Nice work here, Chris! Adding it as a resource for my students this term
@natalijajelicic24086 жыл бұрын
Gregory B. Sadler Your lectures on Hegel ❤️ amazing work!
@GregoryBSadler6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them!
@georgemorton69585 жыл бұрын
small world. i found your channel not too long ago. 10/10 recommendation x
@samkonstan23333 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for a collab 🙏🏻
@hijay85013 жыл бұрын
@@samkonstan2333 same
@eilidhpyre7 жыл бұрын
I'm a first year undergrad taking philosophy. This was really helpful. My lecturer said something similar to your point about interrogation. He said when reading Descartes Meditations imagine it is a booklet that has been given to you by a political party that you hate. That really helped me.
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
That's a good suggestion. Glad this was helpful.
@yeahimthatguy.55796 жыл бұрын
Why would you read like that? Just curious
@jiayizhang46045 жыл бұрын
YeahI'mThat Guy. Carrying a critical mind.
@chadjones63133 жыл бұрын
@@yeahimthatguy.5579 I would think to interrogate the text which sounds like a great idea to me
@theboxygenie2 жыл бұрын
@@yeahimthatguy.5579 Probably so one'll have a sort of 'negative disposition' towards the text, thus resulting in one being able to catch any logic gaps---just being more critical of the text in general.
@robertmorrison16574 жыл бұрын
I am 13 and I have liked philosophy for quite a few months now, however I was severely hindered by the fact that I didn't know how to properly read philosophy books. My dad gave me the book "beyond good and evil" written by Nietzsche, and it was hard for me to read, almost impossible for me to understand. I tried your method, and I understood a lot more and now I understand the true genius of Nietzsche. Thank you very much Sir!
@chainsawmay3 жыл бұрын
holy crap ur dad gave u a super hard philosophy book for a starter
@robertmorrison16573 жыл бұрын
@@chainsawmay well, it was the only one laying around, but we did uncover Ayn Rand books laying in boxes. I am reading her book the new-left and will then read introduction to objectivist epistemology, and then fountain head. I am part Russian, and I know Russian well enough, but not enough for Dostoevsky. For that reason, I am developing it to the point that I could read him in the original. Once my Russian is good enough, I will read his books notes from the underground or maybe one of his other books with Nietzsche. I have heard that reading Nietzsche with Dostoevsky is a really good idea. Sorry for making this so long, but I am just so excited to share my ambitions with someone else 😊.
@MB-pj8sb3 жыл бұрын
Great!...I also started philosophy with Neitzsche. And i found him difficult even at 19, mostly because of his style of writing.
@robertmorrison16573 жыл бұрын
@@MB-pj8sb Same here. I am reading the republic(I am in book 1) and the style of writing is so different, and is quite hard to read. Not your usual fiction book. Would you like to discuss something?
@robertmorrison16573 жыл бұрын
@Caedmon Kline Well my dad was and to an extent is still really into philosophy, and he was a huge objectivist in college. In fact, he was in an objectivist club. He had one of Nietzsche's books laying around. Say, I am reading The Republic right now too. What book are you on? I am on book 1. Want to discuss it? Want to give me your Email and we start a discussion perhaps? Here is my Email: I know it is kind of dumb, but I made it when I was 11. Edit: I find it kind of funny how in Nietzsche's book Beyond Good and Evil, he kind of tells you how to read philosophy in his 6th note or paragraph. He says that you must ask yourself as to what morality the writer or writers are trying to aim at.
@ezequielstepanenko32294 жыл бұрын
"If you don't understand a sentence put a question mark on it" you'll need a hundred pencils to read the prologue of hegel's phenomenology
@discogoth4 жыл бұрын
Looks like this will be the driving force getting me through Hegel!
@hegel58165 жыл бұрын
I am not even a philosophy student but now I got interested in it...
@shaheerziya26316 жыл бұрын
The 4 questions sound like the words of a suicidal person WHat's the point? Why did he even bother? ...
@deadman761115 жыл бұрын
Shaheer ziya LOL
@manishathakur56175 жыл бұрын
Haha so funny
@katolika93574 жыл бұрын
Then you don't understand the value of philosophy
@beebowlasvegas21444 жыл бұрын
😐
@ItsJaseShawty4 жыл бұрын
That's philosophy for you.
@tiergas984 жыл бұрын
This was reccomended to me probably because I watch Philosophy tube. Glad I watched it. Will definitely be using these steps in the future
@ChristopherAnadale4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, thanks!
@Abecenna3 жыл бұрын
Your advice helped me a lot in deciphering beyond good and evil by Nietzsche. Thanks
@ChristopherAnadale3 жыл бұрын
Great, glad to hear it. I also have a video series on BGE that I"m hoping to complete soon. You can check it out here: kzbin.info/aero/PLPCGA67J8M2IsvvxOMikV625KfxgFGJJP
@hunteremery28256 жыл бұрын
I feel squeamish about writing in my beloved books, but you have convinced me to do so in the name of knowledge!!
@NightTimeDay4 жыл бұрын
I add in post it notes! the thing ones fit in the margins
@damonicajones43964 жыл бұрын
I go bezerk when there's writing in a book.
@natbrownizzle38154 жыл бұрын
A friend once told me, that such works are instruments and that they are there to be used, also, qhen you write notes and so on, you can later see your thought process adn how ot changed, you literally can see the evolution of your thinking, which I think, is beautiful.
@michelle_zhao4 жыл бұрын
some people read books and some people own books. those who own books write all over them, dog-earring important pages and underlining key passages!
@joshbaino30873 жыл бұрын
For some reason I prefer when my books are filled with markings, makes me feel like I've understood them better
@kantstop38474 жыл бұрын
Going straight form Yung Leans 'Pikachu' to this was like sprinting across concrete and then into quicksand. Respect for the insightful video tho bruvva.
@JohnDoe-bp5js4 жыл бұрын
Sadboys🏴☠️🏴☠️
@wilcoxandrew884 жыл бұрын
As someone with some experience in academic philosophy, these are great tips if you really care about philosophy! I often find interesting ideas when reading through philosophy texts, but if I don't mark them, I can have a really difficult time finding them later on. I often wish we can easily find a keyword / idea in paper tests, as opposed to electronic texts which have a ctrl+F search feature. using these methods is like a bookmarking method.
@nonameorwhatever4693 жыл бұрын
I'm late to this Video but another important one, especially when getting into philosophy on your own time is to not be afraid of secondary literature. It often contextualizes works, which is useful if you don't have a grip on the history of philosophy (e.g why is kant so important) + it may mention criticism the author or other philosophers have which may change your perspectives on philosophers too (e.g marx's dialectic seemed convincing to me on first read but then I read but then I read in an introduction to dialectics a criticism Adorno had and it immediately made me reconsider my whole understanding of Marxist dialectic)
@xeixi37892 жыл бұрын
If I may ask, what was it that you found unconvincing about Marx's dialectics?
@nate226215 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm going to read 'Beyond Good and Evil' now
@HoangTran-pq5fg4 жыл бұрын
Good job _s good to know you read my superman's book.
@ezequielstepanenko32294 жыл бұрын
I guess he is still reading it
@acoustic2305 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, thank you. For the section on summarising what we’ve read, when you recommend we do this? When we’ve finished an important section, chapter or the entire book? Thank you.
@ChristopherAnadale5 жыл бұрын
Good question! I think summarizing each major section as you finish it is probably best. Make a few notes at least about it before moving on to the next section.
@martinbuenahora81247 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. As someone interested in philosophy (and hopefully a philosopher student next year) this looks very exiting. I'm going to try this out with some articles I printed :)
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
Great! Let me know how it works for you.
@martinbuenahora81247 жыл бұрын
Due to time, I got only through half of one of the articles, but it was a really different reading experience. I feel I retained much more. I used one of those pens that has four colors, using blue for structure, red to highlight important parts, green to sighlight parts I didn't understand, and black to make all the notes. I believe this can help to see all that I write more quickly. Thank you again for this information.
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Good luck.
@MattCrocco5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was seriously helpful. In the first half of this last semester I was doing one slow, methodical read with a highlighter which worked but I admit was a bit painful. Second half of the semester I was getting a bit frustrated and was looking for ideas from methodologies other people use and your's worked the best for me. Thanks for sharing!
@magicpepper4143 жыл бұрын
Lovely and helpful video! I am currently reading Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus :)
@I214766 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I was so frustrated trying to read some books... now I think everything will be easier!
@ChristopherAnadale6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this helpful!
@lolaponce59045 жыл бұрын
I use post it(s) ... variety of colors give you an idea of what’s important to you
@ChristopherAnadale5 жыл бұрын
A grad school classmate of mine used stickynote tape flags in different colors to index works as he read them. Very useful, once completed.
@WeAreEternal557 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I've been reading material in preparation for a thesis, and have been going through the text VERY slowly, although I am gaining a strong grasp of the content. I'm off to buy a copy of the book I've been reading, and shall begin writing in my books from now on! Cheers!
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I hope this method works for you!
@jamccarney67347 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the methodology. It is very useful.
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad you found it helpful.
@thomaswest40334 жыл бұрын
An optional source is to find a PDF online of these texts. Many PDF readers have options for book marks, notes, highliting, and sometimes a loud reading (if you don't mind a robotic voice) Personally I think that your computer reading a loud should only be used after you've read the text as a reminder in your head the knowledge you know.
@SaelSael12Күн бұрын
Just don't write on the library books, only yours. 🙄
@castudil2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thank you so much
@ChristopherAnadale2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@neuronneuron36452 жыл бұрын
How do you teach all of these different philosophies given their conflicting views. The summation creates an incoherent worldview. It's enough to make a person go crazy
@deeptime55814 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is also good advice for any kind of reading, including history, literature, etc.
@ishaan641 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna use this video to dissect Machiavelli’s book “The Prince”
@brownie96203 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants a CHRONOLOGICAL ROADMAP into philosophy, Eastern and Western combined, here's my compilation. - Ancient Indian philosophy - 1. Vedic philosophy (2000 BCE) 2. Samkhya sutras of Kapila (~1500 BCE) atheistic school of dualism. 3. The Principal Upanishads (bw 1000 to 600 BCE) 4. Charvaka philosophy of Brihaspati (pre-1000BCE) - world's oldest atheistic and materialistic philosphy. The original Brihaspati Sutras didn't survive. 5. The Nyaya Sutras of Aksapada Goutama (7th century BCE - World's oldest complete book on logic and epistemology) 6. Bhagvad Gita (~500 BCE) 7. Mimansa Philosophy - the principal text woukd be Mimamsa sutra of Jamini (4th-century BCE) 8. Vaisheshika sutra of Kanada ( 7th century BCE - among others these sutras hypothesised the breakdown of matter into atoms and subatoms - Anu and Paramanu) 9. Yoga Sutras of Patanjali (bw 500BCE - 400 CE) 10. Samkhyakarika of Ishvar Krishna (~350 CE) 11. Jain philosophy - outlined in the Tattvārthasūtra of Umaswati (possibly between 2nd-century and 5th-century CE) 12. Buddhist philosophy - important texts include those of the Mahayana sect - Mahaprajnaparamita sutra, Maha Ratnakuta sutra, Sandhinimochana sutra, Amitabha sutra, Vimalakriti sutra, Lankavatara Sutra, Shurngama Sutra, Avatamsaka Sutra, Mahaparinirvana sutra, and Saddharma pundarika sutra. 13. Sociopolitical philosophy - Arthashastra of Chanakya (4th century BCE) 14. Ajivika philosophy - the original scriptures are lost. Hellinistic - 1. Thales of Miletus (624/623-548/545 BCE) - the father of ancient Greek philosophy. 2. Pythagoras (570 BCE) 3. On Nature by Parmenides (560 BCE - 510 BCE ) 4. Anaxagoras (500 BC-428 BCE) - the first to establish a philosophy in its entirety in Athens. 5. Zeno (490 BC-430 BC) 6. Empedocles (490 BC-430 BC) 7. Socrates (470 - 399 BCE - all of him. This man's THE man ) 8. Democritus (460 - 370 BCE - famous for his atomifc theory among others) 9. Plato, (born 428/427 - 348/347 BCE) 10. Aristotle (384-322 BCE ) Classical Chinese philosophy - 1. Daodejing of Lao Tzu (5th century) 2. Analects of Confucius (475-220 BCE) 3. Zhuangzi (476-221 BCE) 4. Mencius (3rd century BCE) 5. Xun Kuang (314-235 BCE) Classical Roman philosophy - 1. Lucretius (88- 55 BCE) 2. Cicero (106 - 43 BCE) 3. Seneca the Younger (BCE 4- 65 AD) 4. Pliny The Elder (23-79) 5. The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius (121-180) 6. Porphyry of Tyre ( 233- 305) 7. Augustine (354-430) 8. Hypatia (370-415) 9. Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius (470/75-524) Islamic philosophy - 1. Abū Bakr Muhammad ibn Zakariyyā al-Rāzī (854 CE - 925 CE) Famed doctor, chemist, and philosopher. First person to describe smallpox and measles as separate diseases and author of the first book on pediatrics. 2. ArA ahl al-madīna al-fāḍila (The Views of the People of The Virtuous City) by Al-Farabi (872-951 AD) 3. Saadia Gaon (882 CE - 942 CE) 4. Yahya ibn Adi (893 CE - 974 CE) Logic theorist and doctor 5. Avicenna (980 CE - 1037 CE) Persian Polymath that is often regarded as the single greatest thinker of the Islamic Golden age. 6. Ihya Ulum al-Din - The Revival of Religious Sciences by Al-Ghazzali (1058-1111 AD) 7. Ibn Rushd (1126-1198 AD) - aka Averroes. 8. Sohrevardi (1154 CE - 1191 CE) Founder of the Islamic school of Illuminationism. 9. Tafsir Al-Kabeer of Fakhr al-Din al-Razi (1149 CE - 1209 CE) 10. Ibn Arabi (1165-1240 AD) the first Islamic postmodern and feminist thinker. Medieval European and Renaissance era philosophy - 1. Augustine (354-430) 2. Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius (470/75-524) 3. Saint Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109) - the originator of the ontological argument for the existence of God 4. Scholasticism - 13th and 14th century - Some of the main figures of scholasticism include Anselm of Canterbury (“the father of scholasticism"), Peter Abelard, Alexander of Hales, Albertus Magnus, Duns Scotus, William of Ockham, Bonaventure, and Thomas Aquinas. Aquinas's masterwork Summa Theologica (1265-1274) is considered to be the pinnacle of scholastic, medieval, and Christian philosophy; 5. Humanism - important works include those by Coluccio Salutati (16 February 1331 - 4 May 1406), Petrarch (1304 - 1374), Michael de Montaigne (1533 - 1592), Lorenzo Valla (1406-1457), Rudolph Agricola (1443-1485), Mario Nizolio (1488-1567), Juan Luis Vives (1493-1540), and Petrus Ramus (1515-1572). 6. Marsilio Ficino (1433-1499) - the most important Renaissance Platonist. Modern Philosophy - 1. Francis Bacon (1561-1626) 2. Rationalists - Rene Descartes (1596-1650), Baruch Spinoza (1632-77), Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (1646-1716) 3. Empiricist - George Berkley (1685-1753), John Locke (1732-1704), David Hume (1711-1776) 4. Political philosophy - Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679), Jean Rousseau (1712-1778), Voltaire(1694-1778), Giambattista Vico (1668 - 1744), Cesare Beccaria (1738-1794), Giuseppe Mazzini (22 June 1805 - 10 March 1872), Karl Marx (1818-1883), Fredrich Engels (1820-1895). 5. Adam Smith (1723-90). 6. The German idealists - Immanuel Kant (1724-1804), Gottlieb Fichte (1762-1814), G W F Hegel (1770-1831), F W J Schelling (1775-1854), 7. Existential philosophers - Søren Kierkegaard (1813-1855), Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900), Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980), Simone de Beauvoir, Karl Jaspers, Gabriel Marcel, Martin Heidegger (1889-1976), Albert Camus (1913-60) 8. Analytic philosophers - Rudolf Carnap (1891-1970), Gottlob Frege (1848-1925), George Edward Moore, Bertrand Russell (1872-1970), Moritz Schlick, Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889-1951) 9. Neoconfucianism - Xiong Shili 10. Neo-Vedanta - Vivekananda, Aurobindo and Radhakrishnan 11. Kyoto school of thought - founded by Kitaro Nishida Contemporary philosophy 1. Martha Nussbaum (b. 1947) 2. Cornel West (b. 1952) - pioneered the school of “neopragmatism” 3. Slavoj Žižek (b. 1949) 4. Gayatri Spivak (b. 1942) 5. Gu Su (b. 1955) 6. Postmodernist philosophers - Jean Baudrillard, Jean-François Lyotard, and Jacques Derrida 7. Structuralism/Poststeucturalism - Michel Foucault, Jaques Derrida I may have missed many but this is all too much to finish anyway. 😂 Good luck everyone! 🙂
@edercorrales61956 жыл бұрын
Solid advice. I’m a philosophy major pursuing an online B.A. at UNO (university of New Orleans). Thanks for the help Dr. Anadale.
@vicckealves3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Very helpful!!
@Steven-wl4du7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if this method could be applied in reading other types of books? Like Mises' Human Action.
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
I don't see why not. If you give it a try, please let me know how it works. Thanks!
@josh4403 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the subtitles :)
@Yakov_EPH-6.122 жыл бұрын
Helpful information, presented in a clear and effective manner. Thank you
@nishu04facts Жыл бұрын
Please make video on vedanta philosophy (Indian philosophy)
@MrGlobalpanic4 жыл бұрын
Really useful video - thanks. Although annotating my previously pristine copy of Critique of Pure Reason chilled me to the bone...
@thebabymomo27096 жыл бұрын
I'm a first year student studying politics, philosophy, and history and this has helped me so much. I subscribed immediately
@ChristopherAnadale6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@buhlebakhesigasa57816 жыл бұрын
im a first year as well im doing politics philosophy and economicds and i subscribed. please drop me your email i want a study partner ?
@katolika93574 жыл бұрын
Very useful
@lucky-mud4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, professor! I'm a philosophy student in Argentina. I was wondering if you could tell me why you advise against using highlighters? I find them very convenient to color-code arguments/ideas. Thanks!
@ChristopherAnadale4 жыл бұрын
Used judiciously, highlighers are fine. Beginning students often over-use highlighters, which defeats the purpose. Also, you can write words in the margin with a pen, but not with a highlighter. Your method sounds good, but do you need a system (which color stands for what) before you begin reading? Or do you only use highlighters on 2nd or later readings of a text?
@PeterZeeke3 жыл бұрын
This is how I watch mad men
@PeterZeeke3 жыл бұрын
thats no joke btw
@davidpshestilevskiy42145 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was very helpful!
@dallinthomas7465 жыл бұрын
I wonder how usefull this method would be for perusing Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche?
@ChristopherAnadale5 жыл бұрын
Not so useful, I think, as that is more of a philosophical novel, relying on narrative & symbolism.
@dallinthomas7465 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherAnadale Thank you for this answer. Would you supose, then, that Beyond Good and Evil is a better suited for this method?
@ChristopherAnadale5 жыл бұрын
@@dallinthomas746 Yes, I think so. But Nietzsche's aphoristic style, writing in short snippets that gradually converge on a theme, makes him hard to approach with a method like this. You may find it helpful in reading the individual parts of Beyond Good and Evil. Good luck!
@dire-decadence6 ай бұрын
Invaluable guidance; You have my heartfelt gratitude and utmost respect.
@ChristopherAnadale6 ай бұрын
You're very welcome.
@zoiesantos63052 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, Thank you!
@nicolasstagliano32133 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video. Just about every other video on the topic is vague, generalized garbage. This is all very concrete, very well-thought-out, and substantial. I will absolutely implement these -- especially the writing in the book with a pen. It's something I'd never considered.
@ChristopherAnadale3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@princessrainbow44484 жыл бұрын
Love the collection of your books, it's awesome I love to read it all 👍
@danielmarlett14214 жыл бұрын
Very good advice. Thanks
@DrelNVM Жыл бұрын
Summary, anyone?
@hajarmatveeva3 жыл бұрын
I will SERIOUSLY try to use your tips for the kind of books I HATE but MUST read for the sake of EXAMS... And No they are not phylosophy books they are novels...And I Hate them... ABSOLUTELY! Feel disgusted any time I MUST READ IT. SO BORING! Tons of text with almost zero ideas. Only description of nature, "love" and kissing... I hope your tips will work for me.
@John-lf3xf6 жыл бұрын
Your speech is so fluent and amazingly coherent and clear
@andrewhus83772 жыл бұрын
Do you do a quick read and go back for a second slow read on a section or the whole book?
@ChristopherAnadale2 жыл бұрын
Either, depending on the book and on the reason I'm reading it. Some books I read each chapter twice, once fast, once slowly.
@alicelovelace2564 жыл бұрын
El mejor video de la vidaaa voy a sacar mi carrera gracias a esta wea
@augustojoaquínrodríguez2 жыл бұрын
¿Cómo te ha ido?
@Sameer_Hussain_0074 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend that everyone read the book “How to read a book” by Mortimer J Adler.
@costrio2 жыл бұрын
Step 1: Realize that philosophy is merely someone else’s opinions. Opinions change with time. Onions plus Pi equals Onion pie or opinions, IMO.
@brandgardner2115 жыл бұрын
cant hear you
@sweczka243 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@GiI113 жыл бұрын
I could never bring myself to mark a printed book. This is why I'm so happy I own a paper tablet :)
@mudit63063 жыл бұрын
main idea purpose conclusion main argument/methodology
@waindayoungthain21475 жыл бұрын
It’s my view 🤗, Philosophy is to know by yourself as natural.
@penssuck64535 жыл бұрын
That's incoherent.
@JohnVKaravitis4 жыл бұрын
5:38 The "t" in "often" is NOT pronounced!
@il30774 жыл бұрын
What? Yes , it can be ?? Also get a life
@karimatmani78477 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Impaled_Onion-thatsmine4 жыл бұрын
You look at it if your eyes shake or words move around then he doesn't want you looking at it
@paulforester97637 жыл бұрын
Any suggestion with these E-texts they are making us buy and already charging us as part of the class fee whether we want them or not?
@HoangTran-pq5fg4 жыл бұрын
This is a big help mr. Anadale. Good job. Thanks.
@kanava11194 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, thank you!
@kimkelly19347 жыл бұрын
Very helpful information
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@somethingyousaid50594 жыл бұрын
Look at all dem bukes.
@georgepeterson34403 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@zwelishasiyabongared_m13305 жыл бұрын
how would I able to download this video?
@brandgardner2115 жыл бұрын
at all
@steph-qr4kf6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kamalpreetsingh16867 жыл бұрын
Nic video.....
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KarunMalhotra6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@murtadha967 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@ChristopherAnadale7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@rodbrez64155 жыл бұрын
Audio is horrible. I can barely hear this.
@penssuck64535 жыл бұрын
"Horrible" is histrionic
@jameslabs14 жыл бұрын
Info is dated but usable. A visual demo would have been worth all the talk.