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@jm-bv1wh2 жыл бұрын
Karl, you endured torture to bring us this incredibly helpful, real-world video. That's what we love about you - you sacrifice yourself to give us the info that we need. Thank you!
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go so far as to say torture, but yeah, I really didn't want to do it on the day. However once I got going it was ok. Whilst there are videos out there showing how to use these flotation tools, they come across as well rehearsed and practiced. I've felt it was important to see the reality of trying these for the first time, and this is in pretty calm conditions. It is my intention to practice a bit more with these until I can do them more fluidly 👍😊
@jm-bv1wh2 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I like the ones where they're standing on the bottom in shallow water.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@jm-bv1wh haha yeah it kinda defeats the object 😏😁
@denisemckenna38852 жыл бұрын
Great advice and mantra, "Your boat is Your float.".
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denise 😊 yes the mantra works well doesn't it 👍
@StevesOutdoorCameraAdventures022 күн бұрын
karl absolutely well done and amusing
@MoreThanJustaCleaner22 күн бұрын
@@StevesOutdoorCameraAdventures0 Cheers buddy 👍😁
@almmes111 ай бұрын
Great video. I like the non-pro way doing your things. I guess the struggle is pretty common among many cayakers
@MoreThanJustaCleaner11 ай бұрын
No one shows you the struggles you might have, i guess because they only want to look good. Personally I prefer to show the reality 👍😁
@dianadom474211 ай бұрын
Thanks For This! Really Fun To Watch. :) Think Your Friend Finds This Very Entertaining. LOL. You Cracked It! Cheerio!
@MoreThanJustaCleaner11 ай бұрын
You're welcome, and I hope you found it useful? Yes, I think my friends all think I'm a bot bonkers :D
@grahamashby14092 жыл бұрын
10 out of 10 mate, not least for the discomfort and persistance. You even got back in the Story! Very useful.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's good to know that getting back in the Story is doable 👍😁
@molsi012 жыл бұрын
REALLY useful mate. The dry bag tip is brilliant 👏👏👏
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Si :) It was inspired by the cool box/bag idea I saw on YT. I figured it was something we'd be more likely to have with us!
@davidtalbot491 Жыл бұрын
I did say you are a Breath of fresh air on KZbin great vids all of them .I was knackered watching you 👍
@MoreThanJustaCleaner Жыл бұрын
Haha cheers David 👍😁
@ResQuetzal2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an amazing demonstration! All these inflatables are amazing boats on their own. Certainly, I would want one that didn't let me fall in so easily in the first place. Still love the GoPlus. Roomy and less of a tragedy if you fall in because getting in is relatively easy to get back in. Thanks for the educational but cold demonstration.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words 😊 I'm glad you've found this useful, especially as it was indeed cold 👍
@rockykoast706510 ай бұрын
Please read to the end! That life-jacket really seems to be working against you; a full life-jacket (which it seems you have there) is designed to keep you afloat on your back, with your face above water to enable you to breathe, even if unconscious. So it's making your feet swing under the boat. From what I've read, you need to get your feet out behind you and give a big kick & heave at the same time. (I've also tried this wit a sit-on kayak). I wear a boyancy aid rather than a life-jacket. The wet suit is also tending to float your legs up; combined with life-jacket, often floating your legs up under the kayak- from that position its just about impossible to get back in. The only way I got back in the sit-on was near the back of the kayak, so I wasn't tipping it onto me as much; though I managed it eventually in very calm water, it was still very difficult - not something I'd want to try if I was cold, tired in a choppy sea! My Intex K1 kayak, on the other hand, I find it much easier to get into -it seems to resist tipping towards you a lot more & being more flexible the side is lower when you're dragging yourself back onboard (I'm 67, living with cancer and an associated neuropathy which mostly affects my legs). PS. I'm getting into the habit of tying the paddle to the kayak....& if I go on the sea or large lake 21:21 I think I'll make sure I'm tethered to the kayak too! In any breeze, your kayak can blow away faster than you can swim! (I aso have a vhf & waterproof mobile phone in the inside pockets of my buoyancy aid for extra security)
@MoreThanJustaCleaner10 ай бұрын
Thanks for such an in-depth reply 👍😁
@grahamharkness57442 жыл бұрын
excellent clip Karl. Your lessons here could be life savers. Well done.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Graham. The paddle float does work differently on these (as I thought it might) than with a lower profile hard-shell.
@Mark--Todd2 жыл бұрын
Fair play. Top effort. I was surprised you didn't clip the dry bag onto the paddle just like the paddle float. I learned a lot watching, so thanks for the video
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it's helpful... I thought about clipping the drybag to the paddle but I reckon it would ride up as the paddle dipped in the water. The paddle float is made to make sure that doesn't happen.
@paddlingnorfolk67892 жыл бұрын
Fair play to you fella, that looks exhausting. So good to see content that will help build folks confidence, whilst keeping it real. Grand job 👍🏻
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Cheers! I appreciate that. When it comes to things like this the available content is all by people well practiced. I felt it was important to show the reality of the learning experience :)
@damienmayne72052 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, since it worked well for me...but entering those inflatables from the stern of the kayak is far easier, it keeps most of it floating and the sides, if they have handles on either side (like mine does), are easier to grab onto and pull yourself in bodily, slithering and wriggling onto the kayak. Try it next time!
@damienmayne72052 жыл бұрын
I go out equipped with fins, snorkel mask and wetsuit; nanoprene boots, gloves and head covering, too, so I often jump in and tow my kayak as I swim. Just to stretch a little, to cool down, or escape the rain. So I learnt the hard way how to get back on board during huge swells.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@damienmayne7205 the problem I've got isc as much as love being on the water I'm not great IN it. Because of my facial paralysis I have no control over the 'stopper' that stops water flowing through your nose into your lungs when underwater. As soon as I'm underwater I'm effectively drowning. Back to your point about entering from the end. In the 1st video of this series I tested my boats stability and tried getting back in. I did this without doing any research because I wanted to get a feel for the situation. I did happen to get in the Pea Pod from the end but the high sided Jackanory is nigh on impossible cos it just keeps flipping. Nevertheless, your advice is certainly valid for certain crafts 😁👍
@damienmayne72052 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I hear you, you know what you're doing. Maybe you should look into buying some nose clamps, like the ones the synchronised swimmers use? that way you'll not feel so under pressure while in water trying to get back in. As for the high sided ones, as I said earlier about being left in a paddling pool after being swamped, don't be afraid to get quite a bit of water on board while flipping them enough to climb in. They're quite good at staying afloat, and sturdy too. Just force yourself in, water be damned as you can pump it out or let it flow through the drainage. Most of those inflatables have a high weight threshold (mine is 230kgs), so they can take a bit of weight in water without sinking.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@damienmayne7205 absolutely! There's no way they're going under even with a full cockpit. I do need to get a bilge pump at some point 👍
@damienmayne72052 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner Manual Bilge Pump for Boats Kayak Canoe Hand Water Pump. Search for this on a certain site that can't be mentioned or the comment disappears again, it begins with A. It's the best of the lot.
@StevesOutdoorCameraAdventures09 ай бұрын
Really good practice and I did laugh, I just hope I never have to do it Well done
@MoreThanJustaCleaner9 ай бұрын
Cheers, yeah we should all practice this :D
@rambledogs20122 жыл бұрын
I forgot about the POTC bit and just laughed like hell when it came up. Despite us both not feeling it, it turned out alright actually.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
The POTC bit also made me laugh too. Aye it turned out ok 👍😁
@ianewen63392 жыл бұрын
Life vest is a must ,I never go out without it.... Although they can make getting back into these inflatables tricky... Always have two sets of paddles, bilge pump , dry bags, myself all connected to kayak by various lines... Hard hat is also good protection from head injury's from capsize and rocks. Personal location beacon, Whistle , torch, knife, fixed to your life vest .... Enjoy 👍
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
There are some good tips there 👍😁
@MumaJill2 жыл бұрын
Thanks less of a fear now
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it's helped 👍😁
@bluegreenworld333 Жыл бұрын
Also I usually have a dry bag an empty kayak bag, a pump and a snack bag which doesn't float but usually on a canal. Serious considerations if camping equipment on board too....usually lash stuff but it would be a nuisance
@MoreThanJustaCleaner Жыл бұрын
Good points 👍😁
@kachampong012 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, advice and instruction. Also very entertaining 😁. You have highlighted something we should all do but usually forget in our entusiasm to get on the water. PRACTICE A CAPSIZE PLAN!! I'm off to buy a paddle float. Thank you so much and keep up the good work. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Keni, I'm so glad you found this useful. It's certainly something i intend to practice more too 👍😁
@justvin72142 жыл бұрын
The drybag method worked a peach 👍 I bet you were exhausted after all that testing.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
I was knackered Justin! Especially considering I'd been camping the day before and paddling on a different river!
@HumberFlyer11 ай бұрын
Hi Karl.... I'll be going to chesterfield canal in about an hours time in. Maiden voyage in my new Fohn Adventure. Similar to the Story. I do expect to fall in getting in (time will tell) If you struggled the way you did then I have no chance of getting back in. It won't be an issue on the canal but just wondered about a catastrophe in maybe deeper open water. I just thought watching the vid' what if you went to one of the ends of boat and slid yourself up while holding the sides to keep it balanced..... thinking it through probably not work 😁 Take care, see you at the paddle camp.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner11 ай бұрын
That worked in the Gumotex Twist but that's lower pressure. I think the rigidity of the full DS craft would make the opposite end lift out too much. But I could be wrong. Let me know if it works when you try it 😁👍
@briandouglasmoore44352 жыл бұрын
maby try a padel float combined with a rope loop stirrup near the boat ,it works with hard shell kayaks
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Good idea 👍😁 cheers!
@dpm8192 жыл бұрын
Nice work Karl. True to your word on doing this. Made me consider my options as the Story looks like a challenge to get back onto to.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Yes, it is the more challenging one. I intend to work on these until I'm more fluid at it 👍😊
@dpm8192 жыл бұрын
might be easier to get in as the shark eats more and more of your weight :-P
@dpm8192 жыл бұрын
hard work for your mate on the bank. I'd have well leg swiped him with the paddle after 10mins of bankside driving :-p
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@dpm819 haha you're onto something there 🤪
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@dpm819 🤣🤣🤣
@bluegreenworld333 Жыл бұрын
I'd be exhausted with the Story
@MoreThanJustaCleaner Жыл бұрын
In my experience, that style of boat is definitely the most challenging to get back in 😏 Sold mine!
@ziggywillis12 жыл бұрын
that look so hard lol i 🤣i just drag myself and kayak to side lol 🤣 brilliant video as always bet it was freezing
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Haha it's not easy... But in the wetsuit, not as cold as you might think :)
@ziggywillis12 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner lol brilliant video loved the. K1 I just had to have one
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@ziggywillis1 I wouldn't like to try and get back in a K1. Unless you mean the Explorer and not the Challenger?
@ziggywillis12 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I got the challenger no chance lol and also got a hydro force cove champion both would have to drag to side lol 😂
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@ziggywillis1 so long as there's a strategy 😁👍
@TheWalkingKev2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the real lesson here is 'just use the last boat and avoid tipping over in the first place.'
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 it's a fair point 👍 They're all pretty stable, it's just if you're gonna get tipped out it's more likely in one of the others. The slimmer, high sided one is faster on the water and if you're wanting to cover some distance will always be a better option than the others. It's a bit horses for courses. I'm actually glad I've been in a position to try out lots of different designs and models 😊👍
@geoffknight73222 жыл бұрын
Hi Karl, excellent follow up from last week, and I’m really happy to see that with a “bit” of effort it’s possible to get back into all the boats. You must have been knackered after doing the tests 😳 I may try a combination of the paddle float and dry bag together to give a bit more lift, I’m also thinking that I may make my own paddle float from two kids swim aids, loosely tied together with zip ties, would hopefully be quicker than having to blow to inflate, and finally I wonder if the paddler should be attached to the boat so it doesn’t blow away, but only for large open water, not rivers where you could get trapped by it or in overhanging branches etc.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Geoff. In terms of not losing the boat you can always make better use of the paddle leash. It was quite breezy that day and a lesson learned 👍😁
@intothebridge2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and your great channel. A seakayak-instructor years ago told me always to enter from the rear (or front) - we rented to kayaks for a few hours and had no experience and no gear - so this was a little bit theoretically. I own a gumotext twist2 and tried (warm adriatic sea water, no swim vest) a few days ago to re-enter it from the front (as in the rear are the elastic cords), grabbing the two sides from front and moving me slowly in - grabbing the attachments on the bottom to pull me further in helped. I have to admit that my conditions for the experiment were optimal but it worked at first try. Maybe you try it yourself?
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
In the first video of this little series I did enter the Twist from the front 👍😁
@intothebridge2 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner ups, didn't see that - thanks!
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@intothebridge that's ok 👍 yes, when I first tried getting back in I found it really hard. I accidentally entered the Twist from the front and it worked. However it didn't work with the Story! And that's why I made this follow-up trying different methods that work for all my boats 👍😁
@andythompson60911 ай бұрын
Would the kayaks be easier to get in if you deliberately flooded them partially or even fully. They would sit lower in the water and I guess more resistant to pulling over. Once in bail out the water. Never tried it but maybe worth a try
@MoreThanJustaCleaner11 ай бұрын
That's an interesting idea especially as you're already wet... 🤔
@KayakingVince2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. I notice you always re-entered from the side though. I would love to see how well these boats handle a back deck re-entry without any floats.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
In the first vid of these 2 I did an end entry in the Pea Pod. The Jackanory though is a different beast, higher sides and a narrow finny end makes it slip away.
@KayakingVince2 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I fitted a deck line to the d-rings at the back of my own ironing board, which should help with reentry there. I've yet to test it though. I never use the seat so the d-rings are free for other uses.
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
@@KayakingVince cool idea 👍 I don't use the seat either.
@KayakingVince2 жыл бұрын
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I recommend a taut line hitch to finish it. You can then inflate it and tension the line perfectly
@lowlandlassie26 күн бұрын
What would you change if you had the seats in?
@MoreThanJustaCleaner26 күн бұрын
@@lowlandlassie nothing really. I didn't put the seats in only so I didn't have to dry them out. Potentially the seat straps might have added grab points, but that's it.
@elizabethsumpter91292 жыл бұрын
👍💖
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
😀👍
@luiseschillerl39782 жыл бұрын
thanks so much :) really helpful, as I got the story too. have you watched the seaeagle razorlight re entry video? I tried and failed so far ;) would you recommend the paddle float or the cool box for the story? were did you buy /find the cool box? and how do you fix it at your foot ?
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome 😁 I'd recommend both. The cool bag is just a standard one. I can't even recall where I got that one. Basically as long as it traps air upside down it should help. And all I did was drag the carry strap under the water and step my foot onto it.
@lislarsen1818 Жыл бұрын
I have a Story kajak. And did try self resque today. 1 time ever. But my seat got in my way. Notice you have rem8ved your seat. ?
@MoreThanJustaCleaner Жыл бұрын
I removed it for the purpose of this test because I'd only have to dry it out.
@Noddydc2 жыл бұрын
If this ever happens to anyone, just deflate one of the sides. The kayak will be fine without it, more like a sup board
@MoreThanJustaCleaner2 жыл бұрын
Someone else suggested deflating both sides. Have you tried deflating one side?