucky win with my record any day mate