How to Radicalize a Celebrity

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@Pinely
@Pinely 2 жыл бұрын
Wow another great pinely video! Anways let me know what you thought of this and feel free to give me money on Patreon to see a bonus video a month! Patreon.com/pinely
@stacin821
@stacin821 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a long conversation with you about Dave Chappelle's monologue because I don't see how you got that he was calling Kayne brave. Are you old enough to have watched the Chapelle show back in the early 2000s? This is an honest question. I would guess you're in your 20s, so I would assume no, but maybe not? The reason I ask this is to know whether you knew what the climate was like back then. It was different than now, so Chapelle show would come across completely different to a young person now compared to then.
@davidbowman2001
@davidbowman2001 2 жыл бұрын
Best video yet bröther 👍
@frederickoftheartic2209
@frederickoftheartic2209 2 жыл бұрын
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@SylviaGuest
@SylviaGuest 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! on the topic of "holocaustisization", Godwin's Law was coined in the 90s to describe exactly this. It's been around since the birth of the internet, and Godwin coined the term to try to get people to, as you say, actually think about the holocaust (before he joined tiktok he was incredibly based). However, he doesnt explore the reason why it happens, a reason i would argue is simple; the need for a universal undeniable "ethically bad thing". If I make a comparison to Thatcher, it could fail because my opponent actually loves her. If my opponent makes a comparison to Communism, it could fail if I loved the CCCP (I don't, but those teens are out there). So we need a comparison that everyone agrees is bad (and if they dont they lose the argument by default): enter the one of the largest atrocities of the last Century. If there were another universal bad thing on the internet Godwin's Law wouldnt exist to the extent that it does. Bu an obvious side-effect of this is that people become desensitised to one of the worst events of the 20th Century. another is that you're also directly equating you opponent with the nazis. It's far more trouble than its worth, but since people dont have anything else (and wont ever get into a debate about ethics on the internet), its not going to change. and all of these issues come together in Gina Corano's tweet. TL;DR : holocaustisiafdtion = Godwin's Law, coined in 1990. actually happens because any other comparison you make on the internet will fall flat. Is incredibly flawed and is a factor in our current desensitisation to the Holocaust.
@AndromedaD
@AndromedaD 2 жыл бұрын
​@stacin821 Hey, I remember watching The Chappelle Show. One of the bits literally pops in my head every day or so. I don't know how relevant his old show or old jokes are to the current conversation around Dave Chappelle. Even completely outside of anything that might be considered a joke or a bit or coming from some comedy persona instead of his true feelings, he fought to keep affordable housing out of his neighborhood. I don't think he was fighting multifamily housing sarcastically. He's lost whatever relatiblity he ever had. Since he can't fall back on that for his material, he's resorted to promoting and hyping up bigots for some reason.
@thenewdoc4599
@thenewdoc4599 2 жыл бұрын
I always get annoyed by celebrities who complain about being silenced while speaking into a microphone to a large audience.
@gracefoster7587
@gracefoster7587 2 жыл бұрын
Even more annoying when it’s an elected politician talking in front of congress lol
@themusicaljunkie37
@themusicaljunkie37 2 жыл бұрын
They just don't want to criticized whatsoever.... if you don't agree 100 percent, you must pro censorship.
@AnarchoTak
@AnarchoTak 2 жыл бұрын
@@themusicaljunkie37 they think criticism is censorship. lol. even tho it's part of free speech. they don't want free speech they just want a echo chamber yeah
@skybite
@skybite 2 жыл бұрын
Homelander even did this in season 3 of The Boys.
@qbcomicaddict2590
@qbcomicaddict2590 2 жыл бұрын
@@themusicaljunkie37 it’s not about disagreeing with them it’s about them being silenced. When your disagreement leads to the persons ideas being removed it’s censorship
@Fandomsaremylifee
@Fandomsaremylifee 2 жыл бұрын
In my childhood (2004-2016) I never received any kind of antisemitism at school after saying that I'm Jewish; But now my sister who is in the same school with the same teachers, gets bullied and harassed for being Jewish. I don't understand what's differemt other than the rise of social media in everyones lives
@whitefragilityexpose1512
@whitefragilityexpose1512 2 жыл бұрын
Bigots use social media as a tool to spread bigotry. Anti-bigots assume everyone agrees with them, so they unintentionally allow bigotry to grow through inaction.
@LushOffiziell
@LushOffiziell 2 жыл бұрын
This sucks man :-(
@SuperNuclearUnicorn
@SuperNuclearUnicorn 2 жыл бұрын
Well the President changed and a bigot took over office, sending the message to the public that being hateful is ok. Then there's been a number of celebs who have seen that being bigoted is fine and decide to reveal who they always were Regarding anti-semitism specifically, Republicans have spent years and years talking about Jewish people controlling the world. That the Democrats are controlled by Jewish billionaires, and that anything negative that happens is because this powerful cabal of Jewish people caused it Trump fostered an environment where that conspiracy could grow, and the bigots who believe in that shit could be elected and now we're here, with famous and powerful people spreading harmful messages and stereotypes All the best to your sister. She's the victim of many years of unchecked hate
@SuperNuclearUnicorn
@SuperNuclearUnicorn 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and to those reading this who might say "oh but you need to hear both sides", or tell someone "you're just as bad as them" because they (verbally or physically) fought a bigot, I ask you to remember OP's sister and the things she has to go through at a young age Then remember we could have stopped this from being as bad as it is if we didn't allow assholes to spread their hate under the guise of "hearing out both sides"
@susanmclare
@susanmclare 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always worth noting that there are scenarios where *most* (although unfortunately not all) right wing extremists are forced to acknowledge that there’s lines they won’t cross and things they will cancel each other for saying. Namely anything involving issues of child-protection. You don’t really hear anybody outside of the manosphere arguing in favour of removing the age of consent. Milo Yannopolis tried it years ago and was immediately cancelled by the free speech absolutists! Dunno what it says about us as a culture that he’s apparently working his way back to relevancy now though.
@1989annasmith
@1989annasmith 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird how "stuff you aren't allowed to say" is stuff I've heard so many times. I WISH I could clutch my pearls in shock at hearing such hateful things with my virgin ears.
@davidbowman2001
@davidbowman2001 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m gonna get in trouble for saying this!” (continues making millions of dollars)
@rinothename5563
@rinothename5563 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbowman2001 "people will cancel me for this joke" (gets 5 netflix shows)
@gracefoster7587
@gracefoster7587 2 жыл бұрын
Or the “we were ALL thinking it! You’re just too much of a coward to say it” after someone said something hateful. No, we aren’t all thinking about going defcon 3 on jews
@the-unknown-1
@the-unknown-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbowman2001 "I'm being silenced!" (They say on Fox News the most-watched news channel in America)
@papasmurf9205
@papasmurf9205 2 жыл бұрын
@@gracefoster7587 when he said it I don’t think he was necessarily thinking about the holocaust….that’s like a normal saying but then idk cause now he’s saying Hilter had some good points 😂….that’s wild but I haven’t watched that interview….Kanye is Jewish….he is ACTUALLY talking about the Jews in power ….he’s saying it the way he’s saying it because he can’t say the peoples names individually and he is going the crazy route because that’s the route that keeps you safe….it’s the route that allows enough doubt in what your saying to protect you and they can’t touch him because if they did then everything he said would be true….we already know that it is true though because Kanye said several hateful things about black people and kept all his brand deals and I think that he did plan all of this… he’s not crazy he’s exposing the truth….Jewish people are in charge and that’s why they (as in the companies) care more about what he’s said recently than what he said in the past about black people
@SuperMustache555
@SuperMustache555 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they tried to use "non-union" as a selling point for the movie
@full-timepog6844
@full-timepog6844 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love abusing your film crew.
@alanacrail3244
@alanacrail3244 2 жыл бұрын
"Our movie isn't like other movies... we treat our crew like shit"
@boianko
@boianko 2 жыл бұрын
The crew are all pulling themselves by their bootstraps!
@nbewarwe
@nbewarwe 2 жыл бұрын
For Daily Wire's audience, it's probably really effective. You'd be surprised at how many people hate unions. I've heard people say unions are bad because of legit reasons like "They've sold out to corporations so all unions are bad" to stupid reasons like "Some require you to give a bit of your salary so therefore all unions are bad."
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 2 жыл бұрын
One year just before Thanksgiving, I saw a WalMart ad pitching "UnionMart" as this terrible, horrible place you never want to go to where the employees might be home on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
@tonycisneros5343
@tonycisneros5343 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that Gina Carano complains about having to take on one of the largest companies in the world alone but demonizes union membership.
@khazermashkes2316
@khazermashkes2316 2 жыл бұрын
I wish that people would better understand the benefits of union membership.
@LordArikado
@LordArikado 2 жыл бұрын
@@khazermashkes2316 I feel like people would better understand the benefits of union membership if we didn't have asinine "right-to-work" laws that cripple the bargaining power of unions.
@tonycisneros5343
@tonycisneros5343 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordArikado 100%
@WGPhil-uw5cs
@WGPhil-uw5cs 2 жыл бұрын
@@khazermashkes2316 unions is founded on keeping blacks out of the workforce and why should someone pay union dues just to get a job.
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
“Cancel culture is so toxic” they say as the people who love to hear that exact phrase clap and throw them money. “I’ve been cancelled for my opinions uwu” they say as they make the highest earnings of their career yet.
@lowlowseesee
@lowlowseesee 2 жыл бұрын
the carelessness to it is so staggering
@themusicaljunkie37
@themusicaljunkie37 2 жыл бұрын
"Being cancelled for my opinions" means "my feelings are hurt cuz being criticized.." the masses must always agree unless it's big tech censorship whatever...
@Saibellus
@Saibellus 2 жыл бұрын
my spicy take is that minority on minority hate is a vital door for more actively violent racists, sexists, and homophobes to claim public stages. i feel like socially people (and leftists especially) are reluctant to call out minorities who are being hateful when its still dogwhistles, because they dont wanna seem like theyre talking over minority voices or implying negative stereotypes. it provides cover for the worst actors who screen themselves behind "oh so now the tolerant left hates kanye just for speaking about his experiences in the music industry?? sounds racist to me!", pushing that line right up to kanye literally saying hitler is an okay guy. my point being is dont let the right tone police or gaslight you into not recognizing hate for what it is no matter who it comes from.
@chris135x
@chris135x 2 жыл бұрын
People are "cancelled" for not saying the "right" greeting. LOLZ I still cannot believe there are people who live in denial that cancel culture is a social disease and a social/mental illness.
@Kitechi12
@Kitechi12 2 жыл бұрын
Then, of course, the same people will turn around and say to boycott anything that has gay people or whatever. Because that's not "cancel culture".... somehow. They don't actually care about "cancel culture." They just don't want to be held accountable for what they say.
@itsciver
@itsciver 2 жыл бұрын
As a German, it really annoys me if people do weird comparisons with the Holocaust... It always feel like they don't take it seriously and people are relativizing what had happened. You can't compare a bunch of people getting mad at you because of something you said to the monstrosities that happend during WWII. In my country, it's mandatory in school to visit a concentration camp, and I've seen many people throwing up for just being there. There are no words to describe how it feels to actually visit a camp by yourself where so many innocent people lost their lives and got tortured. I wish more people from the US would travel abroad and take that tour too. Maybe it would widen their horizon, so they can understand it better and.. maybe they would get some respect for the victims too...
@Financiallyfreeauthor
@Financiallyfreeauthor 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@yoza359
@yoza359 2 жыл бұрын
4 million Germans in Eisenhowers camps
@Mohler41
@Mohler41 2 жыл бұрын
You are no german commie
@pineapple7024
@pineapple7024 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoza359 The only point you’re making is that concentration camps are bad. It’d be just as shit of a comparison if they said “being Republican is like being German in the US after WWII”
@jake9976
@jake9976 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion , they are right to not take it seriously . At the end of the day , we all are just people and we should learn to move on . Let's stop making everyone a victim .
@fangsabre
@fangsabre 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, Gina was never even 'fired'. To be fired, you actually have to be employed. Her contract with Disney was over and Disney hadn't renewed it yet. Then she gets spicy on Twitter, Disney decides "ehhh.... Maybe let's not hire her again" and that's it. She wasn't kicked off of something, there wasn't a business deal they were canceling. She just didn't get a new contract.
@vrishankmehta8942
@vrishankmehta8942 2 жыл бұрын
The fuck you saying? Disney literally wanted her to hire for mando season 3 and also planned on making a show as her being the protagonist.
@fangsabre
@fangsabre 2 жыл бұрын
@@vrishankmehta8942 ahh, but they hadn't actually offered her the new contract yet. And then they just didn't
@JaseekaRawr
@JaseekaRawr Жыл бұрын
@@fangsabre ohh wow, I had no idea! I hate how these big things just go unnoticed by so many ppl(like myself). On that subject, you know how ppl say that grocery stores could get sued for donating the food(they're throwing out) to homeless ppl? Apparently that's not only never happened in the history of the US, but there's actually a federal law that prevents them from being sued!! Sooo many ppl(usually boot lïcking c*cks) just repeat that lie everywhere, online & irl, just to justify not feeding those in need! 😭😭 So the next time you hear someone say that, let them know it's false! Spread the word! I just learned this yesterday from Climate Town's vid. It's a banger, absolutely recommend! Felt a duty to pass this info on 🙏🏻
@commentsonpeople8753
@commentsonpeople8753 Жыл бұрын
That’s what they do at my school and how people get “fired”. We had a teacher who was really racist and would say that if you weren’t Christian you were going to hell and should k*ll yourself. So my school just didn’t renew his contract and he went bye bye.
@samanthawhite2801
@samanthawhite2801 Жыл бұрын
she couldve easily be considered for the she hulk adaptation of marvel (not that this is a good thing but its marvel)but she had to a be a alt right dumbass
@francesstewart2
@francesstewart2 2 жыл бұрын
Hottake: just because it was brave to do doesn't mean the person that did it is good. Bravery is morally neutral in itself, the moral value comes from what you stand for and why you did a brave thing
@francesstewart2
@francesstewart2 2 жыл бұрын
This was mainly in response to whoever it was calling Kanye brave. Kanye is morally terrible and being "brave" doesn't impact the fact that he's saying horrendous, dangerous things
@vlad5042
@vlad5042 2 жыл бұрын
yeah if i jump into a pit of tigers to save a baby thats brave. if i do it cuz i wanna punch the tigers thats still brave but not exactly noble.
@theshire9173
@theshire9173 2 жыл бұрын
If I tried to kill someone for no reason, that's brave but absolutely immoral
@zelinabott-goins8719
@zelinabott-goins8719 2 жыл бұрын
courage is a virtue according to aristotle. bravery can be defined as courageous behavior or charector. in history bravery is often linked with concept of morale value. when i hear the word brave, i think of someone who has the strenth and courage to act upon their belief in what is right and good. i do not consider kanye brave. also, bravery has a positive connotation. his words and actions as of late are neither brave nor positive. i do understand your sentement in regards to the poster calling him brave, and agree with you that moral virtue is rooted in ones beliefs. i am trying to think of a word that seems more fitting than brave but can't think of one yet.. maybe it be put in just one word. i hope kanye can find peace so he doesn't feel the need to spew hate into world. i hope enough people can see he is hurting and hurting others because of it and not feed into his delusions.
@jake9976
@jake9976 2 жыл бұрын
Sure , but if these rules apply then you should not be demonized just because people disagree with you . Shouldn't the people who cancel others also be morally neutral ?
@sookendestroy1
@sookendestroy1 2 жыл бұрын
Contacting a person when they're emotionally distraught and saying hey join our group and well fix all your problems is peak cult behaviour
@brandonisburied
@brandonisburied 2 жыл бұрын
i wish they could swallow their pride and be able to say "i was dumb" learn this skill, very powerful
@chainswordcs
@chainswordcs 2 жыл бұрын
being wrong about something is valuable if you choose to admit it and learn from it. sometimes failing and trying again to eventually succeed is more valuable experience to learn from than if one succeeds on the first try. but a person unwilling to admit theyre wrong in any capacity isn't learning anything; they're being willfully ignorant
@bratatouille
@bratatouille 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even about being dumb. You can admit that you were wrong about something, while still believing that you are a smart and reasonable person. All you really have to admit to is that that you are not all-knowing and you did not have all the information on the topic. It's honestly worse that people can't admit to even that.
@appropriate-channelname3049
@appropriate-channelname3049 2 жыл бұрын
what if your wrong?
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 2 жыл бұрын
I love being right, which is why I've been learning this skill.
@kh-wp1mj
@kh-wp1mj 2 жыл бұрын
and they could listen to marginalized people instead of immediately going on the defence😭
@eskykitty
@eskykitty 2 жыл бұрын
as my high school world history teacher always said: “the second you compare anything to to holocaust or hitler, you’ve lost your argument.”
@flow185
@flow185 2 жыл бұрын
Once you actually read how awful those events are, you stop doing those comparaison really quick
@chattingman6777
@chattingman6777 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard people say goofer things comparing jobs to being actual slaves.
@thatsdisco
@thatsdisco 2 жыл бұрын
@@chattingman6777 Yeah,, the Atlantic* slave trade is another one that I'd argue people need to stop comparing other things with. Late-stage capitalism is horrible and jobs are exploitative, and there IS modern slavery happening, but people need to stop comparing it to the horrific things that have been done to black people throughout the atlantic* slave trade. *edit: I was a dum dum that mixed up pacific with atlantic, so I fixed that. Thanks to everyone who corrected me!
@noahpauley
@noahpauley 2 жыл бұрын
Except the things that inspired the holocaust. Like slavery, treatment of immigrants on the southern US border, and genocide of indigenous people in the US.
@eskykitty
@eskykitty 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahpauley nope. horrific events are not comparable to each other. each is separate and awful.
@brasteryakintosh9418
@brasteryakintosh9418 2 жыл бұрын
I think what I hate the most about conservatives throwing holocaust comparisons around is how rarely they extend that sympathy to groups who were targeted by it, sometimes even suggesting members of those same groups should be "round up". To them, we shouldn't call them Nazis when they literally say the government should round up leftists and queer people, but when Denny's tells them to wear a mask at the front counter, they will act like they're literally being sent to the gas chambers
@shadygirlxoxo
@shadygirlxoxo Жыл бұрын
This. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 2 жыл бұрын
"I've been cancelled!" they whine as they wipe their tears with all the cash they've been making.
@thatgirl1947
@thatgirl1947 2 жыл бұрын
Gina must have forgotten that the actual “diamond of hope” (the hope diamond) is famously cursed and known for getting owners killed. But it is a fitting metaphor
@mynameisuju
@mynameisuju 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the willingness to get radicalized in the rich and famous is based on entitlement. The public pushback against them seems to trigger something in their egos that almost always initiates a rant about how they are being cancelled and loosing everything, when by everything it usually means just twitter followers. Celebrities feel so entitled to our adoration that immediately its paused, even over genuinely dangerous stuff like the rise in their Transphobia and Antisemitism, they start hunting for that adoration from elsewhere, even the far right. Every opinion they have has to be publicly cosigned, and when its not then its a cultural attack on their personhood that they can go on about for years... from their million dollar homes. Cancel culture has still never made any celebrity poor or even jobless, yet the poor and jobless and forced to see the wealthy publicly spiral into radicalized bigotry because they were not praised for blaming everything on the Jewish. I'm tired.
@cantthinkofaname5046
@cantthinkofaname5046 2 жыл бұрын
The only people who’ve I’ve ever actually seen cancelled who have a valid point about how it effects them are the wayyy smaller creators who aren’t mainstream celebrities. Like, sometimes a mob is will echo things until what was actually said is lost, but it only happens to a few people
@hiddenqu5238
@hiddenqu5238 2 жыл бұрын
Except when they get de platformed it isn't about ego but rather money since for celebrities they make money off their fans but if their fans can't find them anywhere because they got de platformed for saying something controversial well no shit they're going to be angry
@hiddenqu5238
@hiddenqu5238 2 жыл бұрын
Also transphobia stuff is justified they're grooming children and their ideology is an attack on truth
@noraunhappy
@noraunhappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiddenqu5238 their fans don’t need social media to find them though. Their fans already found them. And no, most of these celebrities make money off big companies giving them money. The money they receive from fans is a drop in the bucket. A platform is privilege, not a right. And these people are mad they lost a privilege, so they act like it’s the same as bing denied a right.
@cantthinkofaname5046
@cantthinkofaname5046 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiddenqu5238 Stop listening to people who have things to gain by propagating stereotypes. Seriously, the people saying that about trans people are usually more suspicious, like Matt Walsh on consent from minors. You’ve been groomed into hate by a guy who doesn’t actually believe what he’s saying. Like Alex Jones, he doesn’t make money by telling you the truth, he does it by making you comfortable in your ignorance
@JamesMarriott
@JamesMarriott 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@picketinggold9208
@picketinggold9208 2 жыл бұрын
true dat jimmy
@fishfinn8689
@fishfinn8689 2 жыл бұрын
omg jim marrot cameo
@rivervvitch
@rivervvitch 2 жыл бұрын
hope ur doing alright James!!
@seasick.crocodile
@seasick.crocodile 2 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. as someone who is ethnically jewish but didn't grow up with the religion, i myself am often ignorant to anti-semitism but your channel has really opened my eyes. thank you!
@10pmmemes88
@10pmmemes88 2 жыл бұрын
'I need random people on the internet to tell me I'm a victim because I don't notice it irl' Nice.
@aweirdo546
@aweirdo546 2 жыл бұрын
@@10pmmemes88 you missed the point so hard dude
@rosamy2017
@rosamy2017 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Jewish and I did grow up with the religion, but lemme tell you, you’re my family. In America, people think you need to believe in god to be Jewish because that’s how it works with Christian’s, but that’s not how being Jewish works. 50% of Jews are atheists, and our “religion” does not require a belief in god. For me, I keep our traditions not because of “god” but because I respect my ancestors and how much they suffered so that I can be jewish. It’s my culture, just like my Chinese and Puerto Rican friends have their cultures. You’re always welcome in our communities if you want! And if anyone tells you you’re not, fuck them ❤
@thehaus6998
@thehaus6998 2 жыл бұрын
you abandoned your rich heritage for some hilbilly shit, you run from the suffering we feel every day, shame on you honestly
@onemanarmysswampparty
@onemanarmysswampparty 2 жыл бұрын
@@aweirdo546 no he's on the money
@YehudiNimol
@YehudiNimol 2 жыл бұрын
The part about Kanye took the words out of my mouth. I experienced the exact same thing. The most disheartening part was finding out he has antisemitic comments going back to 2018. I became a fan of him in 2019. The thought that I could've avoided supporting this person if I only knew about his actions and views earlier sickens me, because it tells me that large media outlets have an interest in keeping celebrities' racism in the shadows. His antisemitic remarks were removed from his TMZ rant for a reason - they knew that they couldn't keep getting headlines from him if he was exposed
@pffpffovich2398
@pffpffovich2398 2 жыл бұрын
His "antisemetic" views are aimed solely at big lables, and record studios owners, remember what happened to Michael Jackson? ice Cube? Wiley in UK (from recent). **Juice** are pretty racist to black people, and when they own 99% of music industry, that's what you get.
@07W
@07W Жыл бұрын
eh i still listen to his music bcuz its the best in hip hop idc what his views are
@spiiralwya
@spiiralwya Жыл бұрын
as long as he keeps making good ass music i dont really care about what he does outside of music lmfao
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I was in a relationship with a dude who thought Gina being transphobic wasn't a big deal because "it's not like she goes out and punches trans people". Needless to say we don't talk anymore lol
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I don't know if the bar for transphobia could be set any lower
@appropriate-channelname3049
@appropriate-channelname3049 2 жыл бұрын
you see this is the problem. You can't let people have wrong thoughts. you can't can't even entertain that she might be in the right. Would you rather everyone who has the wrong opinion act like sycophants and just say what you want to hear. because that's what your going to get.
@pffpffovich2398
@pffpffovich2398 2 жыл бұрын
So we should punish people just for what they think or what they say (excluding calls to action, these are punishable by law already)? Can't wait to see a local thought police department open up.
@sylmaerie
@sylmaerie 2 жыл бұрын
@@pffpffovich2398how is not wanting to associate with someone “punishing” them though? like i get what you’re saying i do but you’re acting as though simply disassociating yourself from viewpoints you disagree with is Literally 1984 territory when it’s not
@user-db4lk7yg3o
@user-db4lk7yg3o 2 жыл бұрын
​@@pffpffovich2398 Oh no I'm losing followers on Twitter ‼‼ The evil cancel mob is punishing me for my thoughts!!!! 😫😫😰😰😰😰
@glynislily
@glynislily 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s often overlooked how transphobic Gina was being. This was probably causing some issues on set since Pedro Pascal’s sister is trans and he’s very supportive. I just don’t see him wanting to work with someone saying shit like she was saying.
@generalbanana1885
@generalbanana1885 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember her making a bunch of anti-trans statements on Twitter IMMEDIATELY after Pedro listed his "pronouns" on Twitter. What a great co-worker.
@Rossoneri2
@Rossoneri2 2 жыл бұрын
Probably overlooked cause hardly anyone was paying attention to her as an actor.
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@generalbanana1885 wow
@peachysandie
@peachysandie 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Pedro say that he had a talk with her about it? I seem to remember him saying he talked to her and they were on good terms, or at least he made it out to be a positive conversation?
@glynislily
@glynislily 2 жыл бұрын
@@peachysandie Maybe, but he may have also said that to be professional since she was a co-worker.
@sweetykitty4427
@sweetykitty4427 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like, by the time a celebrity says something crazy in public, they've already been stewing in alt right juices for long enough to think that can be normal to say :( But it happens similarly with regular people. My brother was almost radicalised, and being mean to him was a bad idea on my end- when I was kinder it helped more to stop his descent into the right. HOWEVER I WILL SAY a lot of the time ppl do try to explain kindly to celebrities that theyre wrong (like to JKR) and they just dont give a damn
@dayligs
@dayligs 2 жыл бұрын
Oh how naive of you. You'll find that most people in this world and in the west, don't agree with you and your radical ideology. We are the silent majority. You are correct, we do not give a damn.
@sweetykitty4427
@sweetykitty4427 2 жыл бұрын
@@dayligs uh oh!!! Looks like someone has been stewing in alt right juices for long enough to think this is normal to say!!
@marvin2678
@marvin2678 2 жыл бұрын
how is your brother now?
@sweetykitty4427
@sweetykitty4427 2 жыл бұрын
@@marvin2678 he's a lot better! he wisened up about a lot of common bigotries. it helped a bit that he worked for a doctor's office HR department for a short while as well. why do you ask? :)
@jakew7982
@jakew7982 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh I know, despite a lot of Hollywood liberals being accused of being pedophiles and exploitative of young people, at least it’s better than this disgusting generation of alt-right celebrities that are only saying shit that people want to hear so they can make a quick buck. I’ll take a million Epsteins and Weinsteins and the status quo, over whatever dumpster fire we have now.
@spacedino91
@spacedino91 2 жыл бұрын
You can never actually be cancelled if you have a platform and audience to return to. Its normal day people it actually affects just like everything else, not that aren't people who don't deserve conquests if its actually the right person. Too many keyboard detectives getting on the wrong person and dog-piling. If you are rich or famous though you are untouchable.
@endcaps1917
@endcaps1917 2 жыл бұрын
I mean there is the French treatment
@tortilla7561
@tortilla7561 2 жыл бұрын
unless you really fuck up,like Idk beating a puppy or something.
@Aloewaves
@Aloewaves 2 жыл бұрын
@@endcaps1917 down with the royals! Guillo guillo guillo!
@hiddenqu5238
@hiddenqu5238 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah except when you're a celebrity then all your money comes from having fans and being an platforms then you aren't so rich and famous anymore
@hiddenqu5238
@hiddenqu5238 2 жыл бұрын
And what about the average man who wants to go the grain and have an opinion people don't agree with what then do we still allow it only because he's not rich or justify it somehow even though they're poor look at sneako he isn't rich and they deploformed him and he has to be on rumble getting a fraction of the views he used to
@kh-wp1mj
@kh-wp1mj 2 жыл бұрын
i dont understand how they dont see the irony of complaining about being cancelled (consequences for their actions) but calling us sensitive for fearing for our lives
@kh-wp1mj
@kh-wp1mj 2 жыл бұрын
just listen to marginalized people, the real people affected..blind hate and fear is such a vicious cycle, these thoughts blasted on these big platforms makes it seem acceptable and normal if they just can get away with it, people will be led down those paths or have their biases confirmed, and that leads to us dying for no good reason
@Marcus-ge5lw
@Marcus-ge5lw Жыл бұрын
Lol fearing for your lives 😂😂
@Abedeuss
@Abedeuss Жыл бұрын
"Hey Kanye, he's making you sound bad." "NO HE'S MAKING ME SOUND EXACTLY HOW I MEANT IT!"
@Rampala
@Rampala 2 жыл бұрын
These people truly believe fear of being "cancelled" is equal to fear of being murdered, don't they? It's wild. I mean, I'm afraid for my trans partner's life every time they leave the house, but Gina got her FEELINGS hurt! Where's my perspective??
@m1dos391
@m1dos391 2 жыл бұрын
@ziljin
@ziljin 2 жыл бұрын
They also compared vaccine mandate to Holocaust but also they think holocaust is fake
@plutopawzz
@plutopawzz 2 жыл бұрын
agreed.
@plutopawzz
@plutopawzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@m1dos391 ?
@wendys9500
@wendys9500 2 жыл бұрын
@@m1dos391 I know, I’m also speechless from the sheer stupidity of people in power thinking they’re victims while actively discriminating against people who actually do get hated and murdered for being who they are
@R1ngbanana
@R1ngbanana 2 жыл бұрын
Pinely, your content is so underrated. I really appreciate these "video essays" that you do. I feel like most video essays I watch (Contra, HBomb, Vadim) each have their own perspective and I appreciate you having your own. Keep up the amazing work!
@chiefofthesky
@chiefofthesky 2 жыл бұрын
who’s vadim? always looking for new leftist creators to support 😊 especially those who do long form content
@R1ngbanana
@R1ngbanana 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefofthesky HeyItsVadim (previously Creationist_Cat). Cool dude who has done a lot of video essays on American nationalism, Tim Pool, Lauren Southern, JP…. highly recommend!
@chiefofthesky
@chiefofthesky 2 жыл бұрын
@@R1ngbanana thank you! definitely will check it out 😊 always happy to support more creators in the sphere
@ChrisJamesTV
@ChrisJamesTV 2 жыл бұрын
nothing is faster than me clicking on a 30 minute pinely video
@thedestroyasystem
@thedestroyasystem 2 жыл бұрын
Same bro, same
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t click too fast, you’ll break your phone and no longer be able to click on a 30 minute pinely video
@anjsjaafffjs
@anjsjaafffjs 2 жыл бұрын
You think that’s fast? Talk to my wife abt fast 😂😂😂
@PumaArg
@PumaArg 2 жыл бұрын
It will never cease to amaze me how some people just don't get that social norms aren't always based on random biases but often on just...being a good person? Don't kick my dog and then throw a tantrum about freedom when I get mad at you for it! Really this is something we discussed centuries ago: just like it happens when you live with somebody, living in a community means giving up SOME freedom for some safety, it means that no you cannot go kill your neighbor's family and steal their goat, but instead of fighting for that goat to see who lives another day, you can establish rules to live together and work together to not get eaten by a wolf. A healthy society is meant to have a balance between that freedom and that safety, and imo (and this I think is a popular opinion) those social norms should be based on empathy, equality and the happiness of the community as a whole (and noo, this doesn't mean EVERYONE has to be happy, it means we have to TRY to give everyone a chance at living a decent life). No, it's not a secret scheme made by THE JEWSSSS, it's JUST being a good person.
@KalCounty
@KalCounty Жыл бұрын
Right wing politics is predicated on being a bully to the outgroup and to the poor, and taking everything you can for yourself. The idea of being nice to and helping someone different runs counter to their whole ideology.
@julesbond1089
@julesbond1089 Жыл бұрын
Everything about this. YES! These kind of people get up in arms about people just wanting to be themselves and live their lives. The only things we should stop other people in communities from doing is stuff that actually harms others. Like SA, r*pe, etc. Some random person transitioning to feel more comfortable in their own body is not harming you, no matter how hard u try to convince others it is.
@carboncopy4183
@carboncopy4183 Жыл бұрын
​@@julesbond1089 nobody cares if you want to chop your own willy off. It's the demand of trying to make everybody else believe in their delusions.
@bratatouille
@bratatouille 2 жыл бұрын
I had really bad brain fog yesterday and tried watching this. I thought it was good but really had no idea what you were actually talking about, because I couldn't retain any of the information. Now that I'm feeling better and decided to rewatch this, I find it even better. I guess this shows your videos are both visually pleasing and informative. The vibes are all around good, no matter whether I actually have any idea of what's going on.
@junipermuniper
@junipermuniper 2 жыл бұрын
same thing happened to JKR. she started out with "voicing her concerns", which you could still attribute to ignorance rather than hatred if you really tried, but after "getting cancelled" (losing some twitter followers I guess?) the people supporting her were obviously the transphobes and she has just gotten more radicalized and hateful since.
@thedestroyasystem
@thedestroyasystem 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, was wondering if she was gonna get brought up in the video. She went from at least mildly excusable statements to an outright TERF sending hate to trans creators.
@primrosett
@primrosett 2 жыл бұрын
These days, she straight up rubs elbows with far right white supremacist pundits. It's actually terrifying how quickly she became radicalized on not just terf stuff, but a lot of right-wing politics.
@basboye
@basboye 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedestroyasystem she doesnt just "send hate to trans creators" she influences transphobic legislation in the UK her impact is not just online.
@thedestroyasystem
@thedestroyasystem 2 жыл бұрын
@@basboye ofc, I didn’t mean to minimize her impact. Her behavior both online and offline is horrendous. I just brought up that point in particular because a thoughtful video essayist I follow was recently targeted by her harassment, so it was on my mind. It reminded me of the kind of shit Kalvin Garrah would pull back in the day, which leaded to numerous trans folks being chased off the internet and at least one attempting. So even in the case of “just” online harassment, the impact on the individual can be devastatingly real.
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@basboye god that’s awful 😢 I just hope she gets the help she needs to STOP doing this shit 🤦‍♀️ as you guys said it started with ignorance (so not having all the right facts and assumptions)
@Vampress09
@Vampress09 2 жыл бұрын
Been binge watching your channel past week. I just wanna say I love how much thought you put into camera work even if the content is mainly talking. It makes it a lot more interesting than other channels.
@jadeemarie
@jadeemarie 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 how did you get all that from this comment? 😭
@petrify4814
@petrify4814 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 this sounds a lot like you're projecting because nothing they said implied they were in a bad place.
@chuunyeong
@chuunyeong 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 it’s sad that you give a fuck what people do in their own time
@iCat4Ever
@iCat4Ever 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318?? Literally what
@iCat4Ever
@iCat4Ever 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318?? Who told you he had nothing better to do? Lol
@tinminator8905
@tinminator8905 2 жыл бұрын
Why is talking about antisemitism getting demonitized? Where else would you talk about this issue? The media is way too divisive and will always try to use you for clicks no matter what your opinion. These platforms are literally the only way we have to express our point of view on controversial topics without being pushed into a narrative by someone else.
@spacebassist
@spacebassist 2 жыл бұрын
You really think it'd benefit them to have both sides monetised so in the end, they make a lotta green from a horrible issue
@spacebassist
@spacebassist 2 жыл бұрын
@holding on only to let go the only political affiliation long-lasting companies have is money. I kinda wish these people complaining about everything going "woke" would understand that to companies it's just a trend to cash in on, like hell they care anything about everything going on in that cesspool of a discussion
@spacebassist
@spacebassist 2 жыл бұрын
@holding on only to let go I saw boomers/the boomer mentality a shit ton years ago, almost any comment that mentioned "millennial" would set someone off like a sleeper cell. It's hard to understate how pervasive that kind of shit-talking really was and for a time I agreed with it like a dumbass (I mainly remember this being from 2014-2017, OK boomer was a surprise return and long-deserved) But yeah I'm certain there's at least a dozen cases of manufactured conflict post-2010. Reality shows are a joke so why can't reality itself be one too? I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried spinning millennial v gen z despite the fact that a lot of them seem to want better for us (I'm early gen z), even the "kids don't know what a cassette tape is" is less spiteful coming from them
@soul_waffles_v.2_205
@soul_waffles_v.2_205 2 жыл бұрын
They're starting to understand
@jgpudlum8899
@jgpudlum8899 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin algo giving me this AFTER feeding me the one about how it was stolen. Nice.
@user-ed5sv3vo2o
@user-ed5sv3vo2o 2 жыл бұрын
W PINELY keep up the high quality work
@jkfecke
@jkfecke 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that his mask off moment came with a full mask on.
@yeeyeeyeeye
@yeeyeeyeeye 2 жыл бұрын
The alt-right crowd relies on people feeling isolation from their communities, and when you're rich, privileged, and you have virtually no experience what being marginalized or discriminated against is like, people holding you accountable for using your platform for legitimizing hateful views can feel like a very isolating experience.
@thedestroyasystem
@thedestroyasystem 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very thoughtful way to put it, well said!
@arubinojr5670
@arubinojr5670 2 жыл бұрын
@@stratosphere2323 People somewhere in the world saying all those hurty-wordy do in fact make feelings hurty and, by the transitive property, make tummies hurty as well. You know who else made people's feelings hurt? A little fellow called... Hitler.
@arubinojr5670
@arubinojr5670 2 жыл бұрын
@@stratosphere2323 And unrelated to that, he also made those comments and coincidentally also became friends with loads and loads of white supremacists who were trying to bring even him back from the brink. Whoopsy-doodle!
@cantthinkofaname5046
@cantthinkofaname5046 2 жыл бұрын
@@stratosphere2323no one is genuinely asking for that right now, but hey, men of straw burn faster.
@cantthinkofaname5046
@cantthinkofaname5046 2 жыл бұрын
@@stratosphere2323 boo hoo, widdle Kanye has some people saying mean things online. He is an independent adult capable of his own decisions, he chose a path that gave way to his worst thoughts and ideas, that is on him and him alone. Are you seriously trying to baby a man in his forties? I never cared about Kanye or his controversies, even back when he first came out as a trump supporter, I didn’t care because it’s just being a republican, whatever, he’s a Nazi now, capital N too. Why will you just everything this guy does? Note how I haven’t insulted you yet, so cool your head before replying if you do.
@Cilreilly
@Cilreilly 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely phenomonal video essay. Really enjoyed it and liked how you are able to be impartial throughout all your videos. Will 100% be supporting you on Patreon. Excited to see what you do in 2023
@crestren5996
@crestren5996 2 жыл бұрын
The entirety of the whole "cancel culture" by celebrities like Gina can be summed up as this: *Puts out idiotic statement*, *Is shocked by the backlash*
@bella-yy5zu
@bella-yy5zu 2 жыл бұрын
Here to support your video! Great analysis and style :)
@CrabyMan
@CrabyMan 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for covering something like this. It's so weird how fast things have changed. I'm only 22 going on 23 and still remember how in high school if someone generally liked Hitler or started spouting conspiracies about Jews ruling the world it was very easy to debunk or just point out the evidence that ots obviously not the case. Now you have people who are on the fence about it. Even wilder is why I do still think of celebs as just people, the idea that you can claim to be a truther or care about free speech, but then get mad when others don't agree with you, then going straight to the mindset of it must be a takeover plot by (enter minority here) is crazy to me. Like Daily Wire is a walking contradiction, I don't even want to get started on peeps like Matt Walsh or Ben being bullied in his own show while his co partners talk about jews being secret evil organization. Like back when I was in high school, you straight up wouldn't be taken seriously due to the fact people understood there's no evidence from this and actually thought about how folks believing this shit only do because there's something to gain or they're being played.
@gabriel-gk5eh
@gabriel-gk5eh 2 жыл бұрын
And then acuse company owned websites of censorship 🤣😭
@generalbanana1885
@generalbanana1885 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a time where the only good Gina Corano performance was that one line in Deadpool where Colossus is flustered and tells her that she's having a wardrobe malfunction and she shows honest appreciation to Colossus for letting her know about it because in that one scene she managed to sound sincere.....Other than that Gina's been a dogshit actress so all I can say is Ben Shapiro can keep her.
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a second She was in DEADPOOL?!
@peachysandie
@peachysandie 2 жыл бұрын
@@gracekim1998 yeah, she was Angel, the sidekick of Ajax
@skybite
@skybite 2 жыл бұрын
A Neo Nazi incel, in a what’s app group that I used to be in, wishes that Gina Carano plays “good guy” Stormfront.
@Doubtfulgrace101
@Doubtfulgrace101 2 жыл бұрын
@skybite lmao, wasn't she already their good guy? Guess he didn't appreciate the actually talented actress who plays her being Jewish.
@skybite
@skybite 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doubtfulgrace101 that Neo nazi incel hates Jews for some reason despite using Ben Shapiro as a deflection.
@goodwillfidgetspinner
@goodwillfidgetspinner 2 жыл бұрын
love the color grading on this dawg it’s so good
@SuperMustache555
@SuperMustache555 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for advocating for Jewish people, Pinely. As a young Jew, I look up to you for the way you advocate for our community in the face of rising antisemitism
@cdm966
@cdm966 8 ай бұрын
I think the saddest thing to me about Kanye siding with these people is that they specifically go out of their way to appeal to people who are kinda outsiders and people who deal with mental illness, and Kanye has always been outspoken about his mental illness. It's like seeing their shitty tactics work on even someone as big as Kanye is just depressing.
@chris_troiano
@chris_troiano 2 жыл бұрын
Holocaustization is how Godwin’s Law often manifests, I think. As long as people have argued on the internet, conversations have inevitably led to Hitler.
@ash-is-napping
@ash-is-napping 2 жыл бұрын
Second this
@killaerial
@killaerial 2 жыл бұрын
yo pinely, i love these vids that you do, keep up the good work homie
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 2 жыл бұрын
Part of Kanye's turn into a Trump supporter was his nature as a contrarian, but he also felt very identifyed with Trump because they're both narcissistic billionaries. Is true that Kanye has genuine talent while Trump is one of those "famous because they're famous" celebrities (most of his business endeavors have failed), but that doesn't matter because Kanye told it exactly like it is: the privilegied 1% are his people now. In Spain there's a saying that goes "the man who is not a Leftist when he's young is an idiot. The man who's still a Leftist once he's old, is also an idiot" I know in English they say something similar, but I preffer the Spanish version because it highlights how a lot of the Right Wing ideology is just about keeping the power for themselves no matter how unfair and inmoral it is, and Kanye West exemplifyes this perfectly.
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this might explain a certain "beret wearing rural idiot" stereotype in Spain as the Basque and Navarrese "right" wing is often little more than socially moderate to conservative soc dems. In reality, the Abertzale are more fools in history for continuing use of violence when it was no longer really necessary for the greater goal of the broader left.
@desertels5119
@desertels5119 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Ye seeing himself in Trump and wanting to retain the advantages of being super rich. Does Spain do polling around ages and voting alignment? In the UK and US current data is suggesting Millenials are getting more left leaning as they get older, wondering if that second part of the saying will die over the time.
@anassortmentofplaylists2058
@anassortmentofplaylists2058 2 жыл бұрын
I think in the US the saying is “if you’re not a republican when you’re old you have no brain, but if you aren’t a democrat when you’re young you have no heart.” To which upon hearing this for the first time, my dad, a republican in his youth and a democrat now, was extremely confused.
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina Жыл бұрын
@@desertels5119 funnily enough, a recent poll seems to indicate that people from the Babyboomer generation gravitate towards the center-left because the "Socialist Workers of Spain" party is the one who advocates more for benefits for the retirees (two things for context. 1- Spain's doesn't have an electoral college so it has between 4 and 6 political parties big enough to have a congress mayority, and 2-like Japan, Spain is experiencing a problem of having more eldery people than young able-to-work people). Also, Spaniard millenials are split between the traditional right and the new leftist parties that see the P.O.S.E. as too entangled with the status quo to actually move society forwards in a progressive direction, abd the Spaniard alt-right is only popular among Gen-Xers (wich makes sense, for what I've seen in the internet, the Spaniards who were born in the 70s and 80s are a rather cynical and bitter bunch)
@squidgirl0413
@squidgirl0413 Жыл бұрын
@@anassortmentofplaylists2058 i think part of why the saying is popular is the financial incentives around conservatism. in the past, it was a surefire way to get respect, and in the present, it's a desperate plea to hold onto what little wealth the economy will let the average person accrue.
@jackoflames
@jackoflames 2 жыл бұрын
While there of course are cases of people who feels pushed away for their bad takes and fall for the cultish "love" of the far-right, many people who start embracing it seem to do it since the far-right at large generally won't question your actions (unless ofc, you say or do anything progressive), their motive being less "I feel alone" and more "I don't want to ever be questioned as it doesn't sit well with my ego". Good video, have a sub!
@appropriate-channelname3049
@appropriate-channelname3049 2 жыл бұрын
but the far left does the same exact shit. Dave chappele is a leftist. The only thing he did wrong in their eyes was call out hypocrisy in the lgbt movement. Gina Carano had a opinion and she was kicked out of her position because she talked about the nazis even though the star of the show made the same exact kind of argument on twitters a couple years back.
@jackoflames
@jackoflames 2 жыл бұрын
@@appropriate-channelname3049 What hypocrisy did Dave Chappelle call out? And yeah, Gina had quite the opinion... “Because history is edited, most people don’t realise that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbours hate them simply for beings Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views.”
@appropriate-channelname3049
@appropriate-channelname3049 2 жыл бұрын
@Jack 'o' Flames 1. gay people are part of the struggle until its inconvenient for them. then they use what privilege they do have against actual minorities. 2. lgbtq community online is nothing but the hate mob they claim to fight against. When they don't like something they can be just as hateful and terrible as the people they oppose. 3. with Gina Carano the excuse they used to fire her was she made the nazi tweet even though Pedro made tbe exact same argument but with a different topic. Alot of people on both sides can't stand opposing poltical opinions. for example on the Trans issue your consider transphobic if you don't support kids transition. Maga people will crucify anyone that dosent agree with Trump 100 percent etc..m
@jackoflames
@jackoflames 2 жыл бұрын
@@appropriate-channelname3049 1 and 2. The issue people I've heard of was his transphobia. 3. I got no clue what this other person said, but doesn't nullify what she did. If you wanna argue that the other person should've been fired too, go for it. And yes, not supporting trans kids transitioning is transphobic, just as not supporting gay kids dating one-another is homophobic. Social transition is the first part of any serious transition, and is the only thing a pre-pubesant kid does. After that is puberty blockers, which while ofc got side effects, most that people claim as risks are either those of HRT, and/or from conditions that cis kids taking them have. At the same time, some may do top surgery. Cis teens do them more than trans teens, and neither group reportedly fare worse from getting them than not. Then we got HRT, which usually is around 18 years old, so they can go through the puberty more fitting them. And after that, as they are over 18 or very rarely just under and have gone through lots of legal and medical hoops, they can do a bottom surgery. And mark of these, a trans person might only do the social transition and happy with it. They might do all the rest, none of the others, or just one of them. I will ask you; If you are so worried about teens being hurt and think that's what those people worry about, do you and them talk against things like High School Sports teams, like American Football teams? There, teens get horribly hurt for life, get no payment, and might lose their chances on future sport dreams while making rich people richer. Since if you and they only complain about causes which are proven in data to help the life quality of the vast majority within one group of minors , but don't complain when nearly half of another group of minors get exploited for profit and get severely hurt, then your focus clearly isn't the well being of minors.
@appropriate-channelname3049
@appropriate-channelname3049 2 жыл бұрын
@Jack 'o' Flames 1. 2. you see he is just called transphobic by people who haven't even seen what he said that got him called transphobic and it's just kinda accepted by lots of people. 3. I'm going to be honestly I belive medical transitioning and hormones kinda go against what being Trans is. If you accept that gender is just a human concept and that gender roles and all that's other crap are just bs then what's the point of transitioning? Why should we support people who have a unhealthy image of themselves in getting massive invasive surgery and taking body altering hormones. If a girl wants breast implants to look more feminine and threatens to kill herself if she doesn't get that gender affirming care would you get her breast implants or would you get her help? We should be teaching kids to accept their own bodies and to not hate their own bodies. We shouldn't push that because a kid is out of the norm for their sex that they should change their gender. Also your misinformed if you think hormone treatment and puberty blockers are temporary and have no longterm effects.
@holybathook
@holybathook 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm just going to go straight to the og video when ever I see a react channel post it now.
@susanmclare
@susanmclare 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work! I’ve been morbidly fascinated/alarmed with why so many people are willingly jumping into these rabbit holes full of bigotry and this just provided a big puzzle piece! Imagine being in a space where everybody is welcome you with open arms, accepting you, celebrating you, telling you how brave and right and smart and good you are… it sounds pretty nice when you think about it like that! Same reason criminal gangs target kids with difficult home lives: “oh you’re looking for a family? Come over here we got you!” Meanwhile they know that kid is gonna end up dead or in prison. None of these right-wing bobble-heads care what happens to Kanye. They’ll use him for their agenda then throw him away. He’s an adult though. He may be in a vulnerable space but he’s not a lil kid, he has the ability to think critically and he’s chosen to stop doing that in return for unconditional validation. As a former Kanye fan who also has some Jewish heritage- I hear ya dude- this one hurts. It feels like a betrayal not just a disappointment.
@binh
@binh 2 жыл бұрын
man pinely, I love these video essays. But I can't stop wanting a skincare routine
@Pinely
@Pinely 2 жыл бұрын
I just put lotion on my face on the days that I remember to do so, and that's mainly it lol
@tonichan89
@tonichan89 2 жыл бұрын
Being young and having good genes. There you go.
@minikipp8549
@minikipp8549 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad my history teacher was very passionate about my class knowing about the holocaust, every year on the memorial day we would get an assembly on it and I think his passion for us to know and not repeat things from the past is something that all history classes should have and it should be written in the law
@davemale
@davemale 2 жыл бұрын
Watching again to defeat that scam reupload vod channel
@endorkugo
@endorkugo 2 жыл бұрын
dave chapelle became thst way because he felt empowered with every comedy special he came out with. people egging him on, telling him to say what's on his mind, not fact-checking or even calling him out
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby 2 жыл бұрын
yup, he surrounded himself with people who told him he could do no wrong and s*cked him off 24/7 which led to him having a planet sized ego.
@Marcus-ge5lw
@Marcus-ge5lw Жыл бұрын
Keep crying
@levi1929
@levi1929 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm sorry they will demonetize this, so here's my contribution
@Pinely
@Pinely 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!
@MayaMickaMicak
@MayaMickaMicak 2 жыл бұрын
- Original uncle Ben: " With great power comes great responsibility." - This uncle Ben: "With great power comes great irresponsibility."
@DONKFORTRESS6956
@DONKFORTRESS6956 2 жыл бұрын
"With great power comes great power-tripping"
@skybite
@skybite 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man to Homelander: “Wait!!! We shouldn’t do this!!! With great powers, comes great responsibility.” (Then gets killed by Homelander immediately)
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 2 жыл бұрын
The other Uncle Ben: "With 20 minutes and two cups of water comes hot rice."
@imHAKUU
@imHAKUU 2 жыл бұрын
hasL this was great to watch! appreciate all your effort and hard work!
@stephaniec2892
@stephaniec2892 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I came across your content. I love your takes and story-telling style
@user-unfriendly_-o-
@user-unfriendly_-o- 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Exited to watch this one. You always have such stylish and original visuals.
@CaptainPrincess
@CaptainPrincess 2 жыл бұрын
put simply, if youre still able to say your piece on stage and have the news report your words to the masses, youve not been "cancelled" get over it
@pingu8826
@pingu8826 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for talking abt this, as a trans person dave chappelles continued success still makes me feel like shit when i think about it. i hate the way these people repeatedly complain about cancel culture but there cancelation usually boosts their standing in republican/conservitive circles.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 2 жыл бұрын
Then u didn’t get the message. Try watching chappelle again.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 2 жыл бұрын
N could it be more centrist are agreeing with Dave because he is right.
@thedestroyasystem
@thedestroyasystem 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Rowling, too. And I hate how people (^ looking at you 🙄) continue to defend them with every ounce of their being. Transphobia is never okay. Not when you’re trying to be funny, not when you’re trying to “defend women”, not when you’re leftist or centrist or rightist, *never*.
@renaissancewoman3770
@renaissancewoman3770 2 жыл бұрын
@@npcimknot958 the message is clear. You're even saying the message in your comments. It's probably not the case that more centrists believe it because it is right, centrists don't really operate that way from what I've seen. And he's not right.
@d3adxb0yxwalk1ng
@d3adxb0yxwalk1ng 2 жыл бұрын
@@stratosphere2323 jealous of what? being a transphobe? being unfunny? i'm fine where i am, thanks
@ToasterUnknown
@ToasterUnknown 2 жыл бұрын
Watched, liked, subscribed and commented. I hope that bot farm get's taken down soon. Great video.
@Jomikk
@Jomikk 2 жыл бұрын
love the video brother. sorry that some channels are stealing your hard work.
@giantwoman4958
@giantwoman4958 2 жыл бұрын
Has there ever been a rich person/celebrity that has done something worth being "canceled", that hasn't double down on the original behavior? Lordt🙄
@albstare
@albstare 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there have been several who apologized and/or expressed remorse for their past actions, they just get absolutely nothing out of it because the vast majority of the cancel mob never forgives them anyway and they also don't benefit from the counter-cancelers' support. Just look at Liam Neeson and Al Franken off the top of my head.
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
@@albstare yeah because Liam Neeson is now bankrupt and can’t show his face in public. He acted in 3 movies this year and has 6 projects in the works (wiki) and he also has a net worth of just shy of $150 million. So how has being “cancelled” (or yano, rightfully called out for being a weird racist) affected his career or life? Or do you just like lamenting for millionaires who give 0 f*cks about you for shits and giggles
@albstare
@albstare 2 жыл бұрын
@@starlight8554 you're missing the point entirely. The thing he was "cancelled" for in the first place was sharing racist thoughts he'd had like 20 years ago *in the context of explicitly denouncing that way of thinking*, so even if he didn't suffer all that much the message it sends is still "don't publicly own up to your past mistakes because you'll just be punished for it." So if that's the lesson public figures take away from cases like this (admittedly the Al Franken one is a better example), it shouldn't be that surprising for "cancelled" public figures to double down on whatever their issue was instead of admitting fault.
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
@@albstare but I’m asking how being “cancelled” or reproached for his actions affected him? And your last sentence just goes to show the point of this conversation is moot anyways. If your takeaway from this whole thing is that people can just say “oh but that was in the past” as if it absolves them of being called out then that’s your problem. He was a fully grown adult with critical thinking skills when he did what he did so like… how many excuses are you going to pull out of your ass for this grandpa. And idk who Al Franken is. I’m not American, I’m Irish.
@FrancisR420
@FrancisR420 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Seuss
@youraveragespoon8085
@youraveragespoon8085 2 жыл бұрын
Grumbo has to be the most based character in the Pinely Cinematic Universe
@rachelflickinger102
@rachelflickinger102 2 жыл бұрын
Pinely really has a fantastic video style, it’s really cool. Also I appreciate that he’s talking about these kinds of thing because I feel like he has experiences he can share with other people and that’s awesome. Keep it up ❤
@shrugsmemes917
@shrugsmemes917 2 жыл бұрын
i'd also like to add one thing about kanye: didn't all of this begin when he was off his meds? the guy's bipolar, right? i swear to god that happend
@sera.tonin.
@sera.tonin. 2 жыл бұрын
this video is incredible, clearly so much effort was put into making something so high quality. excited to watch more of your content!
@4karma860
@4karma860 2 жыл бұрын
boosting you so the original video gets more popular than the repost 😊
@ssshampoo
@ssshampoo 2 жыл бұрын
If people are being sexist, racist, prejudice, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, etc, they don’t deserve a platform. Period. If they learn, apologize, and drastically change their behaviour for the better. Fine by me. Nonetheless, I will not tolerate hate. Not one bit.
@pugdad2555
@pugdad2555 2 жыл бұрын
That needs to be part of their punishment. To go back to their platform and apologize and have the people they attacked take over the attacker’s platform like podcasts and other things. A good example would be Alex Jones, imagine if the parents were able to take over his shows as part of his court punishment? How that would get to those who listen to him lol.
@hurri.
@hurri. 2 жыл бұрын
their only platform should be a platform where they are set up to be mocked
@ssshampoo
@ssshampoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@pugdad2555 true true good points!
@ssshampoo
@ssshampoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@hurri. absolutely!
@necrosteel5013
@necrosteel5013 2 жыл бұрын
Those things aren't entirely objective crimes with quantifiable results. I don't support malice but I don't accept the sentiment of Puritanism I see in this comment. Learn to tolerate things you hate and understand before you start silencing people like a zealot
@_INKY_THE_IDIOT
@_INKY_THE_IDIOT Жыл бұрын
Mfs be complaining about cancel culture and then they start saying slurs
@Maxgabbymeow13
@Maxgabbymeow13 11 ай бұрын
I am 7 minutes into the video, and while I am enjoying the dive so far, I just had to comment that I loved your ad read so much. The fact you didn't advertise shaving as a gendered concept and just recommended it to "anyone who shaves" really means a lot. Hearing a lot of YT ad reads that target shaving as a manly product and whatnot, hearing a lot of products that gender shaving, and knowing a lot of people in the trans community (myself included) who are often excluded in super binary, shaving ad reads, it was incredibly refreshing to just have shaving advertised to the broad public. Thank you so much; I've watched several of your videos I've enjoyed and that gave me that final push to hit subscribe instantly. Thank you! Now, I'm going to keep enjoying the video after having rewatched that ad read a couple times and texting my friends (who also lament gendered shaving ads) about how cool it was~
@Maxgabbymeow13
@Maxgabbymeow13 11 ай бұрын
I watched the rest of the video, and I appreciate you talking about such uncomfortable subjects in a way that can be understood well and help ease you into it- the pacing of the video was great for this! It's a hard watch due to the content discussed, but I'm glad I watched it to the end. Thank you for making it!
@mywadi
@mywadi 2 жыл бұрын
Celebrities make hella money off our opinions of them then act like it's an injustice when they do toxic shit and the public reacts accordingly.
@outlawruby
@outlawruby 2 жыл бұрын
Public opinion has destroyed celebrities and pundits for having disagreeable takes for as long as public opinion has existed. Cancel culture isn’t new, it’s just a lot easier to do with the internet.
@mywadi
@mywadi 2 жыл бұрын
@@outlawruby YES. I mean, even think about the satanic panic. That is just a different flavor of cancel culture.
@easingthroughspace194
@easingthroughspace194 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always funny to me when a celebrity complains about getting fired from a job for little to no reason when millions of Americans go through it every year and there’s usually less reason given to them.
@jakebreakshow
@jakebreakshow 2 жыл бұрын
"I've been canceled!" Say the rich elites who speak freely about everything anywhere they can! Love your content, first video, hopefully not the last. Subbin.
@SwitchingRooskies
@SwitchingRooskies 2 жыл бұрын
Showing my support over the clip channel drama. Here's a sub. Keep up the good work!
@sikdude4044
@sikdude4044 Жыл бұрын
your videos are so good, your editing, music and commentary is so well done. Im so glad I found your channel
@notaperson9831
@notaperson9831 2 жыл бұрын
COMMENTING TO BOOST YOU IN THE ALGO! We’re with u Pinely 💜
@lizabey
@lizabey 2 жыл бұрын
5:31 In her defence, the dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities; some consider to be unnatural.
@rosamy2017
@rosamy2017 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos Pinely. I wish I had your energy and thick skin.
@KariNicholsPhotographer
@KariNicholsPhotographer 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video. Thank you for making such a well laid out video.
@ToNaRrisTheNomadDev
@ToNaRrisTheNomadDev 2 жыл бұрын
pinely amazing work... appreciate your work
@skibid1izzy
@skibid1izzy 6 ай бұрын
I’m German and I hate when ppl make comparisons to the holocaust bc here in Germany we learn extensively abt it and we also visited a concentration camp last year and when you really know that much abt it it’s disgusting when ppl make comparisons bc I don’t think they understand just how truly horrible it was
@brokengirlsrus
@brokengirlsrus 2 жыл бұрын
Pinely been releasing straight bangers lately tho
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
Bangers?
@spacebassist
@spacebassist 2 жыл бұрын
@@starlight8554 bc he got it in the bag
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
@@spacebassist oooh never heard this term before. Than you :)
@brokengirlsrus
@brokengirlsrus 2 жыл бұрын
@@starlight8554 Oof it was supposed to be bangers I fixed it now 🥴
@spacebassist
@spacebassist 2 жыл бұрын
@@brokengirlsrus aw shit man, the heart went away. what a great™ feature that is
@JonWintersGold
@JonWintersGold 2 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro always sounds like someone pushed the fast forward button whenever his mouth opens.
@kidamnesiak1
@kidamnesiak1 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in America, there was of course plenty of bigotry to be seen. But it was predominantly racial prejudice and homophobia, along with the usual misogyny. It never seemed like antisemitism was anywhere near as common, even among the most ignorant people. Not that it wasn't around, but definitely far less common than other types of hate. Maybe it was because the US directly fought the Nazis and we were very aware of the Holocaust and it's evils. But we always forget the important lessons of history with time. This is why speech like Kanye's IS very dangerous. It can easily ramp up even more dimensions of hate in the mainstream. I also see Jewish identity being conflated with being liberal or leftist more and more. They basically use the two concepts interchangeably, as in "Their" agenda is Marxism/liberals & leftists are pushing "their" agenda".
@Blue74
@Blue74 2 жыл бұрын
Are you Jewish? If not, you will obviously not have the same experiences as Jews in this department. Not to mention how so many people simply do not notice antisemitism if it isn't in the blatant Nazi propaganda style.
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
Antisemitism has always been a problem, it’s just that it’s more acceptable to be loud about it. Also the US didn’t fight the n*zis because their ideologies didn’t align. Like all wars the US stepped in to make profit, not to “save” anyone. This goes for all the Allied powers. H*tler based his lebensraum theory on the US’s genocide of the natives. I’m just saying all this to say America has always been this bad (if not worse) throughout its history. You just notice it more now.
@dadbodenvy4247
@dadbodenvy4247 2 жыл бұрын
It's really just one conspiracy that they just switch to whatever minority community they feel like putting in the crosshairs at the time
@marvin2678
@marvin2678 2 жыл бұрын
you dont seem to be informed
@nbeezy2424
@nbeezy2424 2 жыл бұрын
much love from the azmun cummunity
@Arualiaa
@Arualiaa 2 жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder that Gina Carano wasn’t just firing spicy hot takes on twitter: she publicly mocked her co-star Pedro Pascal’s usage of pronouns on his handle IN SUPPORT OF HIS TEENAGE TRANS SISTER. She also allegedly got arrested for beating the shit out of a young trans man alongside a relative of hers, but if I recall correctly said young man dropped the charges for some reason. (gee, I wonder why? When he has to face a celebrity in court who can afford the best attorneys money can buy? It’s a mystery) So uh… yeah, shit’s not good.
@Yea___
@Yea___ Жыл бұрын
If you cant consent to sex, you cant consent to a sex change
@Snacks256
@Snacks256 Жыл бұрын
@@Yea___ Being trans is not the same as getting a sex change operation.
@kirrb-dot-exe
@kirrb-dot-exe 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the community post with the fox puppet makes sense now
@Arosukir6
@Arosukir6 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Belated Hanukkah, Orr! Well-explained radicalization process right here.
@anii2987
@anii2987 2 жыл бұрын
When they say unbiased they literally mean from an evangelical Christian perspective. Anything non-christan, these people consider biased or radical.
@x0cx102
@x0cx102 Жыл бұрын
love this video, definitely deserves more views than videos that praise dave chappelle for "refusing to be cancelled"
@chesbaret
@chesbaret Жыл бұрын
The real fear of being cancelled isnt the cancellation or being exposed, its the fact that they have to go back to being a wage labourer that they fear
@carreb
@carreb 2 жыл бұрын
"where truth and entertainment are the only agendas" uses a picture of matt walsh from the cover of what is a woman
@Belly_Beane
@Belly_Beane 2 жыл бұрын
This video is great! I’m sorry some dipshit is stealing your hard work and money. You have a new subscriber.
@Cadette4448
@Cadette4448 2 жыл бұрын
idk why but i only realized now you are the same pinely box guy, holy shit what a glow up
@Yes-its-Jess
@Yes-its-Jess Жыл бұрын
I recently rediscovered your content and I'm impressed by how much you've grown! thank you for putting out a video that was not only well though-out but also engaging about this topic
@velveetaenthusiast
@velveetaenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
One of my cats many nicknames is grumbo and she was in a dead sleep and then you said "grumbo" and she's awake now. It's so hard to put her down for a nap.
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